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Okay, first slide. Of course, we have the incident, 1947, alleged to be an unidentified
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flying object, living out, part of it crashing on the Brazel Ranch, kind of north by northeast
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of the town of Roswell. This is the one where there are all kinds of other claims, like
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it was a Horton Flying Wing it was being experimented with. With the latest version that there
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were mutilated Japanese pilots in it, and it was being carried by a balloon. Another
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version is that there was a weather balloon. Another version is there was a mogul balloon
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which was used with sensors to see if it could go into the high altitudes and detect nuclear
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radiation from the then Soviet Union to see if they were testing atomic weapons. Most
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of the insiders have been in contact with, most of the witnesses who have come forward
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say that it was definitely, and they don't mince words about it, a spaceship from some
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other world. Okay, next slide. A very important figure in the history of this subject is
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Dr. Vannevar Bush, who was chairman of the National Defense Research Commission and
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scientific research and development during World War II. He was also on the National
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Advisory Committee on Aeronautics, which eventually became NASA. And chairman of the Joint Research
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and Development Board from 1945 to 1948, 1947, made a director of AT&T and he originally
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chose some of the members of the special study group which became known as Majestic 12.
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Next slide. Here was one of the original members of Majestic 12, Dr. Death of Bronte. As you
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could see, he was a member of the Atomic Energy Commission, member of the scientific
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advisory committee at Brookhaven. He had a lot of scientific credentials. Good choice.
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Next. Then there was Dr. Jerome Hunsaker and he was an expert in aeronautics and mechanical
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engineering and probably an advisor on the aeronautical design of this vehicle, this
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vessel that they recovered at Roswell and at other locations. Okay. Nobody, by the
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way, knew this was a top secret study group appointed by President Truman in 1947. And
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there was a leaked document around 1980 to researcher Bill Moore that spelled out, it
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was called the Eisenhower briefing paper by Rear Admiral Hillencoder, who at that
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time was in the lead position for Majestic 1 in 1952. And these papers talked about
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the crash at Roswell and a couple of other aeroforms of unknown origin that came down.
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Okay. Next slide. Then we had Dr. Lloyd Berkner, secretary of the research and development
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board, directed studies of weapons systems evaluations, and he was a member of the CIA's
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secret Robertson panel in 1953 on UFOs. He was also allegedly a member of this, one of the 12
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of the special study groups, one of the original members. Next. Not an original member, Dr. Robert
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Oppenheimer, well known for his, the Manhattan project at Los Alamos, allegedly was at one of
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the crash sites, the crash site that was near Trinity site, according to documents that were
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released to Dr. Wood, Robert Wood and his son. And when I studied where the coordinates were given
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in the documents, I was amazed to find that it was probably within 100 yards where the first atomic
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bomb was tested at Trinity back on July 16th, 1945. And Oppenheimer apparently in secret was sent
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to this site and he took three paperclip scientists, within paperclip scientists were these German
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scientists that were, had immigrated to the United States. They were, they were hired by our
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government to work, many of them at the White Sands Proving Grounds because of their knowledge of
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rocket technology, a superior knowledge they had in German science. And back in 1947, Oppie took them out
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there. And we'll have a next slide. And one of these was Werner von Braun, the rocket scientist.
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He went to Roswell Landing Site 2, was a great rocket developer. His mentor was Herman Oberth,
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who had made a statement that he believed that UFOs were interplanetary spacecraft that generated
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their own artificial gravity fields. And that would be the only way that he could explain
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how they seemed to nullify both gravity and inertial forces. So I know
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I've been in touch with an ex-NASA engineer who had a top secret clearance, who had cocktails
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with Werner von Braun one night. And Werner was there and he sketched what the craft looked like,
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he sketched what one of the alien bodies looked like. And Clark is his name, was looking at this
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napkin and said, boy, as soon as I can, I'm going to grab that napkin and put it in my pocket.
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Well, I guess that Werner was having a little bit too much to drink and his hand tipped over
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his drink and it just doused the napkin and of course wiped, smeared the ink all over it. So
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that was the end of that. Next. Another paperclip scientist that went to landing
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site two was Dr. Ernst Steinhardt and he apparently was an expert in aeronautics
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and meteorology. So that apparently there was a storm when this craft came down and he was
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consulted on that. He was one of the paperclip crew and part of the pioneering rocket group at
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the White Sands Missile Range. Okay, next. Then there was Dr. Hubertus Strughold. By the way,
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these are all in the Aerospace Museum of Honor in New Mexico, Alamogordo, New Mexico. And he had an
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MD degree and was one of the first doctors in the School of Aviation Medicine at Randolph Field,
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Texas. And he was very active in the Air Force, Aerospace Medical Program. Wonderful guy to have
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out there to give an evaluation on the bodies that they found. Next. This is a photograph that
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is only recently seen the light of day. It was leaked by a scientist from Los Alamos. It was
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evidently taken in the, oh I would say, I'm going to say it was probably taken around March 15th.
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And I say that because it was taken in 1958 and on March 15, 1958 the first conference was held by,
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and I was the one to identify the center figures general, Ennis Whitehead.
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The first to sit down and draw up an alleged treaty with the aliens called the Tau-9 Treaty.
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A treaty which allegedly, according to Dan, is renewed every nine years.
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And we have not identified all of these people. If you look in their hands, they have cameras.
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One has a movie camera. There's another officer who's bending down here. Okay, next.
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Okay, this was the next photograph released in 1964. On the far left, we have identified that
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person as Dr. Oppenheimer. They're at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. They are probably
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headed up to Site 17 to make an exchange with the extraterrestrials. And in 1964, that's when EB2
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volunteered to stay here on Earth as part of an exchange program while one of our scientists,
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it was arranged that one of our scientists would be taken back to his home planet around Zeta Reticuli 2.
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Next. Here is the support team. This was taken in 1953.
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Must be almost 100 engineers and scientists. They were a majestic scientific advisory group.
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Way over in the front row, second from the left, is Dr. Theodore, a young Dr. Theodore von Karman,
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the founder of Aerojet, who had also participated in reverse engineering alien machines for Majestic Next.
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And believe it or not, we have one colored photo from August 2003 taken at Los Alamos and
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somebody had designated it was an MJ-12 reunion with Starlight teams Victor and Sierra.
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I haven't been able to identify anyone in this photo and I'm always looking for somebody who would.
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All of these are published in a new book by Robert Collins and Rick Doty. It's called Exempt from Disclosure.
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And if you go out to my website, there's a link to where you can purchase the book next.
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This, according to Dan, was his boss, John Mike McConnell, who was once the director of the National Security Agency.
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He's in private practice now. Vice Admiral, he is in the position of number one, MJ-1.
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Next. I don't know what number he has, but this comes from several sources that Admiral Bobby Ray Inman is current majestic.
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As you probably guessed, a lot of these members are aging now and they don't replace one of the 12 until one of them dies.
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Last year, one of them died. And according to the sources, and of course, I cannot verify this, but for the first time ever,
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they have chosen a woman to be a member, Majestic 12.
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Okay, next. Of course, one of the primary things they're engaged in is reverse engineering alien spacecraft,
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beginning with the recovery of the mysterious craft that crash landed near Roswell.
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And we're now beginning to get a lot of information about that.
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One guy who just recently popped out of the woodwork, retired in 2003, and he was head of security at Area 51.
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He had access to all areas, including S-4, and is now in a kind of part of a very small loop.
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He's now in a kind of a very small loop.
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He's now in a kind of a part of a very small loop.
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He's now in a kind of a part of a very small loop.
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In an email exchange, which he's trying to describe some of the testing he has seen,
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where we have put, we have used the alien disk, the alien propulsion, and we put a nuclear power source aboard,
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and avionics we developed for our Air Force pilots,
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because they cannot control a machine like the aliens do by their mind, their brain waves.
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They cannot control their minds as well as the aliens can,
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and they might sink up and then suddenly get distracted and go sideways,
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and there's a mountain, and that's as far as she goes.
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Now, as far as I know, people have been out there along Highway 375, including myself.
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I used to go out there during the middle of the week, sometimes in October,
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and even on October at night, I've felt temperatures that dropped to 22 degrees,
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because it's nearly a mile high up there.
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You can see the glow of lights in Las Vegas about 100 miles to the south,
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and way off in the distance are the jumbled hills,
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which separate the area we know as Groom Lake and the Groom Lake complex
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from the Papoose Mountain, or S4 complex out there,
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where craft would come up so high, glowing, kind of hover for a while,
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maybe testing a few things, zigzag back and forth real fast.
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One time, one of these craft decided to come right over the highway,
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and there was a guy named Gary Schulz, he took a photograph of it.
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When it did, it shows a dome disk.
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Came over the highway another time, and put down a beam of light
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right on this guy's truck, and then went and zipped back.
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I don't know what they were trying to do.
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We think there's also alien craft that visit out there.
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There have been craft reported of huge dimensions,
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like two, three football fields in length,
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you know, the size of battleships floating in the sky.
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Okay, next.
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Field propulsion is being considered by a lot of our young engineers today.
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I got the specs and drawings for this one from a guy named Mark Tamayan,
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and I have it on my website,
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and he wants to build field propulsion,
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electromagnetic, electro-gravitational field propelled craft.
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Okay, next.
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Here's the tester model of the Roswell Aeroform.
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Bill McDonald, a friend of mine, is kind of a forensic artist.
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He's worked with police trying to reconstruct faces.
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Well, he has reconstructed this from talking to multiple military eyewitnesses,
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and they said that this craft can change its shape or morph in flight.
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Well, guess what?
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We're testing morphing aircraft at Lockheed, out where I live in the Antelope Valley,
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and I even saw an F-15 that was fitted with flexible wings.
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So, next.
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Here's an animated drawing of the Palmdale plant,
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which has been awarded $9.3 million in an Air Force contract for a morphing plane, like this.
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This one, of course, is what they call an uninhabited aerial vehicle, UAV.
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Some of our pilots are worried that these kind of craft will become smart one day,
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and they won't need pilots anymore.
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Okay, next.
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One scientist working in the field of zero-point energy designed this prototype,
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and I was very interested in it, because it's very close to some of the things
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that I experimented with myself.
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By the way, you will see a paper on my website with a photograph of the device
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that I worked with back in the 80s, that I built,
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and I haven't really done too much since then,
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but I had some of my own ideas, and my ideas have morphed since then.
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And what's interesting, besides using a superconductor in this,
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he's talking about this, a plasma field within a torus,
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which I'm very, very interested in, because one of our sources from Lannel talked about
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one of the craft had a drive just like that.
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So this guy spent about a million dollars building a model and ran out of money.
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He's trying to promote it.
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Again, he has a website.
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Okay, next.
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Another thing that may have come from making a study of alien technology
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is nanotechnology, because these craft are not constructed the way we construct airplanes.
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They grow.
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These are the things that we use to build our aircraft.
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The way we construct airplanes, they grow these flying disks.
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And now we think maybe they're using nanotechnology,
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and this is called a nanotube, and it has a tremendous amount of strength,
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and the body of the spacecraft could store power.
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And if it could, then you wouldn't need heavy batteries.
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Services could bend themselves doing away with actuators,
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or circuitry could be embedded directly into the body of a spacecraft,
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and when materials can be designed on the molecular scale,
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such holistic structures become possible.
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So the lattice over here of carbon atoms on the left is a carbon nanotube.
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Okay, next.
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This is some of the new satellite photos, which are extremely clear.
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This shows the stated development of the Groom Lake complex at Area 51 today.
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As you can see, it's not something that's been abandoned.
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They could not afford to abandon this.
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Several, an Air Force General told me he has at least five underground levels
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that he knows of.
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Yes, there is still some alien technology underground at Area 51.
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Most of it is over about 10 to 15 miles away in Papoose Mountain
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at the Site 4 facility.
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Next.
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One of the ways that we can see that the aliens could get here from there
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without taking years and years, you know, 10,000 years to get here,
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I mean, you'd have to have an awful long lifespan,
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is using wormholes.
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And this drawing depicts a wormhole, which is a distortion of space
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so that theoretically you go in one side and come out the other side light years away.
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There's also a possibility that you can go into a wormhole
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and come out in an alternate universe,
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some scientists think, or in a different era of time.
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Okay, next.
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One way, one new technology being used for torpedoes and submarines
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is called super cavitation.
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And it's like making a bubble around the entire torpedo.
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And what happens is it removes the drag or the resistance of the fluid medium.
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And therefore the torpedo can move at super fast speeds,
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or the submarine can move at super fast speeds through the water.
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Likewise, an alien spacecraft has a kind of a bubble around it
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that it generates with its artificially generated field.
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It's a kind of an electromagnetic gravitational field.
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And this creates, it removes the inertial resistance
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of what I consider to be the space medium itself,
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which I define as a superconducting super fluid.
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In other words, it's a fluid without viscosity.
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Okay, next.
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And another concept, only it's a relativity concept,
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and here we're showing from the Star Trek craft Voyager from the series Voyager,
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is the possibility of, again, creating a bubble around the ship
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and moving it faster than light.
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And the ship is actually not moving within the bubble.
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Okay, next.
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Now the Z division was established in July 1945 to work on nuclear stockpiles.
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All the work there at Los Alamos revolves around nuclear physics
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or nuclear medicine, anything nuclear.
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And what they have done, because there are layers of classification, secrecy around nuclear projects,
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is they slide the alien technologies under it and make it even deeper.
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So Z division is one concealment of where they would have stored some alien technology next.
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And it got its name Z division from Gerald Zacharias, who was brought in by Robert Oppenheimer,
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and from the first letter of his last name.
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And this is just a photograph of Zacharias pouring a chemical into a molecular beam experiment.
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Next.
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All these technical areas, TA-49 is an area containing so many structures on the Los Alamos map.
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It's surrounded by a locked security fence.
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And it's located on the Frioles Mesa site near Bandelier National Monument,
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which is allegedly where Majestic 12 has a hidden meeting place.
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Next.
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This is a drawing, a leaked document of one of our projects.
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This is our thing where we tried to reverse engineer an extraterrestrial energy device known as the CR, or crystal rectangle.
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According to this scientist, we have a lot of these artifacts like the crystal rectangle in a vault below ground
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at Los Alamos that we don't know what to do with it.
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We don't even know how, totally understand how it works.
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For instance, under a microscope you can see that there's a lot of little black holes in this rectangle.
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They know that it uses a rare isotope of hydrogen, hydrogen-5.
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And they know that if you draw, let's say you draw 2 kilowatts of energy from this crystal rectangle,
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and by the way they have taken it aboard the shuttle, they've taken it into space to experiment with it.
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You draw 2 kilowatts from it, just keeps providing, and you say, well you need 10 megawatts now.
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Okay, draw 10 megawatts.
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It never depletes.
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Totally, our physicists don't understand the physics of it.
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And this scientist said we had to scrap our theories and start from scratch again.
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Okay, next.
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This is just the header of the top secret DIA report.
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Now according to this new security guy, he said the code word here is bogus for the DIA,
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and yet he said when he looked at the contents, like about this crystal rectangle, that's genuine.
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And he said, Mr. Collins, I'm surprised the FBI hasn't knocked on your door.
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Well the truth of the matter is there's another guy who's a friend of Collins, Dr. Kit Green,
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who's a medical doctor, who despite his protestations has also been briefed when he was a member of the CIA.
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And the FBI came knocking on his door asking about these documents and trying to tell him,
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ah, they must be fraudulent.
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Why were they so interested?
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Well right now they can't stop it because it's published.
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Okay, next.
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We had Jack Schulman and the American Computer Company talked about the Z Division
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and coming into possession of the lab shopkeeper's notebook that described a capacitor that had meant storage capacity,
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said to have come from the Roswell Craft, and they called it a transfer capacitor,
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and it could store 90 gigabytes of computer storage in the small device that he wanted to market.
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But after posting it on the Internet, he got into a lot of disputes,
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and he was talking a lot about the Z Division, and he had some visitors with official badges,
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and he kind of like decided to go low profile.
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Next.
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Originally on the, we had a guy in the 90s named Bill Youhouse, that was not his real name.
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He was a mechanical engineer.
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He was one of the first ones after Bob Lazar to come out and talk about working for the satellite government,
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working on a flight simulator, and here's a drawing of the simulator,
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and this was to train our pilots on flying these flying saucers before they get into a real one, right?
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And it had, it was on a gimbal so it could tilt up to 65 degrees,
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and the supervisor, or the advisor, the scientific advisor he finally met on this project was about five feet tall,
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spoke inside his head with his own words, and he was called Jayrod.
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So that was the first time we heard the word Jayrod, only we all mistakenly thought,
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ignoring a couple of things that Bill said, that his name was Jayrod.
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No. He was called AJrod because of symbols.
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He made signs and symbols, and interpreted these were very ancient signs.
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It looked like a J and a rod.
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When linguists started to study this, they said this is equivalent to the number 15.
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Mr. Yuhao spent 38 years playing a formative role in the ultimate unacknowledged special access project,
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the literally subterranean program for perfecting functional flying disks.
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Okay, next.
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I show here hydrogen-boron fusion focus reactor that Eric Lerner, who's a plasma physicist, is working on with other plasma physicists.
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It, and Bill Yuhao had mentioned that the aliens mined boron.
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That's one of the things that we're interested in here on our planet.
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And the fuel would be hydrogen and boron in this fusion device, and they're harmless, non-radioactive substances.
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And when they fuse, at extremely high temperatures, they produce only helium nuclei and no neutrons, no radiation residue.
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So maybe the aliens had some kind of a fusion reactor that they fed the boron to, but there's, like Yuhao's was fond of talking about a thousand different uses.
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Okay, next.
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Here's the Taurus device.
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This is a quote from the scientist Eben Kraft to Eben, extraterrestrial biological entities they called Ebens.
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While electric charges cannot be conducted from the charge-accumulating fluid, there's a fluid, directly through the toroid walls and edges,
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there will be a capacitive effect, which will accumulate charges of an opposite polarity.
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So I'm just showing demonstration here on the right.
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The one on the left was a drawing done based upon a craft that an abductee was aboard.
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Next.
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Here is an actual FOIA response given to John Greenwald.
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And this may be the first official confirmation that a Project Aquarius is related to UFOs.
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The top item here, which you can't quite read, is dated 10 May 1983 and specifies Wright-Patterson's FTD, or Foreign Technology Division.
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So now I think that's the end of that slide set, and we will go to the Project Aquarius.
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See, that's a good segue to the Project Aquarius.
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Oh, and here's the book, exempt from disclosure.
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There's a link on my bookstore, on my site at Astrosciences.info.
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Story of an Aquarium Scientist.
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There's my website, by the way.
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Note that.
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I have a lot of information I keep putting out there.
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Okay, next.
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Okay, now I'm going to introduce you to the man here, Dr. Dan Burish.
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Previously known as Dr. Dan Crane.
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He had his name legally changed in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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I have the court record on that.
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He showed an aptitude for microbiology when he was a young boy.
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He got his first microscope when he was only five years old.
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His first telescope a couple of years later, when he was only eight years old,
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he was taken under the wing of the Director of Pathology for a major hospital in California.
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He was born here in California, Southern California.
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I recently found out he had a reunion meeting with this doctor in Las Vegas recently.
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And he's very precocious.
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He's a brilliant man.
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He was taught the art and science of histology, medical microbiology very early on.
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So let's go to the next one.
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Dan was recruited in 1986, according to his story.
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And he is putting it down in detail in a video debrief right now.
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I'm going to just pause for a moment to tell you that what I'm telling you has become extremely controversial,
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just like the Bible is our case.
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But to an extreme degree, there's a lot of polarization.
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There are certain individuals on the Internet who have called Dan directly a fraud
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and a lot of dirty names, which he doesn't deserve.
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Others who idolize him.
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That's not me either.
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All I did was, I was alerted to the document that was leaked called the Q94 document.
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It was the most technical document I had ever seen.
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It had a lot of biological, microbiological terms in it.
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I first thought, 1999, negotiated with the lady who sent me a copy
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who was going by the name of B.J. Wolf at the time.
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It was just a pen name that she had on a book called Eagles Disobey.
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And it was about Inca City on Mars.
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And it was ghostwritten for Dan and two of his compatriots.
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And so she had to learn more and more about Dan.
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She said, as she did, she found out that he worked up at the Site 4 facility, Area 51.
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He was in black operations.
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Found out more and more about him, which story was not the complete truth.
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But it was enough to hook me.
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And in April 2002, she asked me for some help.
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And because her original intention was, we're going to spring Dan.
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And I'm going, oh yeah, right.
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What we'll do is we'll pick him up in a car.
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We'll transfer him to another car.
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We'll drive him down to Hollywood and I'll put him on a TV station just like that.
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Boy, was I dreaming.
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I don't know what I was dreaming that night.
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Anyways, that wasn't about to happen.
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Before I left for Las Vegas to meet with Marcy, she called me at work on a Friday in the late afternoon.
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Before I left, and she said, how would you like to meet Dan when you come here?
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And I said, can you arrange that?
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And she said, yes.
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And so I went over there in April 2002.
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Walked into our meeting place, which was in a library.
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And I first saw Dan sitting at a table.
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He had a briefcase open.
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He had paper spread all over the table.
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I was dressed casually, but I had a lot of hats.
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And I had one of these baseball caps.
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It said U.S. Air Force on it because I was in the Air Force.
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He saw this.
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He just grabbed all this paper, stuffed it into the briefcase that he had, shut the briefcase, grabbed it, and ran for the elevator.
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I said, whoa.
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I said, what's going on, Marcy?
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I'll handle it.
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I'll be back in a minute.
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She went, tried to explain things to him.
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About five minutes later, came back into the room, back into me.
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And he shook my hands.
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And the first time he was shaking.
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He says, you understand, I have to be careful.
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And I said, can we talk?
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And he says, let's go to a private room.
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We've got a private room.
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My first talk with him lasted about an hour.
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And I asked him questions.
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And during that time, he answered one question in such a strange way for a man who was a scientist that I about fell out of my chair because only somebody who had some contact with an alien would know this.
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And he looked at me and he said, you know, the aliens are numerologists.
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I went, yeah, I know that.
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How do you know that?
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And we got into a study of the special numbers that they like, like the number nine, which is a key number.
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This is why they renew their tree every nine years.
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2003 was supposed to be the last treaty signing.
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They said delay it one year until 2004.
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Why did they do this?
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Because of something he again told me during that first meeting called what drives the whole program.
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The reason for the cover up, which doesn't have to do with the fact we have ETs in our skies, is because of the doctrine.
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Of the convergent timeline paradox.
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And I said, what?
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What are you talking about?
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He said, well, you see, the treaties were renewed every nine years all the way up to the year 2012.
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Oh, 2012, boy, that rings a bell.
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Yeah.
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He said, well, we've been there before.
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That's when the catastrophe happens.
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And we're trying to sidestep around the catastrophe.
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You can't tell the people that.
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Where's this alien from?
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He's us from the future.
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52,000 years from now.
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Huh?
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Time traveling aliens that are us.
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Why is he in this gray form?
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He says after the catastrophe, a period of time, the human genome split.
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And one became the J rods and the other became tall, blonde Nordics.
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So that the old, it was like you take the left brain and split it from the right brain.
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And the qualities of one went one way and the qualities of the other went another way.
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And I say, I see.
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Nobody will believe it.
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Here's Dan at an earlier time standing outside the little alien.
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He was approached by agents that said they worked for the DNA Department of Naval Intelligence.
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Don't look it up.
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Doesn't exist.
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There's an office of Naval Intelligence, not a department.
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Bob Lazar had one of his tax forms.
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And there was a Department of Naval Intelligence on there.
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That was one little piece of evidence that journalist George Knapp had that Bob Lazar worked out at S4.
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When I talked to Dan's mother and father, John and Dodie Crane, John Crane said I used to help out Dan with his taxes.
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Because Dan's not real savvy with finances.
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And he's brilliant with science, with biology, with chemistry, but not with finances.
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And he said that was the same thing on his form that he got from the government.
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His W2, or H form, it said Department of Naval Intelligence.
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Okay, next.
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Here's just one thing inviting Dan to join the New York Academy of Sciences.
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He said that he got his Ph.D. from State University New York.
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There's a possibility that the New York Academy of Sciences gets new Ph.D. candidates, lists and sends them an invitation.
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We can get no confirmation that there was ever a student by the name of Dan Crane.
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Dan Beurich or any combination thereof at State University New York.
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We do have a notarized statement by a man who worked with Dan who said he was going to go into a business on the side with Dan.
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Called State University New York in 1995 and he confirmed at that time his Ph.D.
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We have another notarized statement from his mother that said she got it in one of these cylinders that you get in the mail.
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So he had that document and then it was handed over to his wife who promptly put it away in a vault and made it inaccessible.
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Okay, next.
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But we do know that Dan graduated from University of Nevada at Las Vegas.
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And here he is working in a chem lab.
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He wanted to be a medical doctor at the time because his grandfather died of cancer.
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He wanted to find a cure for cancer.
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He was excellent in the field of biochemistry.
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He refused to falsify some test results that one of the professors was experimenting with.
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I believe it was a layer trail on mice.
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At that time it was a popular way to treat cancer.
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And he refused to endorse the test results.
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And the professor said I can blackball you at this school.
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And he went home and his father brought him back and he enrolled in psychology.
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Just to finish up his degree.
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But he does have all the credits requisite for biology and even has a graduation ring that says BS in biology.
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Okay, next.
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Dan didn't always work up at S4.
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They only had him working up there a couple of years.
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I think from 1992 through early 1995.
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And then he lived in town.
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He was only called up every now and then in an advisory role.
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Or they would say get out your microscope.
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We want you to look at this.
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Different things like that.
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So he had taken a regular job as a parole officer with the sheriff's department later on in security.
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They were required to have jobs like this.
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Well, for one thing, majestic doesn't give him a paycheck.
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They will provide for his needs.
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But no paycheck, nothing traceable anymore.
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Especially since Lazar opened up his mouth.
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So his wife worked, he worked.
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And he wanted to follow up on something he had learned directly from direct communication with the J-Rod.
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Which was to drill down into ancient bedrock up here on Frenchman Mountain.
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Which is on the east side of Las Vegas.
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Coincidentally near where John Lear lives.
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And there he picked up a sample of something down in the bedrock that he looked under a microscope.
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And this is when he discovered this amazing particle he calls the Ganesh particle.
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We do not know what it is.
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He believes it's some kind of, well, I believe it's a form of micro-magnet.
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And he discovered it.
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We do not know what it is.
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He believes it's some kind of, well, I believe it's a micro-form of what we call ball lightning.
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Or plasma.
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But this thing carries a program.
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And it seems to emerge when a crystal is electrically stimulated with a certain voltage.
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And it seems to emerge out of what he calls a portal.
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Now what does it do?
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Well, he discovered if you put a cell, a denuded cell or damaged cell, near this Ganesh particle,
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it generates what in biology they call a cross-bridge.
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And a cross-bridge connects with the cell and regenerates.
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And it's gone way beyond that to the point where he now thinks.
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On any planet where you have silicon dioxide, which means you may have oxygen in the atmosphere,
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silicon dioxide in the soil, where it can form crystals, you may get these Ganesh particles.
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And it may be these Ganesh particles that generated the first monocells,
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prokaryotic cells, or ancient archaea cells, and maybe even further on,
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eukaryotic multi-celled creatures.
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But, and I agree with him here, because the more and more I studied molecular biology myself,
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I had to go to class at UCLA to try to keep up with some of the terminology.
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I also came to the conclusion being that I am an information technologist,
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and I've worked with computers and worked with codes,
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that DNA is a code, and that code contains an instruction set.
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And it seems like out of all the DNA in the human genome, 93% of it seems to be inactive.
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But now they know it's not what they used to call junk DNA,
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but that this DNA also plays a role in producing what DNA produces,
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which is polypeptides, amino acids, and chains of molecules that become proteins,
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which become the structure of our functioning bodies.
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It's all as if it were designed by a magnificent intelligence.
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Of course, myself, I have gone to the point, because of some of my own personal experiences,
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of reaching the conclusion that the entire universe is expressing a substrata of itself,
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which is encoded.
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All of its laws, all of its rules, everything from subatomic level on up is generated by code.
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Okay, next.
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These are the diagrams done professionally.
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According to Bob Lazar, the first level, Papus,
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it's actually Papus Mountain, not Papus Lake, Papus Lakes on the other side of Papus Mountains,
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just a dry lake, carved into the base of the mountain,
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is a lab containing nine hangars with nine separate disks.
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Like he said, we don't know how we acquired these, whether they crashed,
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whether they were given an exchange, whether we shot one down,
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but he worked on one particular model he called the sports model,
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because it was like a jazzy sports car.
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Okay, next.
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Now, this drawing was done according to Dan's description
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of underground level four, where they installed later on biological labs,
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and a special level five, where an elevator bypassed level four
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and went down at a slanting angle to get down to level five,
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in which there was a special, he said, environmental chamber,
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in which the j-rod, who was suffering from a peripheral neuropathy,
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because of some kind of degeneration in the system,
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was housed in a special environmental unit,
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and there was a suite, which he called the ambassadorial suite,
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and you'll hear and see Dan talking about that soon, if I hurry up.
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Okay, next.
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This is a drawing that Dan did of the degenerated j-rod
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from reticulum four.
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Okay, next.
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Here's just a star diagram of zeta reticuli, one and two.
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Next.
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Here's a picture of Dan spending his time looking through microscopes.
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Next.
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Here's a photomicrograph showing a Ganesh particle emerge through a portal.
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Okay, next.
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Here's just a scheme he has called hyperspace to earth,
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a notion of how the lotus works.
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He calls the whole thing lotus,
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and he believes it comes from a divine source.
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Okay, next.
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More micrographs of the Ganesh particle emerge through a portal.
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Oh, the Ganesh particles.
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I brought up the term bio photons.
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He asked me to do some research on bio photons
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because I'm more familiar with physics,
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and I did so, submitted a couple of papers on this.
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He made those papers part of his project papers
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and delivered them to Washington, D.C.
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And I went, what did I just do?
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Okay, next.
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Dan is now retired.
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He's of March 2005 in emeritus status with respect to Majestic 12.
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So as you can see, when I first met him,
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he was still operational, serving as science director of Project Lotus.
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Okay, next.
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And here's the book that I wrote, soon to be coming out.
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They're working on the galley proof right now.
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I understand this process will still take another three weeks.
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So I may not have copies of this until next month.
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Okay, that's the end of the slides.
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Okay, the first question, Dan, they want to know is,
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where did you work in the mid-'90s,
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and how did you come to be employed there?
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Well, several locations in the mid-'90s.
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I had some cover positions here in Las Vegas,
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which made me look like a good old-fashioned Joe.
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In fact, I had had some police experience at the late-'80s.
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You're probably centering your question around the work for the government.
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In 1986, I was approached while working as an undergraduate student
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in Dr. Burt Bell-Baberro's office in his parasitology laboratory, to be exact.
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I was looking through a scope at the time.
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Three gentlemen walked into the laboratory, closed the door behind them.
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There was two uniforms and a suit that were present.
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Both of the uniforms I would make as most probably being United States Navy.
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My memory of that one event is kind of hazy
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after seeing all of the suits and uniforms and whatnot.
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We spoke for a while.
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They asked me if I was interested in seeing the world and the like.
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I told them I, in fact, was.
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We went through several interview processes, not unlike this,
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and reviewed my background.
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I went through several background investigations.
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Finally, starting up the 1991 timeframe, I was cleared for working,
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passed groomed to the Pattoos Mountain facility,
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a place that doesn't exist, about 90 miles from here, the nowhere place.
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That's how I came to work there.
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My original assignment was at the groomed lake facility to review histopathology slides.
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I went through nearly a year's testing and then was basically let loose for a year,
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and I heard no contact from them.
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After that, I was brought back in and shown some higher grade slides of unknown origin.
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Following that, I was introduced into a working group
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and subsequently brought into the Pattoos facility, the Site 4 facility.
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We worked for well over a year on the slides of unknown origin.
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After I took a minimum leadership position under several of the other biologists who were already present,
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most of which are now deceased, you know the names of those individuals,
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I was then introduced into the Level 4-5 facility, and the 4-5 coded for 9, you're aware of that.
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That's an ancient history.
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What we did is introduce the new members, myself amongst them, into the clean sphere area,
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and we were eventually shown the subject for which we were examining the slides.
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The slides were unusual in that they were in pressurized cells,
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and they were reviewed by us on a conveyor with a completely automatic microscope.
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We weren't touching anything. We'd give verbal commands.
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At the second instance, we were finally allowed to have a VRML-like keyboard for examining the slides,
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and I digressed, but then working with the JROD itself in the ambassadorial suite of the clean sphere suite.
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Now, was this under this Project Aquarius?
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Yes. Initially, I was assigned as a working member of Project Aquarius.
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Then finally, I was made an assistant working group leader.
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Mysteriously, after one meeting with the JROD, I was asked to take the working group leader position.
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I didn't find out why I was asked to take the working group leader position until, well, within this last year.
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I never understood it, because Stephen was older than I was.
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My senior was not only in ability, but in age,
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and I would have never figured being advanced above an individual like that in ranking within a working group.
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In fact, I never considered myself above him. We worked together.
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The Q94 document that you have in your position was co-authored.
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My name went on there as the primary investigator, so I was the working group leader.
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But in fact, he and I were both involved in the authoring of that document.
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Now, could you explain briefly what you were briefed on, on who and or what JROD was?
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Initially, I was briefed that JROD was an alien, specifically from the reticulum system, to reticulum 4.
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I had no idea the truth. Yes, from to reticulum 4, now.
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But I had no idea the truth of how they came to be.
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As I said to you before, I have never met an alien, but I have met an extraterrestrial.
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I found out subsequent to interactions with the JROD.
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And again, they have personal names. The term JROD simply means 15, which was a basing name for where they're located,
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the number of light years from our location.
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So they took those names, and they identified through the sigma protocols, the linguistic protocols,
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with a rod symbol, which was an inertia symbol, and the letter J.
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In fact, that was a combination of Mayan and Egyptian numerology having to do with a rod and a J, meaning 10 and 5 for 15.
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Okay. Now, 15 light years away, is that the Glees 876?
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876 Charlie, from what I've been told.
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Now, he did not specifically tell me that that was the location, but the number 15 was mentioned.
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They don't call it, apparently, Glees 876, whatever Charlie.
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How did JROD get here? I mean, how did he, you know, 15 light years away?
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He crashed at 63, from what I understand.
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Oh, was that right?
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Outside of Kingman, Kingman, Arizona.
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Right.
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There was a problem involving his physiology, and his biophysiological communication with the craft went wrong.
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And, of course, he's ill, as we know, with the MGUS and the paraprotein-associated problems.
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And it crashed.
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And how was he, was he transported immediately from that crash site to the S4 facility?
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That I don't know.
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Okay.
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That I don't know.
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You don't know how he came to be at the facility in the first place?
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I believe he and associates were transferred separately.
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He to the, originally to the Grutelake facility, and an associate to, I believe, Los Alamos.
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Los Alamos.
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I have no independent verification of where the associate went, though.
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All I can say is that he was there at Site 4, right?
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:16.840
Now, you interacted with JRod. Was there a general procedure for this interaction?
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Well, there was not a general procedure. There was a very specific procedure.
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Very specific, okay.
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After we would be brought in with our helper biologists, there was controlling helper biologists, those in the gallery,
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and then the introduction specialist, which was myself on a number of occasions.
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We entered the Clean Sphere through a large series of protocols involving pressurization and compartmentalization,
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no pun intended, until finally we were pressurized and fully encapsulated a TEC,
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a TES, total encapsulated suit for entrance into the Clean Sphere.
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Once we were pressurized and entered into the Clean Sphere,
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well, I should digress. We had a medical evaluation of all of that first.
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.840
But they ceased doing that after a couple medical evaluations.
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It was more, just interested, let's get you in and get the work done.
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I would enter into the Clean Sphere, and I was not supposed to communicate with the JRod at all.
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I was not supposed to know its name.
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The reality is we were communicating from the time that I entered into the ambassadorial suite,
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external to the Clean Sphere, talking back and forth freely.
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I could hear whatever he was projecting at me from thought, and he could very clearly hear what I was thinking.
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I say hear meaning perceive.
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I was supposed to stand over by a hologram projection system, which was around, it was like a teleprompter system,
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over to my right that would be run inside of the Clean Sphere glass,
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hold my hand up and mimic certain signs.
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And it became a joke. It really did. It became a joke.
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Those folks who were watching from the gallery, running the show,
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thought that I was standing there and mimicking the signs, and this was the only communication underway.
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They perceived on the day that the approach, the close approach that it may be,
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the grabbing incident that he did with me, they perceived that there was a communication that occurred.
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So I began getting questioned quite extensively whether or not he in fact was communicating with me,
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because he had promised not to apparently with the SIGMA unit.
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I alluded to the fact that there was conversation underway, but I didn't talk about what it was,
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until of course I was caught in my research protocol forwarding ideas that were somewhat different than what they expected,
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where they expected my research, my private research was going to go, and this is much later.
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And at that time the deal was brokered to find out about the doctrine for the convergent timeline paradox.
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I told them a little bit about what he showed me, a little bit,
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and they told me a little bit about the DCTP.
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Now that you brought that up, which implies travel through time as well as space,
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and you said that J-Rod was retrieved from a crash near Kingman.
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Was he at that time just traveling through space from the staging area?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah, okay.
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Yes.
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He wasn't doing any time traveling at that point.
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No, not as far as I'm aware.
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Okay.
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Not as far as he told me, no.
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Can you describe J-Rod to us, what he looked like and how he behaved?
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Yes.
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The gentleman with which I was associated was approximately three and a half feet tall.
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He had a dark brown appearance, very ruddy appearance to his skin.
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He was in a highly pressurized clean sphere.
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He exuded glycoprotein-like material through pores on his skin,
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which was associated with the neuritis, the neuropathy that we were dealing with.
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Did this have an odor to it?
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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I couldn't perceive any odors whatsoever.
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I was inside my...
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I would imagine.
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I would imagine.
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But I have no data set to say what it would have smelled like.
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In fact, there was nothing I read that indicated whether or not there was an odor.
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Why?
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I'm wondering.
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You've asked that before.
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That's why I'm wondering.
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Well, I've heard about this secretion coming through the pores of the skin before.
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And there have been those who have had encounters who say they could smell an odor.
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:07.840
Okay.
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:09.840
From the skin.
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All right.
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:13.840
Where were we?
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:15.840
You were describing them.
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Three and a half feet, large head in comparison to the torso.
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The ratio of the cranial to the torso area would be larger than what we would call a modern human being.
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:31.840
Large bulbous black eyes.
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.840
The whites of the eyes had been selected out.
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So it looked like large pupil, basically.
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.840
When you look into his eyes, you feel like you're going to fall into his eyes forever.
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And I think that probably had something to do with the telepathic nature of his mental structure.
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:51.840
Large arms.
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Length.
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Large length.
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Four very thin, sinuous fingers.
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.840
Nails.
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Not as long as presented in some of the images that you've showed me in the past.
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.840
The ones done by Tom Mack, was it?
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:09.840
Bill, do you have some?
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:10.840
Oh, yeah, that's it.
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:15.840
The Puppet Master photos.
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I'm smiling because Puppet Master leads me to other nicknames.
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But he was hunched over most of the time, could not support himself fully, given muscular atrophy.
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And that had to do with the peripheral neuropathy, which he was suffering.
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So he would grunt and move toward me almost in a flopping fashion.
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:51.840
Feet were large in comparison to what we would say our feet would be.
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:52.840
How many toes?
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:53.840
Unclothed, four.
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Four.
01:09:54.840 --> 01:10:02.840
He was unclothed, which bothered him.
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:09.840
He wanted to wear clothing and was refused at every turn.
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:16.840
Called himself captive and justified himself.
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:29.840
His feet were unusual in that his plantar area had a very large knob underneath what we would call our heel.
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:38.840
His facial features were grotesque in comparison to what he showed me what normal would be.
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:39.840
He was...
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:41.840
Normal of his type.
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:43.840
Yes.
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:56.840
He was bilaterally symmetrical to the extent that the disease process was not changing his facial features.
01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:58.840
Nose was recessed.
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:04.840
Not a nose like we have, but basically two operculum, four of us.
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.840
An extremely small mouth.
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:14.840
A hard palate, no teeth.
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:23.840
His musculature, again, it was suffering from the problem of the myoneural junction due to the neuropathy.
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.840
Do you have any idea what his chronological age was?
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622.
01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.840
622 years.
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:33.840
What is the normal life span?
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.840
That I don't know.
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:45.840
That number, 622, is now used as an important number within the community.
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:55.840
A reference, a request from 622 or a report from 622 could be from anybody.
01:11:55.840 --> 01:12:11.840
It's used in the fact the SRP report that I have with me today, the supplemental report for 0302 that I have, probably is labeled from reviewer 622.
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.840
It's going to be a cold reading when we look at it, but it's probably from 622.
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:21.840
They excrete in a manner that we would excrete.
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:25.840
Their external genitalia are different than ours.
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:31.840
The females have somewhat like vulva, but they have a clasper situation.
01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:35.840
The male has a male clasper, the female female claspers.
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:47.840
It looks like a disc with rectangular solids that are rotated into position for clasping at the inguinal region.
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.840
They do have internal fertilization.
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:53.840
Now this was something you read because you didn't see a female, did you?
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.840
No, this is something he showed me of his wife.
01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.840
Oh, internally.
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:00.840
Yes.
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.840
How was that image presented to you? Did it appear?
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:05.840
I was inside the image.
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:07.840
You were inside the image?
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:08.840
That's what it felt like.
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:10.840
Like virtual reality?
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:29.840
Yes. Everything that he showed me when this was the incident, when he projected it into me, it felt like I was there.
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:35.840
My sensations were heightened.
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.840
It was extraordinary.
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:45.840
Was there a background perceived? Was she an domicile of some sort?
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:58.840
Excuse the pun, a gray surrounding, very dull drab surrounding, almost like a concrete evacuation center.
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:05.840
You'd have evacuation zones underneath the hotels in case of mass casualties or mass disaster.
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.840
It was a very clinical environment.
01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:15.840
Were you impressed that he was kind of depressed about his situation?
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:24.840
He was extremely depressed. If we were to determine human, I'm not a psychologist, but I think he would be termed as politically depressed.
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:31.840
He wept, but he didn't weep outside. He wept when he was with me.
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:36.840
Could you estimate what his level of intellect was?
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:42.840
He was smarter than me. He was smarter than me by a long range.
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:44.840
Did he have a wide range of knowledge?
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:51.840
The mathematics that he showed me blew my mind.
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:53.840
Was that right?
01:14:53.840 --> 01:15:07.840
He showed me concurrently not only the equations for the rule of nines, but he also did so diagrammatically,
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:16.840
and he did so with three-dimensional, like a BRML system, where I was watching cubes come together.
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:28.840
So that if I was not understanding, apparently if I was not understanding the script, I would understand it as a child learns groups, group theory in mathematics.
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:41.840
He was highly evolved, highly intellectual, highly repressed emotionally.
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:56.840
When I was with him, I felt great happiness to be with him, but I could feel his great sadness, not only because of what he wanted to become,
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:09.840
not only because of what he knew he was by being present with us, but where he was and how he was being treated.
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:17.840
He was not part of the group that has to be catered to involving the T9 treaty that was just signed.
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.840
He wanted to help. He was willing.
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:34.840
When I went in, for God's sakes, I took well over, well nearly 300 individualized aspiration samples from his neurological system.
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.840
He would hold his arm out for me to take them.
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:46.840
There was no pain medication, and whenever I would fire the introduction system to remove the sample,
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to take the, it was an aspirative evulsion system, he would cry, and then he would just stand there and look at me.
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:56.840
There was a suction, wasn't there?
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Yes. In fact, I would bring the sample after the initial removal from his tissues into the introduction system,
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and then approve it and move it from there to one of the helper biologists.
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Usually it was Robert outside of the clean sphere, and then he would move it from there to be handled under our normal protocols.
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It was a level five, past our, you know, the BNBL system. He'd just stand there and take it.
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So, do you feel the communication that he established with you, when you were in contact with him, could he extend this communication over any distance?
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60 feet.
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60 feet.
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Definitely 60 feet.
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Okay.
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60 feet from the center of the clean sphere to the introduction ramp going down into the ambassadorial suite. So, at least 60 feet.
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So, you don't feel like he's been in communication with you since that time?
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No.
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Okay.
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Was it selective in some way? Was it willfully selective on his part?
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Yes. Yes. The folks that, the folks that, the folks that wanted to find out what he was saying to me,
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they knew darn well that he was communicating with me after a while, because I was smiling. I couldn't help it, because we were actually joking back and forth.
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And, you know, they didn't know. They didn't have any clue. They didn't have any clue what he was saying. So, it had to have been selective.
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They certainly wouldn't have pressed me like they did. After I woke up from the big attention scenario, I woke up outside of the clean sphere. I was drug out of there by Stephen.
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He finally got a secondary suit on and drugged me out of the clean sphere. They had no clue. They had no clue what he was saying. I'm sure of it.
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They were extra rough in removing my plug and my catheter and all of that business after I got out of the TES.
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Now, one of the things that I want to ask you now, departing slightly from this subject, we're going to ask this last question, then we're going to take a break, okay?
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And then we'll see where we go from there.
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I'm smiling. I'm smiling because I'm envisioning the lack of the lights.
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Yeah, okay. But everybody's been asking me why, and of course you're going to have to restate this again, why are you talking to us now?
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What is your intention in telling us about this, about your involvement?
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It's multifocal. It's multifocal. There's several reasons.
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The largest reason is not the most important reason. The largest reason from a personal perspective is to step out from under the black ops community and retire.
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I'm ready. I told you before, I see myself walking along a pond and not being bothered by anybody except for maybe a bird here or there and taking a sample and just taking my time and looking at it for fun, for enjoyment.
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And you're worried about your health, right?
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Well, my health is degrading, there's no doubt about that. The heart disease that I have is in fact degrading my health.
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I don't know how long that is, and of course that's within God's providence.
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So you would like to maybe have some freedom, to have some time of your own, to go to Walden's pond or something, right? Study to life.
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Disappear at Walden's pond. There are other reasons too.
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Without yelling the poor me scenario.
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Yes, people have a right to know. Other folks have screamed that. Some of them, I think, real, some of them phony as a $3 bill.
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Yes, they have a right to know what is going on. They have a right to know because this is their future.
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Or maybe not. And it depends upon our wisdom or lack thereof.
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This gets me thinking. The one thing that we've heard from the Brookings Institution study, the famous clamp study, was this would cause a great social upheaval.
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It would destroy our social bonds, our religious bonds. And in fact, when, I know I'm digressing but I ramble.
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Every time an individual is approached with the issue of would this destroy your faith, I have heard, this is my experience only, I'm sure there are going to be varied opinions,
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No, it would strengthen it. It would strengthen it.
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From a certain perspective, yes. From another perspective, no. The Brookings Institution was correct on a certain level.
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I'm going to suspend disbelief for a moment and walk with the idea that this is real.
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That the ruins that are present on the moon and on Mars, the ancient temples, were in fact, and are in fact, the gifts of our own progeny.
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Can you imagine what is going to happen when those temples, which were prayed to as the gods, are found out to be nothing more than the creations of men.
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That the men themselves, or those who were being worshipped, will fall headlong into the pool of narcissists.
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And maybe, that's a good thing. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe we'll find the truth, love, God, something other than buildings and stones and marble.
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Maybe we'll find out who he really is. Or she, it, or just us.
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And each one of you needs to decide for yourself whether he is speaking the truth. I cannot decide that for you.
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I'm just here like an attorney in court, my father was an attorney, presenting a case to the jury saying,
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This is, there's a good case for this man being who he is. And there is supporting evidence for this.
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There are a lot of things still that do not make sense. There are gaps, there are discrepancies, I admit this to you.
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But I feel fundamentally the core of this man's story is telling the truth. But only time will tell, and like he said, it is our future that matters here.