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After endless fake ghost TV shows, here at last is a documentary that presents the real evidence.

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Yes, the experiments featured in this program have been described by the scientists who witnessed them as some of the best evidence for life after death ever.

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We had a thousand hours of continuous communication with this very well.

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We've been writing this for three years.

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For five years, the school experiment continued to produce a vast range of extraordinary phenomena.

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More than in any other experiment in the history of the paranormal.

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It was witnessed by hundreds of visitors and monitored by a team of internationally renowned scientists and investigators.

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I must stress, it changes your paradigm.

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What they claim to have seen and recorded is so shocking that many will find it unbelievable.

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The table, the level of the universe, began to be a very radical.

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I'm not all convinced that there is such a thing as life after death.

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In the U.S., we put psychic alas and duvoir, the inspiration behind the hit TV show medium to the test.

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Could she communicate with one of the leading school researchers after his tragic death?

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Dr. Lass, and we meet this woman.

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I'll just never be this, they're YouTube.

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She says she can pick up the voice of her dead son on this simple tape recorder.

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We also follow the school group, Twisley, where they conducted seances with Marcello Bachi, one of the world's most unusual mediums.

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For decades, grieving parents say they can talk to their dead children via his radio.

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Although the experiment featured in this program provides scientific evidence for the possibility of life after death,

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most of the public know nothing about them.

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This is the first time both the school group and Bachi have allowed their work to be shown together in a TV documentary.

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Yes, we here, we saw the film, and now come on, come on, friends, we can hear you starting.

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But the school group went far beyond this, achieving spectacular results in a claimed form of spirit communication known as physical mediumship.

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There's a wide range of phenomena of the physical mediumship over the centuries has been supposedly able to produce objects levitate, chairs, tables, objects in the room,

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airports and teleportation, other things just dropping out of nowhere.

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Sometimes things disappearing and reappearing, apparent, spirit hands, apparent spirit forms,

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things that people can see happening, is an effect on real objective things based on supposedly

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the communication or contact between a medium and the spirit world. The spirits are using the medium as a conduit

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to cause these events to happen.

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Physical mediumship is entirely different from mental mediumship, because everybody

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it's present at the time from witness what's happening, such as if a voice comes from midair,

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everybody can hear and converse with a voice.

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Very nice of you, there is yet.

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If a spirit person manifests, everybody can see what happens.

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I think it's fair to say that when you have fittings with physical groups as successful as the

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school group, you will see miracles, you see things which cannot be explained and normal or so science.

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Trying to communicate with the dead has been a lifelong passion for Robin and Sandra Foie.

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Today they are among the world's leading experts in physical mediumship.

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What happened here during the school experiment was very successful and a dramatic effort,

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which proved conclusively to us, and that life goes on after we all die.

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Diana and Alan Bennett have also participated in physical mediumship for decades.

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They joined the school experiment in 1993, but both claimed they were astonishing abilities

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began long before this. My first discovery of the big medium was when I was a child.

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I used to see spirit as to hear things and be aware of things that other people weren't aware.

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When I was young I saw spirits. The spirits that would come and show themselves to me.

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I think the greatest effort come from the spirit side. I mean without them you can sit there and nothing will happen.

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But a great deal did happen, more in fact than any other mediumship experiment ever conducted.

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And according to the school group this success was due to the effort of a group of deceased

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personalities on the other side. They called this group the spirit team.

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A spirit team was a team of spirit personalities who had lived a life on this earth.

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Several of them had been scientists whilst they were here.

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The school groups say instructions on how to conduct the experiments were received from the

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spirit team speaking via the mediums.

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Some of the initial experiments involved photography. These began conventionally enough

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with the four is being told to load a film into a camera and place it on the table.

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But after this things began to get very strange. We heard the camera moving around over our heads

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clicking and being wound on a spirit. In total darkness so that in reality nothing should have

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showed up on the film. But when the film was developed there were amazing pictures.

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Four time pictures I've sent balls and the bus that was blown apart in the blitz.

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Quite amazing stuff. It was never explained to us exactly why we got these particular

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pictures other than the fact that we had a separate photographic spirit team working with

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is at that stage who were practicing their art and seeing what they could achieve.

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Some films contained images of faces including human faces in various stages of formation.

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There were a series that appeared to represent bubbles and various other things coming

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together, partial faces etc. We were told that what we were seeing were areas of communication

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within the spirit world.

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The skull group believed these faces were images of deceased people which were somehow projected

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from the other side. To them this theory was confirmed with the appearance on another

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skull film of this blurry profile. Communicators threw the mediums informed them that it belonged to

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a man named Kingsley Fairbridge who had died in 1924. We were putting touch in a very obscure

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way with his daughter who was happy to agree that that was a picture of her father.

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In the next experiments the skull groups say they were able to create these images not only

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in total darkness but without the use of a camera. We were asked by the spirit team to put

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a totally unopened polaroid 35mm film just in its plastic container. If the spirit team felt

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that they'd achieved a result we were asked to develop it. This could be done immediately

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in a special processing machine. You can imagine our surprise will be bought this film up

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but never been opened. Put it through the process or reviewed it and there was images and faces

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writing. How do you explain it was there you know? In order to counter accusations that they

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fake these images the group invited independent investigators to select the films. I checked

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the box which was fatricilled, identifiable by the gloom box. He then broke the seal, signed the

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plastic film container and carried it into the session where it remained on the table.

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But could it have been switched? I'm a hundred percent certain that the film I selected

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was the same film that was returned to me at the end of the session. The film was immediately

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processed in front of him. Halfway along the film we could see a Latin statement.

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The spirit team had said that they'd worked on the film and lo and behold there it was.

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I do I believe in an afterlife. Yes, I do completely. I had an experience where I met a medium

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on the street and she described my great grandparents, my grandparents, my great aunt who have all

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passed away their name, the way that they died and told me that they were all around me and walking

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with me and never really have left me or never really leave any of us. So completely believe in that.

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News of the remarkable event that skull reached Italy where the skull group traveled to meet one

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of the world's most unusual mediums. Marchello Bacchi amazes visitors and scientific investigators

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who say they can hear the dead speaking through his old vacuum tube radio.

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This extremely rare form of mediumship is also called direct radio voice or DRV and is virtually

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unknown to the public. With it, experimenters believe that two-way conversations with the dead are possible.

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But could the skull group communicate through Bacchi's radio?

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Yes, hello. Thank you, man.

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After this scientist Harry O'Lefield, a colleague of the skull group attempts further communication.

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We would like to ask the question of the appearance of your space.

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I cannot read it, but it's good.

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Can't tell something about skulls.

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Thank you. Will the world progress?

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Thank you. This is what I need to know.

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Experts say that Bacchi's ability to invite the spirits to speak through his radio is usually

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so reliable he conducts regular sessions. This seems highly improbable, but these grieving parents

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don't think so. The walls are littered with pictures of dead loved ones.

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Parents clearly recognize the voices as belonging to their departed children.

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I am certain that my children, as well as other mothers, because they are

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! When they present you, we first call the mother, the name of the mother, and then the name.

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Apart from the fact that the voice is that of my children, I already know that it is not the color of the song.

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But at the time, I used to be the person who could know and who was given the message to me,

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and who was the one who was still in my life.

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The spirits that rescues them from torment.

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My life is the new life, and I always say the life of the first,

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or if it was killed when they were sent in, and I also started with the same type of events.

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But now these radio voices just clever hopes.

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Not according to scientists who have subjected to batches, mediumships, to a battery of 10th.

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After some of the world has been here. One of the leading Italian investigators is Paolo Prési,

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and has called it some illaboratory, an organization that uses the most stringent methods of

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science to investigate paranormal claims. He is a medium. Surely he is a medium, because

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all happen when he is present on the experiments.

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Using software endorsed by the FBI, a laboratorial, have conducted voice print analysis.

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Like a fingerprint, a voice print is unique. It can therefore be used to determine someone's

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identity with near certainty. They compared voice prints from two audio samples. One was the voice

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of she or a lensi recorded before she died. The other came out of batches radio after her death,

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and was clearly recognized by her father. The comparison produced a 97% match.

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Despite this startling evidence, skeptics claimed that the voices could be faked by transmitting

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them from a remote location. But Dr. Emmanuel Torielo, who has been investigating batches for decades,

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believes this is impossible. Dr. Torielo was present during key scientific experiments that he

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says eliminated any possibility of remote transmission. One of the first of these experiments involved

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putting batches radio inside a special device that shields it from all radio signals.

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Yet still the voice is continued.

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Second point, the radio was switched off, and though the voices were going to be true.

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The third and main point that the tube or the valve of the radio were totally removed,

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steamed the voice were going true for you to tell me how it's possible.

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Do you believe the possibility of life after death? No, I believe in a long, long sleep baby.

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Back at school, the phenomena were continuing to progress.

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Nearly all of them took place in this tiny brick cellar, affectionately called the Skullhole.

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It was here that the two mediums had go into trans, allowing what they say were deceased personalities

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to take over their bodies. And how difficult was it to summon the departed?

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I think possibly we set about twice a week for a year before we really got anything

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significant happen, you know, just mine a phenomena up to then.

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Of the group's determination and patience paid off. By 1995, visitors were reporting that the

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Skullhole was alive with extraordinary phenomena.

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According to the Skull Group, their spirit communicators requested that they place this empty

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glass dome on their table. The last time was very important to the Skull world.

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Creative energy stone in the dome and was used by the spirit team to produce the phenomena

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that happened at Skull. In this remarkable photograph, the energy can actually be seen

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radiating out from the dome. But since these phenomena are so unusual, the group knew that without

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careful independence scrutiny, their experiments will be dismissed as fake.

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Therefore, the group allowed their experiments to be monitored by a team of scientists

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and paranormal investigators from the society for psychical research or SPR based in London.

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For over a century, the SPR has specialized in examining paranormal phenomena in an unbiased and

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scientific way. Among its members have been some of Britain's most accomplished scientists,

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including a dozen Nobel laureates. Its investigators have exposed many fake mediums.

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They are not easily fooled. One of the leading researchers into Skull was a veteran

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SPR member Montague-Kin. Initially, we were all pretty skeptical because what had been claimed

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to seem so way out. Another key researcher was Dr. Arthur Ellison, an emeritus professor of

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electrical engineering and a former president of the SPR. No scientist to any cone would ever say

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that anything could not possibly happen. The third principal investigator was research psychologist

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Dr. David Fontana. Professor Fontana is one of the world's most respected paranormal investigators.

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Our normal is that mysterious area behind the scene and the known world. And since most of the

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world is unseen and unknown and most of the world is full of mystery, for me it's a fascinating

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area. To conclude the possibility of fraud, these scientists were allowed to inspect the seller

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and all its contents before and after sessions. All participants had to empty their pockets and

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leave their belongings outside. The seller had only one entrance and this door was kept locked

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during all sessions. Despite these precautions, the incredible events at Skull continued

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unabated and the SPR investigators reported what they saw in graphic terms. We saw colored

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lights, we saw materializations, we had direct voices that is spirit voices talking from the air.

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We were touched by the spirits, so a whole range of phenomena which could not be mistaken by three

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investigators such as ourselves. In the spirit of openness, the Skull group allowed more investigators

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to scrutinize their sessions. These included leading scientists from several disciplines.

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Even a professional magician. One of the scientists were the internationally renowned biologist

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and author Dr. Rupert Scheldre. The scientists done very little to investigate

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the afterlife or reincarnation, most materialists assumed that both of them were impossible.

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So there's a kind of dogmatic denial by some scientists of the possibility of these things,

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but I wouldn't say that was a scientific understanding. I would say that was a dogmatic

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ideologically motivated dismissal. The only way to have a scientific understanding is to do the

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research. We had a number of different professors of different disciplines to come and sometimes they

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could test their expertise against the expertise. On the other side, for example Professor Arty Roy,

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who's an astronomer and specializes in the movement of celestial bodies, had a discussion with the

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other side about celestial mechanics. And he said afterwards that he saw there only about half

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dozen people in the country who would know exactly what they were talking about. Such evidence is

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gold dust to researchers, as it is unlikely to have been fabricated by the mediums who possess

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no academic training in this area. On those assigned as found this sort of evidence impressive,

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they still needed to eliminate any possibility of fraud taking place under the cover of darkness.

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Therefore, this gold group devised several controls to help eliminate this possibility.

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One of these controls involved all participants wearing luminous wristbands. These bands were attached

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with velcro, so they could not be removed without attracting attention.

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They also requested the use of night vision equipment. We persistently asked them to accept

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infrared cameras, and they said not yet it would interfere with the energy in some way. So we had

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to accept this with great reluctance. We were told that this phenomenon could be developed in the

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light, but if it were, it would take an awfully long time to produce years and years rather than a

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few months that it actually took us. Critics saw this insistence on darkness as an excuse to hide

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fraud, but participants to the skull experiment were not always in total darkness.

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A bovamish changed generally like a pea size light, and he had substance they would come

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and sit on your hand, you could feel them. They were intelligently directed and intelligently moving

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and would be responsive to our wishes, whether expressed or silent.

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The generations were sometimes so rapid that it almost left like a circle of light going over here

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and over there. Sometimes two lights would appear and just stare at me within inches of my eyes.

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I thought it first that the lights must be a small light emitting diodes suspended on the end of

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nylon fishing line. Then suddenly a light would start to do a tap dance on the table,

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it'd be bouncing up and down on the table and you could hear it click as it rebounded from the table.

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And suddenly it went pop, went through the table and came out the other side. Now no nylon fishing

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explanation would have can't fit it getting through an apparent excitement.

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Well it was a solid object of table.

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The lights also had another rather strange trick up their sleeve if I may talk about light as having

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sleeves and that was to pass through bodies.

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I was actually used as a guinea pig in the early days to see how it felt and to develop the phenomena

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and this light would actually enter through my chest and then three minutes later it would

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probably pop out of the arm or something in disappear across the room. This was being developed

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to reduce a heating phenomena. I have this bad knee and at one point we had a light that was moving

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around the room and rested on my knee for a minute and suddenly moved inside my knee.

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Yeah she just went into my bad knee.

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I could feel it moving around in my knee and then all of a sudden shut out the back of my leg and

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took off. The pain was greatly reduced and the swelling that had been in it that day was gone and

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then that was a huge wonderful thing to happen.

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This is how it's declared themselves delighted by these displays but they were astonished to hear

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voices of what they say were spirit personalities talking through the mediums.

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We had a thousand hours of communication during the school experiment.

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A thousand hours of continuous communication with the spirit world.

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We have a lot of big questions.

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Emily, why did you live on the earth?

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I was a long time ago now. 19th century. Yes.

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In this dramatic form of spirit communication the mediums go into trans during which time they say

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spirits take over their bodies and speak through them.

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It's the love. It's like spirit. Right.

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Right. And the rest doesn't matter at your feet.

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So what's it like to supposedly talk to the dead in this way?

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It becomes very natural and actually talking to somebody who is deceased if you like.

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It's a natural thing. Purely and simply because it's the same as you talking to me here in this room

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at this very moment. There's no difference other than the fact that we are aware that they're no longer in this world.

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And it'll be fine today.

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But could the mediums have just been acting?

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The researchers didn't think so.

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The voices were quite different from those of the mediums and soms.

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And the personalities behind the voices were not only quite different,

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but were very consistent even the accents were.

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But it wasn't just the consistency of the accents that impressed the researchers.

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They reported that the personalities also remembered every detail of all conversations

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spoken to visitors over a five-year period.

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Add to those skills the ability to read minds.

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This apparent occurred when the female spirit spoke to the group.

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She would tell us what was going to happen. She would comment on what we were doing

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and sometimes what we were thinking. She would answer our questions quite frequently before we'd

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actually asked them, which was quite embarrassing sometimes.

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Thank you for your warm appreciation. What we're trying to do.

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This communicator identified herself as the spirit of a Mrs. Emily Bradshaw.

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And Mrs. Bradshaw, who was a very commanding figure, a lady of the upper class

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Victorian or Edwardian lady, which she sounded like that.

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We could take you from our solid life to influence people still in the body.

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But what evidence was there that these voices were really from the deceased?

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We knew that we were communicating with deceased personalities,

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because a number of people who communicated with us were able to be identified

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by independent witnesses at the time who could testify as to them being

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people they knew, evidence which couldn't possibly have been known by anybody else.

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But what's it like for the mediums to have these ethereal communicators speak through them?

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Those sensations become more and more intense and build up to a point where I feel the personality

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actually taking part of my senses over. I become more and more unaware of my own body

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and also more and more unaware of my thoughts.

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I was a very proud woman.

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My mother died about a year and a half before my father did.

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And three days before my father died, she saw a vision of my mother.

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And was very disturbed when she suddenly disappeared.

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And I believe that his death coincided with that vision of her and wanting to see her again.

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Back at school visitors reported seeing an especially hearing these objects materialized

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from as of nowhere. In the language of physical mediumship, these objects are called

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airports. An airport is an object which is quite solid, which is brought from one location to another

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during an experimental session. But in so doing, apparently passes through solid walls, doors, etc.

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Well, the total number of airports that we had during the experimental session

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was about 80 or even more. Whilst we were sitting here, this object would arrive just materialized.

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And arrive on the tape, as it arrived, that's the sort of noisy woodmake.

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Despite the fact that witnesses heard a loud bang every time an airport arrives, no matter how small,

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skeptics have dismissed this phenomenon as objects merely thrown into the air.

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But the appearance of these airports are not so easy to explain away. These newspapers arrived

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in pristine condition, despite having originated in the 1940s. But who might have sent it to the

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skull group and why? The answer arrived, they say, when dead British medium Helen Duncan

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spoke to them by a one of the mediums. During World War II, Duncan's life was ruined when she was

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arrested and imprisoned for practicing mediumship. As she described her ordeal to the group,

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this newspaper allegedly appeared out of nowhere. To their astonishment, displayed prominently

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on its front page was the story of Duncan's trial and conviction. I think she suffered greatly

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for her mediumship, and she was really coming to wish as well, and she bought the news paper

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as a sign of it very turbulent time in her life. The scientists knew that an old newspaper

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could easily be copied and printed onto modern paper. The Montague team had the suspect newspaper

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analyzed. We took it to the leading research station in England, indeed, in the world, on paper

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and printing. And it was absolutely clear from their report that, first of all, it was done on letter

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press, which has gone out of existence virtually since the early 1970s, I would say. It was

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newsprint produced during wartime, which lacks certain chemicals, which you couldn't get hold of.

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So this was a genuine article, which appeared 50 years after the event, but no one has been able

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to explain how it got there. So where did all these are ported objects come from? We were told by

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the spirit team that they were never stolen, but, but, basically, objects had been lost or discarded,

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or at one time been owned by the spirit personnel at the brought-in for us.

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Back in Italy, we were given unique access to film one of Barty's private seances.

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But, Ching, now you have to sit somewhere and see, not in my bag, not in my bag.

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Somewhere that you can, yes. Despite the loss of this camera, we were allowed to continue using

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this nightshot camera to record the sails, which took place in total darkness.

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As the sails progressed, the medium went into trance.

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We were hoping to capture what visitors to skulls said they had witnessed, the levitation

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of solid objects. However, minutes later, we were asked to switch off the nightshot camera.

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But, secretly, we kept it running, and what we captured was truly astonishing.

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This heavy oak table rose into the air.

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But levitations were not the only phenomena we witnessed during these seances.

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Like the skull experiment, visitors to Barty's center say, they have received a ported objects.

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This woman is one of them.

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This is a port that has received the central batches.

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The central batches are in a space where these things are incredible.

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One can see one of the names of the people, but not all of them.

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Because the one who was killed is the levitation.

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Once again, we were permitted to use nightshot cameras in the hope of capturing the arrival of an

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a port. We were not disappointed. With the medium in trance, the camera crew were astonished when,

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out of nowhere, they felt these flowers falling on them.

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With the lights on, people reacted in amazement and just how many flowers had appeared.

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This one is one in Egypt.

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As they collected them, we continued our filming.

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Although we saw no signs of trickery, this sayons was not conducted under controlled conditions.

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Therefore, critics could claim it was possible for someone to have thrown the flowers into the room.

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But a port which has a specific connection to departed loved ones

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frequently appear at the center. Connections that Bachi has no previous knowledge of.

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Simple as the first time, he had a port, a DJ's fire, this big one.

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The idea to the fire that my son had heard of the photo I had been brought to the site

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to meet my son, but that he had never seen the idea.

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This woman said that a single red rose was appointed into her hands.

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She was also convinced it came from her dead son, because every week she told us she placed

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an identical flower on his grave.

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As impossible as it sounds, for this rose really have been sent from the other side.

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I'm not sure that I do believe in the art life, I think it's because I have final rest when I die rather than have to think about coming back in for me out.

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Back at school, the phenomena were continuing to progress.

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The scientists were about to experience something even more shocking.

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Another thing that happened was that a hand materialized and sort of glued.

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And there was this disembodied hand floating around.

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When I told some of my friends about it, they said it sounded just like the Adam's family.

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When I commented to the medium, I said, I can see a disembodied hand, and she said,

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it's not disembodied. This was Mrs. Branchall, who was speaking through one of the mediums.

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And I said, you mean there's an invisible body attached, and she said, precisely.

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And then she said, would you like it to touch you? And I said, yes, so you said, well, ask it.

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So I said, hand, will you touch me? And so the hand went around behind me, and it tapped me on the shoulder.

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But could these hands have been hoaxed? This visitor who felt the drug-cated length of a disembodied arm

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didn't think so. And I was so startled, I moved my hand and traveled right up the sleeve.

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There was a sleeve like a cotton sleeve very much like this. Right up to the shoulder, and then it just stopped.

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There was nothing beyond the shoulder of what it did. And it was a really amazing experience.

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Sometimes we would be touched by these hands. Sometimes we would invite them to touch us.

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Sometimes they would touch us on our knees, let's say, or on our feet, which as it was a

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fraud proof table were inaccessible to the mediums themselves. So what's it like to touch one of these

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spirit hands? It felt cool, but not cold. It didn't feel clammy, it didn't feel slimy, it felt like

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a normal human hand, and it grasped my hand firmly. The unseen communicators told the scientists

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that they usually materialize the hand or an arm because it was easier than materializing a full body.

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But some cases that full bodies being materialized were a reported. I had the presence, the physical

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presence, and my mother, my father, and my sister. All in solid form standing in front of me.

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All of whom I was able to to hold to embrace carry out conversations with them. I witnessed it so

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many times, it just becomes a normal thing. Normal is a word strained by the experiences of this

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goal experiment. And there was nothing normal when patches of light floated over their

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scientists heads and slowly changed into spectral forms. The diffuse patches of light could take

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the form just a human face, moving round the room with the direct voice very, very faintly coming

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from the diffuse patch of light and the lips moving again very faintly.

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As I stared at the face, it was noticeably smaller than an normal size head. But within face itself,

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features were clearly visible, because the gistening of the eyes, because the eyes moving.

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And even more remarkable forms were to appear. They looked like

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angelic forms.

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And I was very fortunate that one came and landed on my hand.

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And just the energy that you felt from it when it connected with you,

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was a lovely experience and it just felt like an overwhelming feeling of love.

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These are great experiences you see. Again, I must stress it changes your paradigm. You go

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in thinking none of this can be true, but after experience, after experience, after experience,

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it gradually dawns on you hey, there's something going on here, but we can't explain by normal

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scientific laws, but which never lasts exists.

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Years ago, I was staying in this old very old end, and I actually saw somebody

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come out from the wall and walk through and just just bear it going. And I just believe there

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are people that are trapped between here and the next world.

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The experiments featured in this program have been described by the scientists who witness them

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as some of the best evidence for life after death ever. After two years of intense effort,

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this goal experiment began to produce more phenomena than in any medium-ship experiment

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and the history of the paranormal. There are initial claims were that they were in contact with a

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group of deceased entities who were producing with their help, a number of pictures of either deceased

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persons or strips of films, which they claim to be produced without any cameras and in the dark.

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To eliminate any possibility of hoaxing, the scientists brought their own film and

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locked it in a specially designed security box. The box was held in the hands of the investigators,

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so that no one could get at it. And then immediately afterwards, we were taken out of the box

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ourselves so that no one else touched it and then developed it ourselves in a special machine.

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Despite all these precautions, the experiments continue to produce the incredible images

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seen here.

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They were able to achieve whole lengths of film, sometimes up to as much as four feet,

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with various words, symbols, messages, all sorts of different things on that film.

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Other films contain poems and centuries old German and fragments of Greek,

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Chinese, Hebrew, Latin and even Sanskrit. The Skolgrupur ordinary people

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but no knowledge of these languages.

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But did these films have a purpose? If dead personalities were producing these images,

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why did they apparently design some of them as complex puzzles? Providing something,

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which is a puzzle which is difficult to solve, is simply because it is difficult to solve,

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it isn't readily available, it can't be easily attributable to the person sitting around the table.

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Despite lengthy investigations, the possible authors of some of the films, like this German poem,

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proved impossible to trace.

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But others were easier to track down. This one contains a poem by Frederick Myers.

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Intriguingly, Myers is one of the founders of the SPO, and a passionate researcher into the

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evidence for life after death. Before he died in 1901, he promised his colleagues at the SPO,

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that he would try to communicate with them from the other side.

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Could this film actually represent evidence of the afterlife sent by one of its greatest

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investigators?

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Mostly the researchers were unclear as to who might have created these films. However,

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their work clues as to who the ghostly authors might be in the form of initials or signatures.

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For example, in this film, the signature appears to belong to the dead singer and actor,

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Ivan Nebelo. This was received on one of the school films,

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compared to Nebelo's actual signature.

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Investigators say these images were created in total darkness. But how?

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I think that those pictures can be explained only by imagining that the

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spirits can project their recollections and images onto a film in some way we can't begin to understand.

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The original terms of explanation is they are all fakes,

410
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I don't believe that there's evidence that is the case. Although the mechanism for their creation

411
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,280
remains a mystery, investigators concluded they were unique. As far as the photographic

412
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,280
evidence is concerned at school, the strips of film, it has in my view never been anything like that at

413
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:05,920
all ever. As far as I'm aware, I don't think there is any scientific evidence for all I have to do.

414
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,840
Spuridon by the photographic experiments, the school group began a series of video experiments

415
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called Project Alice, after Alice through the looking glass. Their ambition was nothing less

416
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than to try and capture moving images sent from the spirit world. The school group insists that

417
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:41,840
instructions on how to position the camera and mirrors came from their spirit communicators.

418
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,480
They were told to set up a video camera in the dark cellar, aim at at a pair of mirrors so that it could

419
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:58,080
only film its own viewfinder. While it was recording, nothing unusual was seen. But when the tape was

420
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:07,920
played back, these remarkable pictures appeared. We had images on the video, sometimes of what

421
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:16,320
looked like a tunnel of light, other times spirit faces or coming towards us.

422
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Sometimes what appeared to be a doorway moving.

423
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:37,200
Skeptics claim these images were created by video feedback, occurring when a camera records its own

424
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:45,200
output. But scientists have ruled this out, video feedback doesn't produce this kind of result.

425
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As to what these extraordinary pictures represent, we can only guess, since their meaning was never

426
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:03,440
explained to the school group. This video also totally unexplained appears to be a ghostly face

427
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:13,360
with moving eyes. Later, a few video experiments were attempted in full light. Again,

428
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:19,840
nothing unusual was seen during the recording. However, on playback, this unwirledly figure appeared.

429
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:26,720
The first time I saw a ghostly face, I was surprised that I was able to see the ghostly face

430
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:34,080
in the dark. But it was impossible for the school group to affect these images.

431
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Not according to the investigator who monitored these experiments, Swiss lore and businessmen

432
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:46,320
but to hand share. It is absolutely no possibility that this film could have been prepared

433
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:52,560
before because I selected one of the video films which was in the original packaging,

434
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:59,840
which I opened. I took the film out. I signed the film and I put it personally in the video camera.

435
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:07,760
He inserted it into the camera. We never touched at any stage the camera or the film.

436
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,640
We're going to be played there, the film, it showed at the beginning a number of bubbles

437
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,640
of various colours.

438
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,320
But there was one particular bubble on there in which the face of a person appeared.

439
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,680
And it was a man with spectacles. Although Dr. Sherr did not recognize this face,

440
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,320
the school group thought it might have belonged to someone who was trying to communicate with him

441
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,320
from the afterlife.

442
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,280
I have heard of the electronic voice phenomenon and I think he's actually one of the most

443
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,680
disturbing and unnerving aspects of the notion of there being an afterlife.

444
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:11,600
A tempting to capture spirit voices via technical devices like radios and tape recorders

445
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:17,680
are the long tradition that goes back to the last century. Today there are tens of thousands of

446
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,960
people around the world who say they have captured the voices of the dead on simple tape recorders.

447
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:34,320
This is known as the electronic voice phenomena, our EVP, and was recently popularized

448
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960
in the Hollywood Blackbuster White Noise.

449
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Despite the Hollywood treatment, EVP has been the focus of serious scientific investigation.

450
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,680
One of the leading researchers is Alexander McCray, an electronics engineer who has worked

451
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:01,040
on communication systems for the space shuttle. He has been investigating EVP

452
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,680
for decades. There's so many came up to me in the street and said there's nothing paranormal about

453
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:12,640
EVP. I would say well I've done at least 20 years, hundreds of experiments and I know that it

454
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,240
is paranormal effect. Now how many experiments have you done?

455
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,560
But skeptics insist that EVP is nothing more than the random pickup of broadcast signals

456
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:30,720
like radio and TV. To test this theory McCray tried to obtain EVP inside a laboratory

457
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:37,200
that was fully shielded against radio and soundway. This meant it was impossible to pick up

458
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,920
any stray broadcast signals. So inside a little bottle you couldn't pick up anything.

459
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,760
But yet the device still produced voices.

460
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,360
Although this audio sample is hard to understand, the very fact it was recorded

461
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,920
defies all known laws of science.

462
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:08,960
One experimenter of EVP is Vicki Talbas who lost her son Braden in a boating accident in 2001.

463
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Okay I'm coming down into Wildcat Cove right now, which is the cove that I sun departed from

464
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,440
and did not return.

465
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,880
Ever since then she says she can record and recognize his voice using this digital recorder.

466
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:40,800
Well that's Britain. What has really convinced me is the way he speaks the stress, the

467
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:47,680
intonation. Sometimes he sounds exactly as he did in life.

468
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:55,600
Happy New Year. He will use certain phrases that we use to use.

469
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:05,120
He will say certain things that will identify himself as the person that he was in life.

470
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:14,240
I am convinced personally that I am communicating with my son.

471
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:22,880
Like visitors to school and to batches center, EVP practitioners find comfort in the belief

472
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,440
that they can still communicate with loved ones.

473
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,520
But even this conviction can't make up for the unbearable burden of losing a child.

474
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:37,280
These just make me want to cry, just looking at him.

475
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:50,080
This never be this age again. Or do that again. What matters is the love that you have for

476
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:59,200
your family. That's what really matters and not to screw it up. And to remember they could be gone in a

477
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:10,400
poor house. These other people I feel so sorry for them because they have no way of

478
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:17,440
communicating with those that they have lost and they go around thinking if only if only.

479
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,080
I don't have to think that. That's a good thing.

480
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:37,840
Although EVP provides some comfort to the bereaved practitioners say that the voices are often

481
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,920
unclear, always one way and frustratingly short.

482
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:55,120
One way that we also communicate with spirit and which was a very effective way was by use

483
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:02,080
an ordinary very cheap type recorder who was amplifiers were used by the spirit team to carry on

484
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,920
a two-way conversation with us. We inspected this machine and found it was completely normal.

485
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,400
Earlier it's built in microphone had been removed to eliminate the possibility of recording

486
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:19,120
anything. When the machine which contained a blank cassette was activated, witnesses were astonished

487
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,240
when they heard this voice asking them a question.

488
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,760
The school group say that their spirit communicators suggested ways of improving their

489
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:49,760
experiments. For example they told Professor Ellison one of the SPR scientists how to build a

490
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:58,480
device for boosting communications via the tape recorder. But this information arrived in a very strange way.

491
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:12,320
These images appeared after an unexposed film locked in the security box was later processed

492
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,840
by the scientists. The scientists speculated about who was providing this technical information.

493
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,480
Then initials at the end of the film seemed to have solved this mystery. I wrote to the

494
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:31,120
Edison Memorial People in America and they sent me a copy of one of his letters which contained

495
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:36,160
his initials which looked almost identical to the signature on this film.

496
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:45,520
This matching set of initials convinced the researchers it was Thomas Edison providing this information.

497
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:52,640
Not only was Edison the world's most famous inventor, he also had an enormous interest in the

498
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:59,920
possibility of an afterlife. His intention to build a machine that could communicate with a

499
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:07,840
dead, made headlines around the world but he died before being able to build it. Is it possible

500
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,520
that through the school group he finally achieved the same?

501
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:21,440
My understanding of life under death after death is what we've done here the way we've affected

502
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,960
people about us and things that we do and it lives on through them.

503
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,360
Spirit voices speaking through the medium. Spirit communication written on

504
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:42,880
seal film in locked boxes. All these incredible phenomena but could the scientists have been tricked.

505
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,280
Skeptics are often unaware of the amount of experience in the amount of knowledge that goes

506
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,640
into investigations of this kind. Between the three investigators you could say we'd had 50 years

507
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:59,520
and more. We know all the tricks. I don't see how it could be fake. It's impossible.

508
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,560
Nevertheless, was it possible for the school group to have perpetrated a massive hope?

509
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,320
These things are so extraordinary that when one tells them to people who have not had the

510
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,200
experiences themselves they think it must be trickery and the challenge then always is okay you

511
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:29,280
duplicated. But so far no one has been able to do this. Nevertheless, critics still claim that

512
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:35,680
the events at school were produced by the kinds of conjuring tricks used by stage magicians

513
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:41,280
and entertainers. As you fail in the minis man and I like this you say. Because professional

514
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:51,680
magicians learn all the skills of illusion and misdirection. They are also well qualified

515
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:59,760
to detect this type of fraud. With that in mind James Webster was invited to scrutinize a number

516
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:06,320
of school sessions. Webster's a member of the magic circle in Britain and has been a professional

517
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:15,840
magician for over 40 years. Well I had an opportunity to give a similar I could see no magic

518
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:23,520
props or anything which made me feeling client and there was any hoaxing on or trickery.

519
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:29,600
But could you replicate the events at school? I could not do it myself as a professional

520
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:35,840
magician. I don't believe in any magician that I could do even the lighting. There's a

521
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:46,000
loan the other phenomena that I witnessed. Anyone of those in the seller I say they were wasting

522
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:53,680
their time doing this here and nothing and they could be earning a million dollars without their

523
01:01:53,680 --> 01:02:00,640
state.

524
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:17,520
In 1999 after an exhaustive two year investigation the investigators published their conclusions

525
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:28,160
in the SPR's official proceedings. They were looking for evidence of a hoax. They sifted evidence

526
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:34,720
for signs of fakeery but did they find it? If you take all the phenomena within the whole of the

527
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:41,280
school experiment over two years while we were there I would say that the possibility of fraud

528
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:49,760
was no. Although the school report includes theoretical discussions about how individual phenomena

529
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:56,080
might have been faked the chief investigators concluded that events at school cannot be explained

530
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:05,840
either by known scientific laws or by trickery. But psychology professor Chris French,

531
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:12,640
the co-editor of skeptic magazine remains unconvinced. There's lots of claimed evidence for life

532
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,040
after death coming from lots of different sources that debat should be about the quality of the

533
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:22,320
evidence. At the moment on the base of the available evidence I'm not at all convinced that there

534
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:28,640
is such a thing as life after death. I think the skeptics regard the possibility of a survival

535
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:34,640
of human consciousness as inherently so impossible that anyone must be rather crazy to believe

536
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,920
that when you look at the evidence you have to ask yourself whether you'd be even more crazy

537
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,360
not to believe it or to find some alternative explanation which makes any sort of sense and I haven't found one.

538
01:03:51,280 --> 01:04:00,080
When we die we're going to another world a lot of worlds. 33665 worlds.

539
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,040
I can be such a fair. Because I are in the Bible.

540
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:21,360
News of the amazing events at school spread around the world. In 1997 they were invited to hold sessions

541
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:29,680
in four European countries and the United States. Some of the most successful sessions occurred

542
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,880
in the Los Angeles home of Brian Hurst. We wanted to see whether it could also take place

543
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,720
so many thousands of miles away from school here in Southern California.

544
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:47,920
Hurst converted garage was the venue for eight sessions. As many of 30 people attended each one.

545
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,360
Great.

546
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:58,960
Before each session investigators carefully inspected the room. Many people went in at different times

547
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:04,160
before the sessions and there was no no paraphernalia there was nothing hidden there at all.

548
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:10,560
Despite being interviewed, I decade after the school experiment, these witnesses are still

549
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:16,800
profoundly moved by what they saw. There was so much phenomena going on it was really overwhelming.

550
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:26,560
As with most sessions visitors began by sitting quietly in total darkness then they started hearing

551
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,960
the voices of this spirit team speaking through the mediums.

552
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:36,960
Then the darkened room burst into life.

553
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,680
They're called, look at that. They're called, look at that.

554
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,480
They're like a firefly. They're quite clever.

555
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:50,240
And then it would go off to the rafters of the garage and come down and thunk hard like a big rock hitting

556
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,920
the table and then disappear.

557
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,920
As well as these amazing balls of life furniture in the room began to move. We had a table in the

558
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:05,520
center of the room that had crystals on it. It's moving. The table even dees love it. The table

559
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:13,520
levitated was turned on at side and began to spin very rapidly. The crystals never fell off.

560
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,440
Even if they're hadn't in crystals on the table, it would have been impossible to have turned

561
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:25,360
the table sideways and rotated it with the feed at which it rotated. And we could see this

562
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:33,280
because there were luminous stripped on the table. And it began to spin around actually so rapidly

563
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:42,480
it almost looks like a tin wheel. As well as familiar spirit communicators, other voices, the group

564
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,400
say belonged to dead relatives also attempted to communicate.

565
01:06:46,400 --> 01:07:05,120
I really do feel that my dad came and he was the one who put his hands on my shoulders.

566
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:11,760
The way we were situated in the room, my chair was right up against a wall and there was no

567
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:19,600
person to be behind me. Then another hand appeared in front of them. Who did it belong to?

568
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:25,520
There was a particular communicator called Rensh Lawrence who was an engineer in his lifetime

569
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:31,280
and who became very expert at producing voices from midair. Hello Red. Hello Red.

570
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,360
Very nice of you, Deb as yet. Thank you. I'm taking my hand.

571
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:45,360
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.

572
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,360
You've made my ear.

573
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:01,440
As usual, Lawrence did not communicate through the mediums. Instead the group could hear his voice projected

574
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,960
from different parts of the room. Some of the voices were moving around the room, even a high

575
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:13,120
up in the raptor area that somebody would have had to climb up on a ladder to get up there and

576
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:20,000
there was no way that that was happening. The spirit team also came to be regarded as healers

577
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,960
by the participants. How's he going inside you that light?

578
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,640
So my chest right now. So right there on my heart and I have a little bit of heart growth.

579
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:35,280
I was diagnosed with cancer and a very fast moving dangerous cancer. I sat with school and

580
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:42,000
probably two to three weeks later at Headby Opsies again and they came back completely negative.

581
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:50,240
All of the visitors attending the LA session said the experience changed their lives forever.

582
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:55,440
When you walk out of that room you definitely feel like you've been exposed to something very

583
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:07,040
we actually saw the spirits and that's got to be positive evidence for survival. We do live on

584
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:15,120
after death. They certainly proved that to us that night. Being survived in Opsies

585
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:21,920
and also my parents were killed in Opsies, including my last year all brother, who was killed

586
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:28,480
on the arrival is my current and I just cannot accept it because that should be the end of the

587
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:50,000
previously we have shown how experiments at school and with Bachri provide powerful

588
01:09:50,000 --> 01:10:00,320
evidence for life after death. Some researchers think there may be another possible explanation.

589
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:10,800
Could some of the remarkable events shown in this film be the result of human paranormal abilities

590
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,000
like psychokinesis, the claimed ability of the mind to directly affect matter?

591
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,440
There's an enormous amount of evidence for the existence of psychokinesis. In the laboratory

592
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:27,040
we're talking mainly about the evidence of human consciousness on random number generators and

593
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:32,400
very small events that can be totally controlled. There is clear evidence that people can affect

594
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:39,440
one of the most famous practitioners of psychokinesis Opsieke was a Russian haswife called Nina Kulagina.

595
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:46,640
Kulagina was able to demonstrate her abilities under strictly controlled conditions

596
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:54,960
in front of a team of scientists. Researchers who investigated her were convinced

597
01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:02,240
she was able to do this solely by the power of her mind. So could this go group and their visitors

598
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:07,280
on whistling have created some are all of the phenomena using mind over matter?

599
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:13,040
As an explanation, although it's not more than just a label to it, this is psychokinesis in

600
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:17,440
physical mediumship, whether it is a spirit working through someone who's spirit acting directly

601
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,680
on an object or the medium's mind causing the things to move?

602
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,200
Say there were real mind-event matter effects going on as opposed to country and tricks.

603
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:32,560
Then how do we know they were coming from the minds of the disembodied people rather than

604
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:37,680
from the minds of the mediums who were sitting in the room? There is no definitive answer to this

605
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:43,840
question. But the theory that these phenomena were juicolates to psychokinesis from the living

606
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,040
seems improbable since P.K. produced in laboratories tends to be weak.

607
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:56,560
Therefore mind over matter from the living is unlikely to explain the huge range of phenomena

608
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:57,920
featured in this film.

609
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:07,680
What did you live on the earth long time again? Like in the century? Yes.

610
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:15,680
We simply have a number of clues of information which was extremely unlikely to have derived

611
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:22,320
from the subconscious mind or the conscious mind of the medium. And the more impressive those are,

612
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:28,160
the less likely it is that you can say that this is an aspect of mediumship. And the more likely

613
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,440
it is, it's an aspect of discounted communication.

614
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:44,160
Previously we travelled with the school group to Italy where they first met with Machelo

615
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:52,880
Batchee. They say they were able to talk to the spirits via his radio. Come on, who's this? Come on,

616
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,720
here. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

617
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,360
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

618
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,360
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

619
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,360
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

620
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:11,360
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

621
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:17,520
There dead loved ones were bitterly disappointed. All they heard was static.

622
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,360
Batchee was depressed. He feared he had lost his unique talent.

623
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,120
Then in an extraordinary piece of luck, as our cameras rolled in an interview with Batchee,

624
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,840
the radio, which had been silent for so long, burst into life.

625
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:47,360
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

626
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,840
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

627
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:59,840
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

628
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:05,840
Come on, here we go. Come on, here we go.

629
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:15,600
Batchee's drought was over. When the radio voice stopped, there was celebration.

630
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:23,920
Batchee felt he'd regained his ability to communicate with the spirits.

631
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:32,400
But then joy turned to disappointment as he thought he'd failed to record the voice.

632
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:39,040
No, no, not part of it. No, it was part of it.

633
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,040
Oh, I'm sorry.

634
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,040
Oh, I'm sorry.

635
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:55,360
Once the recording was transcribed, Batchee told us the voice belonged to a spirit called

636
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,680
Gregorio, a Catholic fire who had died many years ago.

637
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:07,040
Later, in dependent researcher Dr. Torielo read the last part of this ghostly message.

638
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,680
Men, it passed his time just deceiving himself.

639
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:21,280
Okay, but when all of you will be here where we are, okay, then you will find answer to all your questions.

640
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,040
I'm so I cannot say more.

641
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,680
We do look down on our friends and loved ones after we die,

642
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:43,280
and tell such times we move on to some other dimension. I think you can think what you like, really.

643
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:56,880
Despite the evidence some skull and Batchee.

644
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,800
Hey, you're free, you're free.

645
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:06,640
Most scientists still refuse to even consider the possibility that consciousness might survive death.

646
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:15,440
Dr. Rupert Sheldrick, the internationally renowned biologist and skull investigator, offers an explanation.

647
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:19,520
There's a dominant materialism in science that grew up in the 19th century.

648
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:26,480
It's become part of the culture of science, but it's really a dogmatic belief system rather than a

649
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:27,440
testable theory.

650
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:34,000
What this means is that scientists have become completely focused on the things they can both measure

651
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,840
and replicate in labs.

652
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,080
Within science based on a materialist point of view, the mind is the brain.

653
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,120
So anything that suggests the mind might be more than the brain,

654
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,800
goes against the theory and therefore most scientists don't want to know about it.

655
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:55,120
Another prominent scientist not convinced that consciousness is solely the result of brain activity

656
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,880
is Dr. Charles Tart.

657
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,200
But that's just a small part of the spectrum.

658
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:04,080
Dr. Tart is a meritist professor of psychology at the University of California

659
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,840
and a leading researcher into the evidence for life after death.

660
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,240
The idea that survival of bodily death is impossible and that we're nothing but our

661
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:18,880
brains and bodies is really a function of an outmoted view in science and Newtonian worldview.

662
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:25,920
Now the Newtonian worldview works very well for every day of events, but one of the most

663
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,560
interesting things about modern science, especially when you look at stuff like quantum theory,

664
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,960
is that the world is far more mysterious than we think of.

665
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,440
We now have experimental evidence of what Einstein called spooky action at a distance

666
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,480
that we can instantaneously affect something in a distant part of the universe.

667
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:57,760
That's really wild. If consciousness has any of the qualities of this quantum level of existence,

668
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:04,000
then phenomena like survival of bodily death are probably not so mysterious after all.

669
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:25,840
But could quantum theory explain one of the most shocking experiments conducted at scolds?

670
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:31,760
This particular experiment was perhaps the most important experiment of the whole series.

671
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:40,720
Previously, we showed how visitors reported seeing these gaulls of life appear before them.

672
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:47,120
It's like quantum words. On this occasion, one of them flew inside a large quartz crystal.

673
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:53,840
The crystal then levitated. We could see it glowy and then descended into a

674
01:18:54,560 --> 01:19:01,280
a pyrach's bowl. Then Arthur Ellison was invited to pick it up. He picked it up and satisfied

675
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:06,480
himself that it was then it was glowing and he put it down again. He was asked right away to pick it up

676
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:13,760
again. He tried to and his fingers closed right over it. It's dematerialized.

677
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,880
Then he was asked to pick it up again and rematerialized in his hand.

678
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:29,600
This dumbfounded him. This is what finally convinced him that this was real because it

679
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:35,520
couldn't have been faked in any way. And he had his head right over the top of the bowl in order

680
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,040
to ensure that no hand or no instrument could interfere with it.

681
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:45,840
Of course he was totally amazed by this. Things do not materialize and dematerialize.

682
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,600
This is against all the laws of nature. We have trained scientists of course. We know how the

683
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,840
world behaves and it doesn't behave like that. When we really think about what it seems,

684
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:00,640
I'm the last to do this. We're not called yet. But what does this remarkable demonstration tell us

685
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:06,160
about what might happen after death? The spirit team told us that the experiment went the

686
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:14,160
crystal in the bowl gave a good example of what happened when we'd done in that the essence of

687
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:20,480
the crystal remained even when the physical part of the crystal had been removed. Our bodies

688
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:28,000
represent the physical part but the essence of ourselves remains the same. This, if you like,

689
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,000
can be termed as a soul.

690
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:48,640
If I believe in the possibility of life after death, what do I think? What happened after?

691
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,160
I don't know. I just don't know to you.

692
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:04,960
Well, I don't particularly want to have anything other than pure death and I would rather not believe

693
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:10,560
in survival but I find it impossible to be intellectually honest and not believe in survival.

694
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:18,160
Tradically during the production of this film, Montague-Kin died.

695
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:26,560
But this gave us the opportunity of testing whether or not he actually got his wish for oblivion.

696
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:32,720
This came in the form of Alice in Du Boat. Du Boat has become one of the most famous

697
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:38,400
mediums in the world after her abilities were dramatized in the hit TV show mediums.

698
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:45,440
That's you. When things come through that strong news, we visited the University of Arizona

699
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:50,880
where scientists were testing the abilities of America's top mediums. Here we challenged

700
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:56,080
Alice in Du Boat to contact the spirit of Montague-Kin. It's not the same.

701
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:02,960
It's when you're alive. She was able to conduct her mediumship in full light in front of the camera

702
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:09,360
with two researchers seated behind asking questions. Do you have any idea of this person this?

703
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:15,200
Du Boat wasn't given any information about Keen. The only thing she was told was the first

704
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:21,280
name of Keen's widow Veronica. In fact, that he gets to still be her around the people he love is

705
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:28,640
huge to him. Although many of Du Boat's statements were vague, some were astonishingly accurate.

706
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:39,040
Do you want down at a podium or now? He's showing a man falling at the podium like

707
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:48,800
like in falls and he goes down at the podium. Okay. This is important. So I can assemble.

708
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:55,760
On the night of his death, Keen was taking part in a debate at the Royal Society of Arts in London.

709
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:01,120
While defending his position, his voice faltered mid-sentence and he died.

710
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:09,200
He's here, he's on the street. Take it right.

711
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,960
No, I don't even know what it means. I mean, he's making me feel like either he had a heart attack

712
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,680
or his breath was taken from him. But he's showing him knees buckling and going down.

713
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:30,720
Is there a doctor in the house? People jumping up, like everybody rising, he goes down and they go up.

714
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:37,520
Also, there would have been like a banner announcement or a banner hanging of what this

715
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,960
conference was or whatever it was. He's kind of laughing and he's like, way to go out.

716
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,840
You know, like, way to leave this world, you know, right there and then.

717
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,120
Du Boat stated, the Keen is now as interested in communicating with the living

718
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,920
of the once-wals in talking to the dad. To try and understand better,

719
01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:02,320
like to understand the other side, what you guys are seeing that's right and what's not right

720
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,720
and almost to like try and help make that clear.

721
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:14,720
I do believe in an afterlife. I'm not sure what that life will look like. If we just go back into the

722
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:19,200
source. But I just kind of live my life like, we'll see when we get there.

723
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,960
Although some researchers continue to question whether the experiments featured in this film

724
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:38,720
represent convincing evidence for an afterlife for the leading investigators and participants.

725
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,520
There is little doubt it does. We actually saw the spirit.

726
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:48,480
Right, right, right, right.

727
01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:12,240
I think we were pushing the barriers further than ever been pushed before. And I think we just

728
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,280
got to the stage where at that time we couldn't go any further.

729
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:23,840
In 1998, after five years and 500 sessions, the skull experiment finally came to an end.

730
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:33,200
The skull experiment may be over, but today, initially, grieving parents continue to report

731
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,960
hearing the voices of their dead children on batches radio.

732
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:48,080
And Vicky Talbot says she continues to receive the voice of her deceased son, Braden,

733
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:57,280
Dia, EVP. But the debate about the authenticity and significance of this evidence continues to

734
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:04,720
rage. Now, according to science, when you physically die and when your brain stops functioning,

735
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:09,280
that is it, that is the end. The experiences that I've had have convinced me that it is very

736
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,920
difficult to explain any of these things by an alternative explanation to that of survival.

737
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:19,520
You're not going to win everybody. I mean, you're not going to be able to ever have everybody believe

738
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,320
that there's another side that's just not going to have that. I hope this significance of those

739
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:30,960
experiments will literally be to make people think, to stop and think, to look at their own lives,

740
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,120
to look at where they're going, perhaps to be better people.