1 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Now then, here's something that really makes me angry. 2 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Look at this. This is Michael Tellinger. 3 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 This is the second book he wrote. 4 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 He says to Credo and Virginia, 5 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,000 thank you for being an inspiration to the... 6 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000 It's just a little call to aloep. 7 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 I am nobody's inspiration. 8 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 But look at this. 9 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Look at this. 10 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,000 These are the ruins of cities 11 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 spreading through South Africa. 12 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 There is a mystery about these cities. 13 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 You see the... 14 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 The... 15 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 The walls. 16 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 But say, what is the mystery? 17 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 There is... 18 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:43,000 There are no gates in all these walls. 19 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Roads like this one. 20 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 And dang, no way. 21 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Why? 22 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Again, look at this one. 23 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 This one is on the border between... 24 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Let's just let the camera see it. 25 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 The Free State and Lesotho. 26 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 And... 27 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 These are walls with no gates? 28 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Yes. 29 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 No entrances? 30 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 No. 31 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Why? 32 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,000 That's the greatest mystery of all, Mr. David. 33 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 These ancient people... 34 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 These ancient people said 35 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,000 could tame African elephants. 36 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,000 She, that woman, Kandake, 37 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 she used to capture 38 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,000 30 or more slave women. 39 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Black making slaves of black. 40 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 And... 41 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 This... 42 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,000 She used to feed human milk 43 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 to little baby elephants. 44 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Mr. David, the African elephant can be tamed 45 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 if you bring it up on human milk. 46 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,000 To say that the elephant is untamable is bullshit. 47 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,000 It can be tamed, and I know how it used to be. 48 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,000 And... 49 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,000 What is it about that book that makes you angry? 50 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Sir... 51 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 You said that that made you angry. 52 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 This book... 53 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 No, no, no. 54 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,000 The orange one. 55 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,000 The book that you're holding. 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,000 This one. 57 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Samples of the African Gods. 58 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 You said that Telenjul's book made you angry. 59 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Look at this. 60 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Look at this. 61 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 You know what this is? 62 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 This is a wall seen from the air. 63 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,000 And the shape of it is ubedu. 64 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 This white man doesn't know. 65 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 He says... 66 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Listen to this. 67 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Ah... 68 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 He says... 69 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 And there is... 70 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,000 There is a distinct example of the om shape here. 71 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Bullshit. 72 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Bullshit. 73 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 This is... 74 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:20,000 This is how the ancient Africans used to cast gold into necklaces. 75 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 You have seen them, Mr. David. 76 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 In Ireland, they are called toks. 77 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 This is a tok. 78 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Ubedu. 79 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,000 This kind of necklace was known in Africa. 80 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,000 And it was awarded to champions in sport. 81 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Always like this. 82 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 The people who are called the balubedu, 83 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 who are in the northern Transvaal, 84 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,000 their names means people of gold. 85 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 The gold processors. 86 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Look at this. 87 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,000 The fool says... 88 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Another distinct example of the om shape. 89 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,000 He sees Indians everywhere in the world. 90 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:24,000 This is symbolic of the unity between God in heaven and the earth below. 91 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,000 We call it tzalu. 92 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:34,000 And this white man just writes a lot of Kozwa-lopu. 93 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Really. 94 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:46,000 And there is a circle. 95 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,000 The gate ends nowhere. 96 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 You can't get into it. 97 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Oh yes, you could. 98 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 You could. 99 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 How could you get into it? 100 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Into it. 101 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 How could you get into it without a gate? 102 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 It's simple Mr. David. 103 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,000 You got yourself a big female elephant. 104 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 You can ride her. 105 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 She can pull a sled. 106 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,000 These roads were for elephants to walk through. 107 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,000 And an elephant, you stop her, 108 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 you get off her, 109 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 and you get inside. 110 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 It's simple. 111 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Elephants were not... 112 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 The African elephant was not untamable. 113 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 It was. 114 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,000 All this, all these walls, 115 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 you know now what he says? 116 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:56,000 He says these walls were some kind of energy generating device. 117 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Oh. 118 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 In a pig's eye it was. 119 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,000 And this man looked there. 120 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:16,000 That was an elephant which pulled a sled along this road. 121 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 That's how they made them? 122 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Yes. 123 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And then the elephant would stop at the end of the wall. 124 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:32,000 And it would be free of the sled. 125 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,000 And it was whistled to go back into... 126 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Hi, Furtak. 127 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Furtak. 128 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,000 What? 129 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 So basically... 130 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Yes, sir. 131 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Are you saying that Michael Tellinger's... 132 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 He's talking nonsense. 133 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 He's talking nonsense. 134 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Michael Tellinger... 135 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Hang on, hang on. 136 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Let's just wait till the dogs go. 137 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Yes, sir. 138 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 And then I'll ask you the question again. 139 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 You know, Michael Tellinger is a friend 140 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,000 of a white man who hates black people like poison. 141 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,000 You cannot be a scientist if you are a racist. 142 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 You will never judge. 143 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 You will never know. 144 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 This man... 145 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Wait. 146 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 I will show him. 147 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 This man sees red Indian... 148 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 sees Indian... 149 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:59,000 sees Indian influence in black Africa at every corner. 150 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:05,000 He is a racist who thinks that black people are stupid monkeys. 151 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,000 All this... 152 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Look at that. 153 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,000 He shows how wide and deep the roadways were. 154 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Someone... 155 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Someone... 156 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Someone has to correct this mistake. 157 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Af... 158 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Say, this is the cradle of civilization in Africa, 159 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 right here in South Africa. 160 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,000 All over there, if you fly in an aeroplane, 161 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 you see all these things, 162 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:56,000 and racist whites call these cattle corals. 163 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Bullshit. 164 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Look at this. 165 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:06,000 This is the lost knowledge of our people. 166 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,000 This man, from Nick, says, 167 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 these were... 168 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Oh, God. 169 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 He just makes me sick. 170 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,000 This is the great truth about Africa. 171 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:31,000 This, honorable ones, is where the star people came down. 172 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Look at this. 173 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Look at this. 174 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 What does this suggest to you? 175 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Come on, sir. 176 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Give us a real Mr. David Ike signs. 177 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Put me under pressure here. 178 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 We call it the South African Sphinx. 179 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Yeah. 180 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Shit. 181 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,000 It's more of an animal... 182 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 A bull and... 183 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Yes, sir. 184 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,000 This is the guardian of the South. 185 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 This is... 186 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 This is... 187 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 This is... 188 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:21,000 The bull who guards the South. 189 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 In ancient Phoenician, 190 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:31,000 this entity was called... 191 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:39,000 He was the god who guarded the southern regions of the world. 192 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:45,000 And here is something, honorable ones. 193 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:54,000 He rightly points out the alignment of these things. 194 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 And then... 195 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 This is not a lion. 196 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,000 A lion doesn't have a huge hump like this at the back. 197 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,000 This is a Brahman bull. 198 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,000 On the back of this bull, sir, 199 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:24,000 rituals were performed as recently as 1941. 200 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,000 A female sangoma and a male sangoma 201 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,000 used to ritual mate on the back of this creature 202 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:42,000 to unite heaven and earth. 203 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 I saw it being done. 204 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 I know that you have spoken... 205 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Yes, sir. 206 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 ...and met with Michael Tellinger about his work. 207 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 What did he say when you talked to him about these things? 208 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 You know, sir. 209 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 They just used my name. 210 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 My name is a commodity to them. 211 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 This man... 212 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Rom... 213 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 This man, Romnick... 214 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Wait, he's here somewhere. 215 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Ah! 216 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 You see this thing? 217 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:30,000 This is a huge, huge, huge plate of rock. 218 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 And on this plate of rock 219 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:40,000 are writings of how the star people descended to Earth. 220 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 It's right here in South Africa. 221 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Whereabouts? 222 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Sir? 223 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Whereabouts? 224 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Whereabouts in South Africa? 225 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 I tell you, 226 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 at Rickopts East Island near Kimberley. 227 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Not that far from here, then? 228 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 No, no. 229 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,000 What is it saying about the story of the star people? 230 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 You see these things, that one? 231 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 This one? 232 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 This? 233 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Yeah. 234 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,000 That's a mothership, sir. 235 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 And, wait... 236 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 It tells over hundreds of years 237 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,000 this incredible record 238 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:33,000 by a civilization that started in South Africa. 239 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 This... 240 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:41,000 This is what the Egyptians call a man. 241 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,000 The Egyptians call this thing, say, a ben-ben. 242 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 And Africans call it Ben-ben-unu. 243 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,000 It's like a pyramid. 244 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,000 It lands, and the people come out. 245 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Somebody has got to correct this mistake. 246 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,000 So, are you saying that perhaps the pyramids are... 247 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 are taken from the shape of the mothership? 248 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Yes, sir. They are ben-ben-unu. 249 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 And that's why they're that shape? 250 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Yes, sir. 251 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 And, wait, and look... 252 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Ah! Just look at this. 253 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Listen to what they say here. 254 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Right, perfectly carved holes in rocks. 255 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Many of these show metallic residue 256 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,000 around their edges, 257 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 as if they were used as crucibles 258 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 for molten metal. 259 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Yes, sir. 260 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Yes, sir. 261 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 But not all of them. 262 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Gold was poured there from a crucible. 263 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 The blacksmiths of South Africa, 264 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 the black men and women 265 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 who mined gold, 266 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,000 they practiced all kinds of strange rituals. 267 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 They did not cook food in pots, 268 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Mr. David, Mr. Nyoni. 269 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 You know what they did? 270 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 I can show it to you one time, 271 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 if I'm still around. 272 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 There is this hole in the rock. 273 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,000 These people were very, very, very 274 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,000 superstitious about how they handled metal. 275 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:56,000 They did not use a clay pot to cook food. 276 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 They filled a hole like this with water, 277 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:06,000 and then they hoated up rocks, 278 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 round stones, 279 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 almost like these that we see in the future. 280 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 They hoated these round stones, 281 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 and when it was hot, 282 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 you put it in the water, 283 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 and you don't allow it to cool. 284 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Put it in the water, 285 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 and then remove it and put another one. 286 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,000 You can cook food beautifully 287 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 by cooking it and throwing 288 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,000 round stones into such things. 289 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 These are stone tools. 290 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Mine workers, diggers of mine, 291 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,000 were not allowed to use metal tools. 292 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:11,000 You were not allowed to use a metal object 293 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 to dig for gold. 294 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,000 You had to use a stone out of respect. 295 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 All these. 296 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 How did the respect come in with stone 297 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 rather than metal? 298 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Because metal working people, 299 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:39,000 they felt guilty about taking metal from the stone. 300 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 So out of quality superstitions, 301 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:50,000 they used to use stone tools to dig for gold. 302 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000 You were not allowed to use metal, 303 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,000 to reap metal from the earth's matter. 304 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,000 You had to use a stone. 305 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Crader, is Michael Tellinger correct 306 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,000 about the date of what he calls Adam's calendar? 307 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 He thought that I think that they were 308 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 maybe even 60 or 70,000 years old. 309 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Is this correct? 310 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 They are older, sir. 311 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Much, much older. 312 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,000 These things, there is a strange story behind them. 313 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000 They were much, much, much older. 314 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Yes, Mr. Tellinger is a good writer, sir, 315 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,000 but there are some facts about Africans 316 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,000 and their beliefs that he does not know. 317 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:55,000 And him, this lonesome piece of white excrescence, 318 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 he hates me like a dog. 319 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Now, look, sir. 320 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Look at this. 321 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 This is a cooking device. 322 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 There it is again. 323 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Mine workers had to cook food out with stone. 324 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,000 There, there. 325 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Crucibles. 326 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Now, listen to this. 327 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:32,000 The Sumerian tablets tell us that the ancient people 328 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,000 of the Abzu, or Southern Africa, 329 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 were mining all kinds of minerals 330 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 many thousands of years ago, 331 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:49,000 long before conventional archaeology 332 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:55,000 seems to suggest, yes, he's right. 333 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,000 He's dead right. 334 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Our people mined gold. 335 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,000 And you know who did the mining, sir? 336 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000 No? 337 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 No? 338 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Women. 339 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 I knew you were going to say that, women, yes. 340 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Yes. 341 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,000 If a man took material from the Earth Mother, 342 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 it was rape. 343 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 He had to die, that man. 344 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Women worked here, sir. 345 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Women mined gold and other metals in Southern Africa. 346 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000 And was that mining connected to the Stal people, 347 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000 as Zafirai Sitchin has said? 348 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Dr. Sitchin is the wisest human being I've ever 349 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,000 had the honour to know from the East. 350 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 He is dead right. 351 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000 He is dead right. 352 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 People were obsessed with metal. 353 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 They thought it was alive. 354 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,000 That is why our name for metal, any metal, 355 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 is Ntsi Mbi. 356 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Ntsi Mbi means the fearful object, 357 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000 the fearful living object. 358 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Ntsi means fearful. 359 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 No, Ntsi means an object, 360 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000 other than stone or wood. 361 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 And Mbi means very evil, 362 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 something which must be treated with respect. 363 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,000 So you would agree that the Stal people 364 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,000 are the origin of mining for gold in this area? 365 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Yes, sir. 366 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 The people were doing it for them? 367 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Yes, sir. 368 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 It started in Swaziland, 369 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:10,000 where I had hoped one day we would go. 370 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,000 It started at the Bounvou Ridge. 371 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:21,000 The first metal that our people mined was not gold. 372 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:28,000 It was copper and later gold. 373 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,000 How far back are we going, Fredo, when the mining started? 374 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Too many thousands of years. 375 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,000 At the time of Antu. 376 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Antu was the goddess, the great mother, 377 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 the wife of Anu. 378 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Both words, Antu and Anu, mean human beings. 379 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000 African and Sumerian both. 380 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,000 It was the Bantu, the children of Antu, 381 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:14,000 who mined all this and who recorded all this history. 382 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 What is needed, sir? 383 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Somebody has got to put the record straight, Mr. David. 384 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Where is this man? Where is he? 385 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,000 They see hidden objects everywhere, 386 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000 as if there were no other people. 387 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:49,000 So you're saying that it wasn't that other cultures influenced Africans, 388 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 but that Africans influenced other cultures? 389 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Yes, they did. They did. 390 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:09,000 And if, Mr. David, if we were to study the Sumerian language, 391 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:20,000 100 out of every 100 words are still found here in South Africa. 392 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Antu, Anu, Banu, Vanu, all these are names for human beings. 393 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Antu means the children of Antu, of Untu, the god, 394 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,000 the mother goddess, Antu. 395 00:26:51,000 --> 00:27:00,000 And Anu means children of the god. 396 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,000 And these gods were black side, not white. 397 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 But it doesn't matter. 398 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000 A god is a god is a god, and he's nasty with you too. 399 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Whether he's white or black, he's still the same bloody black side. 400 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:23,000 So what's the connection between Sumer and that culture, 401 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,000 which conventional history calls the cradle of civilization, and Africa? 402 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000 You're saying Africa preceded it and influenced it massively? 403 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Yes, Africa preceded Sumer by many, many, many centuries. 404 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,000 And say, there is something, Mr. David. 405 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:54,000 You know, somebody has got to put the records straight coldly and fearlessly. 406 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:05,000 We black people, we were the mothers of the Sumerian civilization. 407 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:14,000 There is not a single word in Sumerian, but has an exact equivalent in Africa. 408 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:29,000 There is not a single word in ancient Egyptians, but has an exact parallel in... 409 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:45,000 We came, and for example, they call the salt, 410 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Zakaria Sikinse, repeatedly refers to the southern part of the world as the Abzu. 411 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:07,000 And the truth, the right pronunciation is not Abzu, as in animal zoo, no. 412 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000 It's Abzu. 413 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000 They pronounced the Z-U-S-ZU. 414 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,000 And that is an African word. 415 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:27,000 If we say this person is very dark-skinned, we say Um-ya-ma, too. 416 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000 But what? What? 417 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Uh-uh. 418 00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:20,000 There is someone in the loop. 419 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Look, sir, look at this. 420 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Mr. Tellinger says, one of the many stone walls that still stand close to three mete... 421 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:46,000 a section of a large ruin with a diameter of 150 meters, 422 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:59,000 a carved stone that resembles a human head, stands close by, as if it was part of some... 423 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Of course it was. 424 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:09,000 This is Anu, the great father of the human race, and his right hand of the brick. 425 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,000 So let's take this in kind of a sequence then, Fredel. 426 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Yes, sir. 427 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000 The Star People landed in Africa. 428 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Yes, sir. 429 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000 They started the mines and got the... 430 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,000 They enslaved the Black people whom they found there. 431 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:36,000 And it seems that that place on the border of Botswana, the Toledo Hills... 432 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Toteedlo. 433 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000 That's right. 434 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Yes, sir. 435 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,000 That was the place where humanity, as we know, was seeded? 436 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Yes, sir. 437 00:31:46,000 --> 00:32:08,000 Humanity landed there, directed by the great giant, Toteedlo, the place of a magic of... 438 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:21,000 And from there, the knowledge and the myths and the beliefs and the language went nort... 439 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000 Yes, sir. 440 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Yes, sir. 441 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Yes, sir. 442 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,000 Sir, please look at this. 443 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Doctor, listen to this. 444 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:55,000 We read that the Sumerian deity Dumuzi was buried in the deep Abduzhu on the edge of ... 445 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:15,000 This may yet become one of the most important historical discoveries that links human... 446 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Listen to this. 447 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:27,000 His father was the Sumerian deity Enki. 448 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Bullshit. 449 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Rubbish. 450 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000 Gag. 451 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,000 What is it? 452 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Say. 453 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Enki is known in Africa as Nkai or Ngai. 454 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:59,000 For people that have not studied this, in the Sumerian tablets, Enki and Enlil are suppo... 455 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Yes, sir. 456 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:12,000 We have to, Mr. David. 457 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 We have to. 458 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:30,000 I, at one time, I was hoping to work with scientists like Madam Brenda Sunipe. 459 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Every god was ever worshipped by the Sumerians. 460 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Every god had his origin here in Africa. 461 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,000 His or her name was Afrika. 462 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Let me tell you about the goddess Inanna. 463 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:18,000 In the fables of the Botswana people, in the fables of all tribes in East Africa and So... 464 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Not only that, in Africa, the, you know, all the gods which were worshipped in Africa,... 465 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000 The same, didn't they? 466 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Yes, sir. 467 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Ra. 468 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Ra, even today, amongst the Botswana people here, the name Ra means father. 469 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:11,000 And the oldest warlike goddess was in Egypt, Hato, or Hato, in South Africa. 470 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:21,000 She was known as Mahato, the mother of the great footprint. 471 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000 Is that the footprint you showed me once? 472 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,000 Yes, sir. 473 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000 That's six foot long, isn't it? 474 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Yes, sir. 475 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:37,000 And Mr. David, that footprint is the footprint of a woman, not a man. 476 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 How do we know? 477 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:54,000 If you are a tracker of people, you will notice that the instep of a woman's foot i... 478 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Africa gave the world its civilization. 479 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:13,000 You were telling a story earlier, and I kind of give a bit of historical context, about... 480 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Yes, sir. 481 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Enki in Africa is known as N'Gai, or N'Gai. 482 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:36,000 He is still worshipped even now, amongst the people of Kenya. 483 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:46,000 And there is another god, a deity, called Uru one time. 484 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Uru means old, or grand, or majestic. 485 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Uru. 486 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:09,000 And in Africa, you go to Zimbabwe, in Africa, the word for great is Kuru. 487 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,000 And in Zulu, you learn Kulu. 488 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:21,000 The word Kuru, or Kulu, also refers to a grandmother. 489 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:28,000 And here is another thing talking about grandmothers. 490 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:37,000 A grandmother is called Gogo in Zulu. 491 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,000 This immediately joins African language to Greek language. 492 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:52,000 The word Gogo means wise, old, leading person. 493 00:38:52,000 --> 00:39:02,000 And the word occurs also in Greece as Gogos. 494 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Gogos means a leader. 495 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:15,000 From this comes the English word Gogo, as pedagogue. 496 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:23,000 Do you have the equivalent of Enlil, the Sumerian, the brother of Enki? 497 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Yes. 498 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 And are they connected as brothers in African? 499 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 Yes, they are, Mr. David. 500 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Ah, if you, the word Enlil means lord of the voice, lord of the command. 501 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:53,000 And in the language of the Tortha, to issue a call to shout or to cry out is Lila. 502 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Immediately you are talking Sumerian, Lila. 503 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:05,000 To wail as at a funeral is Lila. 504 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:15,000 I talked to you over the years about your travels and how you found that you can... 505 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000 It's the whole field of Australia. 506 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:29,000 Are you saying that there was once one universal language, or at least a new... 507 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Yes, this is what I am saying, and I am saying that defiantly because it is true. 508 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,000 And Lila means to cry out. 509 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Enl means king. 510 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:55,000 And Lila means a shout or a voice shouting. 511 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:05,000 So if a man, a god is called Enlil, it means the lord of the commanding voice. 512 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:17,000 And Enlil had a wife. 513 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Her name, wait for this, was Nina Lila. 514 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,000 Nina means a female. 515 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:42,000 And in Africa, even now, go to Zululand, what is the name for a mother in Zululand? 516 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Nina, N-I-N-A, Nina. 517 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:58,000 If I say the mother of David, I say Unina, ka David. 518 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:05,000 The word Nina is the name of a female entity. 519 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:25,000 I have also read, Cruella, that genetic research has suggested at least one study,... 520 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000 Does that fit with what you come across? 521 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Yes. 522 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:36,000 I had the great friend, Professor Raymond Dart. 523 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000 And with him, we studied these things. 524 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:50,000 He gave me the original words, and I could find similarities in Africa. 525 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,000 So you think that humanity was seeded in Africa and went out from Africa? 526 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,000 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. David. 527 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:09,000 Otherwise, why are there so many hundreds of Indo-European words in the African languag... 528 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Why are there other words in the Indian language, which are similar to African words? 529 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,000 Take, for example, in the Hindu language. 530 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:35,000 Excuse me, could you turn the radio down, please? Could you turn the radio down? 531 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 They won't hear you. 532 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000 No, sir, they can't. 533 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000 Okay, doesn't matter. This is getting noisy in the background. 534 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000 We can go into the temple, sir. 535 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000 We can go through this. 536 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,000 What I don't want to do is to disturb your train of thought. 537 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000 No, it's quite all right, sir. 538 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000 You're not going to lose anything, are you? 539 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,000 No. 540 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,000 What I'll do is I'll ask questions that will go before this. 541 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,000 We can just cut to the mechanics of this, and then I'll throw some questions. 542 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:14,000 This is amazing, because Michael Tellinger's interpretations of what's happening in Sou... 543 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:20,000 And it seems like no one is hearing your voice. 544 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,000 What I don't understand is I know that you've met with Tellinger. 545 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Did he not listen to you, or did he not answer the right questions? 546 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,000 He just used me, as they all do. 547 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 I am the most used Negro in South Africa. 548 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000 Did you tell him, Traylor, the sort of things you just told us? 549 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Yes, sir. 550 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:52,000 Now, this man, this man here, there's something here. 551 00:44:52,000 --> 00:45:08,000 This man here, he rejected me out of hand in the days when I was working with Brenda... 552 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,000 Which man are you referring to? 553 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000 When you say this man here. 554 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000 Romnik. 555 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:23,000 There is a white man who is called Romnik. 556 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000 He is a Hungarian. 557 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,000 And if ever there was a man who is a bloody racist, it's him. 558 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:41,000 He says that black people have no native intellect, that we all imitate what white... 559 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000 This is bullshit. 560 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000 Wait, I will find you. 561 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,000 Let's go and... 562 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,000 Okay, let's go. 563 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000 Let's go and stuff it in the bag. 564 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Let me carry you back. 565 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000 Yeah, I'm sure of it. 566 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,000 No problem. 567 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000 No. 568 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000 You give me those books, mate, and you just look after that. 569 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000 Please, it's all right. 570 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,000 Let's go. 571 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:12,000 I feel bloody weak, but that's my fault. 572 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,000 When you said, Credo, that... 573 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,000 Yes. 574 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,000 When you said that you would like to set the record straight, then this is what we woul... 575 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,000 So... 576 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,000 We're starting to do this now. 577 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:46,000 White people, even now, many of them, do not understand that a black person is capable ... 578 00:46:46,000 --> 00:47:02,000 We are despised in a way that is our best defence. 579 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000 We are despised. 580 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000 Look down upon... 581 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:41,000 If there is a message that you wanted to give to Michael Tellinger now... 582 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000 He won't listen. 583 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000 I won't even waste my time. 584 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,000 Because nobody really wants to listen to the African. 585 00:47:50,000 --> 00:48:00,000 We are called apes and thinking monkeys. 586 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:08,000 But that is much to our advantage. 587 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:22,000 Some of the greatest black leaders in African history often used to play stupid in order... 588 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:31,000 The man who killed Shaka used to behave like an idiot. 589 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:39,000 He used to wear his red skin back to front and wrong side out. 590 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000 And Shaka despised him. 591 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:55,000 It was exactly like Brutus, the one who really shafted into Julius Caesar. 592 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:15,000 The world has got to know before Africa is destroyed, as she is in the process of bei... 593 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:21,000 The world has got to know what we know. 594 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:35,000 The world has got to know what we know. 595 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:45,000 The world has got to know what we know. 596 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:55,000 The world has got to know what we know. 597 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:05,000 The world has got to know what we know. 598 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:15,000 The world has got to know what we know. 599 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:25,000 The world has got to know what we know. 600 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:35,000 The world has got to know what we know.