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Now, I'm not here very long.

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What about if I went straight for trying to be a guru?

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Why?

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It just seems like it, you know, aimed for the top.

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Possible?

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Not today. Not for the next few days.

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But there's a chance.

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India, land of spirituality.

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I was following in the footsteps of the thousands of Westerners

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who come east in search of enlightenment,

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wondering if I too could find the meaning of life.

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My first contact lives in Goa.

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At one time he was a professor of psychology named Dr. Joseph E. Vidmar.

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Now he practices astrology and calls himself Deepak,

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and he offered to be my spiritual guide.

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This is it?

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This is it. We made it to Anjuna Flea Market.

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World famous.

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You can buy everything here but your soul.

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Actually, it's my soul I'm interested in.

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Well, let me ask you something, Larry.

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Yeah.

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Why do you want to get enlightened?

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Why are you even looking?

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It's supposed to be a good thing, isn't it?

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For what? Good for what?

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It's not good for your bank account.

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Isn't it?

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No.

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I don't know.

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Enlightenment is expensive.

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You sacrifice all your material life for this.

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Yeah.

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So what are people coming to India for then?

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Enlightenment.

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But you need to know what it is you really want.

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Why aren't you happy where you're at?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know what I want.

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Can you tell me?

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Can I tell you what you want?

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I wouldn't even if I knew.

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Do you know?

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No.

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The trick is accepting but not wanting.

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You see, every seed has a feeling of the tree it will become.

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And if you don't become that tree, you've never lived.

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Come on.

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Come on.

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If you had to identify the most important possessions you have, what would they be?

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It would be the computer.

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The computer?

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Why?

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Because I need that to do my work.

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Is this your TV set?

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No, no.

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That came with the room and I hate to turn the thing on.

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I've got books and papers.

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Books, papers, underpants?

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Underpants.

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That's it.

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For a man at 57, it's not a lot of stuff.

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It's not a two-garage house with wife, kids.

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You know what I mean?

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I had that.

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And what happened?

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It didn't make me happy.

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Yeah.

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And are you happy now?

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I'm happier.

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I'm more alive.

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The way I look at it, my life isn't by any means perfect, but I'm not in misery either.

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I'm not having a nervous breakdown.

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So, I wonder if there's not enough to motivate me to make the journey.

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You got it.

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There's not enough to motivate you.

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If you are halfway comfortable whatsoever, it is like pulling your feet out of mud to

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leave that situation and try this situation.

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Why should you try?

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Yeah, why should I try?

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Why should you try?

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Why should you try?

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Why should I try?

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There's no reason.

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There's no reason.

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I fully recommend that you do not try.

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Make the show and then get back home and watch the telly.

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Go under anesthesia like everybody else.

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And then you won't be in the situation of a handful of possessions being 57 years old.

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You'll be nice, comfortable, powerful, secure, and stupid.

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This is the well-known Chid Vilas.

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How do you do?

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Namaste.

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Baba.

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Nice to meet you.

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I'm Louis.

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What's the plan?

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We go there.

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That's the plan.

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We go there.

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Deepak's plan for ridding me of my stupidity involved taking me to the beach for a form of

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meditation known as channeling delight.

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Deepak and I were preparing to receive the energy of the cosmos transmitted through the

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hands of the Italian spiritual healer Chid Vilas.

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Begin to sway.

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Imagine it to be a tree in the wind.

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Let the energy into your body.

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And the wind will come and transmit energy to your energy body center.

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Apparently now full of energy, I was allowed to ask a question of the cosmos mediated through

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Chid Vilas special helper.

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I'm hoping to find out a little bit about spirituality.

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Can you give me any advice on where I should go and how I should search?

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India is a very magical place for spirituality.

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Just allow yourself to be carried by a flow and you will find what you have been looking

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for.

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It is yourself.

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Oh, I've got such long legs.

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It's because it takes a while to get used to sitting like that.

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Yeah, my hips.

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I felt a little bit silly in the session just now.

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Yeah?

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I was just like when I was waving, you know, with the tree part.

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You kept hitting and I kept disturbing you.

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I kept hitting a little lantern that was disturbing me and also it was really like my arms were getting

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so tired.

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My unconscious created that obstacle to disturb you so that you would not be affected.

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That's okay.

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It's just crazy stuff compared to where you come from.

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It's okay that you go woo about this stuff, you know.

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But you're surrounded by friends.

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You have support.

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It's just, okay, go with it.

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If it's dangerous for you, I'll pull you out.

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One day into my journey and the cosmos had spoken.

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What I was looking for was my own self.

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If only I knew where to find it.

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Louis, wake up and shine.

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Wake up feeling fine.

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Coffee.

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Just wake up without your mind.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Day two and Deepak was determined to deepen my understanding.

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Is this Osho?

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This is Osho.

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And so he, is this your guru?

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Does that come off?

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Even though he's dead now, he's been dead for 10 years.

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He looks a little bit like a sort of glamour puss.

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To me, that's like, oh, rock star.

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You know, like I'm going to have a picture of Sting on my wall.

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Uh-huh.

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Well, you know, if you met this guy, his presence is so overwhelming that you wouldn't object.

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Did he have a special technique?

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He came up with a particular meditation.

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And it's basically to get the madness in your system up and out.

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You do that for 12 minutes.

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Total.

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Come on.

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Push it.

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Kick it.

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Come on.

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I'm twice your age.

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I can do better than that.

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I hate this.

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Right.

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It's just practice.

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You've never practiced breath before.

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Use your arms.

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Force your lungs.

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Stop a minute.

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That's the first part.

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It's really making me dizzy.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Now, that part is to get you out of your mind and to free up your emotions, all right?

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Because here's the second part.

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I'll do the first part, then switch over into the second.

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Ah!

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Ah!

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Ding!

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Third part.

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Hoo!

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Hoo!

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Hoo!

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Hoo!

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Hoo!

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I can't do that one anymore.

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What about the second one?

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The second one is catharsis.

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You're throwing out all your negativity, all your anger.

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Are you okay?

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Yeah, I'm okay.

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I haven't done this for a while.

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So what can I do?

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How do I do that one?

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You just start screaming.

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What the breathing does is break your normal fixed face.

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It gets you in contact with your emotions and feelings.

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Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh!

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Hoo!

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Hoo!

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Hoo!

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Come back!

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Oh, my mic's gone.

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The trick with the who is keeping your arms up and when you come down, you're hitting

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your heel because that's where your sex centre is.

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If you want to get a woman turned on, have her jump on her heels.

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And this is where the experience of yourself comes.

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Try to find the gap between the thoughts

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where there's nothing

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but yourself.

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And then you dance.

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Ta-da, ta-da.

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Like that.

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And that's it.

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That's the meditation.

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Are you still doing it?

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No.

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How?

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So even this little bit, this little demonstration,

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I see your energy change.

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You're more awake, you're more powerful.

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I don't think I could do that for an hour.

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It's a trip.

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I can't do the jumping part anymore.

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My body's getting too old.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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But for old people, there's a trick.

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We don't have to jump so much, you know?

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We can just stand flat-footed and hit our heels.

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Yeah, my heel.

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That's a bit.

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Let's go down here.

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A little bit more in the shade.

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I was thinking about the guru thing.

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You know, if I wanted to find a guru, are there many gurus around?

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You can't swing a dead dog without hitting a guru in this country.

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Really?

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In other words, they're all over.

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Your problem's going to be which one is for you.

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And what is the status of a guru in, I mean, are they gods?

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Are they humans?

282
00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,160
Are they somewhere in between?

283
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Can they do miracles?

284
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Suspend physical laws of nature?

285
00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,160
I don't think so.

286
00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,160
No?

287
00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,160
The more you find a guru that does miracles, the more you should stay away.

288
00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,160
Yeah.

289
00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,160
I think I might be looking for miracles.

290
00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,160
I mean, because that would blow my mind if I saw that.

291
00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,160
Well, you know, we're looking for something special to tell us that this is something special.

292
00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,160
Yeah.

293
00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,160
All you need to know is it's time to go on the journey.

294
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If you really connect with yourself inside, you will connect with joy and bliss.

295
00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:55,160
And the incredible experience of being fully alive instead of some TV-drugged zombie.

296
00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,160
Yeah, is that what I am, basically?

297
00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,160
So far.

298
00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,160
A TV-drugged zombie?

299
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,160
Yeah.

300
00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,160
Hey, thanks a lot, man.

301
00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,160
Well, sorry, man, but a handshake's not enough.

302
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,160
Over here we hug.

303
00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,160
Hugs, not drugs.

304
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,160
Yeah.

305
00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,160
Take care, Larry.

306
00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,160
Yeah.

307
00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,160
Take care of yourself.

308
00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,160
Thanks a lot.

309
00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,160
Thank you, man.

310
00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,160
I feel really energised.

311
00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,160
What empowers you is right.

312
00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,160
Take care, huh?

313
00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,160
Gonna miss that guy.

314
00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:34,160
It was time for this TV-drugged zombie to hit the road in search of myself and a guru

315
00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,160
to help me find me.

316
00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,160
Everywhere I looked there were adverts for a guru called Amar, whose name means mother.

317
00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,160
Apparently, she had shown a glimpse of enlightenment to hundreds of thousands of people, through

318
00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,160
nothing more than taking them in her arms and giving them a holy hug.

319
00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,160
She'd even hugged Sting.

320
00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,160
I decided to join her band of disciples.

321
00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:04,160
My contact, an American who'd followed her for the last 12 years, Ramanan.

322
00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,160
Thanks a lot.

323
00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,160
Cheers.

324
00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,160
Hi.

325
00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,160
Hi.

326
00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,160
Do you know someone called Ramana?

327
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,160
No.

328
00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,160
Oh.

329
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,160
How are you?

330
00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,160
Oh.

331
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,160
Adityan is in silence today.

332
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,160
Oh, he's a silent being today.

333
00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,160
He's taking a vow of silence.

334
00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,160
Oh.

335
00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,160
Yes.

336
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,160
Ramana's here.

337
00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,160
Okay, sorry about that.

338
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,160
I made a bit of a faux pas.

339
00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,160
I didn't realise you've taken a vow of silence today.

340
00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,160
Are you Ramana?

341
00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,160
Yes, I am.

342
00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,160
How are you doing?

343
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,160
Good.

344
00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,160
Fine, how are you?

345
00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,160
I don't think English, but...

346
00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,160
No, I think he's from Texas or something.

347
00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,160
Really?

348
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,160
Some form of English.

349
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,160
Can we tickle him?

350
00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,160
I think he's tickled enough.

351
00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,160
It goes in the back, I think.

352
00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:53,160
Ramana and his 400 fellow disciples were loading up for the next leg of a gruelling pilgrimage.

353
00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,160
They were taking Ammar and her hug all over India.

354
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:06,160
Whenever we start any trip, we sing the 108 names of our guru.

355
00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:11,160
Basically, it describes the different great qualities that our teacher has.

356
00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,160
Okay.

357
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,160
Om anthar mukha svabhava ye namaha.

358
00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,160
Om tyaktatik vastu kaladi sarvabh chera rasha ye namaha.

359
00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,160
Om karunya kulachitsa ye namaha.

360
00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:27,160
Om premamritanandamaya nityam namo namaha.

361
00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,160
How was that?

362
00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,160
I liked it.

363
00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:38,160
By chanting a hundred names, it's almost as though Ammar is like a god.

364
00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:46,160
If there is the possibility of a god on earth, I think she's the closest thing that we could have to god on earth.

365
00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,160
I would say in the same state and level as Jesus.

366
00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,160
Wow.

367
00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,160
That's a pretty high recommendation.

368
00:15:53,160 --> 00:16:03,160
I mean, I'm not actually a Christian or anything, but I just imagine if you met Jesus, you would almost, like, be knocked off your feet.

369
00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:08,160
Ammichi certainly has knocked me off my feet, and I think most of these people would say the same.

370
00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,160
Otherwise, you know, what are they doing in this bus?

371
00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,160
Wow.

372
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,160
They're starting the thousand names of the Divine Mother.

373
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,160
I thought we just did...

374
00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,160
We did the 108 names of Ammichi.

375
00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,160
We did the 108 names of Ammichi.

376
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,160
She's got a thousand names?

377
00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,160
How long does it take to do the thousand names?

378
00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,160
An hour.

379
00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,160
It's a main practice around Ammichi.

380
00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,160
How far are they?

381
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,160
They're on name 43.

382
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:35,160
They got all the rest to go.

383
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:49,160
957 names later, the convoy arrived at their next lodgings, and we set about fixing up food and bedding for the next few days.

384
00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,160
A little bit more, please.

385
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:56,160
I still wasn't sure if the best way to find myself was through throwing my lot in with the Ammar Brigade.

386
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,160
Are you enlightened?

387
00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,160
Do you know if you are?

388
00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,160
No, I'm definitely not enlightened.

389
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,160
You're not?

390
00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,160
Really?

391
00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,160
How do you know?

392
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,160
Because I still have anger, hatred, greed, lust.

393
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,160
Enlightenment is when the mind is completely clear and calm and quiet with no thought, really.

394
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,160
Now, why is that a good thing?

395
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:19,160
It takes you to a state beyond what we know as good and bad, happy, sad.

396
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,160
Basically, they say you even conquer death.

397
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,160
Really?

398
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,160
You can emerge into the cosmic mind, the cosmic, the supreme being, God, whatever you want to call it.

399
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,160
But once you're enlightened, it's plain sailing from there on.

400
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,160
Pretty good, yeah.

401
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,160
That's what they say.

402
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,160
Yeah.

403
00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,160
I'm not there, so I don't know.

404
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,160
Yeah.

405
00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,160
Hoping to be, though.

406
00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,160
Hoping to be.

407
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,160
That's why I'm here.

408
00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,160
Yeah.

409
00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,160
What are you doing?

410
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,160
What are you doing, sir?

411
00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,160
I'm asking Mother to be with me.

412
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,160
Really?

413
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,160
Yes.

414
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,160
You're speaking, but you've got one of these badges on here.

415
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,160
Doesn't that mean you can't speak?

416
00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,160
This, if you look closely, says silence is bliss.

417
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:07,160
So it allows me to avoid unnecessary conversations.

418
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,160
Wow.

419
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,160
You're freaking me out.

420
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,160
Um, may I ask your name?

421
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,160
Anirudan.

422
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,160
Anirudan.

423
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,160
And what's your, um, what's your born name?

424
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,160
Courtney.

425
00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,160
Courtney.

426
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,160
Courtney.

427
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,160
Courtney.

428
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,160
I'm a little curious about what the living quarters are like here.

429
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,160
May I take a look at your room?

430
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,160
Yes.

431
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:38,160
Remanan had made it all sound quite straightforward, but now I was entering Courtney's world and

432
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,160
I didn't have a map.

433
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,160
Are we not disturbing these people?

434
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,160
Well, if you are, I guess that's just the way it's going to be.

435
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,160
So, um, which is your bit?

436
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,160
Right here.

437
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,160
Yeah.

438
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,160
Can you give us a little tour?

439
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,160
Well, this is it.

440
00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,160
I have a little altar to help me remember the divine.

441
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,160
Who's that on there?

442
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,160
That's Alma.

443
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,160
Let me ask you something.

444
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,160
What profession did you pursue when you were in the U.S.?

445
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,160
What?

446
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,160
It's the past.

447
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,160
It just makes me laugh.

448
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,160
What?

449
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,160
Why did the past make you laugh?

450
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,160
It's just a story.

451
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,160
It's very insignificant.

452
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,160
It's very shallow.

453
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,160
Isn't your past who you are?

454
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,160
Not this child's past.

455
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,160
The past is a story.

456
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,160
It's like a book.

457
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,160
Am I a book?

458
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,160
You have to look within.

459
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,160
When you speak, you have quite a solemn way of speaking.

460
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,160
Because I don't feel like we're talking like human beings in a way.

461
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,160
I offered myself up to the Lord.

462
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,160
I want to...

463
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,160
If this child is to be of any service, it's to be an instrument.

464
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,160
If the other was to show up, I would ask forgiveness.

465
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,160
Because it would be the ego.

466
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,160
No, but we like ego.

467
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,160
You do.

468
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,160
Yeah.

469
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,160
I used to, yes.

470
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,160
I used to very much...

471
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,160
It becomes humanizing.

472
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,160
You know, we're all...

473
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,160
You know, we're all basically...

474
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,160
We've all got ego, haven't we?

475
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,160
Really.

476
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,160
Yeah, but are you happy?

477
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,160
For a short period of time?

478
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,160
Yeah, more or less.

479
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,160
Yes, right.

480
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,160
There you go.

481
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,160
What?

482
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,160
I'm probably as happy as you are, roughly.

483
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,160
I don't say I'd be any more happy.

484
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:23,160
The depth of the ecstasy of losing the self is so deep that once you taste it, all other pleasures are insignificant.

485
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,160
Can we talk to Courtney Cooper now?

486
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,160
I let Courtney Cooper die.

487
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,160
What?

488
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,160
What are you doing?

489
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,160
I'm asking Mother to make sure that Courtney Cooper stays dead.

490
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,160
Why?

491
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,160
I'm getting to Courtney now.

492
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,160
I'm reaching Courtney.

493
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,160
No, this is Courtney Cooper now.

494
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,160
This is the Courtney Cooper of today.

495
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,160
And for me to utter much more would be ignorance.

496
00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:20,160
Oh, it's too weird.

497
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,160
Courtney left me feeling totally perplexed.

498
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,160
I guess I was still too attached to my own ego.

499
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,160
It would be a few days before the stage was set for the next audience with Ammar.

500
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,160
I was getting the sense that maybe I'd gone too deep too soon.

501
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,160
And so I thought I'd try something more familiar.

502
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:50,160
I headed off to the holy city of Mayapur on the banks of the Ganges, headquarters of the Hare Krishna movement.

503
00:21:53,160 --> 00:22:04,160
I'd often seen shaven headed Hare Krishna devotees dancing in London's West End and wondered what they were doing.

504
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,160
Now it was time to find out.

505
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,160
My contact was a man named Harisori, a disciple for the last 30 years.

506
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,160
Harisori?

507
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,160
How are you?

508
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,160
Louis Theroux.

509
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,160
How do you do?

510
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,160
How do you do?

511
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,160
How do you do?

512
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,160
Good to meet you.

513
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,160
You speak English.

514
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,160
I do, yes.

515
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,160
I'm surprised.

516
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,160
Yeah, where are you from?

517
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,160
A little.

518
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,160
I'm originally from England, Scunthorpe.

519
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,160
Really?

520
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,160
Yeah.

521
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,160
So what's the plan?

522
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,160
You want to go on a tour?

523
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,160
Yeah.

524
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,160
Okay.

525
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,160
Let's do it.

526
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,160
Who's that guy?

527
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,160
This is Srila Prabhupada.

528
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,160
He was the founder of the Hare Krishna movement.

529
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,160
Nice guy.

530
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,160
He was a wonderful person.

531
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,160
Was he a guru?

532
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,160
Yeah.

533
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:49,160
Guru means a person that knows God and can present who God is to a disciple.

534
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,160
And perform miracles?

535
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:58,160
Well, Prabhupada would sometimes point to us and he would say, I've transformed them

536
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,160
from meat eaters, sense enjoyers, drunkards, into saintly persons.

537
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,160
So he said, that's the only miracle that I can perform.

538
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,160
Did you say sense enjoyers?

539
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,160
Yeah.

540
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,160
Yeah.

541
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,160
That doesn't sound like a bad thing to me, to enjoy your senses.

542
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,160
Well, enjoyment is good.

543
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,160
Yeah.

544
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,160
But it depends on how you get it.

545
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,160
Yeah.

546
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,160
But through the senses.

547
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,160
Yeah.

548
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,160
Well, most people think that sense enjoyment is the ultimate aim and, you know, goal in

549
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,160
life.

550
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,160
Yeah.

551
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,160
If you get sex or you get drunk or, you know, whatever.

552
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,160
Have some delicious food.

553
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,160
It seems, you know, that that's the peak.

554
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,160
But it actually is very limited and it's very temporary.

555
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Yeah.

556
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,160
Because you're actually a soul and not the body.

557
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,160
For a Hare Krishna, the road to enlightenment is simple.

558
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,160
You chant and you dance.

559
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,160
It was worth a shot.

560
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,160
Shall we get you dressed up?

561
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,160
Yeah, yeah.

562
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,160
So what is the plan?

563
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,160
Why is it better that I wear this than what I'm wearing now?

564
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,160
Well, it will help you to get more into the mood of what it's like to be a devotee.

565
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,160
Yeah.

566
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,160
I can keep my underwear on though.

567
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,160
Yeah, yeah.

568
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,160
Now the real experience for it being a devotee is if you chant.

569
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,160
Do some chanting?

570
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,160
Yeah.

571
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,160
Let's do it.

572
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,160
The real essence.

573
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,160
Yeah, that's the core of it.

574
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,160
Feeling good.

575
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,160
Looking good.

576
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,160
Should my leg be coming out like that?

577
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,160
Um, you can move it further over.

578
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,160
That slip of paper I gave you.

579
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,160
Yeah.

580
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,160
That's got the Hare Krishna mantra on it.

581
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,160
That will help you to chant.

582
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,160
Should I kneel down as well?

583
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,160
Yeah, please.

584
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,160
That's good.

585
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,160
That's good.

586
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,160
Looking good.

587
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,160
Looking good.

588
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Should my leg be coming out like that?

589
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,160
Um, you can move it further over.

590
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,160
there as well.

591
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,160
Yes.

592
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,160
It's ti-même, sir.

593
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,160
It's a bitter响 sentence.

594
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,160
You can be building a whole new language and prayer by fighting that are stupid.

595
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,640
There's a super powerful light that's there, not that that's at the distance, although

596
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,640
not that's at the height of the heart.

597
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,680
Up and down.

598
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,600
Not that look Nice.

599
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,600
It does.

600
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,600
Ooh, rhythm was it Monday.

601
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,920
To me, Tim, he's been League of Legends, Wartery of Legends.

602
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,920
Ah, there it's a high telephoneCreate.

603
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,780
Spirit, Glaude.

604
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:50,340
Hi.

605
00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:56,120
FedEx, одespeline O Tesla.

606
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:56,280
Bye.

607
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:09,800
It's not what I call cat cheese.

608
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,840
I don't know if I feel spiritually enhanced.

609
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,120
Well, it's a thing that comes gradually.

610
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,920
I mean, it's not like something that strikes you and knocks you down dead.

611
00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:23,140
Maybe some people it does.

612
00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:28,400
There's an example that's given that just as a fog is dissipated by the sunlight,

613
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,400
when you chant Hare Krishna, then it dissipates all your ignorance just gradually,

614
00:25:33,540 --> 00:25:36,280
like a cloud evaporates under the sunshine.

615
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:37,780
It takes a little time.

616
00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:39,680
Yeah, it takes a bit longer than that, I suppose.

617
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,600
I needed a change of approach.

618
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,920
I decided to go straight to the top.

619
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,500
It was time for my first encounter with a flesh-and-blood, real-life guru.

620
00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:55,720
I'm looking for the lotus building.

621
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,120
This lotus is right.

622
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,080
This is a dike.

623
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,180
This way.

624
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,820
Since the death of Prabhupada 23 years ago,

625
00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:06,820
his mission has been taken up by a team of 80 new gurus worldwide.

626
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:13,600
I was off to see if guru Jayataka Swami might be the man to set me on the path to self-knowledge.

627
00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:15,660
Hi, Krishna.

628
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,840
All right?

629
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,580
What's your name?

630
00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:18,280
I'm Louie.

631
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,000
Louie.

632
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Welcome.

633
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,080
How are you doing?

634
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:21,600
Have a seat.

635
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Okay.

636
00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:27,500
How is it that Hare Krishna has attracted so many cosmopolitan followers, not just Indians?

637
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,620
Everybody has the same spiritual needs.

638
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:33,480
They want to be closer to God.

639
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,860
They want to know what is the purpose of life.

640
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,660
And the answer comes from an Indian tradition.

641
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:42,400
You see, truth is not a monopoly on anybody.

642
00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:43,920
You sound like you might be American.

643
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,660
I was born in America, and I've been living here for 30 years.

644
00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:50,060
Really?

645
00:26:50,380 --> 00:26:51,680
What name did you grow up under?

646
00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:55,120
Well, I grew up under the name Gordon.

647
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:56,040
Yeah.

648
00:26:56,420 --> 00:27:01,480
So am I right in thinking the chief practice of Hare Krishna people is chanting the Hare Krishna?

649
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,800
That's the essence of it.

650
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,840
In fact, I even thought, was this gentleman, were you chanting it just now, under your breath?

651
00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:08,060
They're constantly chanting.

652
00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:08,540
Constantly?

653
00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:09,060
Constantly.

654
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:09,140
Constantly.

655
00:27:09,380 --> 00:27:10,940
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna.

656
00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:14,720
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Hare Hare.

657
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280
And now, why are they clustering around you right now?

658
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:23,980
They're like disciples and devotees who, if they get the opportunity to follow me around,

659
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,560
they'll do it.

660
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Really?

661
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:25,500
Why?

662
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,100
Ask them.

663
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,600
I don't know.

664
00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:31,500
The spiritual master gets you close to God.

665
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,960
And by his association, you know, we become happy.

666
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,400
We feel happy when we're with him.

667
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:37,480
How does that make you feel?

668
00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:39,120
There's no more private life.

669
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:43,640
My life, I just give to helping people become God-pensants.

670
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,860
Why is this gentleman walking around carrying a tape recorder?

671
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:51,020
Because the spiritual master's sound vibration is transcendental.

672
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,080
So the sound vibration of the spiritual master is very important for devotees.

673
00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:58,980
How about that?

674
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:01,640
Excellent.

675
00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:04,600
I'd like to show you the campus over here.

676
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,300
Are they bowing to me or to you?

677
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,100
No, I'm just kidding.

678
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,620
Now, what happened then?

679
00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:22,160
You see, he wanted to touch my feet, but actually when people touch your feet,

680
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,720
they're touching because they want to get like a blessing.

681
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,320
Yeah.

682
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,360
But then it also puts their vibrations on the person.

683
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600
So generally, it's not recommended we let people touch our feet.

684
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,320
Really?

685
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,800
What, it puts their vibration on you?

686
00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:35,380
Is that bad?

687
00:28:35,860 --> 00:28:37,880
Well, we get overloaded after a certain point.

688
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:38,280
Really?

689
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,300
How many vibrations can you take?

690
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:44,860
Also, it's quite embarrassing.

691
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:47,540
People touching your feet.

692
00:28:47,540 --> 00:28:48,080
Yeah.

693
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,100
Yeah.

694
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,820
I could get used to it.

695
00:28:50,820 --> 00:29:01,100
I could go over and see about feeding the hungry people.

696
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,100
How often do you have a feast like this?

697
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,100
Yeah.

698
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,100
Yeah.

699
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,100
Like that?

700
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,100
Yeah.

701
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,100
How many spoonfuls?

702
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,100
One, one, one.

703
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:09,100
Just on the side of the rice.

704
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,100
The secret is to teach the people with a lot of respect.

705
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:11,100
Yeah.

706
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,100
Yeah.

707
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,360
It must be great being used.

708
00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:19,320
How often do you have a feast like that?

709
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:31,380
How often do you have a feast like that?

710
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,140
Oh, a few times a year.

711
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Yeah, because you were saying about not having too much sensual gratification,

712
00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:40,040
but that feast was a feast of sensual gratification.

713
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,180
No, no, you see, we use our senses in the service of Krishna.

714
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:44,780
Right.

715
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Everything we do, we do it as an offering to God.

716
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,500
This is the sacred Ganges.

717
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:53,580
It's said to be liquid love of God.

718
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Really?

719
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:54,880
Yeah.

720
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,080
Is it all right?

721
00:29:56,460 --> 00:29:57,080
You test it?

722
00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:07,480
So by bathing in the Ganges, you can actually become more spiritual?

723
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:08,260
Definitely.

724
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:08,700
Definitely.

725
00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:11,180
And what about, can you take that home with you?

726
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,800
It's a permanent asset.

727
00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:14,340
It is?

728
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,120
Yes.

729
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,440
You have a good karma bank account and a bad karma bank account.

730
00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,080
So like you're coming here, bathing in the Ganges.

731
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:23,980
This is put a deposit in your spiritual bank account.

732
00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:25,140
That's a little contribution.

733
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,880
You'll take that with you.

734
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,840
What about if we chanted Hare Krishna right now while floating around in the Ganges,

735
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,920
the most sacred river?

736
00:30:32,140 --> 00:30:33,820
Then it will be even multiplied.

737
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:34,640
Should we do that?

738
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:35,180
Why not?

739
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:35,480
Yeah.

740
00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:36,180
Will you lead?

741
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:36,820
All right.

742
00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:53,180
And then, just as I was getting into the groove, disaster struck.

743
00:30:53,180 --> 00:30:56,160
Put down the windows.

744
00:30:56,420 --> 00:30:58,060
Why doesn't he move it?

745
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,100
Are we all right?

746
00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:06,120
Looks like he ran aground.

747
00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:10,140
Quick, let's keep chanting.

748
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:14,060
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare.

749
00:31:14,260 --> 00:31:18,420
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.

750
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna.

751
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,300
I think we're out of danger now.

752
00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:24,760
So your chanting took us out of danger.

753
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Thank you very much, Louis.

754
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,180
That might have been karma coming.

755
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:29,120
But was it coming for me or coming for you?

756
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,300
Well, when we're all together, it's a kind of collective karma.

757
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:40,240
There was a plane that crashed in New York and it split open and eight people were thrown out.

758
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:43,240
And they just landed on their feet and walked off unharmed.

759
00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:44,360
Everyone else was killed.

760
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,620
And the moral of that story is?

761
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:49,660
Those eight people had karma that wasn't their time to go.

762
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,060
Thanks so much for your time.

763
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Maybe I'll see you sometime when I stop in London.

764
00:31:58,500 --> 00:31:59,000
Please do.

765
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,880
I'd love to see you.

766
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,080
And please come back here and visit us again.

767
00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:03,720
I will.

768
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,780
With a little more time.

769
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,020
Yeah, with more time.

770
00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:06,880
Thanks again.

771
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,300
See you later, Maharaj.

772
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:13,620
I was beginning to wonder whether treating someone as a living god and hanging on their every word

773
00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:16,260
might not serve the teacher better than the disciple.

774
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,440
To settle the matter, I decided to search out a guru who was going all the way

775
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,760
and claiming miraculous powers.

776
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,460
Sri Ganapati is a third generation Indian Swami

777
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:34,580
with a catalogue of strange music videos proclaiming the powers of his unique spiritual melodies.

778
00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:40,300
I arrived at his huge complex to see if he could promise me a miracle.

779
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:48,460
I'd arranged to meet another guest, an American physicist who'd followed him for the last seven years, Mike.

780
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:50,240
How do you do?

781
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,640
Louie?

782
00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:51,080
Yes.

783
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:51,660
How do you do?

784
00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:52,080
Good.

785
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:52,840
Nice to meet you.

786
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,720
I knew he'd be showing up, but I didn't know exactly when.

787
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,060
Yeah.

788
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,880
As I understand it, this is basically a community, a spiritual community,

789
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,740
that follows the spiritual guidance of a single individual, being that man over there.

790
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,160
Oh, yes.

791
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,480
Sri Swami Ganapati Satchidananda Swamiji.

792
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:08,680
Why are all these people here?

793
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,440
What are they doing here?

794
00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:15,520
Well, you know, it's an individual path, but ultimately people are improving themselves.

795
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,960
I'm on a sort of spiritual journey of my own, looking for answers a little bit.

796
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,660
I'm fairly skeptical by nature.

797
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:24,340
Oh, yeah.

798
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,200
During the club.

799
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,580
Really?

800
00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:26,860
I'm a total skeptic.

801
00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:27,480
Are you seriously?

802
00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:28,300
Yes.

803
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,360
One of his biggest vehicles for helping people is his music.

804
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:38,200
His musical compositions affect human physiology in a direct way.

805
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Wait, that seems like an important point.

806
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:48,620
Yeah, kind of meaning like when he's jamming on the keyboard, the result is that people

807
00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:54,900
are getting vibrations that are affecting their physiology medicinally directly.

808
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,140
He uses music to cure people?

809
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,860
Yeah, in a very direct way.

810
00:33:58,940 --> 00:34:03,940
Sometimes he intros a song by going, you know, this one's for back problems or vision

811
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:06,680
or, you know, any number of things.

812
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:07,740
Because you wear spectacles.

813
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,140
Oh, yeah.

814
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,060
Yeah, I certainly do.

815
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:09,920
I wear Coke bottles.

816
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,340
Yeah.

817
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:11,160
I mean, those things are thick.

818
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,100
Couldn't he cure that?

819
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:12,720
Your eyesight?

820
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:13,500
He might.

821
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,660
You know, I haven't, you know, it could happen.

822
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:20,280
He's done much bigger things than that.

823
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:28,180
Mike wanted to show me his favorite spot in the ashram, a garden of meditation stones.

824
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:29,720
How are you doing?

825
00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:38,180
You know, the Swami suggested facing a certain direction and I can't remember which direction.

826
00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:49,360
I have to laugh because the Swami does exhibit effects that to us are considered supernatural.

827
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,860
Yeah.

828
00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:53,800
It's not a hocus pocus, you know, kind of thing.

829
00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:06,760
It's the result of dedication, focus, yoga practice and the end result are siddhis, s-i-d-d-h-i-s and they're supernatural powers.

830
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,260
Seriously?

831
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:07,760
Yeah.

832
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,260
Yeah.

833
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:08,360
Yeah.

834
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,640
The Swami routinely materializes jewelry for people.

835
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Jewelry?

836
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,860
Yeah.

837
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:14,940
Like what kind of jewelry?

838
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:20,680
Like bracelets and necklaces and rings and things like this, like this, as a matter of fact.

839
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:36,020
But his take on it though is he says it's not for show, I mean, in other words, like this isn't Las Vegas, you know, but he says materializations are for two purposes, for energy balance or spiritual protection, only.

840
00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:38,760
So you wouldn't materialize a new car?

841
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:39,520
Likely not.

842
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:51,080
You're a physicist by occupation, so I would expect that would make you pretty hard-headed and that you'd look for scientific proof and all this kind of thing.

843
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640
And have you applied those techniques to Swamiji?

844
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,640
Absolutely.

845
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:03,500
I'm a scientist to the smallest iota when it comes to proof, but my association with Swamiji, there's an element of just kind of like love and affection.

846
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:12,580
I was skeptical, but I liked Mike, so I signed up for the whole range of Swamiji's spiritual exercises.

847
00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:15,140
There was yoga.

848
00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:26,860
There was a therapy bed that sent healing musical vibrations directly into your body.

849
00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:30,580
Is it any good when I do it?

850
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:31,760
Yes.

851
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:36,660
And there was a good old-fashioned sing-along.

852
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:48,960
But despite Mike's best efforts and a quick glimpse of Swamiji himself, I still didn't believe that the Swami could really perform miracles.

853
00:36:51,700 --> 00:37:02,140
It was Mike's last night before returning to America, and he invited me to sleep over at the dorm and then share his farewell audience with the Swami the following morning.

854
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:09,940
There's this really nice, accomplished shopkeeper from London that told me a story a day or two ago.

855
00:37:09,940 --> 00:37:16,380
He said Swamiji came into his shop and got some items and he writes up a bill.

856
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:22,820
Swamiji, Swamiji, Swamiji goes like this and a 50-pound note just jumped out of his foot.

857
00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:24,260
He goes here.

858
00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:25,260
He goes here.

859
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:29,260
He's working on a cosmic level.

860
00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:31,700
Don't take this the wrong way, Mike.

861
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:35,700
But was there any sadness in your life before you came to see the Swami and committed to Him?

862
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:42,700
I've always, I have a little saying, fundamentalism is the aftermath of a nervous breakdown.

863
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:43,700
You know, it's a little bit coarse, but no.

864
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:44,700
No.

865
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:45,700
Did you have a nervous breakdown?

866
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:46,700
No.

867
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:47,700
Sometimes I'm sick.

868
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:48,700
Yeah.

869
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:49,700
Would I come up with that?

870
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:50,700
Yeah.

871
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:51,700
Yeah.

872
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,700
Yeah.

873
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:53,700
Yeah.

874
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:54,700
Yeah.

875
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:55,700
Yeah.

876
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:56,700
Yeah.

877
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:57,700
Yeah.

878
00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:58,700
Yeah.

879
00:37:58,700 --> 00:37:59,700
Yeah.

880
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:00,700
Yeah.

881
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:01,700
Yeah.

882
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:02,700
Yeah.

883
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:03,700
Yeah.

884
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:04,700
Yeah.

885
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:05,700
Yeah.

886
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:06,700
Yeah.

887
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:07,700
Yeah.

888
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:08,700
Yeah.

889
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:09,700
Yeah.

890
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:10,700
Yeah.

891
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:11,700
Yeah.

892
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:12,700
Would I come up with that?

893
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:13,700
Yeah.

894
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:14,700
Please.

895
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:15,700
Yeah.

896
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:16,700
No, I don't, no.

897
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:21,700
No, I mean, you know, meaning like, you know, you know, okay.

898
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,700
Yeah.

899
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:23,700
Yeah.

900
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:24,700
It isn't self-evident.

901
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:25,700
I mean, no parent.

902
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:30,700
I mean, it's kind of like, you know, are you like a burnout, you know, who found the Lord?

903
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:32,700
You know, not quite.

904
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:36,700
Are you ready for it?

905
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:37,700
Yes, I think so.

906
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:38,700
I'll take it.

907
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:39,700
I'll take it.

908
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:43,700
I hadn't meant to offend Mike.

909
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:44,700
He was a nice guy.

910
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,700
But I was worried that for him and many of the Westerners, the Swami's main attraction

911
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,700
lay in their need to believe in his supernatural powers.

912
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,700
Yes, I'm just going to see you in that room there.

913
00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:58,700
Okay.

914
00:38:58,700 --> 00:38:59,700
Yes, there's a small room there.

915
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:07,700
And yet, I was still excited to finally meet him.

916
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:09,700
I think he's on his way.

917
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:10,700
Yes.

918
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:11,700
Thank you very much.

919
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,700
Thank you.

920
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:13,700
Thank you.

921
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:14,700
Thank you.

922
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:15,700
Thank you.

923
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:16,700
Thank you.

924
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:17,700
Is Mike making good progress?

925
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:18,700
Maybe you can ask Mike about the Swamiji's association.

926
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,700
Every single day of my life, Swamiji helps me.

927
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:21,700
Every single day.

928
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:22,700
Every single day.

929
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:23,700
Every single day.

930
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:26,700
Mike said that you had materialized this mala for him.

931
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:31,700
If you did that for everyone, I imagine you'd get an enormous number of followers and a lot

932
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:32,700
of attention.

933
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:33,700
I'm not agreeing.

934
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:34,700
That is not a permanent solution.

935
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:35,700
If you give miracles.

936
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:36,700
I'm a bigger man.

937
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:37,700
But what about you?

938
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:38,700
It is only two minutes only satisfaction.

939
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:39,700
So I believe Mickey is changing, I believe.

940
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:40,700
That is a big miracle.

941
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:41,700
That is a permanent solution.

942
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,700
Mike said you enjoyed a magic show in Las Vegas.

943
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:45,700
Magic?

944
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:46,700
No.

945
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:47,700
No.

946
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:48,700
No.

947
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:49,700
No.

948
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:50,700
No.

949
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:51,700
No.

950
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:52,700
No.

951
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:53,700
No.

952
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:54,700
No.

953
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:55,700
No.

954
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:56,700
No.

955
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:57,700
No.

956
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:58,700
No.

957
00:39:58,700 --> 00:39:59,700
No.

958
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:00,700
No.

959
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:01,700
No.

960
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:02,700
No.

961
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:03,700
No.

962
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:04,700
No.

963
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:05,700
No.

964
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:06,700
No.

965
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:07,700
No.

966
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:08,700
No.

967
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:09,700
No.

968
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:10,700
No.

969
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:11,700
No.

970
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:12,700
No.

971
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:13,700
No.

972
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:14,700
No.

973
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:15,700
No.

974
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:16,700
No.

975
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:17,700
No.

976
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:18,700
No.

977
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:19,700
No.

978
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:20,700
No.

979
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:21,700
No.

980
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:22,700
No.

981
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:23,700
No.

982
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:24,700
No.

983
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:25,700
No.

984
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:27,700
No.

985
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:28,700
No.

986
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:30,700
No.

987
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:31,700
No.

988
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:32,700
No.

989
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,700
No.

990
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:35,200
No.

991
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:36,700
No.

992
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:37,700
No.

993
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:38,700
No.

994
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:44,700
Of course, I'm a magician also there, but I'm not a magician.

995
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:48,700
After that, Swamiji's friendship, so many thousands of people, they're changing.

996
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:52,700
Why not you think that is a good miracle, big miracle?

997
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:56,700
What is your opinion?

998
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,700
That's not the proper focus. That's not the point.

999
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,700
The bigger picture is Swamiji helping humanity in many, many ways.

1000
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:08,700
Thank you. Thank you very much.

1001
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,700
Thank you.

1002
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:14,700
Swamiji has given a spiritual name after seven years.

1003
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:18,700
Your name is Manu, the great saint Manu.

1004
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:22,700
Did that seem to go okay?

1005
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:26,700
Yeah, it was a very interesting audience with him.

1006
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,700
And you got a new name. Big day for you.

1007
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,700
Yeah, it's something that people do at some point here.

1008
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:33,700
What was it?

1009
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:35,700
It's Manu.

1010
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:36,700
Excellent.

1011
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:41,700
How was the interview?

1012
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:48,700
I think he's a terrific, nice guy and probably an excellent teacher, but not superhuman.

1013
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:51,700
That's your opinion.

1014
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:55,700
I knew that he would downplay the...

1015
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:56,700
The miracles?

1016
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:00,700
Yeah, anything that would be sort of sensational to a Western audience.

1017
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:02,700
It's real, but it's incidental.

1018
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,700
It's incidental to his work.

1019
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:10,700
I may be mistaken, but when you were in there and he gave you the new name, it seemed like you were on the verge of tears.

1020
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:17,700
To me, it's a very endearing experience to be around Swamiji.

1021
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:23,700
In fact, I've sacrificed some of my objectivity, but after a lot of consideration.

1022
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,700
You don't really believe in the materialisations, do you?

1023
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:27,700
I mean, really?

1024
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:28,700
Yeah.

1025
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:31,700
Oh, I verily do, yes.

1026
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,700
Well, it's because I've seen him, like, hundreds of times.

1027
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:45,700
And it turns out that mastery of yoga allows mastery over the physical world, beyond being able to jump in a car and drive away.

1028
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:50,700
Hey, thanks a lot.

1029
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:51,700
Good luck, Mike.

1030
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:52,700
Thank you.

1031
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:53,700
Manu, whichever your name is.

1032
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:54,700
You're right.

1033
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:55,700
Yes.

1034
00:42:55,700 --> 00:43:02,700
As Mike headed back to California to explain to the guys in the physics lab that they could now call him Manu,

1035
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,700
it was time for me to get on the road as well.

1036
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,700
I had an appointment to be hugged, and I intended to keep it.

1037
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:17,700
I'm here to hug Ammar.

1038
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:18,700
Hug Ammar?

1039
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:19,700
Hug Ammar, yes.

1040
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:21,700
Yes, yes, you don't mind, you don't.

1041
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:28,700
I returned to Ammar still unconvinced by the whole idea of worshipping anyone still living.

1042
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:33,700
But the crowds and all the merchandise suggested that not everyone felt the same.

1043
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:39,700
To worship someone who's still alive, to my mind, is odd.

1044
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:41,700
Well, what about for your heart rather than your mind?

1045
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:42,700
Well, I've never done it.

1046
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:44,700
I can't imagine worshipping a human being.

1047
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:47,700
It would be like saying, you know, you're a million times better than I am.

1048
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:49,700
I wouldn't like to believe that of anyone.

1049
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:54,700
But part of the understanding is that she's within you and she's in your own heart.

1050
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:55,700
Yeah.

1051
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:57,700
So there's not such a separation between...

1052
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,700
She's a human being though, right?

1053
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:01,700
Huh?

1054
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:04,700
That's a good question.

1055
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:10,700
The time was approaching.

1056
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:12,700
Ammar had arrived.

1057
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:17,700
Pretty soon I would know for myself if the hug was like one from my own mother,

1058
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,700
or from a spiritual leader, or even from God.

1059
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:35,700
In the midst of the devotees and the sacred ritual, I still managed to hook up with my old friend, Ramanan.

1060
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:41,700
And then the hugging began.

1061
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:43,700
For some reason I'm being quite stressed out.

1062
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,700
Do you think that's part of like the...

1063
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:47,700
That's often people's...

1064
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:48,700
Yeah.

1065
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:49,700
That's often people's reaction.

1066
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:53,700
As you approach Ammar, it's sort of like you're coming into her force field.

1067
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:56,700
All sorts of emotions and feelings and thoughts will arise.

1068
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,700
Everyone's experience is different.

1069
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:02,700
But you get a taste of enlightenment, actually, through that hug.

1070
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:07,700
We met that gentleman before in the yellow scarf.

1071
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:08,700
What's his name?

1072
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:09,700
Ah, yes.

1073
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:10,700
Aniruddin.

1074
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:11,700
That's pretty intense.

1075
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:12,700
Yeah.

1076
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:13,700
Have you noticed?

1077
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:14,700
Very.

1078
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:15,700
Yeah.

1079
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:20,700
I had time for one last piece of advice from Courtney.

1080
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:24,700
You could write a doctoral thesis on chocolate.

1081
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:28,700
You could read books and books about the taste of chocolate.

1082
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,700
But unless you experience the taste of chocolate,

1083
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:37,700
all the books in the world will never tell you what the experience of it's like.

1084
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:38,700
Wow.

1085
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,700
I'm sure she'll do some work on you.

1086
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:42,700
We'll see.

1087
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:43,700
Thanks a lot.

1088
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:44,700
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1089
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:45,700
I'm sorry.

1090
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:46,700
I'm sorry.

1091
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:47,700
I'm sorry.

1092
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:48,700
I'm sorry.

1093
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:49,700
It's not that you have to work on you.

1094
00:45:49,700 --> 00:46:07,700
I don't know if it was the incense or the music, or maybe the crush of the crowd, but something

1095
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:09,700
something very odd happened.

1096
00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:27,080
For the first time in my whole trip,

1097
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,320
I felt like something had touched me

1098
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,260
in a way I couldn't explain.

1099
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:41,700
That was really good.

1100
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:42,700
Yeah?

1101
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:43,700
Yeah.

1102
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:44,700
What did you feel?

1103
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:45,700
How was it for you?

1104
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:47,700
It was very comforting, you know.

1105
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:49,700
Hmm, that's good.

1106
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:51,700
And she gave me a little kiss on the cheek.

1107
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,700
That was really nice.

1108
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,700
I did feel like for a second I wanted to cry,

1109
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,700
but I don't know if that was because

1110
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,700
it was just a really nice hug.

1111
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:04,700
Do you know what I mean?

1112
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,700
Many, many, many people burst into tears

1113
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:09,700
and they can't explain why.

1114
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:15,700
Whatever was going on,

1115
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:17,700
all over India I'd seen Westerners

1116
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,700
who'd surrendered themselves to gurus

1117
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:22,700
in the hope of finding something they needed.

1118
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:25,700
And even I had fallen under the spell.

1119
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:27,700
Final words of advice.

1120
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,700
Don't let this be the end.

1121
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:31,700
Let this be a beginning for you.

1122
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:34,700
There's a great, wonderful world within.

1123
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:37,700
So, find it.

1124
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:39,700
I would start looking immediately.

1125
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:41,700
Immediately I got home.

1126
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,700
Would it be alright if I played a short song?

1127
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:48,700
A short? Yeah.

1128
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:54,700
Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, chameleon.

1129
00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:57,700
You come and go.

1130
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,700
You come and go.

1131
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:06,700
Loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams.

1132
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,700
Red, gold, and green.

1133
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:13,700
Red, gold, and green.

1134
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:22,700
Thank you.

1135
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:28,700
Quite a strain performing in front of people.

1136
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:29,700
Thank you.

1137
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:31,380
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