1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,580 Today we have something very extraordinary. I am really thrilled that we have Danny Sheehan 2 00:00:11,580 --> 00:00:21,900 with us today. Danny is like a mentor and a teacher to so many of us, certainly me, 3 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:29,800 when he refers to international or domestic policy, constitutional law, world affairs, 4 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,780 international relations, but certainly also the esoteric and the mystery schools, 5 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:42,220 and even UFOs. So you kind of get an all-around variety of wisdom here on a 6 00:00:42,220 --> 00:00:47,840 multitude of different levels. Of course he has been involved in cases like 7 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Iran-Contra and the Pentagon Papers and his credentials speak so much, but I'm 8 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,040 not going to waste any time. Please give a very warm and wonderful welcome for our 9 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:06,200 good friend, Mr. Daniel Sheehan. Thank you. Will this echo or I turn it off or 10 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:12,620 something? Anyway, here we go. Put that over there. Great. Thank you, you guys. Thank 11 00:01:12,620 --> 00:01:18,440 you. What I want to talk about this afternoon is the fact that, you know, 12 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:25,100 other than this huge bruja going on and this major confrontation that's going on 13 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:28,940 around the country right now with everybody sort of, you know, retreating to 14 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:33,260 their respective corners and getting ready to have a major food fight. Other than 15 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:47,180 that going on, the two of the major movements going on in the world right now, one of them, of course, as you know, is the major movement to try to slow 16 00:01:47,180 --> 00:01:54,460 and stop and reverse global climate change. This is bearing down on everyone now that 17 00:01:54,460 --> 00:02:00,860 it's the scientists have been trying to tell people about this for some two, three decades now. 18 00:02:00,860 --> 00:02:07,020 But now people are starting to notice it with, you know, half of Northern California burning to the ground and 19 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:13,660 massive tornadoes coming in floods and wiping out entire cities like New Orleans and etc. 20 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:21,740 So people are now sort of grokking the fact that the consequences of global climate change are upon us now. 21 00:02:22,380 --> 00:02:30,540 And so there's a major movement that's been going on to try to come to grips with the kind of the fundamental causes of this 22 00:02:30,540 --> 00:02:37,580 and not just address the symptoms. And so that there's this whole movement for a Green New Deal, 23 00:02:37,580 --> 00:02:44,540 a major fundamental reorientation of our economy and our way of living that is going to try to roll back 24 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:52,860 the consequences of relying upon fossil fuels, of gasoline and coal and natural gas, etc., and 25 00:02:54,140 --> 00:03:01,580 others of the fossil fuels. And so that's a major movement. But there's also at the same time going on 26 00:03:01,580 --> 00:03:10,300 a second major movement, which is this movement for the establishment of a new paradigm, a new worldview. 27 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:18,220 I touched upon it just briefly this afternoon at noontime on the panel because they asked me, 28 00:03:18,220 --> 00:03:23,420 you know, to talk about what the kind of the major messages I would have for people. 29 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:30,460 And of course, I was addressing the issue of global climate change. And but I also talked about this 30 00:03:30,460 --> 00:03:40,220 dynamic going on of the new paradigm. And what what this is at base is is an effort on the part of the 31 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:49,580 intellectual, spiritual, philosophical community to attempt to integrate into all of the various fields of 32 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:57,100 human knowledge. The insights that have actually been come to way back at the beginning of the 20th 33 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:05,980 century, back between actually in 1923 and 1926. There were a whole series of major scientific discoveries 34 00:04:05,980 --> 00:04:15,340 that were made by Louis de Broglie, Max Planck, Neil Bohr, Erwin Schrodinger, and Werner Heisenberg and others 35 00:04:15,340 --> 00:04:25,340 that you've heard about that really so dramatically countered the fundamental assumptions of the 36 00:04:25,340 --> 00:04:33,500 materialist worldview that had arisen at the at the end of the Enlightenment, that this up until the 37 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:40,620 Enlightenment is sort of understood to have gone on some some right around the beginning of 1700 to 1789, 38 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:48,620 that entire period of the 18th century, during which there was an effort to dispel the kind of 39 00:04:48,620 --> 00:04:57,820 superstitious worldviews that had had governed during the medieval period. It was superstition and and, 40 00:04:57,820 --> 00:05:02,860 you know, dunking witches, you know, to see if they floated or didn't, you know, to, you know, 41 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:09,580 this whole thing that was going on, there was an attempt to kind of get that behind us. And with the the 42 00:05:09,580 --> 00:05:16,140 scientific discoveries that were going on, the age of reason came upon us through the Enlightenment. 43 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:26,780 And what happened is there was a major encyclopedia that was actually written at the at the end of the 44 00:05:26,780 --> 00:05:37,500 of the the period of the Enlightenment period. There was 28 volumes were written that were explaining this 45 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:46,300 entire new worldview of the natural sciences, that everything was reduced to scientific materialism, 46 00:05:47,340 --> 00:05:55,580 and that rational inquiry through science and linear the application of linear thought and mathematical 47 00:05:55,580 --> 00:06:06,380 certainty could actually determine all of the reality in the in the universe, that they postulated that 48 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:14,300 everything in the universe was made up of material matter, that was either either mass or energy, 49 00:06:14,940 --> 00:06:23,100 the two of them, and that the entire universe was made up of these little individual units of matter, 50 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:31,100 whether they were mass or energy. But if one could determine how they sort of bang together like little 51 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:38,620 billiard balls, one could predict how they were going to bounce off each other. And you could determine 52 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:44,620 from determining the weight and the velocity of a particular unit of matter, and its encounter with 53 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:51,980 another one, you could determine what the if you knew the angle of impact what where it was going. And so that there 54 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:59,420 was this this this hallelujah chorus went up for the human family, that that we had finally discovered 55 00:06:59,420 --> 00:07:07,820 how to determine the future in reality, if and you could get control over it. Very importantly, it 56 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:13,740 postulated, as I said first, that the universe was made up of these little tiny billiard balls, 57 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:19,980 that we could we could predict what was going to happen with them, and that this enabled us to not 58 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:28,540 only predict it, but to control it by intervening physically into the material universe. If we could 59 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:36,220 insert ourselves into the interplay between these little billiard balls that made up all of material 60 00:07:36,220 --> 00:07:45,660 reality, we could actually impact and control reality itself. Not coincidentally, empowering ourselves 61 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:56,380 as a species to to to basically gain control over nature and the material realm of reality to our own 62 00:07:56,380 --> 00:08:03,260 benefit. Not coincidentally, as it turns out, that was what the whole purpose was, is to get control of 63 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:13,660 nature, get control of reality, and and remold it, repath it, pathway it from its logical encounters with 64 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:22,060 each other at random, but to get them in control for our own material benefit. But as I said that this 65 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:32,140 this set of discoveries that took place were had to had to cope with the the undertaking at the end of the 66 00:08:32,140 --> 00:08:38,860 the the period of enlightenment, there was this period of all of these people, Rousseau and Voltaire and 67 00:08:41,340 --> 00:08:48,380 about 12 people all came together, big philosophers and theologians and scientists, and they all prepared 68 00:08:48,380 --> 00:08:58,140 this big 28-volume encyclopedia that basically applied this theory of scientific, logical, positivist 69 00:08:58,140 --> 00:09:05,100 materialism, materialism. They applied it to every field, not just physics, but in philosophy, and in 70 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:15,500 religion, and in linguistics, and in etymology, the evolution of our of our species. They engaged in this 71 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:22,060 whole process of gaining control of how people thought in the world, in western civilization. 72 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:33,180 And that had this major effect, so that when the discoveries got made between 1923 and 1926, 73 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:41,660 in the beginning of the 20th century, that really, as I said, knocked into a complete cocked hat 74 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:50,060 all of these fundamental assumptions about materialism. The worldview didn't change. The scientific 75 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:57,820 scientific community stayed locked in to this scientific, logical, positivist, radical materialist 76 00:09:57,820 --> 00:10:08,060 worldview, because our entire sense of power and control over our environment was so essential to 77 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:18,540 our species that we wouldn't let go of it. And so that these discoveries that got made between 1923 and 1926, 78 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:23,340 even though the scientific community started making these all available to everybody, 79 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:30,220 there was a deep resistance to it. And so what were the, what were these, this handful of discoveries 80 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:37,340 that were made between 1923 and 1926 that so fundamentally challenged the fundamental assumptions 81 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:44,620 of this, this worldview? And that was this. What they discovered is, is that these little billiard balls, 82 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:51,660 that they all had presumed under the materialist worldview were these ultimately solid little units of 83 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:56,700 matter that would bang together and we could predict how they were going to interact. What they discovered 84 00:10:56,700 --> 00:11:05,100 is that those could be, in fact, broken up. You could break up those atoms in that they would actually 85 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:11,820 break up into protons and neutrons and electrons. And you could actually break them up further. And you 86 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:19,420 could break up the proton. You could, you could break that up into smaller electrons. You could break them up 87 00:11:19,420 --> 00:11:30,220 further into photons, in neutrinos, in quarks, in leptons, in muons, in skeptons, in squarks. And they kept on going. 88 00:11:30,220 --> 00:11:35,180 They, they kept on being able to, to discover that you could break these things up into smaller and smaller and smaller 89 00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:43,260 entities of matter. But the most important thing they discovered is that you would ultimately come to a point where 90 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:50,140 when you broke up the most, the smallest possible unit of matter, that it would disappear. 91 00:11:50,140 --> 00:12:00,380 That it would actually become non materially manifest. Uh, and it would, uh, all that was there was what they call an 92 00:12:00,380 --> 00:12:11,100 inchoate quantum field. Uh, inchoate meaning that it's non-manifest. Uh, it's there, uh, in potential, but it's not there 93 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:18,300 in any kind of material manifestation. And, and what they would, they discovered is that, however, if you observe one of these 94 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:26,300 inchoate quantum fields that it would flash back up into material existence and it would, it would 95 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:33,900 materialize either as a wave of energy and then pop back out of material manifestation. Uh, and then it 96 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:41,740 would then pop into material manifestation again, either as another, a wave of energy again, or as an 97 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:52,060 incipient, uh, particle of mass. Uh, so you got this mass or energy manifestation, uh, in the material realm 98 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:59,420 of an otherwise inchoate quantum field. So that, so this was, this was a complete astonishment, uh, to the 99 00:12:59,420 --> 00:13:05,260 materialist world saying, wait a second, you have actually undermined the most fundamental premise of 100 00:13:05,260 --> 00:13:12,540 materialism that there aren't these, uh, predictable little billiard balls, uh, that we can figure out 101 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:17,340 how they're bumping into each other. And so we can intervene physically and get control over the 102 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:23,580 environment. So what, what they discovered, however, is that these, these inchoate quantum fields, when they 103 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:31,020 would flash into material manifestation, either as a wave of energy or as a, uh, basically a Higgs boson, 104 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:37,500 an incipient particle of mass, that what they, they were, were figuring this out in the big, 105 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:44,220 the big problem number two that they discovered is that they didn't materially manifest as either a 106 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:51,340 wave of energy or a particle of mass in any type of predictable pattern. There was no predictability 107 00:13:51,340 --> 00:13:56,860 about this. Now this is quite disquieting for people that are trying to get control, uh, over this 108 00:13:56,860 --> 00:14:03,500 process. And, and, and so what they discovered is that the, the, this random manifestation into the 109 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:09,420 material realm, either as a wave of energy or a particle of mass, uh, which they were totally 110 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:17,180 unable to predict what they discovered thirdly. And most importantly is that if in fact a human being 111 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:24,860 directed her or his intention to the inchoate quantum field, 112 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:35,100 it would actually manifest as what was intended, not to a completely predictable level, but to a 113 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:41,100 statistically significant degree, which was all that was necessary to really freak them out. 114 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:47,260 Because what this did is it completely, uh, contravened one of the most fundamental assumptions 115 00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:53,980 of the materialist worldview. And that was that somehow the material world existed out there, 116 00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:59,260 you know, outside of our eyeballs, outside of our intention, outside of our perspective, 117 00:14:59,980 --> 00:15:08,380 there was this objective material world in universe that existed in which we could then relate to in 118 00:15:08,380 --> 00:15:16,380 this dialectical dynamic of us being outside of it and separate and apart from it. And we could then relate 119 00:15:16,380 --> 00:15:25,740 relate to it and, and, and that our intellect was the means by which we did this. And, and the, uh, the Latin root 120 00:15:25,740 --> 00:15:34,620 for the intellect is intellectus, which means the ability to distinguish the difference between. 121 00:15:34,620 --> 00:15:41,660 And so that our, our application of our intellect was rooted in the necessity of being able to have these 122 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:48,140 separate entities of little billiard balls that we could then apply our intellect, the ability to 123 00:15:48,140 --> 00:15:52,300 distinguish the difference between them and make these computations as to how they were going to 124 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:58,620 inter, interact with each other. So now all of a sudden you, first of all, dropped right off the cliff 125 00:15:58,620 --> 00:16:06,540 of having these billiard balls disappear entirely out of material manifestation. And then you had even 126 00:16:06,540 --> 00:16:15,180 this more troublesome reality that somehow our direct human intention actually had a direct effect upon 127 00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:23,100 the actual form in which matter would manifest itself either as a wave of energy or a particle of mass. 128 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:31,180 Uh, and so that these things actually, uh, scared, uh, all the materialists to begin with. They said, 129 00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:38,380 wait a second, we're losing control here. We're, we're, we're not in control of what's going on. And as they 130 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:45,100 continued to do their experiments, what they discovered is that if you, you had, uh, one of the, either a wave 131 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:53,820 of energy or a particle of mass, uh, if you, if you accelerated two of these away from each other, 132 00:16:54,460 --> 00:17:00,940 traveling at this virtually the speed of light, what they discovered that if you applied force to one 133 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:07,100 of them, as they were accelerating away from each other, and you applied force to one of them, the other 134 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:14,140 one would move. Because in, and even though they were traveling at the speed of light and they were a 135 00:17:14,140 --> 00:17:20,140 distance away from each other, it would happen absolutely instantaneously. And so what that meant was that 136 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:28,460 somehow there was having an effect at a distance that occurred faster than the speed of light. And they 137 00:17:28,460 --> 00:17:34,060 were convinced that nothing could happen of the materialists. Nothing could happen faster than the speed of light. 138 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:42,300 And yet here was this direct evidence that it could. Uh, and, and so, uh, and what they, what they 139 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:47,260 discovered, they were, they were actually able to compute this and they discovered that every single 140 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:54,060 integer of matter, whether it's energy or mass, every single integer of matter in the entire universe 141 00:17:54,860 --> 00:18:03,820 was attracted to and bonded with and entangled with every other one, everywhere in the universe. 142 00:18:04,460 --> 00:18:09,420 That the degree of attraction between them was simply inversely proportional to the square of the 143 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:14,540 distance between them. Now, this is a lot of extraordinarily intellectual work that's being 144 00:18:14,540 --> 00:18:22,780 done here to try to understand, uh, how the bottom was dropping out of, uh, the materialist, uh, worldview. 145 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:28,620 However, the adherence to the material worldview, uh, even though it was now scientifically 146 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:36,220 outmoded all of its fundamental presumptions, uh, that they clung to the materialist worldview 147 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:41,100 because via this encyclopedia that had been prepared at the end of the 18th century, 148 00:18:41,660 --> 00:18:47,740 that they had thoroughly thought out all of the implications of materialism for all of the other 149 00:18:47,740 --> 00:18:54,140 fields of human knowledge, philosophy and theology and, and, uh, and, uh, literature and everything 150 00:18:54,140 --> 00:19:00,300 else. Uh, and so that they, they clung to this for, for two reasons. One is you probably are all 151 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:06,540 familiar with Thomas Kuhn. Thomas Kuhn wrote this famous, uh, article in 1962 called the structure of 152 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:13,660 scientific, uh, revolutions. And he said that, that with, with all the, the bragging that, uh, scientists 153 00:19:13,660 --> 00:19:19,820 do about how objective they are and how committed they are to staying open-minded in, in concluding things 154 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:25,900 about science, they discovered that, that, uh, when scientists take a position on something, 155 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:30,620 even though they profess to be doing experiments and looking for hypothetical changes in that, 156 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:37,180 that they don't change. And that the only way to bring about a major revolution in scientific thinking 157 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:42,300 was not to convince the scientists that they were wrong, but you had to wait for them to die. 158 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:52,380 Really. And so that, so that the scientific revolutions happened by a whole generation of scientists 159 00:19:52,380 --> 00:20:00,060 dying. Uh, and then the new, the new insights that have come about will come to pass. So theoretically, 160 00:20:00,060 --> 00:20:06,220 what should have happened is when all of the radical materialist scientists started dying off, 161 00:20:06,220 --> 00:20:12,300 then the new quantum insights ought to have come into place. But they weren't, uh, because, 162 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:17,980 because of this, this work that had been done and this set of encyclopedias, this encyclopedia, 163 00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:23,100 these 28 volumes, this is the thing that isn't really that well known about, but it was, it was 164 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:31,260 prepared between 1751 and 1772. It's called the encyclopedia of, uh, the systematic encyclopedia of 165 00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:39,900 science and, and art. Uh, and it was edited by, by Diderot. Uh, and I said, Rousseau was involved, 166 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:45,740 Voltaire was inside involved, Montesquieu was involved, uh, and they all wrote in these various 167 00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:51,900 areas of theology and economics and science and philosophy. And so that, that even though people 168 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:58,540 don't think about it, about the fact that all of these other fields of human knowledge are really 169 00:20:58,540 --> 00:21:05,500 derivative of the fundamental assumptions about the, the universe, the actual physical functioning 170 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:11,900 of the universe. Uh, and so that no one, uh, no one wanted to let go of this. And the fact is, 171 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:19,260 even to this day, no one has compiled an alternative encyclopedia, you know, of, of really trying to, 172 00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:25,340 to counter the effect of this original set of, uh, set of writings that were done, uh, way back, 173 00:21:25,340 --> 00:21:33,500 uh, ended in 1772. So this, this is a task that needs to really be undertaken. If in fact, there's 174 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:42,620 going to be a full throated effort to re-conceive of, uh, reality, uh, in light of these discoveries. 175 00:21:42,620 --> 00:21:50,220 Now, all, all, all of these, all of these areas I point out that were influenced by the scientific, 176 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:55,580 logical, positivist worldview that need to be revisited and looked at include, as I said, 177 00:21:55,580 --> 00:22:02,380 theology and philosophy and cosmology and, uh, in all of these. So you, you, you, you, you might ask 178 00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:09,420 it, you know, that, uh, why, why am I singling out some of these areas of human knowledge as most 179 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:15,340 important? This is the, the second part of what I want to talk about tonight. And this is that, uh, 180 00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:21,260 and it, this all becomes real, all of this is going to be relating to how this new worldview, 181 00:22:21,260 --> 00:22:28,220 this new quantum worldview once is thoroughly fleshed out, uh, and, and expanded into dealing 182 00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:34,300 with all the areas other than simply physics, but philosophy and theology and, and economics and 183 00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:40,140 other things that the reason, the reason that's so important is because, uh, what, what I discovered, 184 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:48,780 when it's, you probably know, I, I practice law all the time. Uh, and back in 1973, 72 and 73, 185 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:53,980 we were doing the Watergate burglary case that, uh, I was in the, the Boston law firm of attorney, 186 00:22:53,980 --> 00:23:01,740 F. Lee Bailey. Uh, we, our office was representing James McCord, who was the, uh, former CIA wiretapping 187 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:07,340 specialist that was caught in the, the Democratic National Committee with the other Watergate burglars. 188 00:23:07,340 --> 00:23:14,220 Um, and he's the one that, uh, ended up writing the letter to judge Sirica blowing the whistle on the 189 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:20,300 plumbers unit and Richard Nixon that led to his, the articles of impeachment, uh, against Richard 190 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:27,420 Nixon that caused him to resign. But, uh, I was, I got brought over by Bailey to work on, on that case, 191 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:33,660 uh, from the Cahill firm on wall street where I had come, I was the co-founding editor of the 192 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:39,900 Harvard civil rights law review. Uh, and they'd gone directly from there to, we initiated the case 193 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:44,700 at the law review at Harvard to establish the right of journalists to protect their confidential news 194 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:50,940 sources. That's where that came from was from our work at the law review. Uh, and so I got recruited 195 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:57,740 by the law firm that represented NBC news, uh, down on wall street to come to their firm to do that case 196 00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:02,860 with them and had then done the Pentagon papers case because the New York Times brought the Pentagon 197 00:24:02,860 --> 00:24:07,980 papers to us when, when their law firm Lord Day and Lord threatened to turn them into the FBI 198 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:12,940 if they didn't give them back. So, uh, I ended up being the one that, that the Jim Goodell called, 199 00:24:12,940 --> 00:24:17,820 who was the general counsel for the New York Times because I had done the amicus briefs through the 200 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:21,820 New York Times on the right of journalists to protect their confidential news sources. 201 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:26,620 We were doing that at the same time we were representing NBC. That was actually the principal, 202 00:24:26,620 --> 00:24:32,860 uh, client, this guy, uh, John Pappas, one of their reporters. So the bottom line is I was 203 00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:41,100 definitely Bailey's office and, uh, and Bailey, uh, during the course of our working on the, the, uh, 204 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:46,940 the Watergate burglary case, you know, I, he and I had a number of fairly intense conversations, 205 00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:53,340 uh, about what we thought ought to be done. Uh, and I actually, some of you have heard this story 206 00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:59,500 before, uh, in what we were working on the case in all the way up into May of 1973, right? This 207 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:04,940 happened, remember, on the night of June 17th of 1972. And so that we were working on that case all 208 00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:12,060 the way up into the spring of 1973. And in May of 1973, the occupation at Wounded Knee occurred, uh, 209 00:25:12,060 --> 00:25:18,060 out in South Dakota. And I got called by a classmate of mine and a good friend of mine from Harvard Law 210 00:25:18,060 --> 00:25:24,860 School who was the head of the Rocky Mountain region for ACLU National. And so he asked me to come out 211 00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:31,660 to help on the Wounded Knee case. So I went out to do that. Uh, and when I came back to the office, 212 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:37,420 to Lee Bailey's office, uh, Lee called me and he said, Dan, I understand that you were out at, uh, 213 00:25:37,420 --> 00:25:41,660 the Wounded Knee occupation. I said, yes, yes, I was. He said, come on, 214 00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:45,660 come on over to come down to my office and let's talk about this. So I go down to the office and 215 00:25:45,660 --> 00:25:53,660 sit down and he said to me, he said, uh, which side were you on? I said, well, actually I said, 216 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:58,220 what we were working on is trying to get, you know, medical supplies and food and water and stuff to 217 00:25:58,220 --> 00:26:04,860 the people inside the occupation, you know, that had all these snipers lying around, FBI snipers and 218 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:10,300 DEA snipers that were trying to pick off people who were the native people that were occupying this little 219 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:16,780 village. And, and he said, uh, you weren't on the side of the FBI. And I said, no, no. Uh, and he 220 00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:20,940 said, well, what the hell good does that do us? He said, you know, if, if you'd been on the side of 221 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:25,500 the FBI and the justice department, at least, you know, we would have generated some goodwill for the 222 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:30,300 office and you could have gone to the justice department to intervene, to get a better deal, 223 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:34,300 for example, for like Michael Angelo, one of the mafia people that we represent. 224 00:26:34,940 --> 00:26:40,780 So I was going, uh, wait a second. Uh, let's have a discussion about here, what, what I'm doing 225 00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:44,780 here and what you're doing here. So I started having this discussion with him and he started 226 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:49,180 saying things like, Hey, look, it's not up to me to decide whether the clients are guilty or not. 227 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:55,020 You know, all I do is do the, everything I can do to get them acquitted. Uh, and it's up to the other 228 00:26:55,020 --> 00:27:01,340 side to get him convicted if they want to do that. And he was, he was actually, you know, avoiding any 229 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:08,140 responsibility whatsoever for dealing with the truth, uh, or justice or anything like that. 230 00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:13,020 And so I was having this rather intense conversation with him about a different view that I had. 231 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:19,260 Uh, and anyway, so that I was, I was staying at his townhouse on, on Beacon Hill. He was newly 232 00:27:19,260 --> 00:27:24,060 married and he was living out outside of Boston. So I was staying at his townhouse on Beacon Hill. 233 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:27,660 And that following Sunday morning, that was a Friday afternoon. We had that big discussion. 234 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:32,140 So Sunday morning, I go to church at St. Cecilia's and I go to church and I'm coming back from church 235 00:27:32,140 --> 00:27:36,460 and I stopped into this bookstore. I'm kind of rummaging around in the bookstore and I find a 236 00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:42,380 copy of this new book that's come out called A Theory of Justice, uh, by John Rawls. John Rawls was the 237 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:48,140 chairman of the Department of Philosophy at Harvard University at the time. So I looked at it and I 238 00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:54,460 started looking through this thing and he was, he was, um, uh, writing a major treatise, his major treatise 239 00:27:54,460 --> 00:28:00,940 on justice. Uh, and he thought that he was going to try to figure out what the essential aspects of 240 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:08,940 justice were in Western civilization. Uh, and he thought that in a democracy, uh, when a, a society 241 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:14,140 is confronted with a public policy problem, you know, whether it's, whether you're going to support 242 00:28:14,140 --> 00:28:17,740 abortion, whether you're going to support first strike nuclear weapons, whether you're going to 243 00:28:17,740 --> 00:28:24,380 support capital punishment, whatever the public policy issue was that, that, uh, that he suspected that 244 00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:30,140 in a democratic society that what would happen is that they, the, the government would end up 245 00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:35,340 choosing the option to address each one of those issues that generated the greatest good for the 246 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:42,940 greatest number. The classic utilitarian majoritarian, uh, mode of ethical reasoning. But it turns out 247 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:47,980 he discovered in doing his work that that, that wasn't what happened. That there was this other factor 248 00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:53,980 that was going on in Western civilization. He said that there are people who assert that all men are 249 00:28:53,980 --> 00:28:58,140 created equal, they're endowed with their creator with certain unable rights. And they start listing 250 00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:02,940 all these rights, free speech, freedom of religion, you know, freedom of the press. They start elucidating 251 00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:08,460 these other positions, equal treatment, despite your race, you know, everything. Uh, and, and he said that 252 00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:16,540 this group of people in Western civilization, he referred to as the intuitionists. Uh, and so I said, 253 00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:22,300 oh, wow. I said, look at, that must be the story here. You know, here's Lee Bailey, a strict utilitarian. 254 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:26,060 What's in it for us? You know, how are you going to do something that benefits us? And here I am 255 00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:31,580 with these citing these other kind of abstract philosophical principles. Uh, and so I said, 256 00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:36,700 I better get the book and read it. So I got a copy, brought it home and read it. And then I called 257 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:41,980 over to John Rawls office at the office, at school. I'd gone to Harvard College and Harvard Law School. 258 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:47,020 And, uh, and so I, I called him up and, uh, called the secretary and said, you know, I'd like to 259 00:29:47,020 --> 00:29:51,740 have a meeting with professor Rawls to talk about his new book. You know, basically she was saying, 260 00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:55,580 yeah, you and a whole bunch of other people, you know, but I said, so I started waving my school 261 00:29:55,580 --> 00:29:59,420 tie through the phone going, I went to college and the law school, you know, I was the founder 262 00:29:59,420 --> 00:30:03,420 of the law review, you know, all this stuff. And so she finally says, okay, well, let me, let me talk 263 00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:07,740 to him. So he says, he agrees Wednesday. I can come over to see him like at two o'clock and he'll give 264 00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:12,940 me 15 minutes. So I go over there and I sit down and start talking with him and talk about the fact that 265 00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:16,300 I'd done the Pentagon Papers case for the New York Times. I did the case that established Roy of 266 00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:20,460 Journalist for Tech Conference and news sources, you know, that I was doing, working on the Watergate 267 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:24,940 burglary case. And he's going, his eyes are kind of getting big like saucers. And he said, you know, 268 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:28,860 holy mackerel. He said, you know, I didn't think that people that were involved in that kind of 269 00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:34,140 practical work in the law really cared about these kind of more abstract concepts that have to do with 270 00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:40,220 justice and, and, you know, intuitionists and all that. So we went from 15 minutes to an hour to two 271 00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:45,980 hours and he kept canceling other, other meetings that he had. So he ended up asking me to come back 272 00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:54,300 to Harvard to do a PhD in comparative social ethics, comparing and contrasting the mode of ethical 273 00:30:54,300 --> 00:31:02,540 reasoning of majoritarian utilitarianism versus intuitionism. And so I kept asking him, I said, well, 274 00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:10,860 what's going on with these intuitionists anyhow? He said, I don't know. I don't know what's going 275 00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:15,900 on there. I just know they say these things. They kind of state these kind of cryptic philosophical 276 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:20,940 things. It's not clear where they're coming from. And so I said, well, I guess I better come back 277 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:26,220 to the school and see if we can help figure this out. So I come back. So I leave Bailey's office 278 00:31:26,220 --> 00:31:32,940 and I enroll in September of 73 to go back to, back to Harvard university, do my master's degree 279 00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:38,140 and then PhD. And, uh, I figured I was going to end up in the philosophy department, right under John 280 00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:43,980 Rawls. Well, it turns out they assigned me to have my thesis advisor for my master's thesis be, uh, 281 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:50,460 Dr. Ralph Potter, who teaches comparative social ethics. And he's over at the Harvard Divinity School. 282 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:56,700 So I get assigned to the Divinity School. So I said, it's okay with me. Uh, you know, 283 00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,660 they used to say that. And when I was at the law school, I would ask certain questions during the 284 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:04,460 law school class. And they would say, uh, Mr. Sheehan, if you're going to ask questions like that, 285 00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:10,860 why don't you go over to the Divinity School? And so lo and behold, here I was, there I was at the 286 00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:16,940 Divinity School, kind of the indirect route, but there I was. And I discovered something that is 287 00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:23,820 extraordinarily important for us to talk about here today. And that is this, is that, uh, Dr. 288 00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:28,780 Ralph Potter started explaining to us that there have been lots, huge studies done at Harvard 289 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:34,140 University and other places around the world. And what they came to discover is that whenever 290 00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:45,100 our human family is confronted by any major public policy issue, that what happens is our human family 291 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:53,980 divides into factions. Uh, and that these factions take a completely different position as to what 292 00:32:53,980 --> 00:33:00,860 ought to be done to respond to this particular public policy issue. Uh, and Dr. Talcott Parsons, 293 00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:07,900 who was the founder of the department of sociology at Harvard, uh, university spent years sending his 294 00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:13,260 master's students and PhD students out around the world and interviewing everybody and trying to get 295 00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:18,380 them to tell what their position was on some of these issues, whether it's nuclear first strike, 296 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:23,740 abortion, you know, capital punishment, you know, uh, you know, racial justice, you know, affirmative 297 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:29,580 action, whatever the issues were. And what he discovered is that the, uh, the human family, 298 00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:36,780 we tend to break ourselves into, he thought five different groupings and they, they never did find 299 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:43,020 a whiteboard for me here. And I'm completely inept in all this technology. So I'll have to explain it 300 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:48,060 to you kind of visually what, what, what, what Ralph, what, what, uh, Talcott Parsons discovered, 301 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:54,300 he discovered that these, uh, groupings that we, we break into naturally as human beings, 302 00:33:54,300 --> 00:34:00,620 that, uh, there, there is a position on the extreme right that he called right systematists. 303 00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:05,660 They think systematically and that they come up with this position, which he put at the 304 00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:12,780 end of this spectrum and way over on the other side, he had this group called left systematists 305 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:19,580 and immediately inside on this spectrum that he had designed this sociological bar graph, 306 00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:29,100 he had another group that was, uh, he said that were, were left marginalists and right marginalists 307 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:34,780 just inside that. And then a group called middle marginalists to no one's surprise. Uh, it was the 308 00:34:34,780 --> 00:34:39,100 middle marginalists. And so he just laid these people out and he said, you go around interviewing 309 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:43,820 people and, uh, and, and what, what he discovered, this must be Talcott Parsons right now. He thinks I 310 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:52,780 don't have it right. Uh, no, it's, it's not him. Some guy from prison. Oh gee. Uh, anyway, uh, so, so, 311 00:34:52,780 --> 00:35:00,620 so, so the, so the, so the bottom line is that, so he, he came up, he came up with these five different 312 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:06,780 factions that, that the, that our human family tends to break into. And so what I did is I started 313 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:14,060 looking at these and, uh, and I, I came up, I was doing my master's thesis on this and rather than 314 00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:18,380 what they want to do is they, they assign you one, you pick one of these major public policy issues, 315 00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:22,780 you know, like affirmative action, you know, uh, whether or not there should be an equal rights 316 00:35:22,780 --> 00:35:26,540 amendment to the constitution, you know, you pick one of these public policy issues and then you're 317 00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:31,660 supposed to go around researching all the people that have spoken on the issue and break them up into 318 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:37,500 these five factions. And what I did is I came to believe that there were actually, in addition to 319 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:43,740 the, the, uh, right, right systematists and right marginalists, there was a group called right middle 320 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:49,020 marginalists that were in between the middle marginalists in there. And the same thing was 321 00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:53,660 true on the, on the left, that there were not only left systematists and left marginalists, but left 322 00:35:53,660 --> 00:36:01,340 middle marginalists, which were the classic liberals and conservatives, classic liberal and conservative 323 00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:06,940 positions that he hadn't even taken into account. And so I was doing my master's thesis, actually 324 00:36:06,940 --> 00:36:13,020 critiquing the founder of the department of social sociology at the department of Harvard, 325 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:18,300 it wasn't the most popular thing to do, but I was convinced it was true. And then, so I started 326 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:24,540 talking to Ralph Potter saying to him, look at, you know, just because, because I was a lawyer and I 327 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:28,380 was asking questions that were a little bit different than other people, other students did. And I said, 328 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:33,420 look, what is it that causes a person to be in one of these groups or the other? 329 00:36:34,780 --> 00:36:40,220 And, uh, and he said, well, that's interesting. He said, that's what I did my PhD work on. He said, 330 00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:46,860 under Talcott Parsons. And what he, what he came to believe is this, and this is what's important 331 00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:51,340 for you. And I want to see everybody taking notes here. This is the tough part of the, the, the seminar 332 00:36:51,340 --> 00:37:00,220 that what, what he decided is that there were four fundamental pillar beliefs that every human 333 00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:06,940 being has to form some kind of an opinion about if they're going to be able to function effectively 334 00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:13,420 in the world. Uh, and that what, what these are, they, and if I had the little chart up, I'd show you 335 00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:19,500 there's this great big four square, great big four square, like, you know, you play four square and 336 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:29,180 there's four, four of these fundamental beliefs. And the first one is cosmology, which is how is it 337 00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:37,020 that you think the universe came into being? You know, these are profound and fundamental questions 338 00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:43,900 that have to do with your understanding of reality itself. And this, the second issue, uh, after 339 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,700 cosmology about how the cosmos came into being 340 00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:57,820 is another big fancy word called teleology. And that is, how do you believe the universe is unfolding? 341 00:37:57,820 --> 00:38:02,460 You think the universe is unfolding pursuant to some sort of laws, natural laws, and there, 342 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:09,100 there's some sort of end in mind. There's some sort of objective that is, uh, is unfolding in the 343 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:16,220 universe, uh, or not. And then the fourth one, uh, is the, the other big word is called, but it's, 344 00:38:16,220 --> 00:38:22,460 you'll see how important this one is. It's ontology. What is your ontological, uh, conclusion? That is 345 00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:29,420 how did consciousness come into being for, it's a good thing for this weekend to talk about, 346 00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:34,460 you know, how did consciousness come into being? Is consciousness just sort of an epiphenomenon 347 00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:40,140 between the kind of random collision between mass and energy or units of mass encountering each other 348 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:46,220 in, in the, in an organism? And somehow this is a, an epiphenomenon of some sort, like an overtone of 349 00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:53,660 music, you know, or how did consciousness come into being in this otherwise strictly material universe? 350 00:38:53,660 --> 00:39:00,620 Uh, in the fourth and final of these, uh, of the potter's box, the four square, uh, the one, uh, is, 351 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:08,060 is epistemology. And that, oh, that's just another big word for what are the means that we have at our 352 00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:16,060 disposal as human beings to be able to answer cosmic questions like that? You know, are we limited to 353 00:39:16,060 --> 00:39:23,100 just what we can see and taste and touch, you know, and smell, are we limited to our five senses, uh, 354 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:27,740 as taking in data and then putting them through our intellect to try to figure out what the answer 355 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:34,700 to these things are? Or are there other means that we have at our disposal, uh, such as, for example, 356 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:41,580 ESP, you know, or channeling that there's all kinds of other means that, that certain people 357 00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:48,620 hypothesize exist, uh, as it answers the epistemological question. And what they discovered, 358 00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:54,940 what they discovered is that there are entirely different answers that people provide to these 359 00:39:54,940 --> 00:40:00,940 four questions of how did the universe come into being? Is, how is the universe unfolding toward any 360 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:06,780 particular end or objective or purpose? Uh, you know, how did consciousness come into being? Uh, 361 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:11,660 and what means do we have at our disposal by means of which we can ascertain those truths, 362 00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:17,420 that there are different answers that you can come up with to those questions. And it's important, 363 00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:22,300 absolutely essential that we put a little bookmark on this to say that nobody knows the answer to those 364 00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:29,980 things. Nobody knows the definitive answer to those things. But the fact is it's impossible to function 365 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:36,060 in the world without you at least unconsciously coming to some conclusion about those things. Even if you 366 00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:43,500 don't think about it consciously. And what, what they discovered is, is that, that, uh, if in fact 367 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:49,820 you answer all four of those questions, the questions as the, the question is how the universe came into 368 00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:54,780 being, you know, how it's unfolding or whether it's unfolding toward a particular point, how consciousness 369 00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:59,500 came into being and what the means are that we have at our disposal to ascertain the information. 370 00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:07,340 If you answer all four of those questions in a way that is internally and self-referentially consistent, 371 00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:13,340 so that all three of the other answers are consistent with whatever the answer is that you gave to one 372 00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:19,100 of them, that if you answer those, those four questions in a way that is internally and self-referentially 373 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:26,380 consistent, what you have is that you generate, you discern a common principle that is underlying the 374 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:33,500 answer to each one of those questions. You come up with a principle that generates a specific mode of 375 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:41,260 ethical reasoning. And I want to be clear about what this means. Everybody engages in conduct which 376 00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:50,540 they think is consistent with reality, right? I mean, that's the ethical thing to do is you choose to comport 377 00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:56,460 your conduct in accordance with reality, with the exception of some major people that we know. 378 00:41:58,460 --> 00:42:04,940 But the bottom line is that that's the ethical way of conducting yourself. You know, 379 00:42:04,940 --> 00:42:10,220 you may have a different view of what reality is, but as long as you're engaging in conduct 380 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:16,540 that is consistent with what you legitimately believe reality to be, that's an ethical position. 381 00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:21,500 Okay? And so that there are different modes of ethical reasoning that are generated 382 00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:28,940 by different answers to those questions. And what we came to understand is that based on this analysis 383 00:42:28,940 --> 00:42:39,580 of Talcott Parsons' ideological spectrum that goes all the way from a right systematist 384 00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:46,220 all the way over to a left systematist, with those seven major nodal points along there, from right 385 00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:50,860 systematist, to right marginalist, to right middle marginalist, to middle marginalist, to left 386 00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:55,900 middle marginalist, to left marginalist, to left systematist, those seven nodal points along the 387 00:42:55,900 --> 00:43:04,540 sociological bar graph that they all, they all are, what they have in common is each one of them provides an 388 00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:10,060 answer to all four of those questions, which is internally and self-referentially consistent with 389 00:43:10,060 --> 00:43:16,860 the other three. And so, and that's what generates a consistent mode of ethical reasoning for these 390 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:25,020 people. And so they have a worldview, a whole worldview. And if you apply the principles of that worldview 391 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:30,700 to answering all the normal questions that you encounter in your work-a-day life, it generates 392 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:37,980 a full-blown philosophy. That's where philosophies come from. When you actually get into, I mean, 393 00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:41,820 people who don't know any better just keep reading all these different philosophers and they say this 394 00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:47,420 and they say that. But what they're doing is they're offering a systematic analysis of fundamental 395 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:53,740 questions coming from a consistent point of view and a consistent mode of ethical reasoning. And that's 396 00:43:53,740 --> 00:44:00,860 what generates the major philosophers. All right. So, so that's extraordinarily important. Uh, because, 397 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:08,940 because what you discover is that a sub-function of your philosophy is your political philosophy. 398 00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:14,460 Your political philosophy flows directly out of your philosophy. What you're doing is you're applying 399 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:20,620 your philosophy to the question of how do you go about addressing public policy questions in a community. 400 00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:25,980 Okay. Okay. That when you're faced with a range of potential responses to a given public policy 401 00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:31,420 problem, how do you select which one you want? You apply a mode of ethical reasoning to that. 402 00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:36,940 And so what we see, this is the one that is most common to everybody. This is where you get the normal 403 00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:43,900 right-wing and left-wing people. Okay. Because the, the, on the extreme right, the right systematists, 404 00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:51,420 the political philosophy that is generic to the right systematists is authoritarianism. And you come 405 00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:59,340 into the, the, the right marginalists and they are reactionaries. And you come in one step more to the, 406 00:44:59,340 --> 00:45:04,620 to the right middle marginalists and they're conservatives. And you come into the middle 407 00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:11,580 marginalists and they're moderates to no surprise. Uh, the, you go to the, to the, to the left of the 408 00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:17,820 center to the, to the left middle marginalist and you get liberals and you go to the, the left 409 00:45:17,820 --> 00:45:24,380 marginalist and you get progressives and you get to the, the far left of the left systematists and you 410 00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:31,900 get utopianists. Okay. So now we're talking now, we're, now we're into something that people understand, 411 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:37,100 but the fact is they don't understand where it comes from and they don't understand what it means. 412 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:43,020 You see? And so people sling these ideas around all over the place. You know, ah, he's a, he's an 413 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:47,100 authoritarian, he's some kind of reactionary or the, you know, somebody, some kind of, you know, 414 00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:53,420 soft headed liberal and they, they don't even know what it means, but they just have some vague idea 415 00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:59,820 where they fall along the political spectrum. But what, what this shows is that there are full scale, 416 00:45:59,820 --> 00:46:07,020 scientific, logical ways of figuring out why it is that people do what they do. Okay. And what, 417 00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:12,780 what I discovered in, in going through all this, I said, now we're getting into this weekend. Okay. 418 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:20,140 What I discovered is, is that the charisms that are attached to these seven different nodal points 419 00:46:20,140 --> 00:46:26,060 along the sociological bar graph, the charisms that are characteristic of each of those nodal points 420 00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:30,540 are exactly the same characteristics that are attributed to the chakras. 421 00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:41,500 And that you get these, these right, these right systematists are deeply rooted in their root chakra. 422 00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:48,380 I mean, red, red, you know, and that they're totally clinging to life, that they're totally insecure, 423 00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:55,180 that they, they're constantly fearful that they're going to die or disappear or be disempowered. And so 424 00:46:55,180 --> 00:47:01,980 that they, they, they react in a very classic way all the time. Okay. And that this happens and it goes, 425 00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:07,100 if you, if you're familiar at all with the charisms of the, of the different chakras, 426 00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:13,100 what you'll see, you start to line them up with these seven, uh, and you'll discover that these, 427 00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:19,660 these charisms match almost identically. And so for the first time you start to say, well, 428 00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:27,740 this may begin to explain why a person adheres to one of those worldviews. What happens is that, 429 00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:32,860 that when you look at this and you start to compare and, and, uh, contrast the, the fundamental 430 00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:38,940 charisms of the, of the chakras with these charisms of these particular worldviews, what you discover 431 00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:47,020 is a very important thing. And that is that there's got to be an eighth worldview because of the eighth 432 00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:54,940 chakra, the chakra that exists above your head at the top of the energy envelopes that are generated by 433 00:47:54,940 --> 00:48:01,100 the chakras in your body, that you have these seven energy envelopes that are each generated by the 434 00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:06,060 chakra, the energy of its particular vibrational frequency, its particular rate of spin, 435 00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:11,980 its particular tip to the ecliptic, that these are energy fields that, that form around your body. 436 00:48:11,980 --> 00:48:17,420 And at the apex of all of this, these envelopes, there's an eighth, there's an eighth chakra. 437 00:48:18,140 --> 00:48:22,620 So there's got to be an eighth worldview. And so what is that worldview? 438 00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:30,220 This is the worldview that we're bumping into all the time with the extraterrestrials. 439 00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:37,100 This is the thing that we aren't understanding at all. There's something just out of our reach, 440 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:42,300 just out of our comprehension. There, there's things happening with these folks that they go 441 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:46,700 faster than the speed of light. They materialize and dematerialize. They move through walls. 442 00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:51,500 You know, they don't seem to be bound by our limitations of time, you know, that there's something 443 00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:58,860 completely mysterious going on. And so, so what I'm saying is, is that the genuinely new paradigm 444 00:48:59,820 --> 00:49:07,020 is not just the sixth paradigm quantum worldview, which is the basic progressive 445 00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:12,380 worldview that everybody who believes in quantum physics basically ends up being kind of a progressive 446 00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:16,460 because they think that, you know, that their direct intention can influence the manifestation of 447 00:49:16,460 --> 00:49:22,300 matter in the next, next microsecond. And we can all, uh, you know, sing kumbaya together and make 448 00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:28,380 the world a better place. You know, that this, this is the progressive worldview and that all of us 449 00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:32,700 in the present time, we're going to have a next part of this conversation. This is a very important one 450 00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:38,700 that it may sound like what I'm saying is that you shouldn't attach yourself to the sixth paradigm 451 00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:43,260 quantum worldview as the new paradigm worldview, but I'm going to suggest that we should, 452 00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:49,100 because that's the next one that's opening up for us all. It's the sixth chakra. It's the, 453 00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:53,980 it's the, it's the pituitary chakra. It's the one that has to do with ESP. It's the one that has to do 454 00:49:53,980 --> 00:49:59,580 with telepathy. It's the one that has to do with, with the teleportation. It has, there's all kinds 455 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:05,340 of charisms that are generic to this sixth paradigm, uh, worldview in this quantum realm that we're 456 00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:12,140 talking about. Uh, and the, the thing that's really so important about this is that the, the seventh, 457 00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:17,420 the seventh, well, let me, let me give you a classic example, just so we'll get grounded here. 458 00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:23,500 Uh, and, and that is, let's deal with just one of these four pillar beliefs of cosmology. 459 00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:30,380 Okay. The adherence to the right systematist worldview believe that they recognize that our, 460 00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:36,780 our universe is expanding. Uh, they recognize that all the elements on the periodical chart 461 00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:44,140 are disintegrating into their constituent elements. Uh, and so that they're expanding out and away from 462 00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:51,340 the original locus of the big bang and disintegrating and expanding. And what they conclude is that this 463 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:58,220 is going to continue going on until every single element in the universe has disintegrated 464 00:50:58,220 --> 00:51:04,620 into its component quantum, in Koi quantum fields. And they're going to continue to expand 465 00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:14,060 and it's going to therefore expand out into no thing ness. That that's the absolute entropy of the universe. 466 00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:21,580 And so that's, that's, that's what they believe is going on both cosmically and teleologically. 467 00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:28,700 Okay. That's a pretty depressing worldview because it leads them to believe that there's no point to 468 00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:33,340 anything. You know, that there's the, the only thing that makes any difference is them asserting 469 00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:40,540 themselves and asserting control over an otherwise chaotic universe through the, through the application of 470 00:51:40,540 --> 00:51:49,580 brute force or better intelligence, but just dominating everybody and taking control. Now the reactionaries, 471 00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:55,260 the right marginalists, they believe that the universe is expanding out and away from the original 472 00:51:55,260 --> 00:52:01,580 big bang. And in fact, all the, all the elements are disintegrating, but they believe that when you get 473 00:52:01,580 --> 00:52:06,940 to the point where every single element on the periodic table has disintegrated into its respective 474 00:52:06,940 --> 00:52:14,300 in Koi quantum fields, and it expands to that particular point, what will happen is the impetus of the big bang 475 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:15,980 will have been exhausted. 476 00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:23,660 And that there'll be this stasis, a moment of stasis in the bonding attraction that every single unit has for every other one 477 00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:31,420 will then take over. And there'll be this moment, this micro moment of stasis, and then it'll all start coming back together again. 478 00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:38,060 And all of those in Koi quantum fields will start joining together to form leptons and muons and, and, uh, 479 00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:46,540 and squarks and electrons and protons and neutrons and stars and galaxies, uh, and living conscious beings 480 00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:52,300 that are a function of this particular process. And that, that they will all continue to come back together 481 00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:59,260 tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter until they all just, they all collapse back into the point where 482 00:52:59,260 --> 00:53:05,020 every single in Koi quantum field in the entire universe is in direct physical contact with every 483 00:53:05,020 --> 00:53:11,020 other one. And that's the little pinhead you keep hearing about all the time that the, that these 484 00:53:11,020 --> 00:53:16,940 astrophysicists talk about the entire universe exists at the size of a pinhead. Remember that one? 485 00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:23,900 And then what happens, they believe is that the polarity at that point just reverses. And what happens is it 486 00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:29,820 explodes again, not, not exposed from the middle out. It's every single ultimately irreducible 487 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:36,060 integer of matter in the entire physical universe repels every other one. And it generates another 488 00:53:36,060 --> 00:53:41,340 big bang. And so you get this big bang that occurs again, and it starts to expand out and create 489 00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:46,780 galaxies and universes and living entities and conscious beings that relate to the universe. 490 00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:52,300 And that it goes again. This is what they call the oscillating cosmos. This is the, what they call 491 00:53:52,300 --> 00:54:00,460 the magnumonis, the grand year of the reactionary worldview. And it repeats over and over and over 492 00:54:00,460 --> 00:54:06,780 again. And they believe that it's all very mechanical. It's just kind of predestined to kind of go like 493 00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:12,140 that. And what, what they think therefore is that you, their motive ethical reasoning is, is that it's not 494 00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:17,580 like, like the motive ethical reasoning of the right systematists that everything is chaos and that you 495 00:54:17,580 --> 00:54:23,420 have to just assert your power and control and get control of an otherwise chaotic universe and impose 496 00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:28,780 your will on it. What the reactionaries believe is that what you have to do is you have to get on one 497 00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:35,420 side or another of a dialectic because that they can tell is going on. There is this dialectical process 498 00:54:35,420 --> 00:54:41,740 going on, expanding and contracting. And so therefore their motive ethical reasoning is get on one side of 499 00:54:41,740 --> 00:54:49,180 a dialectic or another and thereby lend meaning to your life. You know, it's yin and yang and it's black 500 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:54,620 and white. It's good guys, it's bad guys, it's red team, it's blue team. You know, it's, you know, 501 00:54:54,620 --> 00:55:02,860 it's Republicans, it's Democrats. And, and what we see is that our culture in Western civilization is very much 502 00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:11,340 attached to this, this reactionary paradigm right now. That everybody goes crazy over San Francisco 49ers 503 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:16,540 playing, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs or the New York Yankees playing the, the Boston Red Sox, 504 00:55:16,540 --> 00:55:23,100 or, you know, the, the, the Oakland, uh, Golden State Warriors, you know, playing the, the Bucks 505 00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:29,100 or something. And, and they just train you to it. They people, they bring people up your entire lives 506 00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:35,340 dedicated to this dialectic and that people, people who can't find any other meaning in their lives 507 00:55:35,340 --> 00:55:40,300 go crazy in the stands, you know, and they put big spikes on their head and they wear all these 508 00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:46,940 crazy costumes and they, they drink, you get totally crocked and they eat meat like mad and they go and 509 00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:53,820 fight these, you know, I'm telling you that what I'm saying is that this, this, this, uh, reactionary 510 00:55:53,820 --> 00:56:00,860 paradigm, this dialectical paradigm is extraordinarily strong, uh, in that they unconsciously believe in the 511 00:56:00,860 --> 00:56:07,260 oscillating cosmos and that there's no meaning to, to life at all, unless you're on one side or another 512 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:12,380 of a fundamental dialectic. And that's how you derive all of your, your meaning out of life. 513 00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:18,700 Of course, this is Hegel. Hegel is the philosopher of the second paradigm, the dialectical materialism 514 00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:24,940 that you hear about that. Uh, now the, what, what are the other views of this? You go, you go over to 515 00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:31,020 the, uh, all the way over to the, to the seventh paradigm, the, in this, in this case, the, the, uh, 516 00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:39,740 the left system at this worldview. And what they believe is that there is an infinite and an infinite 517 00:56:39,740 --> 00:56:49,260 and eternal sea of absolutely undifferentiated consciousness that abides. 518 00:56:49,260 --> 00:56:57,500 And that there is this event that takes place that is in fact taking place at every single 519 00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:06,140 microsecond because time doesn't exist in that field of the setting up of a, of a, uh, a 520 00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:13,500 perturbance inside the otherwise completely, uh, uh, undifferentiated field of consciousness. A 521 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:21,740 differentiation occurs, uh, uh, a, a, and, and so that what happens is that this differentiation 522 00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:28,700 sets up a polar event of a, in, in that there's an, a, there's a desire to get back to a completely 523 00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:34,940 unified, uh, consciousness. And so that there's a reaching out of one end of this differentiation 524 00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:41,580 to the other, which generates the original wave of energy in the universe. And then it's, 525 00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:48,140 it comes back together again and manifests as a potential Higgs boson, an actual particle of mass. 526 00:57:48,140 --> 00:57:53,980 And this process starts to go on and there's this kind of, kind of, uh, mitosis that takes place 527 00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:59,500 and it just keeps on going, going, going, going, going. And it actually, uh, generates the material 528 00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:05,660 universe. But it's important to remember the universe, all of these material entities is made up 529 00:58:05,660 --> 00:58:12,860 of consciousness. That it's just a condensation of consciousness in the universe. And so therefore, 530 00:58:12,860 --> 00:58:17,740 it's not a matter of there being a consciousness that exists just outside of the perimeters 531 00:58:17,740 --> 00:58:24,060 of the sum total of mass and energy in the universe. The universe itself is pervaded with consciousness. 532 00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:30,940 That every single, every single, uh, inchoic quantum field in the entire universe is in fact conscious. 533 00:58:30,940 --> 00:58:36,380 Uh, and that, that, and you start putting more and more of them together and they actually, 534 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:41,420 this is an ontological issue, is that somehow a certain number of them come together and what 535 00:58:41,420 --> 00:58:46,620 they do is they end up having a collective consciousness. And they actually view, they experience 536 00:58:46,620 --> 00:58:52,060 themselves as having a consciousness that incorporates a whole bunch of these inchoic quantum fields. 537 00:58:52,780 --> 00:58:57,340 Uh, and then you get these little single organisms, uh, living organisms that are conscious and they 538 00:58:57,340 --> 00:59:02,700 actually can decide to kind of move around, you know, in the ocean and stuff. And that they can, 539 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:06,940 and they get more and more complex. This is what Teilhard de Chardin talks about at length, 540 00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:13,260 is the complexification of life as it evolves teleologically up into higher and higher forms. 541 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:18,300 And that there's this whole process that's going on. And so therefore, this left systematist 542 00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:26,300 worldview is the, almost the classic theological worldview because they, they, in attempting to 543 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:30,780 communicate this extraordinarily sophisticated understanding to people at a time in the 544 00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:37,020 middle ages, when 99% of the people were completely illiterate, couldn't read, never saw anything, 545 00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:42,860 a book of any kind, uh, and never even moved more than 50 miles away from the spot that they were born. 546 00:59:42,860 --> 00:59:48,700 You know, and so that the effort to try to communicate this kind of extraordinarily subtle 547 00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:56,380 insight, uh, into the ultimate nature of reality started anthropomorphizing the infinite and eternal. 548 00:59:57,340 --> 01:00:02,540 But at the same time, the mystics in that whole realm will keep saying, you cannot nounify, 549 01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:11,900 you cannot nounify the infinite and eternal. It is heresy. If you try to give a name to this 550 01:00:12,460 --> 01:00:20,540 and nounify it, you are ruined because you completely misunderstood what the reality is here. 551 01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:28,460 Because it is not a noun. It's a verb. And in fact, it's a non-transitive verb of being. 552 01:00:29,580 --> 01:00:35,340 All right. And that there is a, you can't even think of it in terms of there being a relationship 553 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:46,540 between it and us. Us is it. We am it. You know, uh, and, and I am that I am. 554 01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:53,820 That's what this is. So you, so you get this, this completely different cosmological assumption 555 01:00:54,540 --> 01:01:01,180 about how the universe came into being and how it's unfolding and what, toward what ends it's 556 01:01:01,180 --> 01:01:07,180 unfolding. Okay. And so that you, you begin to see that these different cosmological assumptions 557 01:01:07,180 --> 01:01:12,780 and different teleological assumptions generate an entirely different mode of ethical reasoning. 558 01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:20,300 And so the reason that I raise all of this is so that you'll be familiar with the fact when I, when I 559 01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:28,940 tell you that the, the adherence to these different worldviews have a very different idea about global 560 01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:36,220 climate change. Okay. The, the, the authoritarians, they view the scientific information about the 561 01:01:36,220 --> 01:01:42,780 existence of global climate change as an inherent threat. It's a threat to their control. It's a 562 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:48,780 threat to their continued domination and control of the, of the world through their ownership 563 01:01:48,780 --> 01:01:55,500 of oil and gas and coal and the military instrumentalities that run off fossil fuels 564 01:01:55,500 --> 01:02:01,180 that they use to dominate the world. Okay. And they've created this idea of money, 565 01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:06,860 which they created, you know, and they try to pretend they created it for our, for our benefit. 566 01:02:06,860 --> 01:02:11,900 So, cause it's easier than carrying around bushels of wheat and apples to exchange and barter, 567 01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:17,660 but it's not, they created it. So they control it. Right. And they, they manipulate it. They, 568 01:02:17,660 --> 01:02:24,700 and they become super multimillionaires, uh, by, by doing it and lending the money. And so the, 569 01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:32,940 the whole idea of, of global climate change coming on and threatening the continued utilization of fossil 570 01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:39,900 fuels on which they have cast their lot for controlling the world is experienced as another 571 01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:47,180 threat, another type of chaos. Uh, and so what they do is they react to it and they, they try to crush the 572 01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:53,980 people that are involved in it. Okay. And now the reactionaries, the reactionaries, what they believe, 573 01:02:53,980 --> 01:03:02,060 you know what they believe, they believe that, well, it's a hoax by China, right? That our adversary, 574 01:03:02,060 --> 01:03:09,100 our ultimate other, our dialectic opponent is faking all this because they're trying to undermine our basic 575 01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:15,900 industrial base, uh, in the world. And so that they just say that it's a hoax perpetrated by China. 576 01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:22,700 All right. And so that, and then, and then the, the, uh, the conservatives, uh, they, they keep 577 01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:28,780 arguing that, well, maybe it's just part of the natural cycle, right? They love this one. It's just 578 01:03:28,780 --> 01:03:33,180 part of the natural cycle. Oh, there were ice ages and there were, you know, ice fields and, you know, 579 01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:37,820 now they're just kind of melting and we're going back to a different stage. And, you know, so they have 580 01:03:37,820 --> 01:03:43,820 a very conservative attitude about the whole thing. Uh, and the, and the, and the moderates were 581 01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:49,260 basically agnostic about the whole thing. They just advise that we take incremental steps. 582 01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:53,660 Let's, let's try to do something about cutting back on the amount of fossil fuel that we use, 583 01:03:53,660 --> 01:03:58,860 but, you know, let's make sure that the people who own all the fossil fuels can own the alternative 584 01:03:58,860 --> 01:04:04,380 sources of energy as well. So that BP can move into, you know, creating alternative energy and doing 585 01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:09,580 windmills and, and, uh, you know, generating solar panels and stuff. As long as we take it nice and 586 01:04:09,580 --> 01:04:15,020 slowly, we can convert all the way into this. I mean, that's, that's the moderates way of dealing 587 01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:21,180 with it. The liberals classic, like Obama, Obama says, look, we're confronted by the scientists saying 588 01:04:21,180 --> 01:04:29,180 that, you know, unless we reduce the annual amount of global greenhouse gas emissions, uh, by 70%, 589 01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:41,820 by 2030, we're completely wedded to total catastrophe by 70%. And so the Obama administration proposes, 590 01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:48,700 how about 33%, how about 33%, that'll work, you know, cause we might be able to get away with that 591 01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:54,540 one, uh, and maintain the funding that the democratic party gets from the oil and gas corporations, 592 01:04:55,180 --> 01:05:00,060 uh, and the insurance companies and the big pharma. Uh, let's just take it a little, you know, 593 01:05:00,060 --> 01:05:05,500 just, it's like, it's like saying someone is getting set to be killed in an hour, a hundred miles away. 594 01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:10,460 And so let's drive our car 50 miles an hour to get there, you know, that isn't going to happen. 595 01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:16,540 Uh, and they know it. Uh, and yet they are so hooked into the liberal, the classic liberals, 596 01:05:16,540 --> 01:05:22,460 the liberals believe that they have to stay wedded to the transnational corporate capitalist economic 597 01:05:22,460 --> 01:05:28,540 system as the major mechanism for developing and distributing the major resources in the world. 598 01:05:28,540 --> 01:05:32,620 Uh, and there are certain people that benefit from that system and there are others who gain 599 01:05:32,620 --> 01:05:37,580 some trickle down benefits from it, et cetera. And, uh, the liberals are perfectly willing to go along 600 01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:43,260 with that. Uh, and so you see this happening now that the structures, the democratic and republican 601 01:05:43,260 --> 01:05:47,980 structures, what's happened is when we got to the end of the cold war with the dissolution of the 602 01:05:47,980 --> 01:05:55,580 Soviet union on December 31st of 1991, what happened is the robber barons that had been 603 01:05:55,580 --> 01:06:01,420 in power from the end of the civil war, 1868, all the way to 1898, the whole robber baron era, 604 01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:06,540 which even high schools teach as the age of imperialism and the, in the age of the robber 605 01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:11,420 barons and go on and on and on about how they had all these, these mills where people were being 606 01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:15,660 chained to the machines to work, you know, 12 hour days. And, and the women that were in the sewing 607 01:06:15,660 --> 01:06:19,660 factories, they couldn't go to the bathroom more than once a day, you know, all that kind of stuff 608 01:06:19,660 --> 01:06:27,420 that that was in full flower up until the end of the first world war. Okay. When the Soviet Union 609 01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:34,540 with the Bolsheviks rose up in October of 1917 and established a, a worldwide socialist revolution 610 01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:39,820 to try to confront the imperialists and the capitalists that were, were trying to take over 611 01:06:39,820 --> 01:06:45,420 the whole world, uh, for their corporations, you know, perfectly obvious. They were very clear 612 01:06:45,420 --> 01:06:50,540 about what they were doing. Mark Hanna, who was the major political advisor for McKinley in the 1898 613 01:06:50,540 --> 01:06:55,420 election, they asked him, you know, what would you advise a young boy, you know, ignoring all the 614 01:06:55,420 --> 01:07:01,420 women, of course, what would you advise, what would you advise a young boy to do in life? I suggest he 615 01:07:01,420 --> 01:07:06,300 make as much money as he possibly can before he dies. Oh, well, there's a great thing. There's a, 616 01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:11,340 there's a big life view, you know, but that's the way they were. And so what happened is that when 617 01:07:11,340 --> 01:07:16,620 the socialist revolution came on and it got totally sideswiped by Stalin and taken over and turned into 618 01:07:16,620 --> 01:07:22,300 an authoritarian communist regime, you know, it was total crap. But the bottom line is, is that as soon 619 01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:30,380 as Gorbachev stepped out of this dialectic that had been going on for 75 years, as soon as they stepped 620 01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:36,940 out of that, the robber barons just came rushing back, you know, in full flower and said, let's get 621 01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:41,100 back to it. There's been this hiatus in our ability to kind of take over the whole world and run it 622 01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:48,620 according to our best interests. You know, what it means is we have to infuse this discussion 623 01:07:49,420 --> 01:07:58,140 about global climate change with a spiritual message that this isn't just a political confrontation 624 01:07:58,140 --> 01:08:05,020 between authoritarian capitalism and, you know, socialism. It cannot be that. If they're both 625 01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:12,060 just completely secular, uh, non-spiritual combat, you know, this is going to be mayhem for our country. 626 01:08:12,060 --> 01:08:17,900 What we have to do is infuse the entire movement for, to stop global climate change with a genuine 627 01:08:17,900 --> 01:08:23,340 spiritual vision. So, so the question that arises is what spiritual vision is that going to be? 628 01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:29,980 And I'm suggesting that we have to be extremely careful. You cannot go to just the left systematist, 629 01:08:30,620 --> 01:08:35,260 uh, theological worldview. And moreover, it's prohibited by the first amendment. 630 01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:41,660 You cannot have the state, like we're, our office is drafting the California green new deal. 631 01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:47,340 Okay. The, uh, the democratic central committee, as you know, the democratic party has two thirds of 632 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:51,900 the members of the, of the state assembly and two thirds of the, of the state Senate. So they have 633 01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:56,620 super majorities in both houses. We have the best chance here in California to get a genuine green 634 01:08:56,620 --> 01:09:05,100 new deal passed. So, uh, well, uh, uh, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, uh, and, uh, and, uh, the, the 635 01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:12,620 Markey had Markey have put in a nine page bill, you know, HR 109 in the house of representatives 636 01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:17,980 and, uh, and others have put in similar four or five page proposals. You know, we, we have, 637 01:09:17,980 --> 01:09:26,380 we have, uh, actually a, a 50, a 50 page, uh, outline, uh, of the bill somewhere here. Uh, 638 01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:33,820 here it is. Uh, we, that our office has put together a, a 50 page outline, which I have 639 01:09:33,820 --> 01:09:43,260 completely mislaid. Uh, so, but, but we actually have a 350 page draft of the bill, uh, in details. 640 01:09:43,260 --> 01:09:49,900 And, and it covers, it covers, uh, 13 different sectors from transportation to waste water, to, uh, 641 01:09:49,900 --> 01:09:55,740 agriculture, to electricity, generating electricity, et cetera. This is not just a whole bunch of 642 01:09:55,740 --> 01:10:03,100 abstract principles. It's very concrete program as to how you get there. Okay. But again, this is that, 643 01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:10,060 this has to be advocated from a non theological point of view, because if you're going to exercise 644 01:10:10,060 --> 01:10:14,460 power on behalf of the state, whether it's the state of California and the state legislature 645 01:10:14,460 --> 01:10:19,420 and the governor's office, or whether, whether it, uh, it ends up being, oh, here it is. Here's my 646 01:10:19,420 --> 01:10:25,180 little thing. So here's, here's our 50 page, uh, outline of the whole thing with the 13 different 647 01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:31,340 areas of water and waste management and electrical energy and agriculture, forest management and 648 01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:36,300 forest fire management, education, the green workforce, you know, to having like a green new deal 649 01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:41,020 to employ the people that move from the, from the other industries, you know, that we've, we've got 650 01:10:41,020 --> 01:10:48,780 this, uh, uh, working right now, but what we have to do is we have to field a group of people who are 651 01:10:48,780 --> 01:10:56,220 going to be espousing the enactment of this, not for simply just political reasons, but for genuine 652 01:10:56,220 --> 01:11:03,420 spiritual reasons. And it is the sixth paradigm is this new quantum paradigm. There's just right at 653 01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:08,700 the edge of sort of coming into being. It's the new paradigm that the entire kind of, uh, new age 654 01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:12,700 community is talking about. They're talking about it at the California Institute for Integral Studies. 655 01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:17,260 They're talking about it at IONS, you know, the Institute of Neumatic Science, that they're all, 656 01:11:17,260 --> 01:11:21,100 I don't know what it is they're all being so shy about, you know, but I mean, it's a classic radical 657 01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:28,300 monist worldview. It's a sixth paradigm, uh, quantum worldview, uh, realizing that, that the plenum, 658 01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:33,580 you know, that the, the, the field of inquiry, quantum fields that are blinking on and off every 659 01:11:33,580 --> 01:11:38,780 microsecond, you know, uh, can actually be influenced by directed intention of our human 660 01:11:38,780 --> 01:11:44,700 family. And we can actually manifest the next microsecond of reality consistent with our intention, 661 01:11:44,700 --> 01:11:51,020 uh, fueled by love and affection and an experiential sense of oneness. You know, we, we represent the 662 01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:57,020 Lakota people, as you know, uh, up in North Dakota and you, you talk to the shamans and they'll say, 663 01:11:57,020 --> 01:12:02,780 you know, Christians, you guys are really funny. Uh, you guys pray for rain and it doesn't rain. 664 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:10,780 You know, what you have to do is you have to be the rain. You have to be the rain and the rain 665 01:12:10,780 --> 01:12:16,140 rains, you know? And if you don't understand that, you don't understand the new paradigm. 666 01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:22,060 You know, there's no, there's no dialectical relationship between the infinite and eternal. 667 01:12:22,060 --> 01:12:29,020 That this is an organic thing. And we're not invoking, we're not invoking the intervention 668 01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:36,220 of the infinite and eternal to support this. What we're doing is engaging the planet, 669 01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:45,180 which is a living organism of which we're an integral part. We have been generated by the planet. 670 01:12:46,060 --> 01:12:52,460 We've been generated by the planet. We are intimately related with the planet. And so 671 01:12:52,460 --> 01:12:58,860 therefore we have to take care of the planet just as though it's a child. We have to have the same 672 01:12:58,860 --> 01:13:05,660 kind of affection, the same kind of caring for the planet. And this is the new paradigm. And it relates 673 01:13:05,660 --> 01:13:12,860 very clearly to indigenous views, which, which are known as pantheist. Uh, this, this other thing, 674 01:13:12,860 --> 01:13:18,220 the theistic point of view is what they call panentheism. It's different. You don't spend a 675 01:13:18,220 --> 01:13:24,220 lot of time worrying about it, but, but pantheism, pantheism is what the Catholic church for so long 676 01:13:24,220 --> 01:13:31,260 condemned as paganism. And the, and the Catholic church is now moving. Uh, the fact is Francis wrote, 677 01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:38,300 the Pope Francis wrote the papal encyclical, Laudato Si, you know, back in June of 19, of 2015. 678 01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:43,260 And the, the right wing bishops are going crazy with their hair on fire saying, Ooh, 679 01:13:43,260 --> 01:13:48,380 this is pantheism. You know, this is paganism. You know, he's, he's actually talking about the 680 01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:55,340 planet having a spirit, you know, that, that we relate to. Yeah. Right. You know, that's right. Uh, 681 01:13:55,340 --> 01:14:01,500 you know, uh, and, and, and so that what we, what I'm suggesting we do as well, all of the, 682 01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:07,580 all of us can be extraordinarily positive about the seventh paradigm, the theistic paradigm that we 683 01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:13,420 talked about and even be extraordinarily open to the eighth paradigm of what the worldview is that 684 01:14:13,420 --> 01:14:20,220 we're going to have to adopt in order to understand that we in fact are not only not any longer at the 685 01:14:20,220 --> 01:14:26,940 center of the physical universe, but we're not even at the apex of the, the pyramid of all conscious 686 01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:34,140 beings in the universe. We have been displaced now by another highly intelligent and highly 687 01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:40,460 technologically developed, but distinctly non-human civilization. And we have to come to grips with 688 01:14:40,460 --> 01:14:52,140 that, but not yet, not yet. Uh, because, because we've got this incredible emergency in front of us 689 01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:57,100 right now. And so we're going to have to look to the new paradigm, the sixth paradigm, the quantum 690 01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:02,620 worldview, the one that's all being talked about by all of us in the new age community here, uh, and talk 691 01:15:02,620 --> 01:15:08,940 about this. We can all work very hard to get ready for the new paradigm, the, the genuinely new paradigm 692 01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:14,620 of the eighth paradigm, you know, when, and as you know, the, the churches and others have all talked 693 01:15:14,620 --> 01:15:19,820 about the fact that, that we are now going to encounter the existence of an extraterrestrial 694 01:15:19,820 --> 01:15:24,940 intelligence much, much sooner than we had ever anticipated because of the discovery of all of the 695 01:15:24,940 --> 01:15:29,660 exoplanets that we're going to, I know how they're going to do this. They're going to roll it in 696 01:15:30,380 --> 01:15:34,860 with the discovery of the new exoplanets. They're going to find one exoplanet. Oh, now they've 697 01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:38,940 discovered water on Mars. And what do you know? Oh, there's some remnants of water on the moon, 698 01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:42,860 which they were adamant there wasn't any such thing, you know, and now they've realized there are 699 01:15:42,860 --> 01:15:47,260 planets, which they weren't even willing to acknowledge, which tells you something, uh, about 700 01:15:47,260 --> 01:15:51,660 them. But they now acknowledge there are other planets. They're going to discover, you know, some 701 01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:57,100 microbe of life, you know, underneath the ice and some moon of some distant planet. And then they're going to 702 01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:02,380 start discovering more and more evolved forms of life. And they're going to try to go another 703 01:16:02,380 --> 01:16:08,460 entire generation of slowly feathering in the existence of life. You're going to try to completely 704 01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:13,740 ignore all the UFOs, all the encounters that everyone's had. They don't want to have to come 705 01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:18,380 to grips with what they've been doing and concealing it and lying about it and punishing people for their 706 01:16:18,380 --> 01:16:22,460 experience and trying to get them declared to be insane and everything else that they've done. 707 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:26,620 They don't want to come to grips with that. You know, they want to just look to the exoplanets 708 01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:31,660 as a source of life. And so they're going to spend another generation getting us ready for this whole 709 01:16:31,660 --> 01:16:37,020 thing, you know, so that that's down the line. Okay. And that worldview, we have to work on that 710 01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:43,100 worldview to discuss the profound philosophical, theological implications of our being dislocated 711 01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:49,820 from the peak of the pyramid of conscious life in the universe. But not yet, not yet. 712 01:16:50,380 --> 01:16:54,540 We've got to get to the issue of global climate change. And we've got to come and embrace the 713 01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:59,420 sixth paradigm worldview, the radical quantum worldview. We've got to understand that it's 714 01:16:59,420 --> 01:17:05,580 our collective intention, motivated by love and affection for our planet as an organism 715 01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:11,420 out of which we arise. And that there's an intimate, integral, organic relationship that we have to the 716 01:17:11,420 --> 01:17:19,500 planet. And that we have to work to save ourselves and to save our planet. In fact, a huge majority of the 717 01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:23,980 people that have encountered the extraterrestrial beings are saying, they keep trying to tell you 718 01:17:23,980 --> 01:17:28,060 this. They keep trying to say, you've got to stop polluting the planet. You've got to stop, 719 01:17:28,060 --> 01:17:32,700 you know, ruining your whole climate on your planet. They've been saying this now for decades. 720 01:17:33,260 --> 01:17:39,980 Okay. So, so, you know, that whole UFO community thing that we're involved in, it also bears out what 721 01:17:39,980 --> 01:17:45,660 we're saying. But, but we, we cannot do the heavy lifting to have to establish such a completely 722 01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:51,500 radical brand new worldview. We need to go to the sixth paradigm worldview. We've got to flesh out 723 01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:57,420 all the implications of this quantum worldview for our theology, for our economics, for our philosophies. 724 01:17:57,420 --> 01:18:03,980 This is what we've got to do. Okay. So this is the new paradigm. That's why I'm advocating that we 725 01:18:03,980 --> 01:18:09,500 work together to flesh out the details of the new paradigm and relate it directly to the need to save 726 01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:18,220 our planet and to, to move a spiritual vision into place to supplement the strictly political and economic 727 01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:25,660 issues. Because the fact of the matter is they're not working because the opponents of this are 728 01:18:25,660 --> 01:18:30,220 completely dug in and they've got access to the media. They've got access to the money. 729 01:18:30,220 --> 01:18:35,500 They've got access to the political power, then the military power. What we have is spiritual power. 730 01:18:36,140 --> 01:18:41,900 And it's a secret resource that we have. And we need to, we need to bring it to the fore. 731 01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:46,780 We need to strengthen it. We need to reach out and we need to supplement all the work we're doing. 732 01:18:46,780 --> 01:18:52,940 You know, our, our, our office is, is doing the, the outline of it. We're doing the details of it. 733 01:18:52,940 --> 01:18:57,900 We're in communication with the democratic central committee of California. You know, that, that 734 01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:03,980 we're, we're doing all the nuts and bolts. That's why you have lawyers. So you can do that. You know 735 01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:10,060 what the nuts and bolts are that have to get done. But what we need to do here is bring the spiritual 736 01:19:10,060 --> 01:19:18,460 vision of the new paradigm behind the need to save our planet, to save our species. Remember all species 737 01:19:18,460 --> 01:19:27,420 don't survive. All species don't survive. So the, the, the, the dice are rolling right now as to 738 01:19:27,420 --> 01:19:32,380 whether we're going to, whether we have contaminated our own bed, whether we've destroyed our own planet, 739 01:19:32,380 --> 01:19:37,020 our entire ecosystem, you know, the, despite the warnings that the extraterrestrial beings have 740 01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:43,020 been given to us for decades, we've got to change. We've got to move and we've got to understand what 741 01:19:43,020 --> 01:19:49,660 this new paradigm is and what the, what the philosophical and, and spiritual basis is that 742 01:19:49,660 --> 01:19:54,700 we can bring to the discussion of the green new deal. So that's what I'm proposing here. And 743 01:19:54,700 --> 01:20:00,060 that's the relationship between the awakening to the new paradigm and the passage of the green new deal. 744 01:20:00,060 --> 01:20:05,740 So there I am with one minute. 745 01:20:05,740 --> 01:20:15,740 Thank you. 746 01:20:15,740 --> 01:20:17,740 Thank you. 747 01:20:17,740 --> 01:20:19,740 Thank you. 748 01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:21,740 Thank you. 749 01:20:21,740 --> 01:20:23,740 Thank you. 750 01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:25,740 Thank you. 751 01:20:25,740 --> 01:20:27,740 Thank you. 752 01:20:27,740 --> 01:20:29,740 Thank you.