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The main importance of sigh is
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Establishing a solid scientific basis to say the transpersonal should be looked at seriously. I am able to sense a lot of different
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like dimensions of life and
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It's all interconnected and apparently the rest of the world's not seen
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Thoughts are actually faster than the speed of light and that's worth remembering
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This is useful in the sense of demonstrating to somebody something that's interesting, but it doesn't count as evidence
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In the scientific sense we are in wireless broadcasting with everything around us
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Everything is broadcasting everything is receiving and once you get that in your consciousness. You'll never feel
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Disconnected or separated again when I've asked them these questions about do you really believe this they look at me like?
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What's wrong with you? You can't see it. It's all around you, but one very well-known
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Scientists came back and said this is the kind of thing. I wouldn't believe in even if it were true we
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humans are unlimited and
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the more
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We practice something the better we get
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I
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I
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I've been thinking about this subject ever since I was at university when I discovered there were other philosophies in life and not just
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religions with rules I've puzzled over metaphysics and esoteric books
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Dabbled in yoga and meditation. I've been soothed by energy healers healed by acupuncturists and had my fortune read
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I've never thought too much about psychic phenomena. I don't think I'm any more psychic than the next person
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Certainly not as psychic as my cat who mysteriously knows to disappear just before a vet appointment
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Recently three strange events happened around me all at once
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First there was the story of my daughter
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I had a dream where I was in the house of Tana's mother and her mother was lying in
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her bed and
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She was suffering from something and she was saying help me
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Help me and she was reaching her hand. No one was helping her
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So and I felt as I was part of the ceiling just looking down
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as I didn't
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remember the
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Dream when I woke up I woke up from normal and it was
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Walking on the beach that we got a call from Tana that her mother had died that night. I
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Was like totally freaked out as though I could have seen the future and I felt as though I could have helped her
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Then out of the blue I felt compelled by some strong force to ring my father
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Only to be told he had had an accident and was an intensive care
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Then the third thing happened I was filming my friend's wedding and the spoon-bending performer turned up I
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watched him like a hawk he had to be a fraud
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And a little blow makes it back to a paper check it out of the air
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And a little blow
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Then I invited him home to bend my kitchen spins and I could observe his tricks a little closer
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Still stainless steel wonderful. So it is a stainless steel teaspoon
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So if I take it and I rub it between the head and the neck, excuse me, sorry
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Don't know how he did it, but I'm sure it's a sleight of hand, but I know the other two incidents were real
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How do I distinguish between tricks and truth
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Tell the difference between a psychic and a fraud. I
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Want to know what science has to say about these mysterious matters. I want to know if
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How and why?
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And is there an explanation or evidence to prove them
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California has always had a great tolerance for innovation and new ways of thinking
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There are plenty of scientists to talk to and the one who has agreed to guide me on this journey
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Lives in my old university town of Berkeley
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I
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Am on my way to professor tart. He is one of the grandfathers of parapsychology as he has been
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Investigating psychic phenomena for almost half a century
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Good morning, Renee. I
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Didn't expect to be filmed opening the door, but what the heck
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The psychical research or parapsychology as it morphed into eventually has been around for roughly a hundred and some years and
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During that time there have been a few
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Psychic phenomena that have been explored at great length such that there are hundreds of experiments demonstrating the reality of each of those
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There are also some things that simply haven't been investigated that much and that minor might not be real
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But the ones that are real
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By any reasonable criteria of science are the ones I call the big five and that's telepathy on the one hand
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mind-to-mind
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communication
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Second is clairvoyance the direct knowledge of the physical world when it's not known to anyone else at that time
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The third of the big five is precognition and I must say this is the one I
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Have the most trouble with intellectually because I can't really imagine how it could happen, but the evidence shows that it's happened
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the fourth of the big five is
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Psychokinesis or telekinesis to use an older term mind over matter and
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the fifth is
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psychic healing
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These I call the big five simply because there are hundreds of experiments supporting the reality of each one and they're very rigorous
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Experiments are done to much higher standards of control than experiments in almost all other fields of science
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Aha, ah
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Yes, that's a nice twist
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And you can still use it
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So I think of the bent spoon stuff as the universe sort of
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Teasing us sometimes as to what's going on here
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I much prefer to rely on the laboratory research on mind over matter
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Where you do have things happen under conditions where you actually know what went on
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Now that professor Tartt is retired from UC Davis he teaches at the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology in Palo Alto
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I
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Got into the spiritual emergency business without knowing I was going to get into it
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Forty-some years ago and over the years I have gotten it must be thousands of phone calls letters mostly emails now
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From people who've had unusual experiences and a lot of cases. They're frightened. They're confused. They don't understand
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what's happened to them and
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I would look at the experiences and I'd say oh, yeah
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Well, that's a telepathic experience and that's an apparition of the dead and so forth and sort of gave it a name
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Trans is talking about
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Breakthroughs or mystical experiences or epiphanies or a person
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Experiences being part of something much bigger than just their ordinary biological and social self
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It's a mirror you can shoot yourself in
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So if someone feels they've contacted God or been at one with the universe
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Unified with nature or something like that and it's a real feeling not just an idea but a real deep feeling
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That's what we mean by a transpersonal experience. They forget their ordinary little self
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Called from moral than Edgar Mitchell
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Exploded surface
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After the work was done and I was able to look at the earth the moon and the Sun as
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They passed through the cabin window as we were coming home and I was able to
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look at the heavens and suddenly realized that the molecules of my body and the
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Molecules in the spacecraft had been manufactured and created and prototyped in some ancient generation of stars and
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instead of a
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intellectual knowledge
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It was a visceral knowing and connection a feeling of connection
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with the star systems that created us created the matter in our bodies and
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It was accompanied by a very blissful feeling that I'd never experienced before a life-changing sort of experience and
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One that I think that I've come to realize is perhaps our evolutionary destiny provided we survive that long
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In
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1974 Edgar Mitchell was the sixth man to walk on the moon
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Since his epiphany he has been dedicating his life to looking for answers to explain what happened to him
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He put his money where his mouth was and founded the Institute of noetic sciences
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Noetic means to reveal a deep and profound truth
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Here at the Institute they investigate science with the spiritual dimension
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of the universe
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Professor Tart has offered to be my introduction to a small band of courageous men the frontier
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Scientists doing the experiments in these fields. This is fortunate as they were very tentative to meet me
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There's a lot of prejudice and a lot of skepticism against psychic or Psy research
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Some scientists have even lost their jobs over it
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Dean Raden is one of the most famous parapsychologists in the US
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Like professor Tart. He is a well published author and has been doing experiments into psychic phenomena for 30 odd years
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Do you think this is a trick
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And in this case it's not you have to ask is it possible in principle to do this with force and the answer is yes
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Then the second question is can somebody dissociate so they're not aware of what they're doing the answer is yes
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So in a case like this, we don't know
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When you look at the
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overall results of experiments on telepathy and unclear voyance and precognition
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and also psychokinesis you find that the cumulative data is
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Quite strong in favor of the existence of these effects
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you also find that the effects are much weaker and
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What you see in the laboratory and what people typically report in their real life
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My daughter was very young probably around two and we were walking down the street and
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I suddenly was
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Confronted by what appeared to be an angel standing in front of me and telling me to go to the other side of the street and
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to move very quickly so I picked my daughter up and ran across the street and
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Then I turned around to look behind me to see what was happening
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Just as they were trying to lower a grand piano from an upstairs
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Window and the cable snapped on that piano it came straight down and crash the keys
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Flew right out sideways in both directions
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Some of the experiences that people have in life with so-called crisis telepathy and
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Precognition and dreams and that sort of thing we know that in principle some of that is real sometimes
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But on the basis of any given story you never know Dean is currently investigating
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Precognition also called pre sentiment it is an ability to foresee or for sense the future
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It can occur as a vision a mental flash or a dream
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Can you see the future
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Okay, so let's at this point bring in Oshara's head
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The rest of her body can follow
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The experiment involving the eye tracker is looking for
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Presentiment in in the eye essentially so when the experiment is running you'll see that
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Oshara's eye will be here, and it's tracking the eye, and this is what she will see
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The movement of the pupil is
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Reflective both of the amount of light that's coming in
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But it also reflects your emotional response to what you what you're looking at
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So we hope to find in this experiment is that when you see an emotional picture
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You have a may have a certain big response in your pupil, and when you see a calm picture you have a response
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But it's not so big that's when you see it the question is what happens to your eye before you see it
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Now in the case before you see these pictures you're always looking at a gray screen
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There's nothing there, so you wouldn't expect by any conventional reason that the eye would be changing
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But the presentiment studies suggests that the eye and the body everything in the body does change
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It is responding to apparently your future
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Here's the three-second period before the picture is selected and what we
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We hope to find is that when there is a big emotional response in the future and causes an emotional
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Dilation that there would be a similar dilation beforehand, and as you see that's what ended up with her
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This difference in pupil dilation mimics what happens later, so this is a presentiment this area here
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So the future is very emotional it may in a sense leak backwards in time and affect your how you behave now
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Most of the evidence in the laboratory comes from the equivalent of college sophomores
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They come from from people just ordinary people who are maybe interested in this maybe not I
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Think of this study as looking through the window to the soul to see the future
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That's the poetic way of thinking about this study
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It was December about 15 years ago
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When I suddenly got a phone call from Good Morning America
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one of the largest morning talk shows here in the United States and
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They wanted to book Deepak Chopra for an interview which normally would have been amazing news really fantastic
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He wasn't yet a household name
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the problem is is that or was is that Deepak had just left a few days before to go on a safari to
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Africa with his family and
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Right before he left he called and he said I'm gonna be completely
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Unreachable for the next two weeks and this was way before email or cell phones
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And it just wasn't gonna be possible to call him and the producer said to me
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I need to know in 24 hours if he can be on the show on January 2nd
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And I was just going crazy thinking you know I can't commit him because I don't know his schedule
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And I can't say no because it's such a great opportunity
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So I just said okay
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I'll call you back in 15 minutes, and I closed my eyes and inside of my mind
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I screamed as loud as I could Deepak call me and
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10 seconds later the phone rang and it was Deepak, and he said what do you need and I said how did you know?
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He said I knew what do you need and I told him and he said of course
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I'll do the show and January 2nd's perfect. I called the producer back. We booked it and everything worked out
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Telepathy means instant communication between two people regardless of distance through means other than the five senses
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The person who has done the most research on telepathy
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Thousands of experiments in the last 30 years is the British biologist and philosopher Rupert Sheldrake
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And telepathy happens between people who are closely bonded emotionally or between people and animals if there's a close emotional bond
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It doesn't typically happen between strangers
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I've done a lot of experiments on telephone telepathy that show that people really can tell who's calling
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In these experiments the caller names four people they know well
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They give us their phone numbers. We pick one of the four senders
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The sender rings them up the phone rings they have to guess before they answer the phone who's calling
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Maureen
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Maureen
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Yes
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Yes
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Oh yes
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By chance they'd be right one time in four at 25% in our experiments
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They're right about 45% of the time and I now have an automated version of this experiment
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For emails on the internet and also for SMS messages
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So it's now possible to do these experiments on a wide scale
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using modern technologies
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Telepathy works between people who know each other well
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The sense of being stared at often happens with strangers and I think in nature
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It's probably evolved in connection with predator-prey relationships
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That if prey animals could tell when predators were looking at them they'd escape better than if they couldn't tell
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And this sense of being stared at is common in animals, not just in people. It's a biological phenomenon
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Our conscious awareness is a very thin slice of what we're actually able to perceive
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And there's a huge amount of additional perception going on below the surface
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So another category of telepathy experiments is whether or not you can feel that someone is paying attention to you
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So they're sometimes called remote staring experiments
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And when I think you're looking at me look at the camera
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Right
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Okay
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So what I'm going to do now is make sure that we're picking up the physiology okay
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We take two people and separate them
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And instead of having one try to mentally send information to the other
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You simply have them look at a closed circuit video image of them
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And try to mentally or intend very intently to capture their attention
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Simply by looking at them
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You're just watching them
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You're just waiting here for an image to come up
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And as soon as it comes up put every ounce of intention that you can have onto the screen
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Look at us
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Okay so there's the end of the ten seconds
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This is the moment when the TV screen turns on
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And so she immediately stops relaxing
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Starts to become more aroused and then near the end of it begins to relax again
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So this suggests that this kind of response
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Skin conductance aroused by the
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And a restriction in blood flow during that period
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If it happens often enough on average over the course of the session
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Then it gives us evidence that she was responding physiologically to our distant intention
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So what this tells us is that these psychic connections are probably
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The most important part of the process
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And that's what we're going to do
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We're going to take a look at the results of the experiment
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And we're going to look at the results of the experiment
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The psychic connections are probably there all the time
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Most of the time they're operating at the level of the unconscious
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And it's only fairly rare that it rises to the level of awareness
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That people can report it
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On those occasions when your senses are turned off or subdued
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That's largely where people begin to report these other forms of connections
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So meditation, dreaming, drumming, dancing, drugs
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All these kinds of things will deflect your ordinary attention
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And allow you to pay more attention to other things
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This is the official Oscar magnet
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Well, Oscar has a very uncanny ability
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And his uncanny ability is that he knows when terminal dementia patients are about to die
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Generally anywhere from two to four hours before a death
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Oscar will wander into a room
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He usually will leap onto the bed if he's allowed by the family
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And stay there
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Usually he curls up next to the patient
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And he almost serves as an early warning system, so to speak, for us
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When we know Oscar is milling around a patient
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We know that we need to ramp up our end-of-life services
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We know that it might be time to call the family in from home
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Because he stays until the patient dies
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Many dogs, cats and other animals pick up their own intentions
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They seem to be telepathic with their owners
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One of the ways in which dogs show this behaviour is knowing when their owners are coming home
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About 50% of dog owners have found that the dog goes and waits at a door or a window
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Before the person gets home
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We've done experiments that show it is really happening
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We've filmed the place where the dog waits
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We have people go at least five miles away
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We have them come home at random times
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They travel by taxi to avoid familiar car sounds
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And the dogs still know
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They start waiting when the person decides to go home
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So they're responding to the person's intention
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And therefore it seems to be a telepathic phenomenon
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It's what's going on in the person's mind
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Not noises or physical clues or anything like that
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That's telling the dog when they're coming
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The dog is a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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It's a social animal
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Telepathic phenomena have fields for social groups
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That link the members together within the group
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And continue to connect them even when they're away from each other
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Physically separated
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The closest physical analogy to telepathy is in quantum physics
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Quantum non-locality
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Quantum non-locality is when two particles have been part of the same system
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They're part of the same system
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They move apart
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They remain linked to each other or entangled
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As quantum physicists say
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So that a change in one instantly affects the other
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My idea of morphic fields is very similar in spirit to quantum theory
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The morphic fields are a bit like quantum fields
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They're probability structures
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Organized by invisible fields
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Living organisms are organized by invisible fields
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This seems to be the nature of nature
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Telepathy suggests a form of connection between people
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So if two people are really connected
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And if you separate them and you poke one of them
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The other one should flinch
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And one of the more interesting studies of this type that I know of
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Was done by colleagues at Bastyr University and the University of Washington
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They selected one couple out of 30 couples
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And then they put the person playing the role of the receiver in a functional MRI
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This is a brain scanner that's looking at what's happening, the blood flow in your head
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And they put the other person at a distance
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And exposed the descending person to flashing lights or to static lights
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And the question was if these two people are really connected mentally
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And when one person is seeing flashing lights
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Maybe the brain of the other one will light up as well
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So they did this experiment and they found that the receiver's brain was lighting up
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And it was lighting up in the visual cortex
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This actually not only shows that telepathy is real under highly controlled conditions
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It tells us a little bit about the nature of what that connection is
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It would be very, very unlikely that it's a kind of signal connection
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Meaning like a radio sending a signal from one place to the other
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Because the usual form of signaling was excluded
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So instead if two brains are in a sense almost acting like one
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It suggests that the connections we're talking about are a holistic connection
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And I think that begins to point more towards a quantum connection
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Rather than any form of classical connection
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I was approached by the grandmother of a nine month old child that had been taken
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There was a divorce situation going on
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So they brought me pictures and the baby's teddy bear
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And I started, it was kind of difficult because I go through thought patterns
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And because he's nine months old and he's in a car seat
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He can't see out the windows
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So all I can see is the underarm
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And so I would keep track of it over a period of days
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And then one morning I got up and I called the officer that I was working with
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And I said, he's with this lady and I described what the lady looked like
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And they're going to go to a grocery store this morning
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And I described what the grocery store looked like and where it was
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He figured out who the woman was that I was talking about
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It was the sister of the man who had taken the baby
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So they spent the morning, all these agents, walking around the grocery store
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Pretending to shop, waiting for her to show up
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And then she showed up, she had the baby with her
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And they were trying to figure out what to do when she walked away
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And left a nine month old unattended in a grocery cart
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And the agents just swooped out
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And rolled it away and they arrested her as a co-conspirator for kidnapping the baby
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If I'm working from crime scene photos, which is the way I prefer to work
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Then the event itself starts re-running in my head
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It's like a movie that's been very poorly edited
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The sound doesn't work very well
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And I can get snippets of sound, a little short running sequence
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And then there'll be a gap
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And it's like watching a poor quality movie
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But I've learned how to rerun images many times
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So that if a police officer asks me a question, I can rerun the image
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Look at it from an adjusted angle and get the information they're asking me for
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So I am technically doing remote viewing
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Although most people don't think of it that way
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Remote viewing is the scientific term for clairvoyance
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Using our sixth sense to get information about a distant place or object
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I was a straightforward laser physicist at Stanford University
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I graduated with my PhD there
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And then I went to the University of California
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And I was a very good student
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And I was very good at science
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I graduated with my PhD there
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And then I worked on a textbook, graduate-level textbook on quantum electronics and lasers
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And there's nothing like writing a textbook on the subject to realize how much you don't know
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And one of the things that struck me as I was working on the book was that
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We have a pretty good quantum description of all kinds of mechanistic, inorganic interactions
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But we don't have a quantum theory that even begins to touch on mind or that kind of thing
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Can some strange and as yet unexplained psychic ability
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Help us to see that which is concealed from ordinary vision?
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Is there something in the human mind that can gather information our normal senses do not know?
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In the early 1970s, Hal Putoff was the director of Stanford University's research institute
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He was testing psychic phenomena with algae and laser beams
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Until the psychic Ingo Swann contacted him offering himself as a test subject
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So I talked to my physics colleagues and they said, oh, these guys are all frauds and charlatans
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You better be careful, you better have a really good experiment
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We started doing some experiments of him seeing remote locations
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Anyway, I circulated around the results I was getting from these experiments
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And a few days later, the CIA shows up at my doorstep and they say, have we been looking for you?
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From 1972 to 1997, during the Cold War, the CIA funded what was known as the Stargate program
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To test if remote viewing could be used as an intelligence tool
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The very first, not talking about one out of a hundred, the very first Soviet facility we looked at
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Was over in the Soviet Union
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And it turned out our remote viewer, Pat Price in this case, drew a picture of a crane
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And he said, I'm lying on my back on top of a two-story building and this crane is rolling over my head
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And it's so large that a man is only half a wheel height
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Well, when he told me that, I thought that was ridiculous
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But in fact, it turns out that's exactly what the site was like
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I don't know if you can see here, but in fact, that little dot there is a man
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And so when we asked him, well, what do you think the site is used for?
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He said, well, I think it's for some space application
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It was only after the Cold War was over and people from our country got to visit the location
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We found out that in fact, this was for a space application
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The old-fashioned theory was that remote viewing had something to do with the brain
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Sending and receiving electromagnetic brain waves like a mental radio transmitter
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And so one way to attack that is to do experiments over longer and longer distances
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And we eventually did experiments over continents and didn't see any degradation of the apparent, quote, ESP data
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So distance didn't seem to matter, so that seemed to be a strike against the electromagnetic idea, the brainwave idea
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We then put people aboard submarines, took them down to the bottom of the ocean
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There's enough shielding of electromagnetic waves in seawater, conductive seawater, that that should have blocked it out
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In fact, the remote viewer said, oh, this is, quote, psychically quiet, I can do better than ever
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So the major area that we're looking at actually has to do with the fact that although empty space appears to be empty
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Quantum physicists know it's not really empty
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It's full of what we call quantum fluctuation energy or vacuum energy
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Howe thinks there is a mysterious energy pervading all empty space in the universe, including the cells of our body and our brains
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He calls it vacuum energy or zero-point energy
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It might connect us all, in which case it might explain remote viewing
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It's our liquid nitrogen tank
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The reason it's called zero-point energy is because it's a very small amount of energy
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It's a very small amount of liquid nitrogen tank
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The reason it's called zero-point energy is that even if you were to cool the universe all the way down to absolute zero
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Where all thermal motions get frozen out, this energy still exists
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Sometimes experiments led to finding, well, a very famous case
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A plane went down in Zaire, and because it crashed into the jungle, the satellites couldn't find it
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So Stansfield Turner, who was director of CIA at the time, turned to remote viewers and targeted on, well, where did this plane go down?
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In fact, we were able to find out and get in there and get the plane before the Russians did
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And so this was like a super, super deal
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I mean, this was briefed all the way to Carter from the White House
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We were told, you know, you'll never talk about this
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But then one time when President Carter, after he was out of office, was addressing a college group in Georgia
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Somebody asked him, well, what was one of the more strange things that happened as president, kind of unexpected?
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And he said, well, you know, once we lost a plane in Zaire and we couldn't find it
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And the CIA director turned to remote viewers and they found it
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And so that's how the story got out
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Was it just coincidence that former President Carter was on my plane the next day?
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After more than two decades of research and $20 million, the Cold War ended and the CIA program was shut down
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But word had gotten out, and today in the U.S., there are thousands of people practicing remote viewing professionally
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In 2003, in November, on the 3rd of November, I asked 47 people who had come to a college workshop that I taught on remote viewing
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They asked me, we want to do something important
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And so I asked them to describe for me where Saddam Hussein was and what he would look like when he was discovered by a coalition or United States troops
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What he would be wearing, who he'd be with, what the place would look like
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They each gave me their individual answers, which I then analyzed
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They had a consensus view, which was that Saddam Hussein would be discovered in a compound of a couple of houses near the city of Tikrit
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They said that there would be a road running in front of the house and a river would be behind it
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I did the analysis and I gave all the material over to the director of the university who had it notarized and put in a sealed envelope
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And put in a vault, which is where it resides to this day, and then we waited
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
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We got him
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The reconstruction of the vents as they would transpire on the 13th of December was highly accurate
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Here is the drawing that was released by the Pentagon, and again, you see here, they call it the spider hole, there he was down there
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Here's the vent pipe, just exactly the sort of thing that they described
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This is the air vent and a fan, exhaust fan, that had been built into the hole to allow him to remain underground
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Here's the building above, and here's the little hidden place, and he says here, here he is crouched down here, and here's the vent pipe
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It's like in a hidden chamber, it says
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Here's another one, and she has drawn this building with this funny little second story and with the big palm trees at either end of the building
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The funny little second story, well here's the actual building, this was released by the provisional authority, you know, that took over Iraq
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They said that he would only have two or three people with him, that he would look like a homeless person
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That he would have wild hair and wild salt and pepper beard, dressed in dark clothes
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That he would be dispirited and dejected and would put up no resistance, even though he would be armed, and that he would have a large quantity of money
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So you would have a good case to go and find Osama bin Laden?
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Well, I suppose one would have a good case if the CIA were soliciting input
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Do you know where Osama bin Laden is?
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I'm not answering a question like that on tape, it would get me killed
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If I sense something like that, I go to the authorities with that, I don't go publicly with that
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Philosopher and parapsychologist Stephen Schwartz of the Philosophical Research Society in Los Angeles
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He is determined to see that psychic archaeology is accepted as a modern scientific discipline
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He has researched accounts of psychic investment
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I am interested in the nature of consciousness, and I got interested in archaeology as one of the ways I do research
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Partly because so much of archaeology depends on luck
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Here's an example. We had a very skeptical archaeology department at the University of Alexandria
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And they said, well, we're not going to cooperate with you unless you can find something and we can control it all the way through
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And so they wanted to find a buried building in a buried city that had a tile floor
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So here's George McMullen and I, and we're out in the middle of the desert
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Where would you look? And we have to search about, I think it was about 1500 square kilometers
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Well, after a while, George made a location and then we had Ella do the same thing
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Then we bring George back in and we literally say to him, now you remember where we started, off in that big area
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Put a stake in the ground at the corners of the building
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Now think about that. You can't be more than a few inches off
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And so then we dug down and there you see the walls beginning to emerge
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He's 28 inches off out of 1500 square kilometers
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Come on, Fanger
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There is incontrovertible evidence that people have the capacity to access sense impressions
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And information that they could not know through the normal sensory channels
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And I believe that it is telling us that all consciousness is interdependent and interconnected
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Exactly what, for instance, the Buddhists and Hindus and others have been telling us for thousands of years
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What do you think of this?
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Oh, that's a good one
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A friend of mine was giving these kind of spoon bending parties
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And my little nine-year-old daughter, my eldest daughter, had this
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And she came back to me after a few minutes and she had curled up the bowl
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These other things happened and I went back to my home
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And a healer, a Tibetan healer, was living with me
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He said, do you want to see psychokinesis?
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And I said, well, of course
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So he said, take off your ring
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I took off my ring
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And I was like, what?
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And he said, well, I'm going to go see a doctor
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So he said, take off your ring
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I took off my ring
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Took off my ring
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He said, put it in your hand
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I did
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He said, hold your hand out
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He put that over my hand about three times
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And that's what my ring looked like after it
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Nothing was used, it wasn't even touched
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I just held it in my hand and he passed his hand over it
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Just this morning I was cleaning up my office
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And I was looking at this bent spoon
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Which was bent at a scientific conference that I was attending
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There wasn't anybody there who claimed to be psychic or anything
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But funny things happened to occur around this one psychiatrist
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And this is stuff that's very hard to bend, okay?
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If a six-year-old girl can bend a spoon at a spoon-bending party
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Then I needed to find a man who invented these parties
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Well, he had to use some force to get it to twist that way
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But it had to be pretty soft for him to be able to do it
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So it's partial, it's maybe 90% PK
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Welcome to the PK party
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Does everybody want to bend tonight?
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Yes!
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We're going to all do this together now
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Get a point of concentration above your head
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To do anything in PK, you need to do three things
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The first thing you do is you focus your mind on what you're trying to affect
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The second step, you command what you want, what your intention is
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And the third step is letting go
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And when I count to three, we'll all come together
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And the third step is letting go
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And when I count to three, we'll all command it forcefully to bend
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One, two, three, bend!
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Bend! Bend! Bend!
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Let it go
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I'm very skeptical about any large claims of this type
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And I went to something called a PK metal-bending party
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Where people get together to bend metal
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And my intention was to see somebody do something that could not be done
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Through the use of ordinary force, by trick or by any other means
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And what I was hoping to find was somebody who could take the bowl of a soup spoon and bend it in half
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So I knew a woman who was at this party
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And who had claimed to do things like this in the past
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I sat down within two feet of her, watching her carefully
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And I was holding a spoon of my own
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And it was mimicking what she was doing
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Just to get a kinesthetic feel for what was going on
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Buckle!
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Buckle, buckle, buckle
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I guess I've got to get my brain out of the way
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Absolutely
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So she was trying this for a couple of minutes and I was watching her intently
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And then somebody behind me said, look what you did
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And they were talking about me, what I had done
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And I said, well, I bent the bowl of the spoon about 90 degrees over
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And I immediately looked at my fingers to see if I had been applying pressure
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Because it would have let an indentation to do it
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And there wasn't any indication of that at all
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So someone said, well, bend it all the way
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I said, okay
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So I just pushed it with one finger and it just went all the way over
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It felt soft like taffy and pinched over
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And it immediately hardened up and it's been that way to this day
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Buckle!
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Buckle!
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Buckle!
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Buckle!
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Go ahead
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I need to do it for people
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No, I'd like to do it for myself
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Why is it so quiet?
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Do it
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Come on
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Do it
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Come on
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Go!
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I got my brain out of the way
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I don't know, just all of a sudden I was just in an intuitive feeling
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Kind of like if you make a jumper on a shot on the basketball court
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And you're playing a basketball game
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Something like that
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You have the zone
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Exactly
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I used to be able to get there a lot faster
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The problem with it from a scientific point of view is
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It's extremely difficult to capture this under conditions that are controlled well enough
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So that you can provide evidence to somebody else to show them that it looks like it's real
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Because I can't do that with my spoon
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And I don't even make the claim of that
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I don't expect anybody to believe it
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But I have my own experience now where I know I can believe it
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So when it comes to the rules of evidence and science it doesn't have much currency
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When it comes to a personal experience it has a lot of currency
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Psychokinesis, or in short PK, means mind over matter
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Can we humans, through the power of our minds intention, affect anything?
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Psychokinesis, the original classical experiments used dice
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They were triggered by a professional gambler who came into J.B. Ryan's laboratory at Duke University once
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And said, you know I'm a professional gambler and I shoot craps and I make a good living at it
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But I read this statistics book recently and I found that I can't possibly make the kind of living I do without cheating
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What's happening?
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And so they tested it and asked him to will certain dice face to come up that would make him win
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And he got them more often than chance
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And this evolved into a regular testing procedure where eventually machines would throw these dice
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While people were told, make the sixes come up this time, okay thank you
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Now make the fives come up this time
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And again people got scores different from chance enough to know that sometimes the mind can reach out
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And directly affect the state of matter in these rolling dice
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Nobody tests with dice nowadays, they use fancy electronic machines
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Which are even harder to imagine what in the world they could do
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Scientists have created ever more sophisticated methods of measuring chance
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First they built this machine
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It takes 9000 plastic marbles up a conveyor belt and then randomly drops them
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Normally they fall into a bell shaped curve
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So scientists asked everyday people, students and so forth
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To mentally will more balls to fall to the left or to fall to the right
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And they successfully managed to do so
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Then they did the same test with this swinging pendulum
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Again people were able to significantly increase or decrease its swing
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The issue is what kind of control do we have to know what's going on
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So in the laboratory rather than using spoons we'll use something more like a system
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Which is extremely sensitive to any type of external force like the movement of electrons
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So here we have a random number generator, you can see it's a fairly simple electrical circuit
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It goes through the serial port of a personal computer
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And all it's doing is randomly flipping coins about 10,000 a second
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Tests have shown that in some mysterious way
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The human mind can influence this little machine to produce more zeros or more ones
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And shift it ever so slightly away from its normal random course
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If one person can affect a random number generator
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Scientists then wanted to see what would happen with a group of people
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A lot of people who work in contexts that involve groups
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Choruses or sports or anything where you need to work with other people
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Occasionally will report episodes when there seems to be a flow in the group
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Or the whole group gets into the zone and it just works better
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It works like a single organism and it feels good too
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And the question is what is that?
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Did something happen psychologically that connected people or something else?
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So one possibility is that the group actually does gel in a way
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It's almost as though it becomes a single organism
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As though there's a moment in which you have random things that sort of come together into a kind of order
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So, late 1997, myself and a few others were talking about these experiments
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And saying, well, wouldn't it be interesting if we could measure the entire world during large scale events?
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This was after the funeral of Princess Diana, which was a worldwide event
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And there are many more of these now because of the way the media works
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We figured if we had random number generators located around the world running 24 hours a day
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That we may find that there's a change in the randomness
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During periods in which people are paying very close attention to one thing as compared to other times
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And so we've now been running this for some years
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And we've been doing this for a long time
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And so we've now been running this for some years
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We've had over 200 events so far
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And the odds against chance of the change in randomness that we see is about a million to one
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And so they discovered something amazing
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Large group events can mysteriously influence these random number generators
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Causing them to veer off their usual random course
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This is Roger Nelson, who was involved in the earliest mind over matter experiments
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Based here at Princeton University, it was he who organized his scientist friends
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Into collecting random number generator data from around the world
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Thus was born the Global Consciousness Project
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So we have a huge database now that includes events like New Year's every year
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When people gather, millions and millions of people, maybe billions actually, celebrate New Year's
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And people start counting down, they actually focus all together on this very abstract moment
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So what we see in the data, just consider that we've got a wandering data line that's a composite
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Across all the time zones and all of the REGs
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The data wander randomly until about five minutes before midnight
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And then the variability decreases and it minimizes around midnight
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And then comes back up and becomes normal again
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So we have a period of about, I think it's on the order of 10 minutes, around midnight
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That looks different from random
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And this is consistent enough from year to year that it's significant
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And we now have a continuous record of 65 roughly of these devices
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Producing data from random event generators scattered around the world
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24 hours a day, seven days a week for years
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This is a little loud, we'll have to turn it off very quickly
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But the size of the bar and the loudness of the sound is an indication of the noise level at the particular instrument
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Like here's one in Princeton, here's one in Holland, right here, number 1000
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That's a very big deviation
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Okay, I'm glad you got one of those
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Now there are all kinds of events
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There are tragedies, there are wars start and wars end
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And there are religious celebrations of various kinds
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And we have found that if there are large numbers
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And that means something like many hundreds of thousands in most cases or millions
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Who become engaged in the same thing
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In the same way that we do in the world
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And if there are large numbers or millions who become engaged in the same thing
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In other words, they kind of all point the same direction mentally and emotionally
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Then we register something in our data
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Right here, stop, stop
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Gradually we come to understand that things that provoke or embody or evoke compassion
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And love, deep feelings of connectedness
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The kind of thing that really does represent the interconnection of people
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Those are the things that produce most reliably
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Big effects in our global consciousness data
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This is a memorial to the people from Princeton who were killed on 9-11
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There are 13 of them with their names inscribed around there
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I love the bell, it has a beautiful sound
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These are the names
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13 people and Princeton is just such a little place
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Mostly we're just randomly related to each other
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On 9-11 we were in New York, we were in New York City
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We were just randomly related to each other
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On 9-11 we were not randomly related
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We were focused together on something that was shocking
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Completely unbelievable
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It was just such a massive event in our mental, emotional space
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How many other countries lost citizens here?
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Some think it was just Americans, that's not true
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83 other countries from around the world lost citizens here
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I look for the ones who don't understand that Ground Zero looked like that on 9-11
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So here's what the variance did
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If you draw a picture of the day
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of this variance which should normally just wander as a kind of level trace
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we get starting several hours, about 4 or 5 hours before the first plane hit
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there's a huge change where the variance increases tremendously
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and persistently for 6 or 8 hours
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after which it then decreases by a similar amount
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so we have a kind of a spike in this variance measure on 9-11
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that's actually unique in the history up to that time
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and it looks like the system responded almost as if it was really feeling the emotions
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and somehow responding to the tragedy of the day
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as people all over the world were doing
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We became one
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Wake up now, grab a map, learn the facts
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It's free, it's free, it's free
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Mostly we're just randomly related to each other
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On 9-11 we couldn't do anything but be together
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Say nothing is sane, and get the facts
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There are lots of mysteries in our data
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It begins to change about 4 or 5 o'clock in the morning
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and that's 4 or 5 hours before the first plane hit
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Dean Radin's work is about pre-sentiment
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There are beautiful experiments that show in human beings
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a few seconds of pre-sentiment before powerful emotional events
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So maybe the global consciousness had a pre-sentiment
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about this tremendous tragic or traumatic event in global consciousness
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This is purely what people call hand-waving speculation
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but I think that it may be possible each of us has what you might call a consciousness field
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is that our minds are not confined to our heads
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They extend out into the world
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Our consciousness is not confined to our minds
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Our consciousness fields, if there is such a thing,
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could be a source for the information that could be absorbed,
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could affect an REG and change its behavior if we come together as a global mind
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The facts we're talking about are not really going to be useful
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for trying to open your garage door or change your television channel
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but the implications are powerful
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We are connected not only with each other but with the environment that we live in
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David Bohm, who's a highly respected physicist,
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who talked about the implicate order and a kind of different way of looking at quantum mechanics,
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he spoke of a special kind of information
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He says this special kind of information is virtual normally, but it's universal
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It's extended indefinitely in time and space
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It's what people call non-local information
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And we think that is the same kind of information that is responsible for the interconnection of human beings
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or of us with our environment
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The same kind of information that makes a difference to the REGs
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This active information can be actualized, can become real in the world if there's a need for it
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An example that's pretty easy for most people to accept is healing
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The healer has the information, the healer needs it, and the two create a kind of opportunity
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The healing process
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Via a friend, I heard about a woman who was miraculously cured through a psychic healing in Brazil
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I was very ill. I'd had three bowel resection operations that had failed
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And I ended up with a leaking bowel, which affected me very badly in the fact that I had a lot of toxins in my system
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I had a lot of skin problems, open sores all over, and I was desperate. I was absolutely desperate
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I heard of John of God in Brazil, and I went over there
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And seven months after her return, she was completely cured
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My liver was completely healed, the cells had regenerated, my colon was functioning for the first time in my life
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I heard so much about it, and when this patient of mine came back, I thought I'd really like to see what's going on
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John of God works for free. He says he is a spirit medium
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He goes into a trance, and spirit entities work through him to enable him to operate on his patients
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He's very open to medical people or doctors watching close up what he does
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And they actually ask if there's a doctor in the audience anywhere
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So it was myself and a lady from Germany, and I filmed some of the surgeries from close up, from, say, one metre away
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In the 20 odd years that he's been working in the Casa, he works with his bare hands
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And he uses a knife, like an ordinary kitchen knife, that's definitely not sterile
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He hasn't had one case of infection, not one
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I haven't heard anybody scream, so there's no pain, or relatively very little discomfort
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The surgery that he does up the nose, with the forceps, the long forceps, it goes right to the back of the sinus
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And he would twist the forceps around and he would actually pull out a tumour
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Yeah, I don't know how to explain that
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That you don't cause tremendous damages beyond any belief
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I know this is a controversial issue, but would you send a patient to a psychic healer?
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Well, when the patient's being told by the specialist that there's nothing more they can do for him or her
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then I feel I can actually suggest something like that
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You know, it's not important to me exactly how it happens or why it happens
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or to find intellectual explanations, because you won't
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Anything that you do that will bring about healing that's not harmful, I will support
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Throughout the history of mankind, many spiritual healing methods have been based on the transference of a universal, all-pervading energy
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The Chinese call it qi, the Japanese ki, and the Indians call it prana
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They say this life force runs deep in our bodies through invisible lines called meridians
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In China they practice qigong
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They say this works the life force energy, promotes health, and prevents disease
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The Chinese say illness occurs when there's a blockage of energy
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Here at a hospital in China, students use qigong to make a cancerous tumour disappear
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The Chinese call it qigong
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it qigong
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese call it meridians
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The Chinese are not too caught up in theories about how qigong healing might work
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They say the intellect can't understand how it works
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More importantly, than how it works is what it does
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But in Western science, we don't think like that
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We want to analyze and prove these mysterious things
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We want to analyze and prove these mysterious things
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We want to analyze and prove these mysterious things
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At the University of Arizona, Professor Gary Schwartz and his team are doing scientific research into consciousness and healing
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I began as an electrical engineer, and I understand how literally our anatomy, we serve as an antenna for electromagnetic signals, and we also generate electromagnetic signals
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And once you think of the body in terms of electronics and electromagnetic fields and resonance and interaction, the whole idea of energy healing becomes completely plausible
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After my breast cancer surgery, when I had a lumpectomy and some lymph nodes removed, and I was in so much pain, I thought at the time I'd never known pain like that in my entire life
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And they had given me tons of morphine, tons of every kind of drug, I'm allergic to all kinds of medicines, and nothing was touching it
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And Rebecca showed up, and I don't believe you left for two hours, did you? You were there for two hours, weren't you?
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About that, yeah
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But within five minutes, with therapeutic touch, we were able to get her pain level to nothing
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We're not doing the healing, but we are facilitating it, we're the conduits
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Generally, it's just universal energy, and the way that it is for me is I draw the energy through my crown, filling my body with this calm sense of peace, love, coming from a place of compassion
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The energy, the hands and heart are connected, the energy then flows through the heart, through the hands, to the individual
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We have electromagnetic signals running between our brains and our bodies that circulate through the liquids in our bodies
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It turns out that the blood, for example, is a very good conductor of electricity
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And that's why, for example, the energy from the heart, literally the electrical energy from the heart of the EKG, can be picked up from any part of the body
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Because the electrical signal from the heart goes down to the toes, to the top of the head
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By the way, it's the same thing with the brain, the brain generates an EEG, that EEG signal travels throughout the bloodstream, and you can easily measure that
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Professor Schwartz found evidence that healers emit highly ordered, invisible light waves and produce an extra surge of electrostatic energy
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This is an AC gauss meter, AC gauss meters are an extremely standard piece of equipment, and in particular we're looking at a thing called the universal chi point
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And the universal chi point is about here in the hand
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That chi point was actually well understood in Chinese medicine, there is an equivalent, for example, in Ayurveda
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There are equivalents in many of the, for example, the ancient Celtic traditions of laying on of hands healing
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So that point in esoteric knowledge is well recognized and understood
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In our laboratory we have done many different kinds of experiments
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We've measured the effects of energy healing on E. coli bacteria, bacteria in test tubes
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We've looked at the effects of energy healing such as Reiki on rats that were stressed with noise
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And actually measured the effects of energy healing on the body
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We've looked at the effects of energy healing such as Reiki on rats that were stressed with noise
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And actually measuring the microvascular changes in their gut
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We've known for years now that the power of belief is very strong in healing
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Tests with placebo medicines have shown that 33% of all people are healed because they believe they will be
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However, these tests with Reiki on rats prove the point that belief aside, Reiki works
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Because who knows what rats believe
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We've done experiments on the effects of healing on the longevity of leaves that have been cut
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Please do not work on the control leaf at any time in this process
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No matter how it feels inside, I need you to hold that very cleanly
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This is a complete trial that's ongoing at this point
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Leaves that are at day 58 in the ongoing process
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They have received four 10-minute healings every 24 hours
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You'll notice there are a number of control leaves that are being treated
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We did in this particular trial, we had one practitioner drop out
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The other nine pairs, all of the leaves are still alive
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We didn't know how long this process would last, and today is day 58
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We didn't know how long this process would last, and today is day 58
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I listen, I feel, I bring my hands in until I get a sense of something. I feel it, I refine it into the center of my palm.
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I feel it, I refine it into the center of my palm. Maybe I pull out, feel the interesting sensation of the draw,
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the stretching against me inside of the palm and back, and I simply play with it, and I observe how the people's bodies respond as I feel.
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There's a beautiful confluence of the energies, or more than the energies, of the frequencies and beyond that come together and create something more.
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There's a beautiful confluence of the energies, or more than the energies, of the frequencies and beyond that come together and create something more.
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It's more than being just a conduit. We're actually a catalyst for change.
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This arm goes like this, heading into the arm, the little teapot thing, for each other.
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Applause
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And in all these different areas and preparations, we find evidence for the power of intention.
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And the focusing of one's attention with that intention seems to be an important parameter in terms of determining the magnitude of the effects that are obtained.
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Sure. Actually, I want to see the other one. It's actually looser than the other one.
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We've done experiments on the effects of distant healing on the biophoton release or inhibition that occurs in plants.
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It turns out that all living things generate invisible light that is invisible to the naked eye.
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And it turns out that a healer can actually affect or increase or decrease the amount of light that's taking place.
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Do you take the leaves home? No, the leaves stay here and I go home.
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And then I spend the next X number of days running the energy for 10 minutes, four times a day.
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We just completed an experiment where a group of 400 plus people in London saw one of two leaves in Tucson.
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We did not know which leaf was picked. Each leaf, a geranium leaf, had 16 holes in it, 16 spots where the intention to glow might enhance it.
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And then for 10 minutes, one of those two leaves were picked and they watched on the screen the leaf and sent glowing instructions to the leaf.
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And then when we analyzed the data, much to my great surprise, not only was the leaf that was picked for the glowing instructions,
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could you see literally the spots where the injuries occur were literally glowing more.
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You could see it with the naked eye between the two images that there was an effect on.
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This is a photograph of photonic emissions from a human fingertip.
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Light is present in plants and all beings.
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The human finger is a
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source of energy.
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When we eat, we take in tiny light particles called photons.
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We store these photons in the cells of our bodies.
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Photons are quantum particles of light.
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They collide, exchange information, bounce apart and stay mysteriously connected at a distance.
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In quantum physics, this is called entanglement.
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I wonder, is this how healing and distant healing works?
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I would say that when you look at the totality of our research combined with other people's research,
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the conclusion is quite clear that healing can occur at a distance, that consciousness can have effects at a distance.
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How that works and the conditions under that work, that's another question.
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Many universities are skeptical of this kind of work, and there are many faculty within my own university that are skeptical of this research.
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However, the fact is that this work is funded by NIH, the National Institutes of Health.
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It's published in peer-reviewed journals.
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The studies are very carefully conducted, and the findings are very robust. They are real.
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What I find fantastic is just with, quote, normal energies, just normal radioelectromagnetics and normal light frequencies,
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we've got more than enough power to be able to communicate from one side of the planet to the other,
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and to be able to do so, quote, virtually instantaneously.
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So just working within, quote, conventional physics, and then add quantum physics,
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you've already got all kinds of power for virtually every psychic phenomena that's ever been reported.
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I am on my way to Dr. Larry Dossi, who comes from a traditional Western medicine background.
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However, he has become internationally renowned for advocating the role of spirituality in health care.
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He lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
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I was in Vietnam as a battalion surgeon in 1968, 1969,
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and was out in the front lines and saw a good deal of combat experience
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and a lot of blood and gore as a battalion surgeon.
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And so I was awarded medals for my participation as a surgeon in that conflict.
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Beginning in my first year of medical practice, I saw a particular case which changed my way of thinking about these things.
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I had a patient who was elderly. He had lung cancer in both lungs.
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He was dying. He was dying of a heart attack.
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He was dying of a heart attack.
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I had a patient who was elderly. He had lung cancer in both lungs.
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He was dying. He did not want any treatment, and at that time there was no good treatment anyway.
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All he wanted to do was to go home from the hospital to die at home.
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The only treatment he had, if you can consider it therapy,
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is that people from his church came to his bedside day after day and prayed for him.
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So I sent him home as he wanted to do, and I was convinced that he would be dead in a couple of days.
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A year later, I couldn't believe he was still alive.
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I went down to the radiology department, looked at his new chest x-ray,
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put it alongside the old one, which had lung cancer throughout, but the new one was normal.
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The only therapy this man had had, if you consider it that, was prayer.
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And I was astonished by that.
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I, at that point in my life, was not ready to accept that prayer did anything.
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I just called it a spontaneous remission and let it go at that.
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But that was seared into my brain, and I couldn't forget it.
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And years later, when the studies came out supporting prayer,
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I thought back about that and began to ask questions about that.
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I began to look at surveys of patients whose diseases simply went away.
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And one of the questions that these patients were asked was,
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what do you think accounted for the disappearance of your illness?
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Most of these people would say, well, it had something to do with my thought,
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the way I chose to live my life.
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Most of them would list some sort of spiritual practice, such as prayer.
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Seventy-five percent say that prayer accounted for why they got well.
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But others would list things like music, doing mental imagery.
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It's almost embarrassing about the variety of things people describe.
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Skeptics say there is no evidence. This is profoundly wrong.
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Currently, there are about 21 major, what we call, randomized,
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double-blind, controlled studies looking at the role of healing intentions
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or prayer, if you will, and the role of healing intentions or prayer,
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and the role of healing intentions or prayer,
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and the role of healing intentions or prayer,
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or the role of healing intentions or prayer, if you will.
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People call this by different terms.
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Obviously, in the Western world, most people associate prayer
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with a religion and with a deity.
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But this is not true if you look at other spiritual traditions around the world.
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Music
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Built in the early 1800s, the Santuario de Chimayo,
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it's about 30 miles north of here.
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It's a place that's a tribute, all sorts of healing powers to
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not the water as it lures, but to the dirt outside this little church.
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So people go and they get the dirt,
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and they rub it over the area of the body that needs healing.
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I was at the little church one day, and a woman came in,
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an elderly Hispanic woman. We struck up a conversation,
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and she told me how years before, she had come there in a wheelchair.
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And she prayed to the Virgin of Guadalupe,
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and something happened, and she was able to get out of her wheelchair
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and walk away.
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So she left her wheelchair there in gratitude,
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like people leave crutches at Lourdes and so on.
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And so she made an annual pilgrimage every year
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to express gratitude for her healing.
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She just took it as a matter of fact.
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She wasn't surprised.
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Many people here who have fantastic faith in the Virgin
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think that this just sort of goes with the territory.
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Actually, the prevalent idea is that good doctors,
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scientifically oriented doctors, don't believe any of this.
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That happens to be a false picture.
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We know that because of surveys that have been recently done.
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The first one came three years ago,
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and it looked at over 1,000 physicians around the United States
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asking them their beliefs about prayer, remote healing, and so on.
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Seventy-five percent of these physicians said that they believe
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that spiritual beliefs can help people get well.
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Seventy-four percent said that they think prayer can work at a distance,
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and fifty-five percent said they had actually seen results
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in their own patients that resembled what they call miracles.
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This is not the picture people have of doctors.
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Here's the explanatory factor here.
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If you ask doctors publicly what they believe,
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they will just deny that this stuff is real.
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But if you ask them anonymously on surveys
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where they do not have to sign their name,
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they will have a completely different picture.
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These are some benches I crafted for meditation sitting circle.
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Music
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I live in a part of the world where the Native American tradition
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is quite strong in northern New Mexico,
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and I've had the opportunity to talk with many Native American healers
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and shamans about what they think about prayer and intentionality,
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and it's taken for granted in their tradition that these things are real.
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They think it quite odd that we have lost touch with this.
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One shaman I asked in the area where I live,
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whether or not she believed in prayer, she said,
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oh, don't ask me that. We don't even have a word for prayer.
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It's just in the air. We don't make anything special out of it.
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You white people want to fancify this
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and make something really special out of prayer.
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It's just the way the world works.
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Music
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We know in modern medicine that many things work,
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although we don't have an understanding of how.
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A classic example is the general anesthetics.
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We don't know how anesthesia really works, but we know that it does,
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so we use it in spite of our ignorance about how it happens.
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We're pretty much the same juncture with healing from a distance.
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Although there are around 20 major hypotheses about how it works,
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there's no consensus.
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But almost all of these hypotheses suggest
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we're going to have to redefine consciousness.
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We're going to have to free it from the brain, from the body,
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and distribute it, what I call, non-locally out there in the world.
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Music
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I know people get troubled by the way we use the term consciousness,
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because it's not properly defined.
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Because sometimes in science you have to allow a term to float in ambiguity,
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and you understand its meaning as you go along,
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and you study how it manifests in the world.
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Then you eventually can define it.
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That's where we are with consciousness.
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This is where you could say, I keep all my attachments.
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All those things I probably don't really need,
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but I keep thinking I'd need them someday.
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By and large, science and spirituality, when they come together at all,
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are kind of dancing around each other, and not directly facing the core issue.
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The core issue is that most scientists are totally married
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to an absolute materialist philosophy of mind,
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which says the mind is nothing but chemical and electrical activity in the brain.
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It doesn't reach out beyond your body, it dies when you die.
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That's why I think it's so important to bring Sai in, okay?
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If materialism is right, and the core basis of spirituality is nonsense,
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the two are never going to help each other.
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It's going to be a continual fight.
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But if, as I see it, when you apply essential science,
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and you discover these Sai phenomena,
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and you find that the mind can reach beyond the body,
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that perhaps it survives death in some form,
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that we can have interconnections that are extremely deep and pervasive,
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that's much more what genuine spirituality is about.
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That's where the marriage between science and spirituality needs to take place.
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I'm trying to build bridges between those people.
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Um...
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Spoon bending is a very interesting phenomena.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon.
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:39.760
It's a very interesting phenomenon.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon.
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.760
It's a very interesting phenomenon.
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:45.760
It's a very interesting phenomenon.
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:47.760
It's a very interesting phenomenon.
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Spoon bending is a very interesting phenomena.
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Because, first of all, there are a lot of people who just do it as a trick.
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But let's eliminate the tricksters.
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Let's eliminate the charlatans.
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And let's talk about the conditions where a person can, for example,
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very gently stroke.
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No force whatsoever, just a gentle stroking.
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And it will be observed to bend.
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And the question is, how does that happen?
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Well, if we remember that any object is 99.9% empty space.
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This is mostly empty space, as is this.
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And what preserves this space is a particular lattice or structure that is held.
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But since this structure is mostly thin air,
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um...
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with the right intention and the right resonance,
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it is possible to then, so to speak, commune with the atoms.
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And therefore get into its resonance so that very little, quote, power
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allows for it to become, if you would, more liquid or more malleable.
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And you can do this with some objects more easily than others.
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But it becomes completely plausible
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once you look at this as a quantum physics phenomenon.
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I know enough about physics to know how little I know about physics.
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And so I know that a lot of the popular New Age writings
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that invoke quantum physics as sort of a rationale for psychic and spiritual things,
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they're really being poetic.
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I mean, it's kind of beautiful in a way, but quantum physics is not poetry.
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Our search for quantum physics is not poetry.
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Our search for truth, are we really going anywhere
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or are we just walking on a treadmill?
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In looking for mechanisms for how the psi operates,
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I can speculate, but it'd be too strong a statement
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to say that I think it's specifically linked
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to, say, zero-point energy or vacuum fluctuation.
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But it's still too early to really understand.
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I mean, even now, we know that dark energy is some 70-plus percent
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of the universe, dark matter appears to be some 20-plus percent of the universe.
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You add it all up, it turns out that 4% of the universe we understand,
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96% of the universe we don't have a clue.
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So facing the dark energy,
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we don't have a clue.
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So facing into that kind of reality,
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one must be very cautious about saying something can't be.
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Imagine that there was no Moses, no Buddha, no Jesus, no Muhammad.
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Imagine there was no Old Testament, no Kabbalah,
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no Testament, no Koran.
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Imagine there were no seers, no prophets, no medicine women or men.
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There was just 21st century science.
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Would science on its own, in its attempt to understand
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the origin and evolution of order in the universe,
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including us and our personal lives,
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would it come to the conclusion that some sort of a guiding,
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organizing, designing process, some sort of a G.O.D. existed?
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And the conclusion that I've come to over 20 years of research,
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beginning at Yale and continuing at the University of Arizona,
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is that the answer is yes.
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And so to be truly comprehensive about what a creative intelligence would mean,
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it would have to be big enough to encompass quantum physics
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and Newtonian physics and string theory
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and all the physics that would subsequently come along.
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We're into mystery and the unknown,
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and so to symbolize that,
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I stenciled one of my favorite sayings,
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something unknown is doing we don't know what.
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This is Sir Arthur Eddington's comment
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about the uncertainty principle in modern physics,
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but I love this comment so much, I apply it to all areas of life.
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It's my favorite article in the book,
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it's my favorite explanation for everything.
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Morphic or zero-point fields, quantum processes in our brain,
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spirit, consciousness, universal energy, G.O.D.
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It seems that our psychic connections are part of a great,
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mysterious mix of energy and information
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that lies at the heart of nature.
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Whatever the budding theories on psychic phenomena,
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I may not have found a proper explanation,
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but that does not mean we don't have these powers.
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Most of the pioneering scientists I met
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challenged the prevailing materialistic worldview
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that our mind is just limited to our brain.
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Their research demonstrates that sometimes
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there is an aspect of our consciousness that transcends space and time,
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that transcends the limits of our physical senses,
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that we can influence our physical world,
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and that we are mysteriously interconnected.
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This journey, prompted by my daughter's dream,
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my father's accident, and the weird spoonbending,
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brought me to a point where I can confidently say
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that I have not been deluding myself.
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The paranormal actually seems normal.
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But still I wonder, did I, in the process,
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just find scientific evidence for our divinity, or for spirit?
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Well, if the mind can sometimes reach out to another mind,
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tell about the state of the world at a distance,
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foresee the future, have a direct influence on matter
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through psychokinesis or heal things,
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to me that sounds a lot like the ideas of a spirit.
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Yeah, that doesn't mean that the Catholics are completely right
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or the Baptists are completely right
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or the Buddhists are something like that,
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but it does mean there is a reality behind spiritual systems
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that very much deserves our attention.
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That's the importance of psychic phenomena and the Big Five.
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What the remote viewer experiences is, I believe,
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exactly what the religious ecstatic experiences
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at the moment of epiphany,
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and it is what the genius experiences
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at the aha moment of creativity.
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What the science does, rather than taking you away from spirituality,
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it takes you towards spirituality.
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And the results show that our intentions matter.
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What we do is we're not just talking about the mind,
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but our intentions matter.
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What we want actually makes the world a little different
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from what it would be.
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It's as though each of our minds
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encompasses the entire universe all the time.
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Like a hologram, this intelligence is expressed everywhere.
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The phrase that I like to use is that the all is in the small.
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With hindsight, we can say, oh, those are the vectors
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that probably cause people to pursue various religious traditions
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or meditation practices or whatever,
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because it's a real phenomenon in the real world.
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Living organisms are organized by invisible fields.
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This seems to be the nature of nature.
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If we have a quality of our consciousness that's nonlocal or infinite
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in space, capable of reaching out through not just space, but time as well,
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that sounds pretty much like the soul to me.
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MUSIC
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Deepak, call me.
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MUSIC
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I'm not answering a question like that on tape, it would get me killed.
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MUSIC
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Man!
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Man!
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MUSIC
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Man, man, man, man.
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MUSIC
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MUSIC