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One, two, three, oh this is perfect. I'll just make a square like this. And then set the other way.

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Four feet.

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And this is where this is going. What?

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Why are you laughing?

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Hey, that's easy too.

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Okay, do you need music?

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Sometimes I wonder if you kind of know how that stuff comes across.

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Mom, it's track seven.

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That's an ancient Aryan good luck symbol.

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Do you care about people's feelings?

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Of course I do. I think I'm a pretty empathetic person.

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Because, I mean, irrespective of what the political reality is, as you see it, as other people see it, there would just be, there's just a lot of people who...

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Oh, you mean all the Jews that might be just like really upset at seeing a swastika so that they might, you know, be offended.

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Why does that make you want to cause more offense?

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See, I'm not doing it to go cause pain to somebody just because I find it entertaining to put a swastika on the floor.

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You told me to act normal.

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You told me to do stuff that I would normally have done.

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You know, when my kids and I go to the beach, sometimes we draw swastikas in the sand and you guys are nowhere around.

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Gee, I wonder why we do that.

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Maybe because we just want to, because we think it's a neat looking symbol.

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You just can't comprehend it.

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But you know what's funny?

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Is I can comprehend how you feel.

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I can understand.

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You don't seem to understand how I, my way of thinking.

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But I do somewhat understand your way of thinking because I understand, because I used to be somewhat of a brainwashed lemming like yourself.

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No offense.

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Don't take it.

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For several weeks, I've been living among a community of true believers, trying to find the humanity in people whose worldview is probably the most abhorrent and discredited conceivable.

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But so far, I wasn't having a very easy time of it.

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My journey began three weeks earlier in Fallbrook, California, a small town half an hour outside San Diego.

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I was on my way to meet one of America's most notorious racists, a grand dragon of the KKK in the 70s, a congressional candidate in the 80s,

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and now the leader of White Aryan Resistance, a self-styled revolutionary group.

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His name, Tom Metzger.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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How are you doing?

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Pretty good.

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You must be Tom.

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Which branch of the government are you from?

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I'm Tom.

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I'm from the BBC, the broadcasting arm of the government.

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Oh, the heavy-duty boys.

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Yeah.

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Come on in.

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Are you Tom's better half?

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Yes, I am, actually.

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Oh, yes.

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He's my kind of half.

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He doesn't admit that too often.

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I've got to say that.

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Yes, you do.

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Okay.

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Come on, coffee.

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Do you, I mean, I'm sort of just starting out, so I don't really, I'm not familiar with all the terminology and, you know, the specifics of your politics and your world view, but, I mean, are you, are you a Nazi?

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I think I'm more serious than most of the Nazis I've met.

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I'm a pan-Aryanist.

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I believe in white people all over the world sticking together.

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Here's the latest paper.

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So this is the main work you do, really, is, um...

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Newspaper, internet.

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War.

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Stands for?

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White Aryan Resistance.

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What have we got there?

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Well, this is a typical, uh, white whore and a black guy.

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What is the problem with a white woman going out with a black man?

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Most black men are ugly, number one.

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You think you're better looking than, uh, Denzel Washington?

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Yeah.

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Do you really?

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Oh, yeah.

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What if that was put to a vote and you were out voting?

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And if I had the money and the power and the, uh, the deal making movies, I'd get ten times more women than him.

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Do you really believe that?

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That seems delusional.

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Well, I believe it.

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I don't know whether it's delusional or not.

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Denzel Washington's in there because they have to do that.

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They have to...

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But I'm just talking about, like, just don't look.

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I mean, you gotta, I mean...

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Denzel, you think he's...

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You can't really believe that.

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Well, he's not bad-looking.

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He's not as ugly...

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Yeah, but, I mean, I think...

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He's not as ugly a nigger as most, like, uh, Kobe Bryant.

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Why did you use that word?

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I use it all the time.

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I never used to use it.

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Would you not use it around me?

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Not use it?

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In my home, I'll use it.

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Uh, if you don't want me to say it in a restaurant,

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or out someplace, I won't.

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But in my home, I'll say whatever I want.

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And then it's up to you.

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That's your right.

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Right.

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As a favor to me, though.

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No.

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If I decide I want to say nigger, I'll say it.

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If I don't want to say it, I won't say it.

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That really upsets you, doesn't it?

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Hmm.

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It doesn't really upset me.

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Well, good.

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Then we'll go on.

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Show us some more cartoon.

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It makes me think slightly less of you.

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Oh, that's okay.

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I'm not here to adopt you.

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Well, I got a lot of CDs.

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I don't know why I like every one of them,

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but some of them I probably haven't even played yet.

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There's a lot of skinhead music there.

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Bannet.

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That one.

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Yeah, that's...

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Hey, leave him alone.

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Yeah.

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What is the point of having a lynching of a black man on a CD?

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I think it's conveying the message that if a black person is out of line badly,

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that it's fine.

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They should be lynched.

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But we'll probably let the sheriff and the police do it.

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Don't you think that's quite shocking?

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I want them all out of here.

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I don't want to hang one at a time.

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Are you kidding?

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That's too slow.

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We want them all out.

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Do you really?

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Of course.

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We don't need them.

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They're a pain.

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They drag us down.

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But on the other hand, they can have their own nation,

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their own police, their own military.

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We don't want any part of them.

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They should be happy.

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You know, the blacks are always saying how...

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Don't you think that's quite shocking, Mary,

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to have a picture of a black guy being lynched on a CD?

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It's part of history.

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I don't think it's terribly shocking, huh?

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I think somebody knocked it to death.

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Yeah, who is that?

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That would be your...

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Would that be Lynn?

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I don't know.

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She said four.

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Oh, it is four.

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Ha, Laurie.

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Laurie!

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My long lost little angel.

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Who is Laurie?

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Mary?

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She's together with his daughter.

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Hello, guys.

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Hello.

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How do you do?

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Good.

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I'm Louie.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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What do you do, Laurie?

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I work at Starbucks.

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Do you?

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And I go to school.

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Do you consider yourself a racist?

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No.

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But I think in everyone's own way that everyone is racist because my whole life, you know,

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all throughout school, kids, white, black, whatever, would hate me because of my last name.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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You pointed at me.

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No, well, I mean...

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Well, why would they do that?

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Not because of you, but because, you know, Metzger.

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I never hung any of those kids.

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You know, is your dad Tom?

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Because they'd heard of Tom Metzger as a leading racist and...

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You know, even now today at work, you know, people talk about me and...

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Could you go out with a Jewish guy?

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I mean, I can.

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I'm of age.

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I can, you know, do my own choices, but...

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How would you feel about that?

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Would you worry about what your dad would think?

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Maybe a little, but...

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Not much.

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I'm not gonna ask for his approval.

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That wouldn't make me too happy.

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Well, I'm not.

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I know you're not.

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What would you do then?

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Well, I would not have a Jew with my daughter in this house.

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Period.

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It seems that it bespeaks kind of hatred, really.

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No, I hate the people who cause me to hate.

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They kill my friends.

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They imprison them for life.

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They give them many more years than they do the common black negro.

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They rape and torture our people.

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That's such bull.

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That is such bull.

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That is such bull.

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Don't you read the crime statistics in your own country, for Christ's sake?

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Don't you read what blacks do in England?

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I do.

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Excuse me.

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If I wanted to stay the night at your place, would that be feasible?

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I don't think I'd like that.

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Really?

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I don't feel comfortable with any stranger staying in my home.

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It's nothing personal.

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We can be pals and go out to lunch and go out and have a beer or something like that.

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I'll even take you out there and I'll sing karaoke to you.

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We can be buddies to that point, but it would be sort of weird of me to have a buddy buddy just

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to be a buddy nonpolitical buddy.

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Would it?

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Yeah.

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Because, I mean, I don't want to do it in a tokenistic way.

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Well, at this time it would be a very tokenistic way.

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Really?

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Just to be with you, just to be with you, there is nothing that I would do.

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It had been a long and in some ways depressing day.

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I'd found Tom's attitudes exhausting and I was still more confused when the karaoke bar

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he took me to turned out to be largely non-white.

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I could only assume that for Tom, karaoke sometimes took precedence over racism.

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The next day, and Tom was taking me to meet his recently hired manager, John Malpezi.

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John was supposedly a show business veteran with a long list of Hollywood contacts.

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Exactly why a Nazi needed such a manager was still unclear to me.

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How do you do?

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Fine.

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You must be John.

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And you must be Louis.

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Yes, I am.

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Looking forward to meeting you, Louis.

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Yeah, me too.

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Thank you.

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One of the most important things that I do is arranging for his bookings that are outside

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of the country and that are specialized bookings if you want with the advance of the appearances.

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We've got a lot of things planned for this year.

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We've got several that are up and coming that you've probably heard of and are invited to.

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And we're looking forward to a very, very busy year of raising his profile internationally

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even more than it is.

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Why?

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Why not?

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That's his job.

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That's my job.

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That's why.

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Has John seen the paper that you put out?

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Of course.

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Yes.

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Of course.

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I don't know how much he's read it, but he's seen it.

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Here again, I don't grab anybody by the lapels including my man in here.

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Right.

264
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I don't like that kind of thing.

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Remember, and remember, I'm an adult guy that's been around a long time.

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Would it be appropriate to show you the paper?

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If you're going to read striking, on fire type of stuff and ask, do you agree with this?

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I don't want to go there because that's not what this is all about.

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Other people I've known in the past, if you would pull that on them and you were in their airplane, they'd throw you out of the airplane.

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Over the jungle, you know.

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If I did what?

272
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If I did what, John?

273
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If I did what, John?

274
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Well, let's continue, okay?

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I love this guy.

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He is good.

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Hey, Tom, I hope you sang Louie Louie at the karaoke.

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Louie Louie, yeah.

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It was all a little bit weird, and I still didn't understand how exactly John and Tom fit together.

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But I'd heard rumours that John had had a colourful career prior to working with Tom, and I wondered whether that might help explain their relationship.

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Back at John's house, I seized my moment to ask.

282
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And was there some, um, did you, you had some sort of a run-in with the authorities and, and, uh...

283
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Wait, wait a minute.

284
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Wait a minute.

285
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What is this?

286
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What?

287
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Well, you spent time in...

288
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Did you tell him?

289
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You told him, didn't you?

290
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And didn't you spend time in prison, John?

291
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Sure, why not?

292
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It's all public.

293
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He's on the run.

294
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What was it?

295
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What happened?

296
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Don't tell anybody.

297
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Right, I'm on the run here, openly and notoriously.

298
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I'd rather not discuss that, you know?

299
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Come on.

300
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You can't talk about that?

301
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Well, let me put it to you this way.

302
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I represented a lot of...

303
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Come on out with the...

304
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I'll show you the view, boys.

305
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The view out here.

306
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I represented a lot of, uh, large clients, as I told you, large clients like Pablo Escobar and

307
00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000
guys like that, you know?

308
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You were some kind of cocaine?

309
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Big king pink cocaine dealer?

310
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I...

311
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Oh, me.

312
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Little old me.

313
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Oh, jeez.

314
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Seriously?

315
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See, everybody needs an attorney.

316
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Even guys like Pablo Escobar.

317
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This is...

318
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This is the view here.

319
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And how long did...

320
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How long did you get?

321
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What was your sentence?

322
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Well, I was looking at, uh, 85 years.

323
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And, uh, which would...

324
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At that age would have meant a life sentence.

325
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And, uh...

326
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We beat it, actually.

327
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And wound up doing three and a half.

328
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And I'm not ashamed to say that.

329
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What was the conviction?

330
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Um...

331
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Cocaine trafficking and related charges.

332
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Today...

333
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Today, folks, uh...

334
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I'm not into that business, uh, you know?

335
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You have to move on, you know?

336
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So, um...

337
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I do other things.

338
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How long have the two of you been in business together?

339
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Well, we've known each other some time, but several years.

340
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But we have not really been in business together very long.

341
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I'd say about a year or so, you know?

342
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000
Yeah.

343
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000
Yeah.

344
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,000
A couple of months, he said.

345
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Well, you see, it crosses over from friendship to, uh, business, and it gets a little blurry.

346
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Yeah.

347
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I know you like to stay with people.

348
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000
You're a nice guy.

349
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000
Tom's house is his house.

350
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My mother is, as, you know, she's, you know, back from the hospital in the next day or two.

351
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Uh, if you're still around, you know, it'd be my pleasure to host you, Louie.

352
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I like you.

353
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000
Really?

354
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No, I like you as a person, and I don't think you're as sneaky as you think you are.

355
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I think you're a real nice guy, you know?

356
00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000
So, uh, other questions?

357
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Would that be okay with you, Tom?

358
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I don't care.

359
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John is his own man.

360
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Yeah.

361
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All of my people are that way.

362
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They do what they decide to do.

363
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Because we were hoping to stay over with you, maybe, but...

364
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000
No.

365
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There's no...

366
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No.

367
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It's not gonna happen.

368
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No.

369
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You thinking about it?

370
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No.

371
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000
No.

372
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I wouldn't even consider it.

373
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And remember, Louie, every guy that I ever got...

374
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Who John was and how much of what he said I could believe was still all rather vague to

375
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000
me, and possibly to him too.

376
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,000
But it seemed clear that Tom trusted him, and I was intrigued by their relationship.

377
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000
Some days later, and Tom was booked to speak at a skinhead rally.

378
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000
For him to make a public appearance was quite a rarity.

379
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Usually he confined himself to his internet chat room and his phone lines.

380
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I was curious to meet a few of his supporters face to face, so a few days before the big

381
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,000
event, I decided to visit one of the organizers, a skinhead named Skip.

382
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How are you doing?

383
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Good.

384
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Good morning.

385
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Good morning.

386
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Good morning.

387
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How are you doing?

388
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000
Good.

389
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Got a little cut?

390
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000
Yeah.

391
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000
What happened?

392
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000
A little cut at work.

393
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000
Went right through the left.

394
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000
Ouch.

395
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000
Good stuff.

396
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Introduce us to your family, will you?

397
00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000
Hi, folks.

398
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How are you?

399
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,000
How are you?

400
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000
How are you?

401
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000
How are you doing?

402
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000
Good.

403
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000
Good.

404
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000
Good.

405
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000
Good.

406
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000
Good.

407
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,000
Good.

408
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000
Good.

409
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,000
Good.

410
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000
Good.

411
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000
Sidney.

412
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,000
Sidney, you're here.

413
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,000
Sidney.

414
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,000
Come on.

415
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000
This is my youngest.

416
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000
Sidney.

417
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,000
Sidney.

418
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,000
Sidney.

419
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000
This is number two, Rhiannon.

420
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000
Hi, Rhiannon.

421
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000
And this is number one, Kearney.

422
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,000
Hi, Kearney.

423
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,000
My lovely wife, Heather.

424
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000
Hi.

425
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,000
Hi, Heather.

426
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000
My baby brother, Lenny.

427
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000
Lenny.

428
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,000
How are you?

429
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,000
Lenny.

430
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,000
Lenny.

431
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000
Baby brother.

432
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000
Yeah.

433
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000
Baby brother.

434
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,000
Good stuff.

435
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,000
Yeah, good stuff.

436
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000
Well, welcome to paradise.

437
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000
Yeah.

438
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000
So this is where you live?

439
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000
This is where I live.

440
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000
This is where it all happens.

441
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,000
Where we do it all.

442
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,000
Yeah.

443
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000
It's where the magic happens.

444
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000
Watch these cats.

445
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000
Don't come running out.

446
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000
We're going in.

447
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,000
Just a regular house.

448
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000
I mean, it don't look nothing like the garage.

449
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:05,000
It's because I'm a, you know, I mean, I am responsible too at the same time.

450
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000
Yeah.

451
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000
But this is our kitchen.

452
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000
This is where we eat.

453
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000
Would you, you are a, I mean, would you call yourself a skinhead?

454
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000
You bet.

455
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000
Yeah.

456
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000
Fuck you, I haven't skinned since 83.

457
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,000
And you know, we've been making a documentary about Tom Metzger.

458
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,000
And do you regard him, how do you view him?

459
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000
As a good man.

460
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000
A good patriot.

461
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000
He's done a lot for a long time.

462
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000
He's done a lot of good for the young guys.

463
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000
Mm.

464
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000
I've been following him since like 83.

465
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000
You know, every move, all the skinheads.

466
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000
He's done a lot of, he's done a lot of good.

467
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000
Yeah, he's a good patriot.

468
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000
Would you consider yourself white racist too?

469
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000
Yeah.

470
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000
Definitely.

471
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,000
And Nancy?

472
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000
You don't look like, you're not.

473
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000
We're not big conversationally.

474
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Yeah.

475
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000
It's gonna take a little bit of a.

476
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000
She seemed on the fence with that.

477
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000
Yeah.

478
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000
You seemed a little on the fence there.

479
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000
On the fence?

480
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000
Yeah.

481
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000
Isn't it like you're not?

482
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,000
No.

483
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,000
I think you're on the fence too.

484
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000
Do you know what I mean?

485
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000
Yeah.

486
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,000
Yeah.

487
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000
I'm on the media.

488
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000
I mean, I'm in the media.

489
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000
I don't come up.

490
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000
I'm not sort of like disguising.

491
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000
I'm saying, that's like an insult to say someone's on the fence.

492
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000
Really?

493
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000
Yeah.

494
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000
Why?

495
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000
In our group, probably.

496
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000
Because get off the fence, you know what I mean?

497
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000
Yeah.

498
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000
Pick side.

499
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000
Be there.

500
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000
You know what I mean?

501
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000
That's all about it.

502
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000
I didn't mean to insult you, Nancy.

503
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000
I apologize.

504
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000
I understand.

505
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,000
So if I told you I was Jewish with the people, you know what I mean?

506
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000
You know what I mean?

507
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000
You know what I mean?

508
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000
I didn't mean to insult you, Nancy.

509
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000
I apologize.

510
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000
I understand.

511
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:35,000
So if I told you I was Jewish, would that create a problem between us?

512
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000
Well, because you've got the camera right now, I'd allow you to stay.

513
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,000
If not, I'd probably kick your ass and put you in the street somewhere.

514
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
For real?

515
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Pretty much, because a Jew wouldn't be here on my property.

516
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000
Are you Jewish?

517
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000
Do you mind if I don't answer that?

518
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000
You heard the camera.

519
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000
Are you?

520
00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,000
That's not, I'm not saying, I'm not saying yes or no.

521
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000
So you're on the fence?

522
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,000
You're on the fence.

523
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,000
I tell you what, I don't want to, I'm not a racist.

524
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,000
And I don't, I think it's, I actually think it's wrong to be a racist.

525
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:27,000
And so I feel as though by, you know, by saying whether I'm Jewish or not, I'm kind of, in a way, acknowledging the premise that it really matters when I think it shouldn't and it doesn't.

526
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000
No, we're leaving these ones alone.

527
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000
These are for the girls.

528
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000
I don't think we need as much water.

529
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000
A little bit too much.

530
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,000
I wasn't sure how long I'd be welcome at the house, but I thought I'd enjoy it while it lasted.

531
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:43,000
As the afternoon passed, I could almost have convinced myself that I was feeling relaxed.

532
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000
But something was still bothering Skip.

533
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,000
How about that?

534
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Louie's a Jew.

535
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
We already know it.

536
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
I already know it.

537
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000
You're a Jew.

538
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000
That's why you got so much animosity.

539
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000
Okay.

540
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000
We can't say you don't look like a Jew.

541
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,000
Oh!

542
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000
You're a Jew.

543
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000
You're part Jewish.

544
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,000
And don't, don't not say I'm not because you think somebody's going to beat you up, because it's not like that with us.

545
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000
Why do you care?

546
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000
How, why will it make any difference to you whether I am or not?

547
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000
Because I like to know who's been in my house.

548
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,000
We don't care as in the fact, like, we don't care if you're a Jew, a Christian, a fucking spake, or whatever, Nicker.

549
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000
You're kind of crazy.

550
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
You do look kind of Jewish.

551
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000
You got an accent like these lads.

552
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000
He's not Jewish, I'll tell you that right now.

553
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Look at his face.

554
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000
You know he's not Jewish.

555
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000
He's not Jewish.

556
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,000
But you, frankly, we look at your face, but we would like to know.

557
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:39,000
We want to know if you're a fucking Jew, and if we let you into our house to film our fucking everyday ritual, are you a fucking Jew?

558
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
Even if you are.

559
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000
I don't feel as though, I mean, maybe you disagree, I don't feel as though I've kind of compelled you to say anything.

560
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000
No, you, no.

561
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,000
I feel as though I've been respectful and I appreciate that you've listened to your house.

562
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000
I'm not even debating the fact that you've been respectful to my house and to my people.

563
00:22:51,000 --> 00:23:00,000
And I honestly don't think I would interrogate you to the point where if you said, I don't want to talk about that, I would say, okay, that's fine, we'll talk about something else.

564
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000
So I'd like you to respect me in the same way.

565
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
Can we turn the camera off for a second?

566
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Can we?

567
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,000
Pull the plug.

568
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Pull the plug for a second.

569
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000
What for?

570
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000
Well, nothing crazy.

571
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
No, no, no, it's fine.

572
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Just for free talk to not feel like we're being filmed about.

573
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000
No, I really, I would really rather not say.

574
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000
I would really rather you tell me.

575
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:29,000
I've exposed myself, I've exposed my family, I've exposed my brothers, my sisters and my children.

576
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Expose yourself now.

577
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000
I'll answer, I'll answer any, I'll answer.

578
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Let's leave it at that, can we please, Skip?

579
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000
Yeah, we will in just a second.

580
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Let's go inside, let's go inside.

581
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000
I thought it was time to leave.

582
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,000
It was the day of the skinhead rally and I was back at Tom's.

583
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Nice to see you today.

584
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Good, you look nice.

585
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Thank you, so do you.

586
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Tom is, I think, getting the final objects together.

587
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Finish loading up the car.

588
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000
The final what together?

589
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Objects.

590
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Objects?

591
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Stuff to take.

592
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Are you in there, Tom?

593
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Yo, yo, yo.

594
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Are you ready to go to the hate nanny?

595
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000
Huh?

596
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Is that what they call it?

597
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000
The hate nanny.

598
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000
With a certain amount of trepidation, I was returning to Skip's Place

599
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,000
for an all-day white power music event at which Tom would be the keynote speaker.

600
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,000
I still hadn't seen Tom among fellow racists and I was curious how he would be received.

601
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Is this it in there?

602
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000
Second house on the left.

603
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,000
Yeah, this is it.

604
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Second house.

605
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Left.

606
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Hi.

607
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000
How are you doing?

608
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Tom Metzger for Tommy Romero.

609
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000
You got a walkie-talkie?

610
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000
No.

611
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Actually, you can do that.

612
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Just add it.

613
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Walked off.

614
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Where do I park?

615
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000
You can just pull down the bag.

616
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Okay.

617
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
You got a walkie-talkie.

618
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000
You got a walkie-talkie.

619
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
You got a walkie-talkie.

620
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
You got a walkie-talkie.

621
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
You got a walkie-talkie.

622
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Hi, Tom, brother.

623
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Tom had told me he speaks at one or two rallies a year and that, by skinhead standards, this

624
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
was a major event.

625
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Hi.

626
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000
How are you doing?

627
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000
Search to meet you.

628
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000
Oh, yeah, that's fine.

629
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000
This is magazine.

630
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000
You want to take a picture of me?

631
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000
With me?

632
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Yeah.

633
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:38,000
I was hoping that Tom would be my guide through what promised to be, for me, a pretty strange

634
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000
experience.

635
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000
But with a public to meet, Tom no longer seemed to view me as a top priority.

636
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,000
As a member of the supposedly Jewish-run media, I suspected he found my presence in

637
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000
his entourage a little embarrassing.

638
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Good turnout, huh?

639
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Yeah.

640
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000
It's good.

641
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:59,000
Any of you guys want to talk about Tom at all for the documentary?

642
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000
Thank you.

643
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Any of you guys want to talk about Tom for the documentary at all?

644
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000
I've got to go back here.

645
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000
I don't talk to you.

646
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000
That's good.

647
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,000
I felt like the school kid no one wanted to be friends with.

648
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
And then the next act came on stage.

649
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:29,000
This was the first time I saw the singing duo, Lamb and Lenx.

650
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
You can really see me great .

651
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,000
I don't want to be one.

652
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,000
The journey has forever gone to land for the night,

653
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,000
you know that there's analous day that I will know never,

654
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000
you know that that doesn't go.

655
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Can you hear me out there?

656
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Yeah!

657
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000
He's tough.

658
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,000
Whoa!

659
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
It's good to be here with all you racist.

660
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Now I'll start you out, okay?

661
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Nigga, nigga, nigga!

662
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Out, out, out!

663
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Nigga, nigga, nigga!

664
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Out, out, out!

665
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
This is revolution!

666
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Revolution!

667
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Just keep your powder dry, boys.

668
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Don't waste yourself.

669
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Don't jump too soon.

670
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Just wait.

671
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
Wait till they come out.

672
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Let them get right out there.

673
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Oh, boy.

674
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
I can hardly wait.

675
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000
I've always said I wouldn't leave California

676
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000
because this is going to be the start

677
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
of the Second American Civil War.

678
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Right here in California.

679
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000
White Revolution!

680
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000
White Revolution!

681
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Thank you.

682
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,000
Thank you.

683
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Rich!

684
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,000
Rich!

685
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000
Rich!

686
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Come on in.

687
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Thank you.

688
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000
I'm having my morning popsicles.

689
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000
You like popsicles?

690
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000
I do.

691
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000
How are you doing?

692
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000
I'm a little tired, but I'm okay.

693
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Kind of morning off to feeling?

694
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000
A little bit, but I got in early.

695
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,000
How late did you stay there?

696
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,000
We left about nine, I guess.

697
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Have a popsicle.

698
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Everybody needs a popsicle.

699
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Everybody needs a popsicle.

700
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Is Mary around?

701
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
Mary fled the scene.

702
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Mary fled the scene.

703
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
She says, I can't take it anymore.

704
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Did she?

705
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Did she?

706
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000
No, she didn't.

707
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000
She had things to do, you know.

708
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000
I usually don't drag her around all over the country too much.

709
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Did she enjoy it?

710
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Yeah.

711
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Did she enjoy it?

712
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Yeah.

713
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
It was a little bit, but I got in early.

714
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
How late did you stay there?

715
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000
We left about nine, I guess.

716
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Have a popsicle.

717
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Everybody needs a popsicle.

718
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Is Mary around?

719
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000
Mary fled the scene.

720
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
She says, I can't take it anymore.

721
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Did she?

722
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000
No, she didn't.

723
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
She had things to do, you know.

724
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,000
I usually don't drag her around all over the country too much.

725
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Did she enjoy it?

726
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000
Yeah.

727
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Should we go outside for a bit?

728
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
It's very nice out.

729
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
I have to put my shoes on.

730
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Do you?

731
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Mm-hmm.

732
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
What is it you like about the skinheads?

733
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,000
I like about them because they're not hypocritical.

734
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000
They're out in the open.

735
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000
They are what they are.

736
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
They love what they are, and they don't give a damn what anybody thinks.

737
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,000
But they are strong racist, and we need them.

738
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Don't they turn off a lot of the public?

739
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
A lot of the public doesn't mean a damn to us.

740
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000
You realize we're not trying to recruit the general public.

741
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000
What would we do with them if we had them?

742
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000
They sit on their ass watching television 20 hours a day.

743
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
They're feeding their mouth full of crap.

744
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000
All they want to do is go out and buy, buy, buy.

745
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
What good would they be to us?

746
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000
We're talking about revolutionary activity.

747
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,000
We want the leaders out there in the public, but not the public.

748
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,000
We're trying to reach those people out there that really know what's cooking.

749
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:59,000
I sensed Tom and I needed a break from each other, and so I decided to drive up to central California

750
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,000
to meet the two little girls I'd seen at the rally, Lamb and Lynx, and their manager and mother, April.

751
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Hello.

752
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Hello.

753
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
You must be April.

754
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Yes.

755
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Nice to see you again.

756
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Do you remember we met at the rally?

757
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Yes, yes I did.

758
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Shall we come in?

759
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Yes.

760
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Which one's Lynx and which one's Lamb?

761
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000
I'm Lamb.

762
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Hi, Lamb.

763
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,000
The one back there is Lynx.

764
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Hello.

765
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Hello.

766
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Hello.

767
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
You must be April.

768
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Yes.

769
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Nice to see you again.

770
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Do you remember we met at the rally?

771
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Yes, yes I did.

772
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Shall we come in?

773
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Yeah.

774
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Which one's Lynx and which one's Lamb?

775
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
I'm Lamb.

776
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000
Hi, Lamb.

777
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Hi, Lamb.

778
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
The one back there is Lynx.

779
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000
Hello.

780
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000
And I'm Louie.

781
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
So very pleased to meet you.

782
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Thank you.

783
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Thank you.

784
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Thank you.

785
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Thank you.

786
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
Thank you.

787
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
I'm Louie.

788
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000
So very pleased to meet you.

789
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Remember coming from Saturday?

790
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Nice to meet you.

791
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Maybe we can do a sort of a recital later.

792
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Yeah.

793
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Yeah, I think that would be good.

794
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Okay.

795
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000
I want to tell you about South Africa

796
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,000
And the so-called fight for freedom

797
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
The much praised black resistance

798
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,000
And the communists who lead them

799
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
They're not too far away in Angola

800
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000
And near home Zimbabwe

801
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
The Marxist black dictators

802
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Are looking south in fear to see

803
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Strike force, white survival

804
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Strike force, yeah

805
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Strike force, gonna kill a rival

806
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Strike force, into the devil's lair

807
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Yeah

808
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Do they, um, they don't seem old enough to really know what that's about

809
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Well, I've explained to it some

810
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
What's the ANC?

811
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,000
It's, um, African National

812
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,000
So, African National

813
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Congress

814
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Congress

815
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Congress

816
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Okay, and what happened in South Africa?

817
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000
The, the blacks are killing whites

818
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Yeah

819
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Out of their homes

820
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000
Out of their homes

821
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
And in Zimbabwe

822
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Yeah, and in Zimbabwe

823
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Zimbabwe

824
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Zimbabwe

825
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,000
I mean, they seem a little young to get into politics and racial issues, maybe

826
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Yeah

827
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Yeah, but they've got to start sometime

828
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000
How old are they?

829
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000
They're 11

830
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000
They're 11?

831
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,000
What is the idea behind creating this group out of them that sings?

832
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,000
I think that Lamb and Lynx's music and their appeal, especially as they just get a little bit older

833
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:44,000
They're going to be an example and they're going to show how being proud of your race is something that would be very appealing to young teenage girls

834
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:57,000
You know, I mean, what young man, red blooded American boy isn't going to find two blonde twins, 16 years old, singing about white pride and pride in your race?

835
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,000
What, who, very few are not going to find that very appealing

836
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,000
So, what, so what, um, I'm just curious about how, what school do they go to? What school do you go to?

837
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,000
We home school

838
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000
We home school

839
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000
You home school? So who teaches you?

840
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,000
My mama

841
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Mom?

842
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000
There we go

843
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Okay

844
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Okay, who wants what, bologna, ham, or salami?

845
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000
So where is the, is there a man of the house, April?

846
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Yeah, there's my fiancee

847
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,000
And he, uh, declined to be shown on camera because of his occupation

848
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,000
He's worried, he, we have the same belief system and he's very supportive of everything

849
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:49,000
But he actually, he'd love to appear but he worried that it would cause him to lose his job and it would

850
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000
What does he do?

851
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000
He's an educator

852
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Would you like tomato with, tomato with it too?

853
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Are there things that they're forbidden that other kids have?

854
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Things that you deny them?

855
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Game boys, we don't

856
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Yeah, I don't, I'm not much for the Nintendo computer game stuff

857
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
People get so caught

858
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000
What about on racial terms though?

859
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Oh, we've got ethnic cleansing but that's, we don't play that very often

860
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
What's that, I said, what's that?

861
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,000
That's a, that's a computer game that the National Alliance puts out called, it's called ethnic cleansing

862
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:32,000
And it's basically a shoot-em-up computer game in which basically a skinhead goes through a ghetto and, and shoots blacks and Mexicans

863
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Do you like it?

864
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Mm-hmm

865
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:41,000
It's really hard though, cause of course all the people that you shoot have guns too

866
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000
And they're shooting bats

867
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:50,000
They're hiding bushes and stuff and they, like, they're like perched up on basketball hoops and stuff and they're climbing in trees and stuff

868
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,000
So you've got to watch out and then when you hear the gorilla sound, they make gorilla sounds

869
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000
It goes, ooh, ooh, ooh, like that and you go, whoo, like that and then you shoot it

870
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Is that a good idea? Do you think April?

871
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Mm-hmm

872
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000
It seems a little, uh...

873
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Lover?

874
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Okay

875
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:13,000
After lunch, Lam and Lynx were keen to show me their horses, stabled a short drive away

876
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
See, there is one of the kids

877
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Do you ever, look, there's a school bus

878
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Do you ever wish you went to school with the other kids?

879
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Mm-hmm

880
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Sometimes

881
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:28,000
But then I think that I will be able to go with my horse

882
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Yeah

883
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000
And that we wouldn't be able to see our mom as much

884
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
And so we'll get back

885
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,000
What did you say, Lam? You wouldn't be able to go with your horse, did you say?

886
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Yes

887
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Why?

888
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Play with my horse

889
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Well, I wouldn't in the evenings

890
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000
She's really attached to our horses

891
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Okay

892
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Yeah

893
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Oh, is that the skinhead army thingy?

894
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Who's it by?

895
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,000
It's, it's Max Resist, but I don't think, I think it's a cover by somebody else

896
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
I think somebody else, like, lands

897
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000
To all white nationalists all around the world

898
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
You're not a two, we will win

899
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Bye!

900
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000
White ball!

901
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:25,000
They call me Nazi, and I'm proud of that

902
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
They call me racist, and I shout it out loud

903
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
I'm proud of my race, I'm proud of my land

904
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000
White brothers and sisters, just don't raise your hand

905
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
We're an ADA, rock and roll band

906
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000
We're an ADA, rock and roll band

907
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
We're an ADA, rock and roll band

908
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
We're an ADA, rock and roll band

909
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Play and fighting for race and land

910
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
We are marching on the streets at night

911
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Boots and prizes, we are ready to fight

912
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Out, gook, out, run, make a run

913
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
We're Aryans, we're an ADA

914
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
We're an ADA, rock and roll band

915
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Play and fighting for race and land

916
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:09,000
If anybody asks out here why we've got a cameraman following us around

917
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000
I guess we'll just say that you're interviewing us about the kids' music

918
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Why is that?

919
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,000
I just don't want somebody messing with my horses because

920
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
You know, and hurting my horses because of my politics

921
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,000
You know, I mean, I don't know what they're going to do out here

922
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Do you have to lead a double life to some extent?

923
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
I've never really had to before because

924
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
You know, I've never been in the situation that I'm in now

925
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,000
It's really hard for me to be covert though because I'm just so

926
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,000
It's just, it's just like so much, it's like in every pore, you know

927
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
I've noticed

928
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,000
Can I help? Can I take the rag and do a bit?

929
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Yeah, if you want to

930
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000
What do I do?

931
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
I don't know, you can wipe them down if you want

932
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Is this just water?

933
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,000
Yeah, it's just water on there right now

934
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
It's just cleaning their nostrils

935
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Oh, cleaning their nostrils

936
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Are they talking to each other?

937
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
We can give them a brush

938
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Hey girls, why don't you give them a brush?

939
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Would you have a problem if Lynx or Lamb brought home a friend of another race?

940
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Yeah, I probably wouldn't be real happy about it

941
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000
What would you do?

942
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000
I would probably tell them not to

943
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000
I would probably tell them, you know

944
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
If that's what you're going to do, don't bring them home

945
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000
See, because this is the way I would see it

946
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000
I would see it first, it's the friend

947
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
It's okay to have the nice black friend

948
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000
And then the next thing, it's going to be the nice black boyfriend

949
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
And you'd have a problem with that?

950
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
I would never speak to them again

951
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000
That would be it

952
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
If they were race traitors

953
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Then they wouldn't

954
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,000
That absolutely would be

955
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
I wouldn't want to have anything to do with them ever again

956
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000
And I've told them that

957
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
I consider it because this is the way I

958
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,000
It's easy to say

959
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
But the maternal instinct's got to be

960
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
One of the strongest instincts in human beings

961
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,000
You're saying you would completely go against that?

962
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Have no contact with your child?

963
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Wow

964
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000
I would be so disappointed

965
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
I would just be so disappointed

966
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Come on

967
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Come on Becky

968
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:45,000
I couldn't quite believe the almost reckless intensity of April's racism

969
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000
She seemed to revel in how outrageous her beliefs were

970
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
I wondered how lynx and lamb would grow up

971
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000
And how they would feel about their mother once they'd left home

972
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
And were able to think for themselves

973
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Later that day we headed off to meet April's father

974
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
I'd heard he was also a proud racist

975
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
And I was hoping he might help me to understand

976
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
How April came by her beliefs

977
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
How do you do?

978
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Hello

979
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Louis Theroux, BBC

980
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Nice to meet you

981
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
You must be April's father

982
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Yeah

983
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
This is my dad, Bill Gady

984
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Bill Gady

985
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Yeah

986
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Can we um

987
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
I noticed you had it

988
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Can we look at your cattle brand?

989
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000
It's the ranch logo

990
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
I'm not sure what the right expression is

991
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
It's the cattle brand

992
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:51,000
How do you view April's beliefs as far as preserving the white race and

993
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
I think it's great

994
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Yeah, I think you ought to preserve it

995
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Certainly you should

996
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Doesn't it

997
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Doesn't it

998
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Our family were Vikings in Denmark in the 12th century

999
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Why not preserve it?

1000
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
It seems to me

1001
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
It's gonna preserve itself just fine

1002
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,000
And that there's no need for any radical action as far as laws or campaigning

1003
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000
You're sitting under a manhole cover

1004
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,000
You can't see anything

1005
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Why is that?

1006
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000
You just can't see it because you're not here

1007
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000
You can't see what's going on

1008
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Right now

1009
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
All the people have been so politically correct

1010
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
They wouldn't say shit if they had a mouth full of it

1011
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,000
You know

1012
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,000
But now the people are beginning to see what's going on

1013
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000
And their backbones are beginning to straighten up a little bit

1014
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000
And get a little stiffer

1015
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
All the white people are

1016
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,000
I'm a multiculturalist

1017
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Are you?

1018
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Yeah

1019
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,000
When you get married are you gonna marry a white person or a nigger?

1020
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Huh?

1021
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
What do you usually date?

1022
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Do you usually date white women?

1023
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000
So far

1024
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000
That's what you find attractive

1025
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Does Jewish count as white?

1026
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000
No

1027
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000
No

1028
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Not in our books

1029
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Why not?

1030
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,000
I think we should hope that he marries some Jewess

1031
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
I mean won't that be funny

1032
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000
A Jap

1033
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Yeah

1034
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000
A Jewish American princess

1035
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000
I hope boy

1036
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000
You're gonna be

1037
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
A Jap

1038
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000
A Jewish American princess

1039
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000
She's gonna have you right there

1040
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Just it right down

1041
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000
What's your name?

1042
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Louie

1043
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Louie

1044
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Louie

1045
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,000
I want a new ring Louie

1046
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,000
To bring me my coffee too Louie

1047
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000
I come and flush the toilet for me Louie

1048
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
I can't put the handle down

1049
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000
So is that where you get it from do you think April?

1050
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
The biggest gift that I got from my father

1051
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Was to not give a rip about what anybody else thought

1052
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000
It's what you thought

1053
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
It's what you really knew in your heart

1054
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Was the right thing to do

1055
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,000
It didn't matter

1056
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
If every single person was against you

1057
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000
If you know what you believe is right

1058
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Then you have

1059
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
And you can have the strength

1060
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
To fight against everybody

1061
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000
And to stand strong against everyone

1062
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
And I believe that I inherited that

1063
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,000
I think in the genes

1064
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
And then I was taught that also

1065
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,000
And I think

1066
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000
And I owe my dad a lot for giving me that

1067
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
That was a gift

1068
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000
That was a gift

1069
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000
That was a gift

1070
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000
That was a gift

1071
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000
That was a gift

1072
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
That was a gift

1073
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
And I look to hear

1074
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000
That was a gift

1075
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,000
That was a gift

1076
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,000
That was a gift

1077
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
That was a gift

1078
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:48,240
Back in Fallbrook, and I had a date with Tom.

1079
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,040
There was a plan in place to meet another of his daughters,

1080
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,380
this one named Lynn, but before that, a barbecue.

1081
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Good afternoon.

1082
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Do you feel at home?

1083
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Very much so.

1084
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,680
Look at you, you're wearing a bowler hat.

1085
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Yeah, how do you like that?

1086
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,600
Do you feel at home?

1087
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,080
It's good.

1088
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:07,940
Come on in.

1089
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:08,440
It's good.

1090
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:09,380
Is that in honor of me?

1091
00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:10,620
Yeah, right.

1092
00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:12,420
A little bubble of something.

1093
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:15,000
You should have brought two or three, but that's all right.

1094
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,400
That's all right.

1095
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,980
I've got one more in the car if we run low.

1096
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,560
All right.

1097
00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:20,400
So the plan is to have a barbecue, is that right?

1098
00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:20,840
Yeah.

1099
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:21,480
Yeah.

1100
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:23,600
Just keep it real simple, real easy.

1101
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,340
Yeah, that's how I like it.

1102
00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:26,000
Hi, John.

1103
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,680
How are you doing?

1104
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:27,320
Fine, Mary.

1105
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,500
Good to see you again, dear.

1106
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:31,660
Good to see you, John.

1107
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:33,800
Oh, the camera's on.

1108
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,360
I brought something for Louis.

1109
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:37,320
Back, Louis, back.

1110
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:38,860
Back, Louis, back.

1111
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,520
John.

1112
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,040
What does it mean?

1113
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,480
This cross came from the movie Scream, Dracula, Scream.

1114
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Oh, I definitely saw that one.

1115
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:51,880
Right.

1116
00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:53,140
So it's a prop.

1117
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,300
You haven't met Laurie before, John?

1118
00:44:55,420 --> 00:44:55,760
No.

1119
00:44:55,940 --> 00:44:56,340
Well, no.

1120
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,920
They've kept me in a cage whenever she's around.

1121
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,080
I've got to watch it when it comes to young girls.

1122
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,280
That's right.

1123
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,960
No, I've heard that John prefers Mexican women.

1124
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,460
What?

1125
00:45:09,020 --> 00:45:10,640
Where is that cross again?

1126
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,540
Back, Louis, back.

1127
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,060
Can't we talk about that?

1128
00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:14,000
Back, Louis, back.

1129
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,440
It didn't work in the movie, so sorry.

1130
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Yeah.

1131
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,600
I got those pork specially for you to check you out.

1132
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:30,680
The turkey.

1133
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,180
Ha, ha, ha.

1134
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,480
He read the label.

1135
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:34,280
Ha, ha, ha.

1136
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,100
I told Mary I was going to do that.

1137
00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:42,840
Do you care if I'm Jewish?

1138
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,640
Not for this, no.

1139
00:45:47,220 --> 00:45:48,500
What about for something else?

1140
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,540
You're doing your job.

1141
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,100
That's the way it goes.

1142
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,880
Sometimes there's neutral territory.

1143
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:57,780
I wonder if you could give me a hand.

1144
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:01,240
I don't really know what I'm doing.

1145
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:03,600
Well, you said you wanted to help cook.

1146
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:04,040
Yeah.

1147
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,700
Well, we've got to turn down the...

1148
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:07,500
That is a little...

1149
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:08,520
That's not too hot, isn't it?

1150
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,280
It's too hot.

1151
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,000
Should we invite the neighbors over?

1152
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,780
I think the neighbors went to TJ.

1153
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,580
Who have you got on that side?

1154
00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:21,820
Well, that's a white guy.

1155
00:46:21,940 --> 00:46:23,700
He's married to a Mexican gal.

1156
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,420
She's an American-type Mexican.

1157
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:28,220
They got a couple of kids.

1158
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:29,680
Do you get on okay with them?

1159
00:46:29,740 --> 00:46:30,680
Yeah, we get along okay.

1160
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,300
Is she...

1161
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:31,880
She's white?

1162
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:33,340
No, she's not white.

1163
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,700
But she's friendly.

1164
00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:35,580
We don't have a problem.

1165
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:40,020
I hope you like your hot dogs well done.

1166
00:46:40,020 --> 00:46:42,320
I think that's about well done enough, man.

1167
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,740
Man, you have screwed my hot dog up.

1168
00:46:46,740 --> 00:46:48,160
I think it's a Polish sausage.

1169
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,020
Let me get that.

1170
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,020
Do you want me to put another one on?

1171
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,100
No, no, that's not...

1172
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:52,640
That's okay.

1173
00:46:52,780 --> 00:46:53,340
That's edible.

1174
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,620
Then it was off to see Tom's daughter, Lynn,

1175
00:47:00,820 --> 00:47:02,000
and her daughter, Valerie,

1176
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,360
who, like Lamb and Lynx, is 11 years old.

1177
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:07,700
I'd heard Lynn was the most racist of Tom's five daughters,

1178
00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:09,460
so I was curious to meet her.

1179
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:14,360
Maybe the wrong place down here.

1180
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,680
I got the wrong place.

1181
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,280
Hey!

1182
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:17,760
Hey!

1183
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,540
I saw you guys walk at Mark.

1184
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Like, where are you going?

1185
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,260
Well, you know me.

1186
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,540
I know, I know.

1187
00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:24,160
I forget.

1188
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:24,760
They all...

1189
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,340
You have a bunch of communist places.

1190
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:27,180
They all look alike.

1191
00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:28,080
They all do.

1192
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,000
Hello.

1193
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Hello, Simon?

1194
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Louie.

1195
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:31,140
Louie.

1196
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,960
This is Louie.

1197
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Very nice to meet you.

1198
00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:33,760
Nice to meet you, too.

1199
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,400
Simon, Lynn.

1200
00:47:34,580 --> 00:47:34,920
Louie.

1201
00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:35,580
This is Valerie, my daughter.

1202
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,180
Nice to meet you.

1203
00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:36,760
How do you do?

1204
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:37,940
Louie's the star.

1205
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,180
The star, huh?

1206
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:39,860
Don't forget it.

1207
00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:41,520
We won't.

1208
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,220
Come on in.

1209
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:45,720
Tom said you used to run the Aryan Women's League.

1210
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:46,300
I did.

1211
00:47:47,140 --> 00:47:47,860
I did.

1212
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,200
In fact, it was running for about...

1213
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:50,340
Thank you.

1214
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:53,280
I guess five, six years.

1215
00:47:54,380 --> 00:47:58,660
And we decided to merge with war, because we were doing the same thing.

1216
00:47:59,260 --> 00:48:00,940
War is Tom's organization.

1217
00:48:00,940 --> 00:48:01,260
Exactly.

1218
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:01,940
Exactly.

1219
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:03,000
Basically, I'm curious.

1220
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,040
Do you have the same kind of racial views that Tom does?

1221
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,780
I do.

1222
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:06,800
I do.

1223
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:07,820
I don't...

1224
00:48:07,820 --> 00:48:10,860
I'm not one of these labels type of people.

1225
00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:15,240
Nazi, left, right, Democrat, Republican, you know, pacifist, whatever.

1226
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:16,660
I don't like that.

1227
00:48:17,380 --> 00:48:21,140
I do have a strong sense of racial identity.

1228
00:48:21,460 --> 00:48:21,680
Yeah.

1229
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,800
A strong sense of nature, believing in nature, etc.

1230
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,900
And, um, but I don't like, I don't like the labels.

1231
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,000
I don't even like to hear them, because they really don't mean anything.

1232
00:48:32,180 --> 00:48:36,740
Are you comfortable, just to, are you comfortable seek heiling, for example?

1233
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,200
I'm comfortable with it.

1234
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:38,540
Yeah.

1235
00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:41,280
It's not something I do often.

1236
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:46,060
In fact, last night I did, and that was probably the first time in a long time.

1237
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,000
What's Valerie's position?

1238
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,760
I mean, is Valerie comfortable on camera, or is she going to sort of hang back?

1239
00:48:51,860 --> 00:48:54,880
Um, I, uh, I asked her, and she said in the background would be fine.

1240
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:55,020
Yeah.

1241
00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:56,780
I don't have a problem not talking to her.

1242
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,100
Okay.

1243
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,300
Um, she's 11 years old.

1244
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,940
She's, she's kind of big for her age, but she's, you know, she's a really good kid.

1245
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,040
Are you, I mean, are you bringing her up as a racist?

1246
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:10,240
Bringing her up as a racist.

1247
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:16,660
I'm bringing her up very aware of her heritage, very aware of what's going on.

1248
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:24,880
Um, I've often told her I have opinions, I have beliefs, and just like my dad did when

1249
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,240
I was a kid, um, I told her that she needs to explore.

1250
00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:32,320
She needs to know what's out there, and she can't just take what I say.

1251
00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:38,420
Would she, would you be happy for her to bring children, friends of other races, back to the

1252
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:38,760
house?

1253
00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:39,080
No.

1254
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,660
I wouldn't be happy.

1255
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,560
I mean, honestly.

1256
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:51,260
Um, I mean, she's going to, you know, what I believe is she's going to, you know, learn

1257
00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:56,400
from me and my actions and my words and my thoughts when I put them into actions.

1258
00:49:58,340 --> 00:49:59,620
So we'll just see what happens.

1259
00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:12,260
I was nearing the end of my time with Tom, and for some days, John had been talking about

1260
00:50:12,260 --> 00:50:13,740
the idea of going to Mexico.

1261
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,020
His exact purpose was unclear, but for me, I thought it might be a chance to see Tom in

1262
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:21,700
a different environment, and so I thought I'd tag along.

1263
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:29,700
Hey, John, how are you doing?

1264
00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:30,860
You're going to love it.

1265
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,400
Let's get ready to go.

1266
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:33,380
Where's Tom?

1267
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:34,760
He's waiting for us.

1268
00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:35,020
Where?

1269
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:36,100
At his house.

1270
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:36,480
Oh, great.

1271
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:37,060
So let's go.

1272
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,080
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1273
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:39,200
Let me get it going.

1274
00:50:39,620 --> 00:50:40,680
I've got it all prepared.

1275
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,600
I've got, uh, now, Louie, what do you think?

1276
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,320
Is, is, am I going to be too warm today, dressed like this?

1277
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,640
I look like a tourist, which is what I want to look like, instead of, like, the slick

1278
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,220
guy like you that I should be looking like, you know?

1279
00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:59,500
And why are we interested in seeing Tom in, in Mexico?

1280
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,680
You're going to love to be seeing Tom in Mexico.

1281
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,300
Why?

1282
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Well, you're going to see what an international politician does.

1283
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:10,940
Now, these are my, uh, little medicines here for myself.

1284
00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:14,940
He's a racist politician, so I suppose it's interesting to see him among, uh...

1285
00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:15,940
In a racist country.

1286
00:51:15,940 --> 00:51:17,600
They will respect him like a...

1287
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,700
Oh, they're racist down there.

1288
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:19,400
You didn't know that?

1289
00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:22,820
Follow me.

1290
00:51:24,020 --> 00:51:26,140
Hey, Louie, he's afraid of getting kidnapped.

1291
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,280
No, he isn't.

1292
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:28,020
Yes, he is.

1293
00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:30,500
Every time he goes to Mexico, they try to kidnap him.

1294
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,240
So we'll be in your car?

1295
00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:34,760
No, we'll be in your car.

1296
00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:38,620
So what is the plan when we get there?

1297
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:40,740
Why don't you tell them the truth?

1298
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:42,980
You just want to get to that whore down there.

1299
00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:45,260
That's what you're really saying.

1300
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:47,740
I wouldn't refer...

1301
00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:51,500
I wouldn't refer to a lovely lady like that as a whore.

1302
00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:53,700
Well, if you pay money, she's a whore.

1303
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:55,100
It's Montserrat.

1304
00:51:57,220 --> 00:51:57,560
Hello?

1305
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,780
Hey, did I send this?

1306
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,260
It says, oh, send, I'm sorry.

1307
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:04,480
Darling, Jesus Christ.

1308
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:18,820
Boy, that's a mouthful, huh?

1309
00:52:18,820 --> 00:52:22,880
Yeah, we're in.

1310
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:23,520
We're in.

1311
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:24,380
Watch it now.

1312
00:52:24,380 --> 00:52:26,560
Stay in the right lane.

1313
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,060
Right lane.

1314
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:28,660
Why are you getting in the middle lane?

1315
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:29,300
Downtown.

1316
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:30,660
Get over to the left.

1317
00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:32,140
See?

1318
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,560
Left lane, Louie.

1319
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,160
Hurry up.

1320
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Boy, you got more backseat drivers than you ever had.

1321
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,360
Right turn here, Louie.

1322
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,460
If you want a new life, what's a hum in its way?

1323
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:45,640
Darkness on the road.

1324
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:51,100
I was still curious what form Tom's ambassadorial trip would take, and was surprised when John

1325
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:53,960
began directing me to Tijuana's tourist bars.

1326
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,660
I want a sombrero.

1327
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:57,440
I want to buy.

1328
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,320
I'll take you right.

1329
00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:00,020
They're right down there, all those shops.

1330
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:00,560
Let's go.

1331
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:00,880
Yeah.

1332
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Well, let's have a drink first.

1333
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,260
Yeah, let's get a drink first.

1334
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:06,060
The drinks are right down there, too.

1335
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:07,380
Montserrat!

1336
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Is that her?

1337
00:53:14,380 --> 00:53:15,820
Does she recognize you?

1338
00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:17,300
Montserrat!

1339
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:19,600
So, yo!

1340
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:21,360
Ah, for feed!

1341
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,360
Oh!

1342
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,700
How are you doing?

1343
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:26,320
Oh!

1344
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,620
How are you?

1345
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:30,320
Good, good, my love.

1346
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:30,920
I'm very much.

1347
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Good to meet you, Louie.

1348
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:32,920
Hello, I'm Louie.

1349
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,720
This is Louie, a guy like, what's his name?

1350
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:39,920
Roberto Rivera, from Inglaterra.

1351
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,420
Yes.

1352
00:53:40,420 --> 00:53:46,920
This is my cliente, Tom Metzger, a friend of Elcini in the United States, and he is the crew.

1353
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Take a seat, my love.

1354
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,520
Montserrat.

1355
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,020
Montserrat, and I are going to get married one day.

1356
00:53:54,020 --> 00:53:56,420
Vamos casar un buen día.

1357
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,040
Can we say what it's about?

1358
00:53:59,380 --> 00:53:59,760
No.

1359
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Because I don't want to, who knows what her politics or her celebrity, you know, things are.

1360
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,440
She's my girl, she's my girl, and she's going to be showing us around.

1361
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Mmm.

1362
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,440
Mmm.

1363
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,440
Mmm.

1364
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,440
Mmm.

1365
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,440
Mmm.

1366
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,440
Mmm.

1367
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,440
Mmm.

1368
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,940
You guys got a documentary following?

1369
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:21,940
Yeah, we do.

1370
00:54:21,940 --> 00:54:22,940
Where are you from?

1371
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:23,940
Uh, Sacramento.

1372
00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:25,960
I used to be the head of the KKK in California.

1373
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,960
No shit.

1374
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,960
Yeah.

1375
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:28,960
And now, I come down with it.

1376
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,460
What happened?

1377
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:30,460
You got kicked out or what?

1378
00:54:30,460 --> 00:54:31,460
No, I quit.

1379
00:54:31,460 --> 00:54:32,460
But anyhow.

1380
00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:33,860
Oh, I got something really wild.

1381
00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:34,860
I'm skinhead now.

1382
00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:36,860
You guys need me in Sacramento.

1383
00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:37,860
That's a fucked up place.

1384
00:54:37,860 --> 00:54:39,360
It's all fucked up.

1385
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,360
No, you got Schwarzenegger.

1386
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,360
He's going to terminate the KKK.

1387
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,360
The black nigger, right.

1388
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,360
He's going to terminate the state.

1389
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,360
He's going to fuck.

1390
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,360
Hey, you think he's going to save us?

1391
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Bullshit.

1392
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,360
I don't know.

1393
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,360
You sound like a racist to me.

1394
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,360
I am a racist.

1395
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,360
What the hell are you talking about?

1396
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,360
I'm not a racist.

1397
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,360
You're not a racist?

1398
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,360
I'm not a racist.

1399
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,360
Don't you want your grandchildren to look like you?

1400
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,360
I don't give a shit about my grandchildren.

1401
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,360
Oh, man.

1402
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,360
Oh, you're killing me.

1403
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,360
One dollar.

1404
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,360
It's one dollar, Tom.

1405
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,360
Give him a dollar as a tip.

1406
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,360
Buy me a beer, too.

1407
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Yeah.

1408
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,360
One more.

1409
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,360
One more.

1410
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,360
One more.

1411
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,360
One more.

1412
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,360
One more.

1413
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,360
Good choice, Tom.

1414
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,360
Bamba!

1415
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,360
Bamba!

1416
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,360
Come on, say.

1417
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,360
Bamba!

1418
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,360
Bamba!

1419
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,360
The ambassadorial visit was degenerating into a pub crawl.

1420
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,360
It had all become rather chaotic.

1421
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,360
Do I need another hat?

1422
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,360
Rings?

1423
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,360
I need a bigger hat, is what I need.

1424
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,360
No swastika?

1425
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,360
Do you have any swastika rings?

1426
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,360
Swastika.

1427
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,360
Swastika.

1428
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Where's Tom?

1429
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,360
Where's Tom gone?

1430
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,360
Several tequilas later, we lost Tom in a souvenir shop somewhere.

1431
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,360
When he resurfaced, he seemed even more drunk.

1432
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,360
He was concerned that he could have been attacked or kidnapped,

1433
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,360
and accused John of neglecting his security duties.

1434
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,360
I don't depend on anybody who runs any town.

1435
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,360
I depend on my security.

1436
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,360
And when I walk out of a place and my security is not there...

1437
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,360
Well, did Louis leave you?

1438
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,360
You don't seem to understand, John.

1439
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,360
No.

1440
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,360
What I'm trying to tell you is, there are certain towns that are run a certain way,

1441
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,360
and I am totally wired in down here.

1442
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,360
I don't give a shit how you're wired in.

1443
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,360
I'm wired into only my own people.

1444
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,360
I don't trust anybody else, nobody town, nobody you know.

1445
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,360
I trust my friends.

1446
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,360
My security next time is coming with me.

1447
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,360
But I'm telling you, if I can walk around here...

1448
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,360
My friends are concerned about my security.

1449
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,360
If I can walk around here with a fucking hat on my head, looking like a clown...

1450
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,360
No, but your whole brain's full of pussy.

1451
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,360
That's all you're thinking about.

1452
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,360
No, it's not.

1453
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,360
You think I'm not a racist?

1454
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,360
No, you're not a racist like I am.

1455
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,360
Tell me I'll vote for it.

1456
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,360
I'm gonna make a bet.

1457
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,360
I'm gonna put my dollar down, okay?

1458
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,360
He would fuck Montserrat, and I would...

1459
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,360
Why?

1460
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,360
She's not white.

1461
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,360
I gotta go pee.

1462
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,360
The day was winding to a close,

1463
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,360
and I reflected on Tom's fears of being kidnapped.

1464
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,360
I felt this was Tom at his most unguarded,

1465
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,360
and what struck me was Tom's fantasies of his own importance.

1466
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,360
In the car on the way home,

1467
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,360
John made a last attempt to salvage something from the international trip.

1468
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,360
Tom, tell us about Mexico, okay?

1469
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,360
What do you think about it?

1470
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,360
Was it fun?

1471
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,360
I think it's a very interesting place to visit,

1472
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,360
and I think a lot of areas should go there,

1473
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,360
and carve out something like a country.

1474
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,360
And that might be something that I'm thinking about.

1475
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,360
And you know what?

1476
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,360
That's exactly what we're all thinking about here.

1477
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,360
When I saw how well you could get on up there, Tom,

1478
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,360
it made me think,

1479
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,360
well, maybe you'd abandon racism, you know?

1480
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,360
Maybe you'd find that you didn't really...

1481
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,360
It wasn't something that you needed anymore.

1482
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Ah!

1483
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,360
Let me answer that.

1484
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Let me answer that, because...

1485
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,360
I don't understand.

1486
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Right.

1487
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,360
Tom is actually...

1488
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,360
You don't understand, Louis.

1489
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,360
It's like...

1490
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,360
Go through the next...

1491
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Go up the hill, go up the hill.

1492
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,360
Here's what we're gonna say.

1493
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,360
He doesn't, because...

1494
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,360
He doesn't.

1495
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,360
Because...

1496
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,360
Because the Mexican guys...

1497
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,360
Let Tom answer, John.

1498
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,360
No, I don't want him to answer right now,

1499
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,360
because it's been a long day,

1500
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,360
and my client is tired.

1501
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,360
Yeah.

1502
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,360
He's tired.

1503
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,360
He's...

1504
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,360
He's...

1505
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,360
He's relaxing now.

1506
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,360
Please.

1507
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,360
Here.

1508
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Mary!

1509
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,360
Hi, dear.

1510
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,360
We've got one rather drunken gentleman with us.

1511
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,360
It was all a far cry from the statesman's visit

1512
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,360
that John had advertised.

1513
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,360
I had to keep reminding myself

1514
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,360
that Tom was supposed to be

1515
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,360
one of the most dangerous racists in America.

1516
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,360
It was my last day with Tom.

1517
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,360
For some time,

1518
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,360
I'd been badgering him

1519
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,360
for a chance to see him at his day job.

1520
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,360
You stay here.

1521
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Stay.

1522
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,360
Good morning.

1523
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,360
Good morning.

1524
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,360
Hello there.

1525
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,360
Friend or foe?

1526
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,360
Well, we haven't worked that out yet, have we?

1527
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,360
OK.

1528
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,360
Stay here for him.

1529
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,360
That's a work in progress.

1530
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,360
I've got to keep my bandit dog back in there.

1531
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,360
He's so used to running in the car

1532
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,360
that sometimes I have to leave him here.

1533
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,360
Tom's a TV repairman,

1534
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,360
and today he was picking up a TV

1535
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,360
from one of his most faithful clients.

1536
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,360
Do you want a hand with that, Tom?

1537
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,360
Oh, sure.

1538
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,360
Well, wait a minute.

1539
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,360
I've got to open up the back door.

1540
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,360
Is it your TV?

1541
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,360
Yes.

1542
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,360
And what's the problem?

1543
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,360
Uh, well, it doesn't work too good.

1544
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,360
Yeah.

1545
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,360
So, anyway, I have known Tommy for many years.

1546
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,360
Have you?

1547
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Oh, yes.

1548
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,360
And, uh, I have not found in the Fallbrook

1549
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,360
or in L.A. where I lived many years.

1550
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,360
Yeah.

1551
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,360
Uh, men that are honest.

1552
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,360
Yeah.

1553
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,360
You like him?

1554
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Oh, I like him very much,

1555
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,360
and if I'm not in here, I leave my key.

1556
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,360
So, I, that much I trust him.

1557
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,360
What about, do you know about his politics?

1558
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,360
Yes.

1559
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,360
Uh, well, we don't argue about politics.

1560
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Uh, I know him as a man.

1561
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,360
He's got his ideas, and I have mine.

1562
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,360
Yeah.

1563
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,360
He does not interfere with it.

1564
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,360
He's a friend of mine for a long time.

1565
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,360
Yeah.

1566
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,360
How about that?

1567
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,360
And what's your...

1568
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,360
You sound like you've got a slight accent.

1569
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,360
Where are you from originally?

1570
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,360
From Peru.

1571
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,360
From Peru?

1572
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,360
Yes.

1573
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,360
Peruvian.

1574
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,360
Yeah.

1575
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,360
I never ask you that myself.

1576
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,360
That's true, Tommy.

1577
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,360
And your name is?

1578
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,360
Oscar.

1579
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Oscar.

1580
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,360
Yeah.

1581
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,360
And, of course, when his wife was alive, I...

1582
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,360
We used to...

1583
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,360
We used to live in a big house.

1584
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,360
That's right.

1585
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,360
They used to live in a house over here on the other side.

1586
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,360
Stage culture.

1587
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,360
Oscar was just saying that as far as politics,

1588
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,360
you kind of agree not to talk about it.

1589
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Right.

1590
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,360
That's right.

1591
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:02,360
Exactly.

1592
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,360
That's absolutely right.

1593
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,360
I respect other people's ideas.

1594
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,360
Yeah.

1595
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,360
Yep.

1596
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,360
Are you all right with that, Tommy?

1597
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,360
You get one side, I'll get the other side.

1598
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,360
No.

1599
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,360
Come on.

1600
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,360
Oscar believes in free speech.

1601
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Do you know how much he's going to charge yet?

1602
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,360
No, I don't care about that.

1603
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,360
You don't worry about it.

1604
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,360
He knows I'll never cheat him.

1605
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,360
He's the honest and the best technician.

1606
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,360
Would you consider Tom a friend?

1607
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,360
Yes.

1608
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,360
Absolutely.

1609
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,360
No hesitation.

1610
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Yeah.

1611
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Yeah.

1612
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,360
And you'd consider Oscar a friend?

1613
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:36,360
I believe so, yes.

1614
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,360
Yeah, sure.

1615
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,360
It's been a long...

1616
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,360
We've had a long association.

1617
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,360
That's true.

1618
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,360
Longer than my girlfriend.

1619
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,360
I've only known her ten years.

1620
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,360
Don't tell Mary that.

1621
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,360
Yeah.

1622
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:52,360
You're one of the most famous racists in America.

1623
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,360
Yeah.

1624
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,360
Maybe the most famous.

1625
01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:01,360
And there you were saying that you were friends with this guy who looked to me non-white,

1626
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,360
or at least mixed race, and it just seemed inconsistent.

1627
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,360
I just thought that was kind of weird.

1628
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Well, maybe you need to be educated in the ways of the world.

1629
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,360
How do you mean?

1630
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,360
I mean, don't you see that as inconsistent?

1631
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,360
Uh...

1632
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,360
That you would call...

1633
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Well...

1634
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,360
You would say you have a friend and it's this guy who looks like he was mixed race?

1635
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,360
I don't get that.

1636
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,360
Louis is hanging on this friend thing, a very abstract word.

1637
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,360
I would not debate the term friend on the man's doorstep.

1638
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,360
Yeah.

1639
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,360
Now, you and I can debate it and like that.

1640
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,360
I don't want to hurt the man's feelings.

1641
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,360
No, but there was more to it than that, Tom.

1642
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,360
I felt warmth between you.

1643
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,360
That's just an association, that you know these people.

1644
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,360
And common courtesy and politeness.

1645
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,360
Don't you see...

1646
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,360
Do you really not...

1647
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,360
You treat them respectfully.

1648
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Do you really not see what I'm trying to say?

1649
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,360
I see what you're trying to say, but your brain is twisted.

1650
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,360
I think your brain is twisted.

1651
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,360
Well, then we agree.

1652
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,360
We both agree that we believe each other's brain is twisted.

1653
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Yeah, but the facts are on my side.

1654
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,360
And your brain is going to stay twisted and...

1655
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,360
You have friends who are non-white and you...

1656
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,360
I don't have...

1657
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,360
And you holler around with people who are non-white.

1658
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,360
I don't have...

1659
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,360
You're living a happy life in a gorgeous multicultural community.

1660
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,360
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1661
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,360
I have people...

1662
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,360
And then you keep pretending that you're a revolutionary,

1663
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,360
but the facts of your existence completely undermine us.

1664
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,360
Doesn't that totally fit your package?

1665
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,360
It's the truth, though.

1666
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,360
It is the truth.

1667
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,360
This is really funny.

1668
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,360
Your day-to-day life is a standing refutation of everything you profess to believe.

1669
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,360
No, it's not.

1670
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,360
It's not either.

1671
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,360
It is.

1672
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,360
Well, follow me to a hostile meeting and I'll show you.

1673
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,360
They'll be trying to kill me and I may have to try and kill them.

1674
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,360
I think you're a hypocrite.

1675
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,360
Oh, OK.

1676
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,360
All right.

1677
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,360
So what?

1678
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,360
I know what I am.

1679
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:56,360
I don't need Louis Thoreau to quantify what I am.

1680
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,360
As abhorrent as his views were, I found it hard to take Tom totally seriously.

1681
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,360
He seemed to like being seen as a dangerous figure,

1682
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,360
but was all the while enjoying the fruits of a multiracial democracy.

1683
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:22,360
I felt there was a touch of karaoke about this supposed international politician.

1684
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,360
I was still puzzled by John, though,

1685
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:29,360
and thought I'd pay him one last visit to see if I could pin him down.

1686
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,360
We'll look at the cartoons.

1687
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,360
OK.

1688
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,360
How far will niggers go to compound the misery of an unfortunate situation?

1689
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,360
How about looting during a major hurricane?

1690
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,360
Do you find...

1691
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,360
How do you react to that?

1692
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,360
I don't have any reaction at all.

1693
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,360
I just smoked a cigarette.

1694
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,360
Can I...

1695
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,360
I got...

1696
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,360
My mouth is a little dry.

1697
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,360
Can I go over to the hose and, you know, get a little water?

1698
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,360
Yeah.

1699
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,360
Yeah, let's go.

1700
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,360
OK.

1701
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,360
I don't want to...

1702
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,360
Do you want to stop doing this, John?

1703
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,360
No, no, no, no, no.

1704
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,360
I want to answer your questions because it's...

1705
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,360
I mean, this is the message that you're...

1706
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,360
This is what a manager does.

1707
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,360
This is what an agent or a manager does.

1708
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:25,360
Oh, phew.

1709
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:26,360
Cigarettes.

1710
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,360
Yuck.

1711
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:34,360
Because this is the message that you're promoting.

1712
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:40,360
So how is this going to come out?

1713
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,360
Are you going to say that, you know, I'm an asshole because of this magazine?

1714
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,360
I'd say that to your face.

1715
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,360
This is my client's...

1716
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,360
This is my client's magazine.

1717
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,360
I'm not trying to make you...

1718
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:55,360
A manager that is working for their client is working for their client.

1719
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,360
A lawyer that is representing somebody...

1720
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,360
I think you know...

1721
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,360
I mean, I think you know that this stuff is obscene and that's why...

1722
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,360
It's not obscene.

1723
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,360
I can see the way you talk about it.

1724
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,360
You have a kind of sense of guilt about it.

1725
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,360
I honestly can.

1726
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,360
I think that's why your...

1727
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
I think that's why your mouth went...

1728
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,360
Gosh, I love you so much, Louie.

1729
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,360
I know you kind of have a sense of guilt about it.

1730
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,360
I can tell.

1731
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,360
I seriously can.

1732
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,360
You know I have a sense of guilt?

1733
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,360
Well, Louie, let me tell you something.

1734
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,360
There is no sense of guilt.

1735
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,360
There is...

1736
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,360
A representative's duty.

1737
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,360
And I think you're only doing it because you had a few bad breaks.

1738
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,360
You had your problem with drugs, getting arrested...

1739
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,360
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1740
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,360
And so you can't get other clients.

1741
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,360
So that's why you're representing...

1742
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,360
No, no, no, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's deal with this like this.

1743
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,360
Because you've...

1744
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,360
No, no, no, no, no.

1745
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,360
Let me answer your question.

1746
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,360
A few bad breaks.

1747
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,360
When I went to prison, it was the best thing that ever happened to me in the world.

1748
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,360
You know why?

1749
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,360
It taught me what's really going on.

1750
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,360
Do you think this is the truth, what's in this paper?

1751
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:08,360
He's appealing as any political figure to a broad base of many dimensions of people.

1752
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,360
And he's got skinheads.

1753
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,360
He's got this and that.

1754
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,360
He's got democratic populists.

1755
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,360
Oh, I give up.

1756
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,360
Every time I ask a question, you kind of go on to a...

1757
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,360
No, I'm telling you what the truth is.

1758
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,360
No, but I asked a simple question, you won't answer it.

1759
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,360
I'm answering it.

1760
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,360
Do you think what's in this paper is the truth?

1761
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,360
What this paper is...

1762
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,360
You're not...

1763
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,360
Just please give me...

1764
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,360
What this paper is, is...

1765
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,360
Just say no.

1766
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,360
Some very hardcore opinions.

1767
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,360
Why don't you just say no?

1768
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,360
Because that would not be the truth.

1769
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,360
Is it wrong or right?

1770
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:49,360
Does this paper tell the truth or is it a pack of racist lies?

1771
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:57,360
The paper tells the truth and it tells the truth in a way that appeals to a certain dimension of his readership.

1772
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,360
You think this tells the truth?

1773
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,360
You really think this tells the truth?

1774
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,360
Oh, Tom Metzger always tells the truth.

1775
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,360
Ah...

1776
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,360
So?

1777
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,360
I was heading back to central California to see April and the twins.

1778
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:33,360
I'd heard that April had booked a studio for Lamb and Lynx to record the first few tracks of their debut album to be titled Fragment of the Future.

1779
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,360
Can you do something faster?

1780
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,360
This would be my last day among the Nazis and a final chance to challenge April on her indoctrination of her two daughters.

1781
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,360
My stickers keep on sliding.

1782
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,360
My stickers keep on sliding.

1783
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,360
My stickers keep on sliding.

1784
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,360
Would you like to be skinheads when you grow up?

1785
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,360
No.

1786
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,360
Why not?

1787
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,360
Because with the skinheads you have to shave your head a real weird way.

1788
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:53,360
I'm keeping my head wrong.

1789
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:54,360
I'm not skinheads, it's skinheads.

1790
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,360
No.

1791
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,360
Why not?

1792
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:21,360
I'm keeping my head wrong.

1793
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,360
Would you like to go out with skinheads when you're older and you're younger?

1794
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,800
Skinheads, when you're older and you're ready to start seeing boys?

1795
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:28,800
Yes, sure.

1796
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,440
Would you?

1797
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,160
Yes.

1798
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:32,680
Why?

1799
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:33,860
Because.

1800
01:09:35,260 --> 01:09:35,780
I would.

1801
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:36,860
It's a good walk.

1802
01:09:36,860 --> 01:09:37,620
They're very special people.

1803
01:09:39,860 --> 01:09:42,180
What did you say, Lynx?

1804
01:09:42,340 --> 01:09:44,240
They're very special people.

1805
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,300
They're important people.

1806
01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:46,980
Yeah, with Lynx, he's violin.

1807
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:48,760
Why are they important?

1808
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,800
Because they're very dedicated to what they believe in.

1809
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,880
Would you mind that, April?

1810
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:57,960
Would you be cool with that?

1811
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,360
What, with him dating a skinhead?

1812
01:10:00,580 --> 01:10:01,800
Yeah, and maybe getting married.

1813
01:10:02,460 --> 01:10:09,740
Yeah, if he was a good hard worker and he wasn't spending his time boozing it up and causing trouble.

1814
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:15,740
I don't know many very well, but they seem kind of antisocial, some of them.

1815
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:19,720
Well, see, to me, they're not.

1816
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:26,060
To me and the girls, they're always just so protective and polite, ultra, ultra polite to us everywhere we go.

1817
01:10:26,060 --> 01:10:32,480
You know, whenever we go to concerts or meetings or anything, they're always just bend over backwards to take care of us.

1818
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,360
To me, they seem kind of angry and sociopathic.

1819
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:41,460
They just don't seem that way to me.

1820
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:46,960
I mean, when you see them, maybe it's because you're just so freaked out when you see people salute.

1821
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:48,420
Maybe that's why.

1822
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,040
Maybe I'm just not meeting any of the really good ones.

1823
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:51,840
Maybe.

1824
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,080
The marriage material.

1825
01:10:54,220 --> 01:10:56,960
Hate for hate and Ruth for Ruth.

1826
01:10:57,420 --> 01:10:59,660
Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.

1827
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,140
Scorn for scorn and smile for smile.

1828
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:06,080
Love for love and guile for guile.

1829
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,840
War for war and woe for woe.

1830
01:11:09,340 --> 01:11:11,760
Blood for blood and blow for blow.

1831
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,420
Elizabeth, you love me.

1832
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:19,280
Cool.

1833
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:25,720
So do you think you'll go to school one day?

1834
01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:29,260
Maybe next year when we're ready.

1835
01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:31,460
Mom says in a year or two.

1836
01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:33,620
Maybe.

1837
01:11:33,940 --> 01:11:35,400
Would you like to?

1838
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:36,700
Yeah.

1839
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,720
It'd be okay.

1840
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,500
I think it'd be good.

1841
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:49,060
And do you know why she doesn't want you to go to school now?

1842
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:51,120
Um, yeah.

1843
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:56,640
One of the things is because we're having a little bit of money problems.

1844
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,500
And we need new clothes, like school clothes.

1845
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,300
I didn't realize you have to wear special clothes for school.

1846
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:12,300
I thought your mom didn't want you going to school at the moment because she disagreed with what they were teaching in school.

1847
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:13,240
Also that.

1848
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,420
But she wants us to go to high school.

1849
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,420
But we may not go.

1850
01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:27,640
Why would you like to go to school?

1851
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:29,400
What is it about school that you would like?

1852
01:12:29,980 --> 01:12:32,060
Because we would get, you know, a lot of friends.

1853
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,700
It's kind of boring just sitting home all day.

1854
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,080
And all your friends are at school.

1855
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,920
And you've got to wait for them.

1856
01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:45,420
Wait until they get home.

1857
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,740
It's new, dudes.

1858
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:54,600
Hi.

1859
01:12:56,380 --> 01:12:58,760
So this is not the way you treat a book.

1860
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,400
Especially when it's nice as this.

1861
01:13:01,540 --> 01:13:01,800
No.

1862
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:03,640
It's new, sis.

1863
01:13:03,820 --> 01:13:07,720
Back at the house, and Lamb and Lynx were due to go to a school carnival with some friends.

1864
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:16,660
April had told me that Lamb and Lynx's friends don't know that they're being raised as racists.

1865
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,420
And I wondered how leading this double life would affect them in the long term.

1866
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,820
I knew it was hopeless, but I thought I'd try and talk to April.

1867
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,080
Okay, you guys are going now?

1868
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:28,760
Are you going?

1869
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:30,580
Yes.

1870
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,940
It's been a pleasure working with you.

1871
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:37,880
Don't film it out.

1872
01:13:38,140 --> 01:13:39,380
Have a nice time at the carnival.

1873
01:13:40,080 --> 01:14:02,640
No, no, no, no, no, I don't like the milk in it.

1874
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:15,780
Have you thought about the implications of indoctrinating Lynx and Lamb in this way?

1875
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:16,900
Of course I have.

1876
01:14:17,380 --> 01:14:22,660
And have you had second thoughts or misgivings of any kind?

1877
01:14:22,660 --> 01:14:26,680
I don't want to teach them to be politically correct just because that's the easy way out.

1878
01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:27,260
I don't want to tell them...

1879
01:14:27,260 --> 01:14:28,160
I understand that.

1880
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,020
Because it's not the easy way.

1881
01:14:30,140 --> 01:14:31,380
This is not the easy way.

1882
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:32,660
It's not a choice between...

1883
01:14:32,660 --> 01:14:39,720
I mean, the choice you face is really, is to bring them up, judging people fairly or not.

1884
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,240
That's kind of, I think, what you want to think about.

1885
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,900
I don't understand how I'm not doing that.

1886
01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:49,700
You're making...

1887
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:50,580
I think a person...

1888
01:14:50,580 --> 01:14:52,580
I mean, far be it for me, I don't have kids, so I don't know...

1889
01:14:52,580 --> 01:14:58,840
The person who tells their children that all people are created equal and that men and women

1890
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,800
are equal, in my mind, they're lying to their children.

1891
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,220
They're just, they're blatantly lying to their child.

1892
01:15:05,020 --> 01:15:08,060
Do you realize what a handicap that will be for them in life?

1893
01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:10,600
No, it won't be.

1894
01:15:11,140 --> 01:15:12,480
That they're going through...

1895
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:20,520
They'll be going through life with this dual mindset, which is, you know, what their mum has told them...

1896
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,460
They shouldn't have to go through...

1897
01:15:22,460 --> 01:15:24,080
How normal people conduct themselves in the world.

1898
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,480
They shouldn't have to go through...

1899
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:32,540
Well, see, but I believe that we're normal and that we're correct and that other people are distorted.

1900
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:40,780
So, yes, I understand that I'm raising my children in a perverted world, in a perverted, multiculturalist world.

1901
01:15:40,780 --> 01:15:41,920
I'm teaching...

1902
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:47,600
I have to teach my children the truth, despite the fact that that's a dangerous thing to be teaching them.

1903
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:56,740
I'm doing something that is very dangerous, but I can't, could not live with myself if I were to tell them anything different, because it would be a lie.

1904
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:07,180
I think what it's about, really, is judging people based on who they are, not your prejudice about who they are.

1905
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,900
Kind of giving people a chance.

1906
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:10,780
I find other races annoying.

1907
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,320
They bother me.

1908
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:13,340
I find them annoying.

1909
01:16:13,340 --> 01:16:16,500
I don't like, I don't like their chattering in other languages.

1910
01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:20,560
I don't like to look the way they look, you know.

1911
01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:27,400
I mean, 99% of them, I just find the way that they look just really, they're just not pretty.

1912
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,520
They're not, they're not attractive to me.

1913
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,080
I don't want to be around them.

1914
01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:32,600
I don't like the way that they act.

1915
01:16:32,660 --> 01:16:34,540
I don't like the way they allow their children to behave.

1916
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,280
I don't like the way they, they deal with situations.

1917
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:42,440
I don't like the fact that they seem to just make everything messy and dirty wherever they are.

1918
01:16:42,620 --> 01:16:43,500
I don't like that.

1919
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,600
I don't like to be around them.

1920
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,100
I want to be around all white people.

1921
01:16:46,540 --> 01:16:48,500
But it's like, I feel like I can't be that.

1922
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:54,800
I mean, I'm not being facetious, but like, I'm not being facetious, but have you ever thought about getting kind of therapy or something like that?

1923
01:16:55,140 --> 01:16:58,280
Because what you have is like, almost like a pathological...

1924
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:04,400
Have you ever thought about getting therapy and maybe realizing how brainwashed you are by multiculturalism?

1925
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:10,240
I feel like I'm pretty well connected to reality.

1926
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,740
Well, see, I feel that I am, too.

1927
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,900
But you're outvoted.

1928
01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:18,820
Huh?

1929
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,540
But basically, you're outvoted.

1930
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,360
What, here?

1931
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,000
In civilized thought, yeah, basically.

1932
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:51,920
My journey through the world of Nazis had reached a frustrating conclusion, with an argument in a kitchen with a mother of two.

1933
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,600
Well, Louis, it was nice meeting you.

1934
01:17:53,600 --> 01:18:00,620
I seem to have made no impact on April during my time with her, and I had to keep reminding myself just how anomalous her beliefs actually are.

1935
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:07,580
Somehow it wasn't much consolation when the ones who would pay the consequences were her children, Lamb and Lynx.

1936
01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:09,340
See you later.

1937
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:09,820
Bye.

1938
01:18:09,820 --> 01:18:09,880
Bye.

1939
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:23,040
Did I ever tell you the thing about, um, about Denzel Washington?

1940
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:24,060
What about?

1941
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,860
That Tom said.

1942
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:27,100
What did he say about him?

1943
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,820
He said that, um, he thinks he's better looking than Denzel Washington.

1944
01:18:33,220 --> 01:18:34,160
I think Tom is, too.

1945
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,060
As a matter of fact, we're going to make a mug out of Tom's head.

1946
01:18:37,060 --> 01:18:41,500
I want to trademark his head, that, you know, that beautiful head.

1947
01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:43,660
Like what you would drink out of here?

1948
01:18:45,180 --> 01:18:46,100
Uh, yeah.

1949
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:51,500
You wouldn't enjoy a drink out of that.

1950
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:53,660
I sure would.

1951
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:54,720
Oh, yeah, man.

1952
01:18:54,740 --> 01:18:55,560
People like mugs.

1953
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,100
Oh, yeah, they love mugs.

1954
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,020
And his head would make a good mug.

1955
01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,340
Oh, yeah.

1956
01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:02,600
Oh, Louis.

1957
01:19:07,060 --> 01:19:07,440
Oh, yeah.

1958
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:09,720
Oh, yeah.

1959
01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:10,460
Oh, yeah.

1960
01:19:11,740 --> 01:19:12,700
Oh, yeah.

1961
01:19:12,980 --> 01:19:13,940
Oh, yeah.

1962
01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:15,960
Oh, yeah.

1963
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:16,760
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

1964
01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:17,460
Oh, yeah, it's good.

1965
01:19:17,620 --> 01:19:19,180
I don't know, Oh, yeah, that's all.

1966
01:19:19,180 --> 01:19:20,120
Oh, yeah.

1967
01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:20,740
Oh, yeah.

1968
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,040
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1969
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,420
Oh, yeah.

1970
01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:23,740
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1971
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:24,840
Oh, yeah.

1972
01:19:25,060 --> 01:19:26,160
Oh, yeah.

1973
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:26,800
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1974
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:26,940
Oh, yeah.

1975
01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:28,080
Oh, yeah.

1976
01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:28,900
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1977
01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:31,160
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1978
01:19:31,180 --> 01:19:31,800
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1979
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:33,920
Oh, yeah, 28.

1980
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:34,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.