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Hey folks and welcome to another video from aplanetrue.info.

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We've got an incredible, incredible interview from a fire captain who also has been training

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fire captains who has experienced for over 30 years.

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This is one of at least two interviews we're doing with firemen, local firemen who are

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going on record, on record to tell us what happened in these fires in their version.

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But anyway, let's listen to Captain John Lord, he lives in Lake County, he's going

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on record, he's very brave and very smart man.

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This is his story about what he feels happened on the night of October 9th and what

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he has taken on from his professional of over 30 years experience happened in these fires

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here that started October 9th.

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Over the middle of the night, 80 mile an hour winds whipped up nowhere, blue lights everywhere

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and caused over 2,000, 3000,000 degree temperatures and took up over in this area over 4700

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homes but their fires going on everywhere folks.

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Alright, Mr. John Lord, here we go.

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What is your career?

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We're in November 1st, Santa Rosa, California, we're here with Captain John Lord and

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John's going to tell us about his experiences from since the fires began October 9th,

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John.

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So October 9th, my sister was up at my house in Lakeport and they left around 5 o'clock

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in the afternoon and I texted her a couple of times as they were driving home.

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This is Sunday night.

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Sunday afternoon.

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Not realizing anything was going on and talked with her the next day and she said that

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the winds, as when she went home, they went down through an app with ballet.

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The winds were like nothing that she had ever experienced.

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They were in a half ton, Chevy Tahoe and it was loaded.

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So it had gear in the back so I had plenty of weight to it and she said they were being

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baffled it and blown all over the road.

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Fortunately her boyfriend was driving and he was absolutely shell-shocked by the time they

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got to Danville.

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He was so freaked out by the experience.

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And before we get into this, so what's your experience in background?

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My experience in background is that I have been in the parametical field over 40 years

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of the started in the Navy and November 1974 was in the medical field by early 1975

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and I got trained as a parametica before I got out of Navy and I did two and a half years

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with private ambulance in Concord and then took a job with Petaluma Fire Department

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on November I believe of 1981, September I think, 1981.

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So it's one of the original six-per-medics there hired there and Cross-Trained is a fire fighter.

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And during that time I was in there, I earned my associate degree in fire technology,

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a bachelor's degree in business management.

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I have my fire officer certification and was working on my chief officer certification

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when I retired.

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So I have about 28 years experience in the fire service.

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One of my new teachers, firefighters, are you having some teaching?

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I have about 25 years teaching new experience working with the parametica academy, the

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Fire Fighter 1 Academy, and the Fire Technology Program and myself and a friend of mine

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developed a course that is now standard practice for the state which is building construction

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for fire protection and began to roll that out.

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So about 25 years teaching experience.

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And you were showing us this big book out of awards and certifications.

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I mean, what are you most proud of as far as awards or achievements, still?

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Well, the thing I'm most proud of is new technologies that I brought into the Fire Service

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against greater diversity, which is an external cardiac pacing that was a mess project and

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involved multiple organizations that I worked with and kind of provided a leadership role

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in coordination and we were actually able to impact the state leadership to allow that to

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be added into expand the scope of practice.

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So anybody in the state of California that's using external pacing on cardiac patients is

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a result of my work and not just my work others worked on the project as well.

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I forget what the doctor's name was and San Francisco was also doing work on trial

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study bed.

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Our work was instrumental in getting them to add that skill to expand the scope of practice.

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I'm extremely extremely proud of that.

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I also led a task force in Sonoma County to build a quality improvement program and

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integrate it program within the county and I'm very proud of that work.

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And finally, the third thing is getting advanced life support services out of two

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our frontline engines and our truck in the city of Petalima.

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So we had to equipment when it was a paramedic assigned to the engine and they actually had

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the equipment to be able to work and provide that level of care.

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Gotcha.

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And so I'm going back to the night of the fire.

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So we're talking the afternoon, Sunday afternoon, the eighth, I believe.

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And I'm here in Santa Rosa and I didn't notice any change until about 10 30 at night.

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I mean, I wonder, you live nearby here until your daughter called, where were you aware

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of the weather was changing?

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It was my sister.

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Your sister, I'm sorry.

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We were aware anything was going on.

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Nothing going on in the light part.

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The winds were absolutely still and there was nothing going on.

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No evidence of any of their weather, any fronts coming in, anything like that.

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So when did you start to notice when did you first hear something was going on?

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When I first found out about it was the following morning.

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And phone call or?

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I connected with my sister.

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She told me what had happened.

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I became aware of the fires and started doing reconnaissance on them.

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Because we had in late port, if you look at a large map, we had basically fire around

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three sides of us.

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So kind of a triangular shape out there was fire all the way on the other end of the lake.

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The one in redwood valley was going on and then the one near in Massachusetts fire that

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burned in the Santa Rosa.

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Did you call mad in the morning and compare notes of what you guys were seeing?

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Not as at that point, no.

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So you were just trying to figure out what the heck's going on?

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No, I was just trying to figure out what the heck's going on.

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And when you talk to your sister down in Napa and got the heads up that there was some big

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winds in your feeling it.

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And then all of a sudden three fires are going on all around you.

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You turn on the news that Napa and Santa Rosa are also a blaze.

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I mean, I think you're up in the pocket fire that called it up there.

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Is that what they're calling it?

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Which fire was it?

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It was the road to the valley when I think they're calling the pocket fire.

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That's the pocket fire.

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And then the one on the other side of the lake was watching really close because it was burning

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into a cold sack formed by the lake itself.

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That was the prevailing winds were pushing in that direction.

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So it could only burn to the water.

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But what I was concerned about is if we got a wind shift and it hooked around and would

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burn down high with 20 toward Lake Park.

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So we was watching that one really close.

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When you started to see probably on TV, the devastation when they started showing these

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homes and complete destification of all the buildings, what were you thinking as a fireman?

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Well, I don't watch TV.

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Okay.

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I haven't watched TV in 25 years.

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So I get my information from the internet and I have my sources that I go to.

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And the first thing that I noticed, I think, was the rapidity of the fire movement,

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which seemed abnormally fast to me considering that there was no weather fronts or winds or

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anything that I was aware of that would have drew in the fires that quickly.

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And also the number of fires was extremely alarming.

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Where did all these fires come from?

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How did they all start at once?

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And so I started digging.

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And when I started digging, I started looking at the research that was available for direct

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energy weapons and what I started reading actual government documents that people had put

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up.

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There is people have put up on the website and looking at the destruction, which I had never

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seen in my career, the totality of the destruction on the structures.

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There was absolutely nothing left of the structures except foundation.

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Now, I've seen that with other fires, but not where it moves like that.

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Not where the fire is moving.

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And one side of the street, everything's fine.

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The other side of the street looks like a nuclear wars zone.

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You never seen anything like that.

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That other options could there be besides a high-torch directed energy weapon that you

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could consider as a possibility in your experiences of all the fire fighting even.

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There's none that I could think of.

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So this is the only plausible explanation that's being presented.

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A possible explanation in my opinion.

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That's the conclusion that I was brought to you based on my almost 30 years of experience.

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And you know that steel melts in thousands of degrees and all this and to see steel

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bent like that, but have vegetation and plant life and you pull it to trees.

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The holes that were burned through the heads of cars all the way through the engine block are a little

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bit suspicious.

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Isn't that crazy?

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Yeah.

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The aluminum on the ground and the melted to the ground where the guy was working over.

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That's not working over for.

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I've seen before.

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We had a tanker fire, a gasoline tanker fire, one on one.

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And those, the gasoline fuel is moved around in aluminum tanks like that thick aluminum

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tanks.

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And that one caught on fire and melt the aluminum like that.

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Right.

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So I have seen aluminum melt like that in a structure, a structure fire or other fire.

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Let's talk for a second about how a fire storm creates.

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And it's my understanding that a fire has to build its fuel and consume its oxygen to

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intensify over time as heat builds up over time.

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But we're having this fire storm.

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These fires happen in a matter of a couple hours and created thousands of degrees

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temperature without any provocation from fuel to build itself.

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It just happened, it seems like.

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Yeah.

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It seems like.

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Right.

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I mean, that's the only thing.

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It just happened over a couple hours and then it was just about how the fires were

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spreading.

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But the initial destruction was here there and everywhere and everything down to the

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bone of the homes.

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Literally where all this left is the fireplace.

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There's no iron tubs.

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There's no granite counters.

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I mean, we went through old redwood highway here and went mark rest.

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We were road.

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And it was just amazing how there's nothing left.

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I mean, nothing.

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Yeah.

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And the fires, you know, they were out there within a few hours.

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So what could have caused that?

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And the normal temperature of high and a fully involved structure fire is around 1100 degrees.

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That's normally what we consider operating fire conditions about 1100 degrees.

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The fact is that there's a lot of plastics inside households right now.

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So plastics liberate a lot more heat than woodwood about twice as much.

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Did you hear anything about blue lights being seen?

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Anybody saying that?

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I saw the I saw the photograph evidence on the internet.

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Did you see a herd of anybody else commenting that they've seen blue lights?

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Like they've been commenting on my site that I saw blue flashes.

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I saw it and other people have been saying it as well.

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Yeah, just some in passing.

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But I saw I saw actual photographs of people took from there or cell phones or cameras.

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All right.

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And then how do you feel about learning that the planning and zoning commission is having

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the exact same footprints nearly as these fires were in that now they're declaring some

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of these areas from a previous fire that could be deemed fire severe zone and maybe they

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shouldn't be rebuilt now.

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If you comment on that.

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Well, I guess my comment would be that I'm fully aware of a Jenna 21 and it doesn't surprise

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me one bit.

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And have you talked to other firemen as well about this?

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Are they on the same page as you or are they even questioning this or what are they thinking?

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Yes, two others.

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Two others.

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I talked directly about it and are we're all in agreement.

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That something very strange.

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You very unique and new has happened.

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Right.

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And have you been to tour the areas?

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Have you looked around at some of the areas?

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All need what I've seen on the internet from over here.

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Gotcha.

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And I just drove down one of ones so what I can see from the freeway.

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So what is just conjecture?

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What do you think these firemen who are looking at these fires they've never seen before?

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And talking among themselves.

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How do you think they're are they talking about it?

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What do you think they're?

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Because they never seen anything like it either.

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And you know, you know, listening that Berkeley engine number six that came up and they're

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holding journey through it.

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They were totally astounded when they could even set up a base station to start fighting

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from because everything was on fire.

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We have a hundred thousand square foot came out completely torsed by three AM in the

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morning where these fires left across at eight lanes of road and torsed to

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Kmart on the other side of the road.

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What kind of fire does that?

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And fully sprinkled building.

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Yeah, that's the other thing is California has one of the highest sprinkler laws in

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the country.

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Not natural phenomena.

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Unnatural phenomena.

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Like I said, I've never seen anything like it.

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The other thing is, as a month, some of the courses that I worked on, I taught a course

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co-toe with others.

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That's where this seizure comes from.

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We flew back to Florida twice and worked with these guys one time for a week and taught

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a course on fire, fire, fire, safety, and survival.

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And so I have done a lot of case studies on different fires, both while and a social

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fires where firefighters have been killed.

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I'm telling you, based on my studies of actual case studies that I've never seen anything

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like we just experienced in the California.

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So who would be responsible in the greatest fire in California history to make a determination

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of what went down now for the officials?

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Since we have no official story, three and a half almost weeks out, who should be making

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that call and letting everybody know what they believe happened?

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I think that that ultimately depends on how they bump it around within the government

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organizations and who they put charge of the lead on it.

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They won't come out and say directed energy weapons.

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They can.

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And so they're having a tornado fire of her bandied about Diablo winds, which I've lived

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in Northern California on my life.

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I never heard that term before until they just started throwing it out there.

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PG&E polls.

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Serial arsonist.

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Yeah, they have somebody who's saying there's some genes on fire on a road with matches

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in it.

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Things like that.

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But it's amazing that we're not even having the greatest fire in history, even a

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scenario being brought to the front about how this possibly could have happened.

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But yet over a hundred thousand people are lost their homes.

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And now they're meeting tomorrow with the EPA and FEMA who've moved into Santa Rosa

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along with the military police.

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And they're going to dictate what these people's lives are going to be going forward

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if we don't get to them and start helping them ourselves, right?

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Right.

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And you were talking about the spiritual journey.

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You want to talk about how this is a spiritual war?

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Do you want to get into that at all?

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Not really right now.

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But I would like to say to us is that my heart goes out to all those people that have

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been victimized by this fire and one way or another those that were lost.

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Those who were injured, those who lost property in their homes.

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And I don't know what's going to happen.

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But I think that as we as human beings and as a community come together that we can help

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one another more than anticipating any help from the government.

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And that's my two sons on it.

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And are you willing to go and talk with other firefighters and see if they can help out

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and other people can be brought up to speed that we need to come together as a community?

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Because my feeling is we just got attacked.

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I've got to find out.

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You got to understand nature of bees with firefighters.

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We love helping people.

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So, and that's what firefighters are all about.

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So, I know many, many just outstanding people in the service.

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So, not everybody's aware of what's going on.

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But that's the way it always goes.

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Well, and here are the first responders.

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That's what we always call you and all the letters and over the freeways.

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Thank you first responders.

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Now I want to thank you personally John for coming here.

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And also for all the career.

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And all you've done to help others and give.

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Because one thing I've learned about firemen is they get in the business because they want to help.

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They get in the business because they want to quote save lives.

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And their first responders that put themselves on the line.

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Here they go after a fire they've never seen before in the middle of night called.

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I mean, this had to be called the beast fire.

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I mean, this is so amazing what just happened here.

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Until you're actually seeing it and being around,

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you can't appreciate the devastation that went on in certain areas.

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And just over the hill completely normal natural everybody's back to everyday life.

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And so we have so many people that are displaced with the fire community,

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other first responders that want to build.

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We're, you know, out of the ashes going to get something better.

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But it's going to be a community organizing for not dictating from the federal government down to these people lost everything.

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And now they're being told they can't go back to their homes.

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And we're going to give them some opportunities because we care.

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And all of us are going to do it because we care and it's not going to be about us.

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We're going to join the firemen.

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We're going to join the other community leaders.

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But this is going to be exciting.

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And the spiritual part I was bringing that we're talking about earlier is,

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this is about empathy.

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This is about giving to the greater good of all.

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And this is what we're supposed to be all be about, I feel.

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And so with your giving and giving your time here to go on record,

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which is big, you know, thank you, John.

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And I mean, and thank you, uh, captain East Bay for your input as well.

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And hopefully this will shed a little light.

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And others will step forward and not be afraid to speak their truth about what they know.

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Because a lot of people have secrets.

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And we need to all come out now and we need to come together and really, you know,

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be the change we wish to see.

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So thank you, John, for your time really appreciate it.

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You're welcome.

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And there is all the one truth.

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There's the plain truth out. Thank you.

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Good job.