1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,540 What we're looking at here is a movie. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,380 If you're going to keep people in the dark about what's really going on, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,580 you have to project a movie at them 4 00:00:09,580 --> 00:00:13,580 in which they will have a version of reality which is the one you want. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,180 There is a conspiracy theory that a shadowy elite of bankers and media moguls 6 00:00:19,180 --> 00:00:22,420 are ruling the world from inside a secret room. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,620 They say that the people that control this world 8 00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:30,920 could sit around one large table and have lunch. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,660 The theory goes that these elitists plan to create an all-powerful New World Order, 10 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:40,680 a world government that will destroy anyone who disobeys them. 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,560 It is a theory shared by militiamen and neo-Nazis 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,940 and in their own way, left-wingers fighting the global elite in Seattle and Prague. 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,560 The message spreads through underground videos and anti-New World Order talk shows. 14 00:00:55,900 --> 00:00:56,940 Is there a New World Order? 15 00:00:56,940 --> 00:00:57,920 There's a New World Order. 16 00:00:57,980 --> 00:00:59,280 Is there a new religion coming? 17 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:00,320 A new religion's coming. 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,580 The New World Order has a certain smell about it. 19 00:01:04,420 --> 00:01:05,680 The smell of death. 20 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:07,460 But there's something else. 21 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:12,280 Many conspiracy theorists say that great danger awaits those people 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,920 who get too close to the truth about the secret rulers of the world. 23 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:19,200 This is the story of what happens to one man 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,120 who believes he's getting too close to the truth. 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,440 Death, you know what your radio station is? 26 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:25,140 Thanks for coming in. 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,240 It's pathetic. 28 00:01:26,380 --> 00:01:27,120 Thanks very much for coming in. 29 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:28,700 We'll look forward to seeing it all. 30 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:30,320 Pathetic. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Thanks for coming in. 32 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:33,220 And you say you believe in freedom? 33 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:33,780 Thanks for coming in. 34 00:01:33,780 --> 00:01:34,800 You couldn't spell it. 35 00:01:34,860 --> 00:01:35,460 Thanks for coming in. 36 00:01:35,460 --> 00:01:36,120 Thank you. 37 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Nice to meet you. 38 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,380 This is life in the free world, ladies and gentlemen. 39 00:01:41,380 --> 00:01:56,060 Oh, I know where I am now. 40 00:01:56,460 --> 00:01:56,820 Birmingham. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,560 One of the world's most successful conspiracy investigators 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,340 is on a lecture tour of Britain. 43 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:07,300 He is unaware that powerful people are right now plotting his downfall. 44 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:09,020 He is David Icke. 45 00:02:09,780 --> 00:02:11,260 Shall we go past Birmingham City Football? 46 00:02:11,380 --> 00:02:13,860 I played there against the Radio 1 team. 47 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:14,260 Remember that? 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,760 We got beat 7-1 there once, you know. 49 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:17,820 I remember. 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,400 And I was in goal. 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,300 I put my head in my hand afterwards and dropped it. 52 00:02:23,380 --> 00:02:24,180 You know, it's one of them games. 53 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,740 Let's see what happens here. 54 00:02:25,740 --> 00:02:26,460 We go down here. 55 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:27,500 Life's a mystery. 56 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:28,840 Life's a mystery. 57 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:29,800 Crikey. 58 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,360 I say that's a wonderful example of what the human race has manipulated to do. 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,140 Running like crazy just to stand still. 60 00:02:37,860 --> 00:02:39,760 As long as we do that, we're controllable. 61 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:41,120 Keep on running. 62 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:42,140 Keep on running faster. 63 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,660 But make sure they don't get anywhere. 64 00:02:43,660 --> 00:02:50,460 This former BBC sportscaster, and once the most laughed at man in Britain, is now an internationally 65 00:02:50,460 --> 00:02:55,520 successful conspiracy investigator who can play to audiences of thousands all over the 66 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:55,880 world. 67 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,560 How did this happen? 68 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Here we go. 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,180 Hello, guys. 70 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Hi. 71 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:02,680 How are you doing? 72 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:04,040 Of course you're keen. 73 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:04,920 Who's this to? 74 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:05,460 L-I-Z. 75 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:05,960 Liz. 76 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:06,400 Liz. 77 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,060 That's me. 78 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Good job, isn't it? 79 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:10,380 Thank you, Mr. Eilinger. 80 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:11,140 Thanks ever so much. 81 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:12,000 Is this your son? 82 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:12,640 It is. 83 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:13,740 This is Jamie. 84 00:03:13,980 --> 00:03:14,540 Hi, Jamie. 85 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:15,180 Hi. 86 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,800 Ladies and gentlemen, this is Jamie. 87 00:03:18,260 --> 00:03:20,260 Thank you. 88 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:25,940 When you first hear that line, a few people control the world, it seems crazy. 89 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,240 But you know the sad thing? 90 00:03:27,660 --> 00:03:28,920 Not only is it possible. 91 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:34,500 If you control certain institutions and certain flows of information, it's a piece of cake. 92 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:39,760 You can't control billions of people physically. 93 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,180 To put people like George W. Bush and Bill Clinton into power, the way the scam is played 94 00:03:45,180 --> 00:03:50,840 and always has been played, is to manipulate the way we think and feel so we perceive the 95 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,920 world and therefore behave in ways that the agenda wants us to. 96 00:03:56,620 --> 00:04:01,100 Back in the 1980s, David was behaving in the way the agenda wanted him to. 97 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:06,960 He looked set for a glorious career in sports presenting with the BBC, the next David Vine 98 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,360 or David Coleman or even Des Lynham. 99 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,560 I was a professional soccer player and I finished with arthritis at 21 and decided I wanted to 100 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,440 be a television presenter. 101 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,680 And I worked my way up to be that. 102 00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:20,400 I wanted a front grandstand and all that stuff. 103 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:24,880 Well, just three months after the disappearance of Shergar, racing has been stunned by the death 104 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,500 from natural causes of the 1979 Derby winner, Troy. 105 00:04:28,780 --> 00:04:29,740 That must have been fun, right? 106 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:34,200 Well, yeah, it was in the early days, but I got bored with it very quickly. 107 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:38,720 The key point came in the late 1980s. 108 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:39,880 It's a strange story. 109 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:43,920 I was working for the BBC still at the time and I just felt this presence around me, like 110 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,480 when I was in a room alone, there was someone else there. 111 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:54,020 I remember sitting in a Kenton and Hilton hotel working for the BBC one night on the side of 112 00:04:54,020 --> 00:05:00,220 the bed and I said to whatever, for God's sake, if there's something there, would you please 113 00:05:00,220 --> 00:05:02,800 contact me because you're driving me up the wall. 114 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,840 The voices continued. 115 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:09,540 They told David that he was the son of God and that the world was about to be torn apart 116 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:10,880 by natural disasters. 117 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,500 David was panicked by these messages and he sought advice from a psychic. 118 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,920 She starts telling me that I was going to be world famous, that I was going to go out 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,600 on a world stage, face enormous opposition and tell the story and reveal, basically reveal 120 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,120 to the world what's really been going on. 121 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Now I'm introducing the snooker at the time, John, you know, and I'm thinking, oh, you are. 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Hello, welcome to the deciding frames of the 1990 British car rental snooker World Cup. 123 00:05:40,420 --> 00:05:46,840 So I'm kind of blown away by this and bingo was on the Wogan show. 124 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:53,100 Let me get the story right. 125 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:57,720 The press claim that you claim to be the son of God. 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,280 Mm-hmm. 127 00:05:58,840 --> 00:05:59,520 Is that true? 128 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Yes, you see, the thing is that, you see, it's quite, it's quite funny, really. 129 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:09,580 You know, 2,000 years ago, had a guy called Jesus sat here and said these same things, 130 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:10,540 you would still be laughing. 131 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:13,480 It's really, really funny that we've not really moved on that much. 132 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:19,240 The conscious level was doing the interview and another level of me was observing and going, 133 00:06:19,460 --> 00:06:20,900 oh, my God, what's going on here? 134 00:06:21,220 --> 00:06:25,640 When may we expect tidal waves, eruptions, earthquakes? 135 00:06:26,180 --> 00:06:27,740 When these things happen. 136 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:28,820 As they will. 137 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:30,480 As they will, my goodness, they will. 138 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:32,380 When is the first thing going to happen? 139 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,700 Well, it will certainly happen this year. 140 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,180 The first sequence will begin this year. 141 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:36,460 What will happen if they don't happen? 142 00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:37,120 What will happen to you? 143 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,640 They will happen because if they don't happen, there will be no Earth. 144 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:46,600 I remember this moment, watching it at home on TV. 145 00:06:47,460 --> 00:06:51,360 David said this with such conviction that the audience stopped laughing for a moment. 146 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:54,040 This kind of thing can still shake us up. 147 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:56,780 Could David Icke actually be a soothsayer? 148 00:06:56,780 --> 00:07:02,260 At that moment, I think the nation looked to Terry Wogan for guidance. 149 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:03,760 How would he respond? 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:10,520 You know, the best way of removing negativity is to laugh and be joyous. 151 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,960 So I'm delighted that there's so much laughter in the audience tonight. 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,080 But no, it's a... 153 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,620 But just let me say this. 154 00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:17,640 They're laughing at you. 155 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:19,280 They're not laughing with you. 156 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Fine. 157 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:26,500 It had a very profound impact on me, the result of that interview. 158 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:30,800 Because I couldn't walk down any street in Britain without being laughed at by most of the people. 159 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:43,340 If I'd have been in this little chef, if there were any people here, and this happened to me many times, following the Wogan show, people would be giggling and laughing all over the place, going into a bar or a pub or forget it. 160 00:07:43,340 --> 00:07:47,960 Then you'd go home and you'd turn the telly on and there'd be a comedian. 161 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:48,980 I'd only have to say my name. 162 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,980 And they had a laugh. 163 00:07:51,380 --> 00:07:54,980 What I've heard you say sounds absolute lunacy to me. 164 00:07:54,980 --> 00:07:57,120 And I still think you're soppy as a box of frogs. 165 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,220 David, thanks very much indeed. 166 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 If you had a brain, sell it with dial loneliness. 167 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,020 And the scores are teetering on the brink of being exciting. 168 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,480 What with Paul and David with six and with Ian and Nick with 13. 169 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,000 We need a miracle, David. 170 00:08:23,380 --> 00:08:24,420 Bless you, my child. 171 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:27,640 This water tastes a bit like wine, doesn't it? 172 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Obviously, my family were, at the time, devastated, because, especially my children, because, you know, their dad was now a figure of ridicule. 173 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:47,280 They were followed to school by journalists, or the kids at school took them mercilessly. 174 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:53,240 Of course, the cataclysmic flooding did not occur, but David didn't allow this to destroy him. 175 00:08:53,240 --> 00:09:02,420 In fact, the experience of being laughed at across the media led him directly to his current belief that a shadowy elite secretly controls the world. 176 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:12,440 As a television presenter, I'd been respected, and people would come up to you in the street and shake your hand and talk to you in a respectful way. 177 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:19,960 And then suddenly, and I mean suddenly, overnight, that was transformed into Ike's and Nutter. 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:28,780 That was so important for me in understanding, when I started to get into the manipulation, the agenda, the conspiracy, 179 00:09:28,780 --> 00:09:37,460 in understanding how it was possible for a relatively few people in key positions to run the world. 180 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,900 They do it by manipulating the way people think and feel. 181 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:43,340 David's new theory struck a chord. 182 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:51,660 Few people had believed him to be the son of God, but many agreed that a shadowy elite, an Illuminati, was secretly ruling the world. 183 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:53,860 His audiences began to grow. 184 00:09:54,460 --> 00:10:02,560 And now, as people start to see what I'm about and start to realise that Ike did not go crazy, 185 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:08,460 and they're now being able to lift their heads up and say, 186 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:10,100 that's my dad. 187 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,940 You laughed at him, didn't you? 188 00:10:12,260 --> 00:10:13,160 But look at him now. 189 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,920 The conspiracy theory world is highly competitive, 190 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,280 and ever since David burst onto the scene with his extraordinary new theory 191 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,100 about the genetic origins of the shadowy elite, 192 00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:28,160 his fellow conspiracy investigators have been scandalised. 193 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,280 Now is the time! 194 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,240 Not tomorrow! 195 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:32,500 Not next week! 196 00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:33,640 Not next year! 197 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:35,920 We're engaging in info war! 198 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:40,560 Everywhere I've been, meeting people who have tried to uncover the great conspiracy, 199 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,780 the subject of David Ike always seems to come up. 200 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:46,480 So what's David Ike doing on TV? 201 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:48,240 We have a lot of different producers. 202 00:10:48,860 --> 00:10:51,680 You just get tired of the real meat and potatoes, the real issues. 203 00:10:52,180 --> 00:10:57,800 So he's gone for all the ridiculous Hollywood stuff of David Ike and the blood-drinking lizard people. 204 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,060 So what does David Ike do? 205 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,500 He talks about the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, these global elitists, 206 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:09,560 these power structures, all real, all true, all demonstrated by bills and executive orders 207 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:12,380 and prime ministers and premieres and presidents. 208 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:14,740 All real, meat and potatoes. 209 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Something you can bite into. 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,660 Something that is easily demonstratable. 211 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,020 And then you've got David Ike at the end of all this. 212 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,060 He says, by the way, they're blood-drinking lizards. 213 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,900 Who's going to have the guts to stand up on a stage and say that reptiles are on the world? 214 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:30,640 I mean, who's going to do it? 215 00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:31,460 No one's ever going to do it. 216 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:32,500 We're never going to find out, are we? 217 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:43,380 So, people were coming up to me and telling me how they had seen people, overwhelmingly in positions of power, 218 00:11:43,460 --> 00:11:50,700 though not always, turn in front of their eyes into a reptilian humanoid figure and then go back again. 219 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:57,980 And, of course, you hear one and you think, ooh, and you hear two and you think, oh, my God, back burner. 220 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,960 You hear three, you hear four, you hear five, you hear six in different countries. 221 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Now, these nodules on their head are something that come up again and again. 222 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,740 And for some reason, drinking human blood, particularly the blood of blonde-haired, blue-eyed people, 223 00:12:13,180 --> 00:12:18,300 seems to be very beneficial to holding mammal codes open. 224 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,060 Well, Al Gore needs blood to drink. 225 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:21,840 So does Prince Philip. 226 00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:23,360 I mean, it's asinine. 227 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,460 And it's being picked up by people. 228 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:27,920 And so it discredits all of the reality that people are talking about. 229 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:30,240 And that's the problem with David Ike. 230 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,320 He's got a good line to a point, and then he discredits it all. 231 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:34,840 It's like a turd in the punch bowl. 232 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,800 That's his job. 233 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,880 He's got this nice big thing, you know, this nice fruit punch, nice ice cube floating around in it, you know. 234 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,240 And then he takes a big dump right in the middle of it, and no one's going to drink out of that punch bowl. 235 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,720 But is he in league with them to do that? 236 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:54,440 I think he knows what he has to do in a controlled world to get away with what he's doing and be given attention. 237 00:12:55,300 --> 00:13:00,800 And he's either a smart opportunist con man or he's completely insane or he's working for them directly. 238 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,180 But I kind of think he's just a con man who understands how things works and is just a real opportunist. 239 00:13:07,180 --> 00:13:09,780 It's 1 a.m. 240 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:14,880 David has lectured for the last six hours, as he does most nights all over the world. 241 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,460 During the past few nights, he's sold hundreds of copies of his lizard book, The Biggest Secret. 242 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:24,840 I just wanted to say I felt very inspired by it. 243 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:25,080 Right. 244 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,220 Well, I do this all over the world, week after week after week. 245 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:30,480 You know, I'm inspired by it. 246 00:13:30,820 --> 00:13:33,520 We're moving so many books in the States now, The Biggest Secret. 247 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,160 And the second edition is 20% better than the first. 248 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,380 When things like this documentary go out, it's going to fly. 249 00:13:41,060 --> 00:13:43,960 I'm as well known in South Africa now as I am in Britain. 250 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,840 Oh, God, I'm so knackered. 251 00:13:47,420 --> 00:13:49,240 I haven't seen you score a goal yet, JJ. 252 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:51,020 Oh, no. 253 00:13:52,580 --> 00:13:53,380 Oh, here we go. 254 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Oh. 255 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,380 Come on. 256 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:55,980 Come on. 257 00:13:56,060 --> 00:13:57,760 Let's see if you can score against me. 258 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,860 Leicester against Liverpool. 259 00:13:59,860 --> 00:14:00,800 Oh, I've got to do it with this. 260 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:02,380 It's a bit more style, isn't it? 261 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,940 David is not bothered by his fellow conspiracy theorists' antipathy towards him. 262 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:09,640 Oh, he scored. 263 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,180 He's a loner who doesn't need the approval of his peer group. 264 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,820 What, this is going to be a market tomorrow, is it? 265 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,120 Yeah. 266 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:21,480 See, exposing the world conspiracy and then selling fruit and veg. 267 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:24,980 But now there's some real trouble brewing for David, 268 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,540 something that might even destroy him. 269 00:14:30,740 --> 00:14:34,240 This is the New York headquarters of the Anti-Defamation League, 270 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,200 the world's most powerful Jewish defence organisation. 271 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,800 The ADL's job is to identify and expose anti-Semites. 272 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,100 Tell me what you know about David Icke. 273 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:50,920 I know that he, about yearly, makes a tour of the United States. 274 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:56,360 He is a New Age guru, and unfortunately, 275 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,440 his philosophy is tainted with anti-Semitism. 276 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,820 The Anti-Defamation League believe, although they're not entirely certain, 277 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,380 that when David Icke says 12-foot lizards secretly rule the world, 278 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,600 he's using code. 279 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,620 And what he really means is that Jews secretly rule the world. 280 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:19,480 If David Icke is telling people that 12-foot lizards equal Jews, 281 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,200 it would make me feel very much as if I had something to worry about 282 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,120 if David Icke came to town, 283 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,900 if he believes that his 12-foot lizards are Jews. 284 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,980 The question is, does he believe that? 285 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:35,440 That's a very good question. 286 00:15:35,860 --> 00:15:38,100 If he just believes that they're 12-foot lizards, 287 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,720 there are probably reason to be concerned about his health. 288 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,400 If he believes that there are 12-foot lizards who represent Jews, 289 00:15:49,780 --> 00:15:52,800 there's reason to be concerned for the health of the Jewish community. 290 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,820 Knowing what I do about David's past, 291 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,360 my guess is that when he says giant lizards secretly rule the world, 292 00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:01,040 he really does mean lizards. 293 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,740 But I could be wrong. 294 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:06,980 These are old anti-Semitic cartoons from Eastern Europe, 295 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,660 and there is something lizard-y about the way the Jews are portrayed, 296 00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:13,100 encircling and enslaving the world. 297 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:14,760 Is this a coincidence? 298 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,700 And there's something else. 299 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,840 David has many fans on the extreme right. 300 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:23,180 The hardcore neo-Nazi unit Combat 18 301 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:25,680 once attended one of his lectures in London 302 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,200 and gave him a glowing review in their newsletter. 303 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,060 It was a good speech, they wrote. 304 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:35,080 He began talking about a big conspiracy by a group of bankers, 305 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:36,780 media moguls, etc. 306 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:41,140 He was always clever enough not to mention what all these people had in common. 307 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,260 Salt beef sandwich, anyone? 308 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:46,980 So the anti-racists are not alone in believing 309 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:50,140 that when David Icke says lizards, he means Jews. 310 00:16:51,180 --> 00:16:54,940 It does open up a whole can of worms about code words. 311 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,360 The Anti-Defamation League is really concerned about code words. 312 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,520 David's line of defence is clear. 313 00:17:00,980 --> 00:17:03,900 When he says lizards, he really is referring to lizards. 314 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:07,040 There is a tribe of people interbreeding 315 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,520 which do not, do not relate to any earth race. 316 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,680 It's not the Jews, it's not the this, anything. 317 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:19,460 Just look at me. 318 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,900 This is not a Jewish plot. 319 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,660 This is not a plot on the world by Jewish people. 320 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:29,600 The thing is, when you say this is not a Jewish plot, 321 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,900 some people think that's a metaphor for me saying it's a Jewish plot. 322 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,100 Are you going to laugh first or me? 323 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:41,600 Who's disappearing up their arse, me or you? 324 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,220 You can't win this. 325 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,700 This is part of the ludicrous attitude. 326 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:48,620 This is just total friggin' nonsense. 327 00:17:48,620 --> 00:17:51,900 David Icke will put his hand to his heart and say, 328 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,180 I am not an anti-Semite. 329 00:17:53,260 --> 00:17:55,540 I have the greatest respect for the Jewish people. 330 00:17:56,260 --> 00:17:58,500 But the Jewish hierarchy, 331 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,120 like the Muslim hierarchy, the Christian hierarchy, and so on, 332 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,780 they're 12-foot lizards. 333 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:03,900 Right. 334 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,860 Does that make him an anti-Semite? 335 00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:07,120 I think it does. 336 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,500 I think it does. 337 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:14,960 I mean, the fact is that that's a favourite way of dealing with anti-Semitism. 338 00:18:15,540 --> 00:18:18,120 I only dislike these Jews. 339 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:19,940 I don't dislike all Jews. 340 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:22,200 I just dislike these Jews. 341 00:18:22,860 --> 00:18:29,020 And somehow these Jews are the absolute epitome 342 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:33,160 of what being Jewish means in the world. 343 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:37,600 For all the anti-Ike discord that exists in the conspiracy theory world, 344 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,060 there is some solidarity when it comes to feelings about the Anti-Defamation League. 345 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Any of us that are working to stop this new world order, 346 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,920 we're their enemies, 347 00:18:47,020 --> 00:18:48,920 and the best thing they can call us is an anti-Semite, 348 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,700 because then the whole world hates us. 349 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:52,260 You say, I am a Semite. 350 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:55,460 Oh, that's the next thing towards Satan himself. 351 00:18:55,580 --> 00:18:57,780 I mean, that's like calling you Satan, you see. 352 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:02,100 So that's the first thing they hit you with if you start talking against the new world order, 353 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,160 that you've got to be an anti-Semite. 354 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,180 What do you say, they? 355 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:06,860 Who's the name? 356 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:09,960 Anybody in what we call globalist. 357 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,920 My own feeling is that the ADL is an Illuminati front. 358 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,740 You see, in all these different religions and all these different belief systems 359 00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:21,080 and all these different cultures and races, 360 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:24,140 the Illuminati have to have organizations. 361 00:19:24,340 --> 00:19:25,940 Otherwise, they're not controlling the game. 362 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:28,960 There are areas that are unpredictable. 363 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,400 And there's one thing the Illuminati can't stand. 364 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:35,640 And I think their genetic structure is part of this. 365 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,640 They cannot stand anything that's unpredictable. 366 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,660 Last night was great. 367 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:44,760 And the bookshop, Watterson, said they could have sold the tickets twice over in the end. 368 00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:47,340 The more time I spend with David, 369 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,680 the more I'm convinced that when he says lizards, he means lizards. 370 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,120 And I would emphasize, you know, 371 00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:56,400 we all have a reptilian part of the brain called the R-complex, 372 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:57,780 a very ancient part of the brain. 373 00:19:58,060 --> 00:19:59,840 We all have a reptilian past. 374 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,280 I mean, there are still some people in the world that are born with tails. 375 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,340 Could the Anti-Defamation League be falsely accusing David of anti-Semitism 376 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:10,600 because he's getting too close to the truth? 377 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,420 Are the ADL part of the shadowy elite? 378 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Does the shadowy elite even exist? 379 00:20:16,740 --> 00:20:18,380 I wanted to get to the bottom of it, 380 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,340 and I felt that the answer lay within the simple question. 381 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:24,660 When David Icke says lizards, does he mean lizards? 382 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:26,320 Or does he mean Jews? 383 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:32,480 Vancouver, a coalition of prominent anti-racists, 384 00:20:32,580 --> 00:20:35,100 have organized an emergency Anti-Icke meeting. 385 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:37,180 There are powerful people here, 386 00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:39,820 members of the ADL's Canadian affiliates, 387 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,700 the Canadian Jewish Congress and B'nai B'rith. 388 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:47,100 This coalition is convinced that when David says lizards, he means Jews. 389 00:20:47,260 --> 00:20:50,900 Above all, I think David Icke represents a political threat. 390 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,460 His writings are anti-Semitic. 391 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:57,440 He believes that the world elite, 392 00:20:57,660 --> 00:21:00,380 the Illuminati who dominate every aspect of our lives, 393 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,060 are genetically descended from an extraterrestrial race of reptiles 394 00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:05,480 that came to Earth some time ago 395 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,560 in the form of humans who are capable of changing their shapes, 396 00:21:08,980 --> 00:21:10,620 who are Satanists, who engage in rituals, 397 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,300 shall sacrifice, who drink blood. 398 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,300 This is a public meeting, 399 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,080 but the chair has let it be known 400 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,400 that it is for people who have already made up their minds about David. 401 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,920 Unsure people are not welcome. 402 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,400 If they could read my mind, I would not be welcome. 403 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,180 Because this is actually a meeting for people 404 00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:29,640 who are opposed to David Icke's presence in the community 405 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,240 and opposed to the things he says. 406 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:35,720 And I would just like to know if there are any people here 407 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,700 who consider themselves supporters of David Icke. 408 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,000 I haven't made up my mind yet. 409 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,280 I don't know what he stands for. 410 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,280 This is not a meeting to debate what David Icke stands for. 411 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:45,920 This meeting was called by people 412 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,460 who have a very good understanding of what he stands for 413 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:52,720 and that what he stands for is against community values. 414 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:54,840 So that's what the purpose of this meeting is, 415 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,380 is to organize against David Icke. 416 00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:57,960 I want to make a trunk call. 417 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,600 Why does everyone make fun of this elephant? 418 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,420 I don't get it. 419 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:04,680 Well, people make fun of people sitting in elephants 420 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,620 because it's funny. 421 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,360 That's why people say I'm flipping mad. 422 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:10,240 I mean, I don't sit in elephants. 423 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:11,900 Quite clearly, in my view, 424 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,920 he acts as a conduit to some extreme far-right organizations. 425 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:19,180 Combat 18, I'm responsible for violent attacks on minority groups. 426 00:22:19,180 --> 00:22:23,360 So I see this as a real political concern 427 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,240 in terms of what his agenda is. 428 00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:27,560 I have a question for the man that just spoke. 429 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:29,800 Do you see the patriot movement as bad things? 430 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,620 I see them as far-right, anti-Semitic, racist ideologies. 431 00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,000 I've been in the militia of the United States for the last four years. 432 00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:39,120 I've only met one racist there. 433 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:40,600 I've met more on the street. 434 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:46,900 I mean, I think at this point that it may be unproductive, you know, for... 435 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:47,480 I'm here to learn. 436 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,080 I don't know anything about Mr. Icke. 437 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:50,300 If you want to move me out, fine. 438 00:22:50,540 --> 00:22:53,400 Well, I think that there are people who are uncomfortable 439 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,740 with you staying at the meeting. 440 00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:55,300 Okay. 441 00:22:55,860 --> 00:22:58,600 Could I ask two questions, perhaps rhetorical, before I leave? 442 00:22:58,860 --> 00:23:02,460 Well, we set the terms of the meeting 443 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,840 as that this isn't really a debate. 444 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,220 I wasn't here to debate. 445 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320 I was here to get information about Mr. Icke. 446 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,460 But I'll go. 447 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:12,380 I take it most of you consider 448 00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:16,640 Nazism and Marxism are not the same thing. 449 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Am I right? 450 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600 Do you think one is way worse than the other 451 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,060 and that they're not the same? 452 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,720 Actually, I think we really need to proceed with the meeting. 453 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,040 I'm done. 454 00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:24,900 Thank you. 455 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,160 Okay. 456 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:27,980 Wheels have been set in motion. 457 00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:31,180 The Canadian Hate Crimes Unit has been alerted. 458 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:33,000 The Coalition has also written 459 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,820 to ex-Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulrooney 460 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:38,380 to inform him that David Icke is accusing him 461 00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:41,200 of being a reptilian, blood-drinking child murderer. 462 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,960 But so far, Brian Mulrooney has declined to be provoked into legal action. 463 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,900 In fact, every individual accused of reptilian blood-drinking 464 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,380 by David Icke has so far failed to sue, 465 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,120 including Bob Hope, George Bush, 466 00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:56,680 George W. Bush, 467 00:23:57,260 --> 00:23:58,460 the Rothschild family, 468 00:23:59,120 --> 00:23:59,960 the Queen of England, 469 00:24:00,460 --> 00:24:01,160 the Queen Mother, 470 00:24:01,540 --> 00:24:02,100 Ted Heath, 471 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Prince Philip, 472 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,140 Chris Christopherson, 473 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,060 Al Gore, 474 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,400 and Boxcar Willie. 475 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,380 You look what I've said in The Biggest Secret 476 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:09,740 about the British royal family, 477 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,940 how they're involved in satanic ritual, 478 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,500 how they take part in human sacrifice ritual 479 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,260 at places like Balmoral and stuff. 480 00:24:18,180 --> 00:24:19,920 Come on, let's have you. 481 00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:21,540 If it's not true, 482 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,820 take me to court, 483 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,260 let's have this out. 484 00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:28,900 This is Canada's biggest book chain. 485 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,880 Today, David has been invited for a book signing, 486 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,660 unaware that the coalition has telephoned ahead 487 00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:36,840 to warn that if the event goes on, 488 00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:39,160 there could be violence from other racists. 489 00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:41,000 If we're going to live in a free world 490 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,300 and have the freedom of expression, 491 00:24:44,540 --> 00:24:47,020 how is that going to be defended 492 00:24:47,020 --> 00:24:49,340 if all it takes to stop it 493 00:24:49,340 --> 00:24:52,060 is one phone call threatening violence? 494 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:53,220 I'm not debating, 495 00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:55,080 I'm saying that right now, 496 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:56,780 the situation was 497 00:24:56,780 --> 00:24:58,260 is that we chose to have it 498 00:24:58,260 --> 00:24:59,420 because there was an issue of security, 499 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720 and I'm getting concerned about this right now. 500 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:02,360 Pamela, 501 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,400 you're not willing to debate it 502 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,020 because you have nowhere to go. 503 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,140 That's the truth. 504 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Please don't complain 505 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,620 when your own freedoms are taken away. 506 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,440 Thanks for your time. 507 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:15,220 You're very welcome. 508 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:19,780 These are your freedoms. 509 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:24,140 And you don't realise that you're playing a part 510 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:26,940 in destroying your own freedom 511 00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:31,660 by being just another clone of a system 512 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:32,780 you're not interested in 513 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:35,480 because it makes life more difficult to think about. 514 00:25:36,260 --> 00:25:37,420 It's your freedom. 515 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,440 I could walk away from this. 516 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:46,800 The events of the morning 517 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,100 have made David rueful and homesick. 518 00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,820 Would I want to do other things with my life 519 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:53,360 other than this? 520 00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:54,180 My God, yes. 521 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:57,080 It's something related to sport, probably. 522 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,400 You know, I still love sport and all that stuff, 523 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:02,440 but the thing that I... 524 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,360 The thing that kills me most about doing this 525 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,960 endless friggin' travelling 526 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,580 is missing great chunks of my little boy growing up. 527 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,760 There's not a day goes by 528 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600 without me feeling the agony of that. 529 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,620 What do you think of this moment? 530 00:26:18,020 --> 00:26:19,820 I've got a talk on a radio station 531 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:21,140 and then there's two television interviews. 532 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,900 Don't ask me who they're with. 533 00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:24,860 Don't ask me anything about them. 534 00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:26,520 I feel like a mobile mouth. 535 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:28,760 You know, I sit you down and ask you questions 536 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,280 and you start talking. 537 00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:31,800 It's kind of strange life. 538 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,520 You know, it's like my mother. 539 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,120 When are you going to get a proper job out of Dave? 540 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:36,240 When are you going to get a proper job? 541 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:37,940 Never, never. 542 00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:40,140 Because this is a proper job, I guess. 543 00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:40,940 Strange that it is. 544 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:43,040 Radio 1 Broadcasting. 545 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:43,560 Is this the one? 546 00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:44,560 Radio 1. 547 00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:45,560 It's Tony Blackburn here. 548 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Yes, sir. 549 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:49,340 Thanks. 550 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Hello. 551 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:51,440 Hi. 552 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:52,420 David Icke. 553 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,160 I'm going to be interviewed on a program at 10.15. 554 00:26:55,540 --> 00:26:55,900 Right. 555 00:26:55,900 --> 00:27:00,740 We have reviewed the material, which has submitted to us. 556 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:01,140 Say again? 557 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:04,300 We've reviewed the material, which has submitted to us. 558 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:04,900 Uh-huh. 559 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,480 And we've also reviewed the radio regulations, 1986. 560 00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:10,840 I don't believe it. 561 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,840 You've got an exclusive here. 562 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,540 Go ahead. 563 00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:15,140 And we just don't feel comfortable. 564 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:15,680 Why? 565 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,020 Just don't feel comfortable. 566 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,400 Why? 567 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,060 Explain to me. 568 00:27:18,140 --> 00:27:18,600 No, that's it. 569 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:18,840 Sorry. 570 00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:19,820 Thank you very much for coming. 571 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,100 You have invited me onto a radio station. 572 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:36,060 I turn up on time, and you stand there and say, without any substance or explanation, we're 573 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:36,940 not having you on. 574 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:37,680 Now... 575 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,540 I just explained to you. 576 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:39,440 No, you haven't. 577 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,360 Why? 578 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Tell me why. 579 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:46,440 I have reviewed the material, which you have written, and I don't feel comfortable with 580 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,860 it on the radio. 581 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,620 Why? 582 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,720 No, that's it. 583 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:57,220 This is what I'm talking about when I say the public are given one version of reality, 584 00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:05,300 and people like this at a.m. 1040 in Vancouver prevent them having another version of reality, 585 00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:11,500 which means, of course, that they're getting part of the story and not what they're really 586 00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:13,300 entitled to hear. 587 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:19,440 And if you think that not exposing the fact that children are being abused in fantastic 588 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,980 numbers, my friend, is too much for your radio station, then you tell the children 589 00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:26,300 who are being abused. 590 00:28:26,660 --> 00:28:27,300 Thanks for coming in. 591 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,000 You know what your radio station is? 592 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Thanks for coming in. 593 00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:30,800 It's pathetic. 594 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,660 Thank you very much for coming in. 595 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,740 And you say you believe in freedom? 596 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:35,320 You couldn't spell it. 597 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:35,980 Thanks for coming in. 598 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:36,640 Thank you. 599 00:28:36,740 --> 00:28:37,300 Nice to meet you. 600 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:41,900 This is life in the free world, ladies and gentlemen. 601 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:47,600 And this is one of the architects, unknowingly, of the destruction of our freedom. 602 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,840 Good morning. 603 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Good morning, sir. 604 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:52,500 This is unbelievable. 605 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,020 No explanation, no substance, no debate, just that's it. 606 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:03,280 No conspiracy, no suppression of information, ladies and gentlemen of the world. 607 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:05,280 Well, you've just seen it yet again. 608 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,220 You did say you were sick of doing radio interviews. 609 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:12,200 That's not the point. 610 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:17,480 Whether I have to do one after the other after the other to get this information out 611 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,340 is irrelevant to the fact that the information again and again is being suppressed. 612 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:23,380 Why? 613 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,100 They'll tell you what the government wants you to know. 614 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,560 They'll tell you what the transnational corporations and the stock market want you to know. 615 00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:31,400 They won't tell you what they don't want you to know. 616 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:38,480 And people like that are unknowing, frightened little men who are editing the news 617 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,880 while claiming to be part of a media that is free. 618 00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:49,640 It was in reading some of the writings of David Icke that the decision was taken hang on a minute. 619 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,460 Why isn't this guy in the courts of Canada? 620 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Because he out and out calls two of our former prime ministers of Canada. 621 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,720 He says they are rapists. 622 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:06,220 And I'm also amazed that if he truly believes that there is a superhuman extraterrestrial power 623 00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:12,660 overriding everything that happens on this planet that stifles opinion and stifles free speech, 624 00:30:12,820 --> 00:30:14,780 then why is he still with us? 625 00:30:14,860 --> 00:30:18,640 Why haven't the lizard men taken him out? 626 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,860 How's it going? 627 00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:21,780 It's 3-0 for us so far. 628 00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:27,580 Leading the radio show. 629 00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:28,700 Two on CFUN. 630 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,480 His book signing at Chapters. 631 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:34,240 Actually, Chapters gave us another one. 632 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,140 I think it's 4-0 when they kicked him out when their security guards grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and threw him out. 633 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,520 So I count that as at least a half. 634 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,540 This is Richard Warman of the Canadian Green Party. 635 00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:46,200 Richard is leading the campaign against David. 636 00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:53,700 His aim is to get David deported and his books seized and incinerated under Canadian hate crimes legislation. 637 00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,820 That's the other thing. 638 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,480 David Icke says that no one has ever read his books. 639 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Anyone who criticizes him has never read his books. 640 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:04,860 When David Icke says lizards, does he name Jews? 641 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:09,300 No, I think, well, half the time I think they're intermixed. 642 00:31:09,460 --> 00:31:15,040 Because if it's all the Illuminati, and most of the Illuminati are famous Jews, 643 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,520 then, and if the Illuminati are descended from extraterrestrial fourth-dimensional lizards, as they are wont to be, 644 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,780 then yes, I think unfortunately Mr. Icke is referring to them as lizards. 645 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,180 Gentlemen, here's to cooperation. 646 00:31:28,540 --> 00:31:28,820 Cheers. 647 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:37,500 I think we can release the hound now. 648 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:45,120 You know that David thinks that you're the hidden hand behind all of this? 649 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,500 Make a note, he's on to me. 650 00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:55,180 Well, yes, you know, of course. 651 00:31:55,180 --> 00:32:03,260 I am probably descended from some sort of fourth-dimensional, if not even fifth-dimensional lizard. 652 00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,160 But David's not ready for that information yet. 653 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:07,320 David's just not ready. 654 00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:16,620 A representative from the Anti-Defamation League is in town to speak at the university. 655 00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:24,080 Tony and Erin from the coalition hope to co-opt the audience to their mass anti-Icke picket at David's lecture on Sunday. 656 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,140 Now, well, when we talk about Holocaust denial, I think the first thing we have to understand is the nature of the message. 657 00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:39,300 On the surface, Holocaust denial, everyone from Ernst Zündel to your fellow, 658 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:47,480 fellow Miss, we were talking about Mr. Icke, who is bringing his lizard show to Vancouver. 659 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,300 I would be very surprised if he is not a Holocaust denier. 660 00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:54,600 But I don't know specifically. 661 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:56,500 But, I mean, it sort of goes with the territory. 662 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,920 We're organizing a counter picket and leafleting Sunday morning at 9 a.m. 663 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,100 And I really encourage people to come out. 664 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:06,340 I'm just going to give you a couple quick quotes just to contextualize what this Icke guy is about. 665 00:33:06,340 --> 00:33:11,840 But there's an interesting quote, which he has on the Anti-Defamation League itself, and I'll just quickly read that. 666 00:33:12,140 --> 00:33:17,980 In Britain, I am told by an extremely reliable source, very close to the intelligence organizations, 667 00:33:17,980 --> 00:33:27,820 that the far-right group Combat 18, which is a fascist group, which is a front for the sinister Anti-Defamation League, 668 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,120 the United States arm of the Israeli Rothschild Secret Service, the Mossad. 669 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,640 The Anti-Defamation League, the ADL, has been operating in Britain and Europe since at least 1991. 670 00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:45,080 And its role is to brand as anti-Semitic anyone who's getting close to the truth of what is going on. 671 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:51,620 What better way to discredit an investigator than to have a far-right group like Combat 18 to praise them? 672 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,500 I'd encourage people to come out Sunday morning, 9 o'clock. 673 00:33:54,500 --> 00:34:03,760 Thursday, the Coalition has failed to convince VTV, a popular local television station, to cancel David's scheduled appearance. 674 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,440 Finally, David has a chance to put his side of the story across to the people of Vancouver. 675 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:17,640 Joining me now is David Icke and SFU psychology professor, Dr. Barry Beyerstein, who is also president of the BC Skeptic Society. 676 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:27,420 Dr. Beyerstein, whether or not Mr. Icke's theories make sense, why do you think he has a following when a lot of people would think that the ideas are completely out of this world? 677 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,720 What research have you done on that? 678 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,660 I'm just trying to get this question from Dr. Beyerstein. 679 00:34:31,660 --> 00:34:33,560 Nothing. And you make statements like that. That's nonsense. 680 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,440 Well, I think the nonsense is in the other side. But that aside, your question was, why do people believe it? 681 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:49,800 Well, I think people like to enchant themselves. And this is classic mystery mongering. People want there to be grand conspiracies and they want the world to be an even more mysterious place than it is. 682 00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:56,040 And they want simplistic, pat answers for why they're not happy, why the world isn't the wonderful place they think it should be. 683 00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:58,220 And that is more satisfactory. 684 00:34:58,500 --> 00:34:58,860 Professor. 685 00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:09,020 Just a minute. Let me finish. That's more satisfactory psychologically than the sort of thing that science and decent scholarship will say. 686 00:35:09,020 --> 00:35:10,900 Well, let's get Mr. Icke to respond to that. 687 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:18,520 Professor, did you major in patronizing the people of British Columbia? Because you really ought to have done. 688 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:19,840 Tell me about that. 689 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,560 Let's not have that one in the comments here. 690 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,480 Hold on a second. 691 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,320 Let's stick with your silly ideas, not the people that believe them. 692 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,520 Okay. 693 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,420 Let's talk about, first of all, why Jewish groups are calling you anti-Semitic. 694 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,180 Because I'm getting too close to the truth. 695 00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:39,480 When you get too close to the truth, they can assassinate you, or they can assassinate your character. 696 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,400 In my case, they've chosen the latter. 697 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,280 How would you respond to that, Dr. Beyerstein? 698 00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:48,560 Don't get into these convoluted and paranoid fantasies that people are trying to shut you up. 699 00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:50,040 I mean, what are you doing? 700 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:52,940 You're on one of the biggest media outlets in Vancouver right now. 701 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:54,220 That's hardly shutting you up. 702 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:59,580 I've actually had two major interviews on radio pulled this week by the owners of the network. 703 00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:05,060 I've had book signings cancelled because of attacks on my character. 704 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,120 You want to read the papers a bit more, mate? 705 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,520 In the days that follow the TV debate, David's fans begin approaching him on the street, 706 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,740 sometimes breaking into spontaneous rounds of applause. 707 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,940 Some of the coalition privately admit to me that the whole thing is beginning to backfire. 708 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,420 See you Friday. 709 00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:22,440 All right, good going. 710 00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:22,980 Great. 711 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,840 Okay, bye guys. 712 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,200 Smashing. 713 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:25,080 Lovely to meet you. 714 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,480 You too. 715 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:25,980 Bye. 716 00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:28,780 The Jews are drawing their own parallels. 717 00:36:28,780 --> 00:36:33,860 They think, you know, they believe that they are the Illuminati that David's talking about. 718 00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:34,780 They're just paranoid. 719 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,840 It's not true. 720 00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:37,140 He's not an anti-Semite. 721 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000 I've been described as weird but never deliciously weird. 722 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,060 Is that an improvement, Jim, you reckon? 723 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,160 Yeah, well, I brought you a few copies there so far. 724 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,720 Thank you. 725 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,660 That's urban voice. 726 00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:48,880 And I'm deliciously weird. 727 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,440 I think I'm making progress. 728 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,160 The anti-Ike coalition seems to be falling apart. 729 00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:01,580 The powerful Canadian Jewish Congress has already withdrawn, stung by the lack of support from the public. 730 00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:05,480 The people of Vancouver seem to like David and the lizards. 731 00:37:06,580 --> 00:37:09,180 I dropped a few books off at Granville. 732 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:09,880 Books. 733 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:10,480 Yeah? 734 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:11,760 They're all sold out. 735 00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:12,840 They want more. 736 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:13,640 Really? 737 00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:14,060 Yeah. 738 00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:16,700 The books going like fire in this city. 739 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:23,900 The strange thing is that many in the coalition share David's conspiracy theories about an evil elite ruling the world. 740 00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:28,740 This is what the left-wingers here were battling against in Seattle and Prague. 741 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,400 They just don't believe these elitists to be shape-shifting lizards or Jews. 742 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:41,840 What we do have to remember is out there, there are lots of people who are undecided on many things that he stands for that sound very progressive. 743 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,940 He's against the WTO. 744 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,140 I'm against the WTO. 745 00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:47,740 There are very rational explanations of corporate globalization. 746 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:49,900 It's not a conspiracy. 747 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,360 Corporations do what they do because they are corporations. 748 00:37:53,820 --> 00:38:03,380 And we don't need to imagine conspiracies to explain why they would do everything they possibly can to increase their profits and take away the rights of workers and suppress democracy. 749 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,520 That's their business, in fact. 750 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:07,600 That's their only business. 751 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,340 The problem is this. 752 00:38:09,340 --> 00:38:16,980 David Icke has become so popular here in Vancouver that those people who don't believe in the lizards are beginning to seem like has-beens. 753 00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:19,820 His views are expressed as the answer, you know what I mean? 754 00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:24,740 A lot of, especially young people, are getting involved in these issues and they're seeing this big task before them. 755 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:30,560 And we sort of have the answers as a group of people, but David Icke has the real answer. 756 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,400 And it's these conspiracies and they're lizards and that's linked to dehumanizing the Jewish elite. 757 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,400 And people who are just finding their ground on these issues are like, don't tell me I'm stupid. 758 00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:41,900 I'm looking for some answers and he seems to have them. 759 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:44,400 But it is all over for the coalition. 760 00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:46,800 By the end of the week, they disband. 761 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:56,340 In getting David banned from radio shows and book signings, the anti-elitists have themselves behaved like a shadowy elite, like the hidden hand. 762 00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:58,820 And nobody likes a shadowy elite. 763 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,780 The few remaining protesters resort to desperate measures. 764 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,420 There's a group in Quebec called Les Antartistes. 765 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:14,140 And what they have done is they've basically taken, you know, to use a British expression, they've taken the piss out of a lot of public figures. 766 00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:19,840 And the method that they've chosen to do it in is by cream-pying them. 767 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,180 We would never encourage anyone to engage in an act that might be construed as an assault. 768 00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:29,800 It would be hilarious, but we wouldn't certainly go out and suggest anyone engage in that kind of behavior. 769 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:36,140 Saturday, yes, at the book signing event on Granville. 770 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,340 And I would not encourage this? 771 00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:37,760 That's right. 772 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,460 I would never encourage someone to be there at 1 o'clock with a cream pie. 773 00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:42,100 All right, I'll pass that right along. 774 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:50,320 The only targets are people who are so pompous and so full of themselves that they desperately need to be taken... 775 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,040 They need some public humiliation. 776 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:52,820 Yes, exactly. 777 00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:57,200 How can you take anyone seriously when they've got pie on their face? 778 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:05,700 Saturday morning, and David is soon to be humiliated in front of his followers at a book signing at Granville Books. 779 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,680 And, uh, but I'd like it to be near the beginning because then, um, you know, you get pie on his face right at the beginning. 780 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,680 Can you do the rest of his shtick if he's all, uh, disconcerted and, uh, covered in meringue? 781 00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:19,060 Meringue is... 782 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:25,180 He's very slick and, well, his lies, you know, he's never had anything stick to him, so we wanted the meringue to stick to him. 783 00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:31,560 I mean, it's got another ability, especially these nice big sort of poofy ones, because they make a lovely fooping sound and get a good splatter, um... 784 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,020 They've got a wide splatter radius. 785 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:35,200 You look scary. 786 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,400 The protesters have decided to create a distraction by getting some of their number to dress as giant lizards. 787 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:50,980 I don't know if we look like the proper kind of New Age flakes. 788 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:58,940 That's the thing, though. It's not just New Age flakes. Like, look at Mr. Militia Man that showed up to the meeting. 789 00:40:59,380 --> 00:41:02,620 Like, that's... There's, like, a lot of different kinds of people. 790 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,800 Hey. 791 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,060 Oh my god, what are you doing here? 792 00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:10,060 Exactly. 793 00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,020 These are our... 794 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:13,260 For the lizards to wear? 795 00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:14,200 This is perfect. 796 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,500 It's a razzle, but it's great. 797 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,780 Lizard boy can't open the door. 798 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,180 How are you ever going to rule the world if we can't open the door? 799 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,800 At one o'clock, David and I walk the three blocks from the Rosedale Hotel to Granville Books. 800 00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:37,460 I am feeling just terrible about my passive role in the impending pie attack, 801 00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:40,760 but I give David no clue as to what's about to happen. 802 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Okay, perfect. 803 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:51,600 I always get butterflies, but it's kind of more of an exciting thing. Like, ooh. Like, if I didn't get butterflies, it wouldn't be as fun. It would still be fun. 804 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,080 I'm just hoping there's no total wingnuts in there that are, you know, going to react in a hostile way towards us. 805 00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:00,140 Hiya. 806 00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:00,720 Hiya. 807 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,740 So, David, we're going to put you upstairs. 808 00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:04,340 Upstairs? 809 00:42:04,340 --> 00:42:06,040 I can look down on the world like Buddha. 810 00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:06,920 Hello, David. 811 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,580 Hello. 812 00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:08,660 Nice to meet you. 813 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:09,100 How are you doing? 814 00:42:09,740 --> 00:42:09,980 Hello. 815 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,240 Nice to meet you. 816 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:11,500 Thank you. 817 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,100 He's up in the balcony. He's back to the stairs. There's a bit of a press scrum right now, actually. 818 00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:27,640 There's a bit of a little press scrum going on and some people lined up and whatnot. 819 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:36,820 What I think there's a great possibility of for Les Antartiers is just go up the stairs and get them from halfway up the stairs from the side. 820 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:44,840 You know, life speaks to us all the time. And if you observe life, it's an amazing, constantly repeating library of knowledge. 821 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:47,800 Oh, boy. Some centuries ago. 822 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:49,060 Oh, here they come. 823 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,640 The circuses are... 824 00:42:51,420 --> 00:42:54,420 The reptiles run the world, eh? 825 00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:57,840 Fuck where you're anti-Semitism. 826 00:42:58,700 --> 00:42:59,660 Tell us where you're against Jews. 827 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,660 Oh, come on. 828 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,740 You're too late. You're too late. You're too late. 829 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:10,920 Distracting people from real progressive activism with bullshit science fiction stories and anti-Semitic crap. 830 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:15,840 Maybe the loser should ask the question, ask it. Tell us why you're against Jews. 831 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:23,280 Don't care what you have to say. Get out. Don't care. Get out. You're not welcome here. Get out. Get out. Get out. 832 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:31,140 Get out of here. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out of here. 833 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:37,660 This, ladies and gentlemen of Britain, is anti-fascists at work. 834 00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:48,020 Get out. Get out. Get out. more sugar. 835 00:43:48,020 --> 00:43:51,480 The pie throwers left the store in such a hurry. 836 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,380 They didn't realize that they missed David and hit the children's book section. 837 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,480 I mean, this is par for the course when you're dealing with actions like this. 838 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:05,400 Usually something to do with children get affected by it, you know. 839 00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:06,340 Children's books. 840 00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:09,120 Yeah, not quite the same. 841 00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:12,740 I'm sure you're just a pie in red. 842 00:44:12,740 --> 00:44:13,920 Yeah, this is pretty bad. 843 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,920 You're going to lose this one. 844 00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:21,160 A pie in the face is the ultimate expression of free speech. 845 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,460 As far as I'm concerned. 846 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,640 But I'm no academic. 847 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,140 I was surprised about the violin. 848 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,280 Two people tried to trip me downstairs and one person tried to push me downstairs 849 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,680 and all three of them were old ladies. 850 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:45,620 We're just worried about getting pieds sitting so close. 851 00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:46,960 Who wants pies for dessert? 852 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,720 It's funny. 853 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,080 I was walking back after I threw pies all over and there were people looking at me in the 854 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,240 street, you know, like that. 855 00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:56,320 And I looked at them and I said, I'm just a messy eater, you know. 856 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,340 It's a privilege to be with you. 857 00:45:02,020 --> 00:45:02,800 Cheers, guys. 858 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,600 Cheers, guys. 859 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,180 Cheers, guys. 860 00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:05,880 Cheers, guys. 861 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,280 Cheers. 862 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,660 Cheers. 863 00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:06,700 Cheers. 864 00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:06,740 Okay. 865 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:10,140 The last, the last music before Daniel comes on. 866 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,340 Are we listening or are we? 867 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,740 And then after that, Daniel comes on, does his introduction. 868 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,140 His final line will be, and as people are going to see today, David, I'm going to keep 869 00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:28,700 talking no matter what, at which point right on the end of those words we need 870 00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:32,900 to hit that boy's own song no matter what. 871 00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:38,960 I heard somewhere around a thousand people will be attending so obviously 872 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,960 whatever he has to say must be more than fascinating and interesting. He's 873 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,180 definitely not a madman. Anyone that says it must be a mad person. You know there's 874 00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:50,780 no there's no way that he's a madman because people don't come to travel and 875 00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:55,880 spend fifty or sixty dollars a ticket to see a madman. The coalition had 876 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,380 originally planned a mass demonstration outside David's sellout lecture but in 877 00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:05,540 the end it is fizzled out to just a few leaflets. What does it say? It says a lot of 878 00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:12,120 rubbish. David Icke is part of the problem not the solution. Well I don't know what 879 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,580 he is but I think when people get this scared that they're preaching this kind 880 00:46:15,580 --> 00:46:20,680 rubbish. Well you haven't read it yet. I can tell by this bit here in the back. So what? 881 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:28,180 Let him make a fool of himself if that's what he's doing. Someone called me a fascist. I thought that was really cool. 882 00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:56,280 No matter what they do. No matter what they do. No matter what they teach us. What we believe is true. No matter what they call us. 883 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,380 Later I heard some of David's entourage talk about the failed protest and I 884 00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:07,620 overheard one of them say the fat Jews dup. David wasn't around to hear this 885 00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:12,780 comment. When they saw that I had they blushed and fell silent and said nothing 886 00:47:12,780 --> 00:47:25,420 like it again. The anti-racist election people managed to identify five members of the Aryan nation and I specifically saw one guy at least who was a little bit more hardcore. 887 00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:42,420 of a swastika on the back of his neck tattooed on and the SS called lightning slashes on his left forearm. So that was pretty scary. But the line was generally filled with white wealthy lizard believers. 888 00:47:42,420 --> 00:48:01,420 Later still, before David's Christmas 2000 tour of Britain, Richard Warman will write to David's British venues to inform them that David is an anti-Semite. The promoters will take Richard at his word and cancel much of the tour. But that is in the future. For now David takes his applause. 889 00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:24,140 Thank you. Thank you. 890 00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:42,600 No matter what they call us, however they attack, no matter where they take us, we'll find our own way back. 891 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:48,540 I can't deny what I believe. 892 00:48:54,140 --> 00:49:24,120 No matter what they call us, we'll find our own way back, no matter where they take us, we'll find our own way back.