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We're talking about the possibility, and it's a real possibility, that this location is
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one of the leading technological centers, research and development centers, for some
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kind of a hideous biological program, even producing what may appear to be alien-looking
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creatures. We have the technology right now, as far as human genome projects are concerned,
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and biological projects are concerned, we have the technology to replicate or duplicate and
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create what may appear to be alien-looking creatures, and this is why we associate this
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with Alien 51. This location is definitely alien to our freedom. This is my personal belief,
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but this is why we call this Alien 51.
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Lou, you're really responsible for giving us the advertisement,
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the publicity that has brought attention to Area 51 to the world.
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Anthony, I think you flatter me. Actually, a young man by the name of Bob Lazar, a local
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newscaster by the name of George Knapp, made Area 51, talked about it. I followed the
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conversations I picked up on it, I made the trip out there, I made several with you.
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You had the first live broadcast before Larry King.
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That was just a stroke of luck. As hard as the government tried to convince everyone
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that there was no such place, but my question is what's really going on up there? And that's
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why I think the rallies that you're conducting are so vital, because the more you look,
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the more you'll learn. Now I know the area is heavily protected, guarded by Wackenheim.
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Well, it's a shoot to kill.
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That's pretty heavily protected. I know there have been some very strange experiences up
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there, but I know that because of you and some of the interesting speakers you've made
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available for these rallies that we now hold up there, the public has a larger interest
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in so far as what's going on.
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Now we've seen Netherlands TV, we have seen German television, Spanish television, we've
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seen French television. I brought up a crew from Asahi Television to do an intro to the
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X-Files. But the individuals that came out there came from Las Vegas initially. Now they're
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coming from all over the world. The real question is, we know we've developed more
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modern aircraft, the stealth aircraft, at Area 51, and that's hard to complain about.
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My real question, my real curiosity is what's going on out there that you cannot see? And
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by that I guess I'm making reference to the underground facilities.
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When I first came to you and said I believed there were experiments being conducted on
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human beings, when we first talked about cloning, that was before Dolly the Sheep, and we talked
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about anti-gravitational flying disks, the possibility of a live alien out there. This
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is explosive stuff. Now they fly individuals, workers, daily from the airport out there.
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Well they've all but admitted there is an Area 51, I think you've seen that nationally
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now. But why the government would lie?
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We're here at the Eldorado High School, the purpose, the hearing, to continue the grant
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or gift of your land to the United States Air Force. For what purpose? Commander Bill
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Persil.
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Well we have a big mission here that we do on the Nellis Air Force Range. Primarily involves
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the testing of aircraft, the development of tactics, and the training of aircrew so that
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we can be ready on a moment's notice to go anywhere in the world and do our job out
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in the United States and have its interests arrived.
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At the moment the commander and chief of the United States Air Force is before a Congressional
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Judiciary Committee on charges of treason, of sexual misconduct, of perjury. He's at
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the point or at the brink of impeachment. Now you take your orders from him, is that correct?
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That's correct, I do.
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Regardless of what crime he may be guilty of?
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Absolutely, he's the commander and chief and I'm responsible through the military chain
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of command and the appointed civilian authorities over here to work for the President of the
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United States.
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This is of course of great concern to many people who consider him to be less than worthy
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of the office. But in your capacity you're going to be asked to engage in acts of war,
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supposedly for defending the United States of America. There was a bombing recently
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in Cartoon in the saloon. There was no trial. There was certainly no conviction and to
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the best of my knowledge no evidence that there was terrorist activities. Who conducted
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that bombing of the Cartoon?
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I have no idea.
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Following World War II we had what we called Operation Paperclip and who knows how many
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of these German scientists were brought over.
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We're talking about Nazi scientists at the end of World War II.
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Those who followed them, those who have been around them, those who have learned, what
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kind of experiments are they really conducting? Assuming that they are.
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They were conducting experiments on human beings, Dr. Mingle.
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Now you say this but do you know this?
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Yes I do.
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You can back that statement.
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Absolutely. There's no question about that. You know that experiments have been conducted
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on human beings. We talked to an individual up at Area 51, at least Joe and Pat did, Tracey
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Wingfield. Tracey said that she had been brought onto the facility for medical experiments.
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I think I've heard stories that there was an actual alien life form living up at Area
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51.
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John Laird talked to me about a conversation that he had with Bob Lazar. He said, you have
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never in your life had any experience until you've met a real live alien.
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I can imagine.
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He was walking by and he looked over and there was this alien. He took out a piece of paper,
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drew out a picture and that's what he swore by.
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Do you have the picture?
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Yes. I'll show you a little drawing that he made of what it looked like looking through
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the window.
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This is the piece of paper that Bob drew that night. First of all he drew how the hangers
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were, 360 feet each 46 bays. This was the corridor, this was the window and those were
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the two scientists and the little gray. The scientists were facing us, the gray was going
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that way and that's what he saw through that window. He was very meticulous showing under
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what circumstances he saw it. This is the drawing of how the hangers fit up against
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the mountainside.
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So this is the gray here?
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Right there. These are the two scientists and that's the window he looked through.
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Oh I see.
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I find it a little difficult for me to believe that they, for lack of a better word, have
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captured our holding hostage, a life form from another planet.
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There's a small segment of the United States government that makes scientific and technological
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judgments from a knowledge base that is not available to the general public. If the following
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information is true, the United States government also makes judgments on a historical, philosophical
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and even theological level from a knowledge base that is not available to the general
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public. These are excerpts from some of that information.
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When I went to work I was flown from McCarran Airport in Las Vegas to Area 51, which is
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a highly secure government base on the Nevada test site. Area 51 is located about 125 miles
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north of Las Vegas near the Groom Mountains and the Groom Dry Lakebed. From Area 51 I
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was bussed to an even more highly secure facility located about 15 miles south of Area 51 called
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S-4. S-4 is situated at the base of the Papoose Mountains by the Papoose Dry Lakebed.
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The S-4 installation is built into the mountain and the nine hanger doors are angled at about
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60 degrees. These doors are covered with a sand textured coating to blend in with the
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side of the mountain and the desert floor. The hanger was equipped with typical tools
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and extensive electronic equipment. It also had a machine with an x-ray emblem on it and
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an overhead crane rated at 20,000 pounds. As part of my indoctrination into the program
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I would randomly be taken into a small room which contained a table, a chair and 120
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or so briefings in blue folders. I'd be left there to read for varying amounts of time,
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usually about half an hour. These briefings contained a wide spectrum of information
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mostly relating to aliens and alien technology. The gravity amplifiers of the disk can be
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focused independently and they are pulsed and do not stay on continuously. To me these
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reports were simply words on paper. So to keep from saying allegedly and supposedly
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in every sentence I'll relay this information to you as I read it since I've already put
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this disclaimer on it. This technology that you've learned about thus far was brought
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here by some alien beings from the Zeta Reticuli one and two star system. These stars are
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located in the constellation of Reticulum which can only be seen from the southern hemisphere.
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Zeta Reticuli is a binary star system which means it is two stars and is located approximately
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30 light years from Earth. These beings are from Reticulum four which is the fourth planet
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out from Zeta Reticuli two. The beings are three to four feet tall and weigh 25 to 50
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pounds. They have grayish skin and large heads with almond shaped wraparound eyes. They have
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very slight nose, mouth and ear positions and are hairless. These beings said that man
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was the product of externally corrected evolution. They said that man as a species had been
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genetically altered 65 times. They refer to humans as containers yet I don't know what
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were containers of. I haven't been in the underground caverns over there. Okay. But I've heard
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rumors that they go down like 15 levels. And you've been down in some of the tunnels. I've
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been in tunnels here at Area 51. Yeah Area 51 yes. And you described them yesterday as being
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about 70 feet across. Approximately yeah 70 feet across. I didn't actually measure
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them but that's you know two locomotives and a place to drive a big semi. These are different
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tunnels in the cells that you use for the nuclear. Those are different tunnels. I know
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what I know the tunnels. There was a gentleman here. I know the tunnel that he worked in.
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It's quite a large tunnel. It goes into the mountain not just a few miles but a few
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miles. And the purpose of those particular tunnels is for testing nuclear devices. And
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the tunnels that are going from the Groom Lake facility goes out across and underneath
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the Ticaboo Valley as I understand it. They're 70 feet across. I don't know too much about
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the tunnels but we find a new base out there. It was kind of interesting. I heard about
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it in 1983, 84. A friend of mine was in construction. And he was up there working on TTR. He was
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talking about test range. And I was pumping him and I said hey anything else going on
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up there? He said yeah as a matter of fact there is. He said over on another range they
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were building something. Then I talked to a guy who drove a fuel truck up there and
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he said yeah. He said once I was delivering fuel up to TTR and he said will we come in
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and get a cold read. He said I had to wait for something like an hour for a procession
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of cement trucks going by. He said it was just unbelievable how many cement trucks
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there were. And the facility is called Sandia. And I'll show you where it is. It's in
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Paiute, Mesa. And they started in 1980 and they finished in 1987. I did a little story
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down here on channel 3 about it. And a guy called in after the newscast and said yes
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I'm from originally from El Paso and I was hired to work on Sandia. And he said yes
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we started in 1980, finished in 1987. It's totally underground. You can't see anything
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above ground and believe me I tried even though the closest point you can get to it on the
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You're going to show me the picture? Where it runs? The location of it? Yeah. The closest
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you can get to it is 25 miles. And it's a long ways. The guys that fly into it say
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that when you land there, and I'm talking about EG&G special projects, they take the
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passengers in and out. They say you can't see the runway until the last second. And
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then they land, they're not allowed to ever get out of the airplane like up at Groom Lake
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they can go in the cafeteria. At this place they have to sit in the cockpit. They're
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not allowed to get out. When the passengers get out he said they just go behind a little
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knoll and disappear. Not in true stairways or whatever. But there's nothing. You can't
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see anything up there. It's really, it's very well hidden. And during the Gulf War
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a friend of mine talked about it. I think this technology of hiding runways came about
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in 1980 because I heard about it then but I didn't have any examples during the Gulf
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War. During the Gulf War I worked for a cargo company that took, that did a lot of flying
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into the Gulf. And although this didn't happen to me, it happened to a friend of mine where
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he got down to Cairo and got just south of Cairo about a hundred miles and got vectored
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by the American Airwax for delivery of what was in the airplane. And it was at night
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and they couldn't see anything and he was told when to put his flaps down, when to
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put his gear down. And at 500 feet lights came on and he landed there. They unloaded,
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took off and went on his way. Since we navigate by inertial guidance he knew exactly where
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he was and he had occasion like a week later to come over the same spot. And it was just
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the middle of the desert. There wasn't a trace of anything. Nothing. So they have really
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good capability of hiding runways. Now people think Groom-like is a one of a kind facility.
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And it is a very big secret facility. But like in 1980 there was 30 other what they
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call AXOs, aircraft access only. You can't drive in it. In 1980 there was 30. So today
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there may be more. There may be Las Vegas. This is Las Vegas. This is Highway 95. This
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is Highway 93. This is Mercury. This is Beatty. These are the places where I was trying to
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hike up to. They were the closest to the border that you could legally look in the Sandia.
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Here's Sandia. When they built it they put this extra little security range around here.
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There's absolutely no indication that anything is there except an enormous power line going
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right into there. And it just stops now. Coming from where? Coming from down here. Maybe
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down as far as here. This whole area is NRDA where they originally built the nuclear rocket.
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All that facility is there. This is the famed Yucca Mountain where they want to store stuff.
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This is Groom-like. That's the new strip there. TTR is up there. The orientation of the runway
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is there. On December 23rd I was flying a mail contract in a DCA. I came by this way,
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just to the north of here, going into Oakland. I tuned in Dreamland 120.35. As a matter
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of fact, if you want to listen to them going in and out I can put it on the scanner because
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I've got a big antenna to go through here. So it was about 5.30 in the afternoon, real
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cloudy, real dark and everything. So I just turned on 120.35 and said, Dreamland, Dreamland,
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John Lear and Bob Buzar wish you a Merry Christmas. And you know that nobody answered me.
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And I had a friend of mine, in fact you know him, Bruce, whose father had a huge amount
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of land out here near Vegas, filled with gravel. And for eight years they were picking up
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gravel in these trucks, driving them up the 375, driving them out to the Groom Lake facility.
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For eight years they were driving day in, day out, Sundays, Mondays, holidays, every
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day, building that facility. You can imagine how much concrete would be in there. Probably
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more than is out there at Hoover Dam.
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Alright, let me just make one thing clear. I'm not going to debate the possibility,
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but for the record, as of this moment anyway, it's strictly a rumor, maybe based on credible
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people.
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They call him Jared for whatever that's worth. But you know, we were talking at the restaurant
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about Tassie Wingfield, worked in the Navy. And she had been out there on two different
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occasions. She had been abducted and brought out there for medical experiments. And in
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the middle of the night she was on a bicycle trying to breach the perimeter of the base,
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and they picked her up and she wound up at the little alien. And she explained, well,
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she told Joe and Pat about this experiment that she had had.
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Well, you're talking about a girl named Tressie. She was told that she had been taken on to
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the test site twice, abducted and taken on to the test site. And both times that she
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was taken, that there was another woman there from somewhere else, the same woman, both
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times. She tried to attempt to get back on to the test site. Of course, she wasn't even
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close. She had rode in circles most of the night on a bicycle. So by the time she had
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been brought in here by someone, she was pretty cold. Because people don't realize how cold
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the desert gets at night.
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Was Tressie from the United States of America?
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Yes. That's what she said to us. And in fact, I got a letter later, kind of verifying that
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in fact she was. Security forces came in and asked about her, and the only information
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I could give her is, give them what she had told us.
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Did she at first think that you had called security on her?
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Well, that was after the fact. This was sometime down the road, because she said that security
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had gone to her in Hawaii and talked to her there.
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Now she knew the name of a colonel out here on the base, is that correct?
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Supposedly she did know the name of someone, a colonel on the base.
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But she was abducted and brought out to Area 51 for?
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She said that she had been abducted and that they had done some probing on her. Experiment.
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If they're smart enough, let's assume for a moment that it came from who knows where.
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If they have that kind of technology, do you think maybe if they really wanted to,
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they could avoid anyone catching, capturing, holding hostage, locking up?
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Who knows that if there is an alien named Jared out there, that it is a captive.
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I mean, Jared may be the Commander in Chief.
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I take a look at this area right here.
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If one came down from the Hancock Pass and went out the really large, late road towards the facility,
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I notice there's an extra 4,000 acres that were given to the Air Force for additional security.
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Why was that 4,000 acres given?
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Much of the land that you see here, 97% of it in fact is fairly impacted by Air Force use of the ranch.
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The 97% that I'm talking about is actually used for safety and security buffers.
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The footprint of the weapons that we use these days, the amount of land that's within range of one of these bombs that we can draw today is quite large.
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Therefore, we need a large buffer for public safety.
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This is the amount of bomb falling in their backyard, and that's what this is here to protect against.
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Well, the 4,000 acres, which would include the White Sides and Freedom Ridge, which overlook the Groom Lake facility.
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This falls within the category of safety and security buffer.
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Safety and security. Why was it not safe and secure to be on the mountain a week ago,
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and then two years ago, three years ago, it was safe and secure?
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Why have you asked for the additional 4,000 acres?
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I understand your concern.
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Yes.
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There certainly is a process that we go through, a legal process,
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guided by the National Environmental Policy Act, the laws that we have in this country,
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to carefully consider each land and draw in this process.
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There are many classified activities that occur in our range.
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Obviously, if we're developing tactics and testing aircraft such as the F-22 and the V-2,
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we don't want to give an opportunity for potential adversaries to be able to watch what we're doing.
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It's sort of like having a football practice and having the opposing team that you can play the next weekend
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come in and watch that practice.
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Well, in this country, the conservative camp, or the, quote, vast right-wing conspiracy, if you want to call it,
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are very concerned about what's happening at Area 51, the Groom Lake facility.
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Does the Groom Lake facility exist?
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The Air Force has acknowledged the existence of an operating location near Groom Lake.
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The Secretary of the Air Force, though, has reviewed the nature of that installation and its classification
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and determined that the classification of it is proper.
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But for the safety and security of the people of the United States and anyone going up on the White Sides
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and the Freedom Ridge, is there any reason why they would be not safe if they went up there now?
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Again, much of the range land that we have here is a safety and security buffer.
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The lines are drawn this way in order to provide both public safety when we're dropping live munitions
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as well as security for the classified tactics and other things we might be developing on the range.
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There has been a number of individuals who have gone to hospitals claiming injuries or diseases
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or great trauma and stress as a result of having worked out at the Area 51 or Groom Lake facility.
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And yet the Supreme Court just days ago has denied their claim to any renumeration for injuries done to them.
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Some people have said they've been discarded like toilet paper and simply flushed away.
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What is the Air Force's concern about these individuals now?
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The Air Force is proud of its environmental and occupational health safety record.
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We are, like the rest of the federal government, subject to public law and public oversight.
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The National Environmental Policy Act and the Resources Reclamation and Conservation Act, RIPRA,
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spell out certain codes that we have to comply with.
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All of our activities on the range are inspected by the EPA and state regulators.
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But these individuals have claimed injury and one individual has something like scales on them.
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And they claim to be dying. And yet if you were concerned about that, what have you done about that?
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It's not my job to do anything in particular about any of that. I have no personal knowledge of these cases.
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But again, the Secretary of the Air Force has reviewed this information carefully
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and determined that the classification of it is important and right.
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Well, that might be classified as to how they got into the condition they got.
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Have you been using bacteriological, chemical, or biological warfare weaponry on this range
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which could have caused that damage to those people?
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Again, information related to that facility is merely limited to the acknowledgement of an operating location near Birdlight.
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Other information associated with that is classified. We will not discuss it.
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I talked to people who have become fairly well known to mainstream media.
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I'm trying to remember their names and right at this moment, bear with me, I don't.
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But they were driving along the road in a truck. And whoosh, you know, and they were captured and they were experimented.
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Days later, they were released and now they're out trying to sell the story and I think they've written a book about it.
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On the evening of August 18, 1992, two men from Edinburgh, Gary Wood and Colin Wright,
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left Edinburgh to travel to the small village of Turbrax in West Lothian.
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And it's a journey they've done many, many times before. They have no interest in UFOs.
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They're driving down this road which in part is bordered by fields on either side.
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The odd house here, rolling hills, and the odd cottage there, very desolate.
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Driving down late at night, talking about that day's events.
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And then suddenly, Colin, who was in the passenger seat, alerted Gary to a strange black disc shaped object
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which was hovering roughly 20, 30 feet above the road, motionless, tremendous black shiny sheen on it.
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And they're looking at this and they knew. They knew that this was not a conventional helicopter or a conventional aircraft.
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And they decided not to stop the car and do a three point turn.
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They decided that the best course of action would be to put the foot down hard on the accelerator
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and drive quickly underneath this object, if you can imagine this.
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And as the car was directly underneath this hovering object, this object emitted something like heavy silver snowflakes.
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Just fluttered down and hit the car.
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Now as soon as this effect hit the car, both men were enveloped in total and inky blackness.
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They couldn't see their hands in front of their face. They couldn't see the dashboard of the car.
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They couldn't see each other. They didn't know where they were.
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Now seconds later, or what appeared to them to be seconds later, they regained their sight.
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The car was shuddering violently on the road. They didn't stop and they just screamed to their destination of Tern Brax.
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They knocked on the occupants door who they were going to see.
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And the occupant says, where have you been? You're an hour and a half late. You should have been here ages ago.
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The journey, Chris, should only have taken 30 minutes and they were overrun by an hour and a half.
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Now the thing happens here, but that night, and nights subsequent to that, they had strange, terrible nightmares, dreams, imagery coming into their mind.
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They found scars on their body which previously were not there.
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That says, look, chaps, incredible story.
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Would you consider going under hypnotic regression just to see if perhaps something else happened that night?
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How you doing, Roger?
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Okay, Anthony. Have a seat.
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Yeah.
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Go ahead and slip your shoe off.
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I really didn't come in here to talk about my foot.
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What's of great interest to me and I think to the people of the world is the fact that we may be visited from aliens from outer space.
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And your investigation into this phenomena is at the pinnacle of the whole discovery.
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Are we being visited by aliens or extraterrestrials from outer space?
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Are they in fact doing experiments upon us and implanting us with biochips or transponders or something of that nature so that they can monitor what we're doing?
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I mean, I read in your book that the implant that you extracted was apparently in the joint of the right toe.
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Well, as a matter of fact, it was in the great toe but in the left foot.
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And the surgical procedures that have been performed for the nine surgeries have shown us that these are all so far on the left side of the body.
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The left side?
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That's correct. We don't know the reason for this, whether this just happens to be a statistical coincidence or whether they're supposed to be that way.
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But in the future, when more of these procedures are done, we will be able to answer that question.
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Now, the other doctors that worked with you, cooperated with you in these surgeries, didn't they feel like they were a little bit on the cutting edge and that they might be rebuked by their peers for even engaging in such a...
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surgical operation?
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Well, interestingly enough, all of the individuals medical-wise that have been working with me on these procedures have tremendous interest in what I'm doing.
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So therefore, let's say it's their scientific curiosity which compels them to assist in these kind of things and therefore the ridicule factor or the TEE factor is not there.
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Now, Patricia was your first patient and it was followed by a fellow named Paul, whom you described as sort of a grizzly-adams-like character.
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And where did he have his implant?
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His implant was located in the top side or the back of the left hand.
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And you had cooperation from another doctor in this area?
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Yes, a general surgeon colleague of mine was the one that performed that surgery.
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Roger, when you extracted the implant, you had a pathologist review the material surrounding the object.
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And you noted in your book that there wasn't any inflammatory substance as would be the case in, like with the bullets or anything of that nature.
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It was non-existent. Was this a surprise to those in the laboratory?
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That was one of the first surprises, certainly for me and I'm sure for the laboratory personnel that saw this, because all foreign objects after entering the body, no matter how long they've been there, will engender some kind of an inflammatory response from the body.
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Those that are there for a short period of time, that either come out or removed, show evidence of what we call an acute inflammatory response.
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Those that have been there for a long time, such as war shrapnel and so on, when looked at under the microscope, show a chronic inflammatory response.
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None whatsoever.
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None whatsoever.
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When shrapnel or something of that nature goes into the body, doesn't it encapsulate the object to protect it from the rest of the living organism?
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In essence, that is the case in a simplified fashion.
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What happens if the body finds out that a foreign object is inside and it can't be moved away in the normal manner with the little cells that are able to digest and remove it, then the next best thing happens.
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And if these cells undergo a process called differentiation, they become fibrousites and then they begin to hold hands and lay down fibrous tissue.
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So, as you said, the whole object itself becomes separated from the rest of the body in this inflammatory sac that we call fibrous inclusions.
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But that wasn't the case in all of the cases that you've investigated insofar as the alien implants.
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That's correct. In all of these cases, and the longest one that we know that has been there has been there for over 40 years, that was in the gentleman that we were just talking about in the back of the hand.
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That had absolutely no inflammatory response whatsoever.
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Then when you had the metallurgy lab take a look at these objects, were they made up of materials that are existent here on Earth?
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The materials that we found or the elemental analysis did not show us anything unusual at all.
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It's when we looked further and to see how each of those elements were composed, and each element is composed of a number of isotopes.
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Those isotopes, for example, like uranium, we all know what it is, if you dig that, if you mine it anywhere on this planet, the ratio of those isotopes that make each element is relatively the same, within 2%.
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But if these same elements come from Mars or they come from the moon or another planetary body, such as an asteroid, the element itself may be exactly the same, but the arrangement of its constituent isotopes is different.
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And that's what we found with these.
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After having performed these surgeries with your peers in the medical field, has anybody of that group doubted that these objects were from another world?
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Most of the individuals, colleagues and surgeons that I've worked with know very little about this subject, but have scientific curiosity.
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And probably even the most conservative one, in his very little conservative way, at the last surgery, opened his eyes widely and said, my, this is unusual, isn't it?
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Well, when we're talking about unusual, in your guesstimation, are these objects that were removed from the nine individuals from another world?
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I don't know what other conclusion a rational person could put forth, other than looking at the situation just as it is.
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Here we have an individual who was having a surgery performed on them for removal of an object, which they don't know how it became that way in the first place.
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They don't know how it got in their body. There's no scar. There's no portal of entry. And the individual is alleging that he is an alien abductee.
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We performed the procedure, we removed the object, we sent it out for the most stringent of scientific analysis to world-renowned laboratories, and it comes back with constituents not from this earth.
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Now, what possible conclusion could a rational person draw, other than that he's telling the truth that these objects are not from this earth, and he's telling the truth?
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The short part of the story is we used a qualified hypnotherapist. Separately, we regressed these guys, and they began to discuss the typical abduction scenario, which is similar to Venezuela, Peru, Canada, America.
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What they said, very briefly, what they said was the car, after its effect came down and hit the car, they were stopped. The car was stopped in the road.
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They were forcibly taken out of this car by these small grey creatures, and as we know, these grey creatures are commonly seen throughout the world.
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They are indeed. Generally, as you say, three and a half, four feet tall, childlike body, large pear-shaped head, almond-shaped eyes.
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And they were taken independently into this object, stripped naked, and Gary found himself placed on a flat raised table, and he was subjected to some form of medical or clinical examination.
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It sounds bizarre, Chris, I know that, but in fact, Gary's wife refused to believe or support her husband.
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And until one night, she phoned me, she says, Mr. Robinson, can I apologise to you? I says, why? You know, I've always never accepted my husband's testimony on this.
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I says, yes. She says, well, last night, I was lying in bed next to my husband. I wasn't asleep. I wasn't asleep.
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And then suddenly, I felt my ankles, something on both ankles, and I was being pulled forcibly down the bed, and I looked up, and for a few fleeting seconds, I saw two grey figures at the foot of the bed.
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And she says, now, I 100% believe my husband, 100%. That case for me, because I was dealing with it, the sharp end, the front end of it, convinced me I've never seen two more honest, two more sincere people on this planet.
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I've never seen two more honest, two more sincere people in all my life. The evidence portrayed to me, which I've just briefly touched upon, was sufficient enough to take me off the proverbial, sceptical fence and put me back into the believers' camp.
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It may not convince your viewers, but what constitutes evidence? Is it a good photograph? Photographs can be faked.
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Yes.
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Videos can be faked. It comes from the heart. It comes from experience. And as a researcher, this is what we're trying to do, Chris, pull in all the parts of the jigsaw from different parts of the world.
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Well, there was one Mormon lady that Pat told me about, living at Rachel, and she was driving her car. She looks up in the rear view mirror, and she sees some green and red lights flashing, right?
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Okay.
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She says, I'm not speeding. Why would the sheriff be stopping me? It doesn't make any sense, you know?
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She looks back and she sees these lights, and she turns to the left out the driver's window, and here is a saucer.
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This is a Mormon lady, about 65. This is not a euphoolagist. I mean, this is the real McCoy.
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She looks out there, and she sees this craft about 150 feet out, and it is going about the same speed as her car, about 50 feet off the ground.
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Stays with her for about seven or eight seconds, and then zaps off.
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You know, the interesting thing, let me clarify my honest position on this. In a way, I hope we are being visited, and I have reason to suspect it's quite possible.
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The difference being that they are among us and we can't identify them because whatever they have done, they have taken on our form.
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But that's just wishful thinking on my part.
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A flying saucer is not really as new as people may think, and I know everybody talks about the Roswell incident, which I won't dispute for a moment.
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But the flying saucer, as we now know it, okay, whatever you want to call it, actually was developed in Nazi Germany about 1942.
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Well, you are talking about the Honobus and the real fighters.
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Whatever, they looked exactly like what people now call flying saucers. They were wobbly, they couldn't control the darn things.
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And the reason I mention that is it predates 47.
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Now, again, looking back, as I mentioned earlier with the restaurant, we had Operation Pepper Clippin.
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We got some of their finest Nazi minds.
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And once you start a project and you've got it 50, 40, 70 percent, to work on the bugs and to stabilize such an anti-gravitational unit is within reason.
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And, you know, over a period of time, I've got to believe we could have achieved it.
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When we talk about people from Planet X and who knows where, I've yet to be convinced.
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There's no question that they're out there. Now, you know Jordan.
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Oh, yeah.
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If he can't see it, if he can't touch it.
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I know. And I love the story.
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When he made the wrong way, Jordan, and he ran into a whole pack of the darn things.
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He sees three of them upstairs, and my God, he says, you know, he's frightened to death.
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One of the greatest sightings ever. He says, again, I've got the keys in the car, I'm going to run.
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You came up here basically as a skeptic, a capra, a non-believer, so to speak.
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You thought that a lot of these people coming out to the middle of the desert and nowhere were simply euphoologists.
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They wanted to see something, and half of it was a creation in their own mind.
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But you came with Paul, who's seen many things in the past, and Ivy West.
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And then you came over here as a little alien.
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And they said, well, if you want to see something, you're going to go out to the highway right behind us.
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And then you're going to go south, and about 20 miles, so a mile 29 and a half marker, and then to the west.
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That's where you'll see something. You can see S4 and any craft that's coming up from the Groom Lake facility.
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Instead, you went out to the highway, and you turned north about 20 miles, and you went to the east the wrong way.
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What happened in your mind to make wrong-way Jordan do that?
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I have no idea why I turned and went the opposite way, because Paul was sitting in the back seat,
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Ivy was sitting in the front seat. We just got to hearing that if you want to go anywhere, you go where the tourists go.
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You go south for 20 miles to the mailbox.
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I got out on the highway, and for some reason, I turned left and went north for 20 miles, and Paul didn't notice it.
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Ivy didn't notice it. We didn't notice it until we hit the 20 mile, and there was no mailbox, and then it occurred to us.
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We've gone totally the wrong way.
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Well, Paul?
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I think we had taken the wrong turn, because we were pulling out of the driveway, and Jordan was pretty excited,
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because he was saying, I think we may actually see something tonight, because I had been to a person who had psychic tendencies,
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and said, you'll be with a man, and you'll be with a woman, you'll be in the middle of the desert, you'll see something.
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He was kind of excited about that, and I was thinking, yeah, right, Jordan, okay.
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He goes left, and we were all just listening to that whole description about how something might happen,
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and that's how I think we ended up going in the wrong way.
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So both of you guys go northeast rather than southwest, and can you tell me what occurred next?
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Were you the first to see it, or was it Paul?
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No, no, no. When we got to the 20 mile mark, and then, of course, it occurred to us, we were going the wrong way.
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I stopped the car, and then I said, let's turn around and go back to the ALI-N, stay overnight,
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and then we'll go tomorrow night and do it right, go south.
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And so Paul and Ivy said, no, let's drive out into the desert.
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There was a beautiful new, like a well-kept dirt road out into the desert, and Paul and Ivy said, let's drive out in the desert.
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And I said that, and we're in the desert, and it's very overcast, so you're not going to see anything anyway.
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I don't want to go out in the desert. I want to stay on the highway.
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And Paul and Ivy insisted we go out a little bit into the desert.
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So I went out in the desert, and I knew we shouldn't have done that.
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And I started feeling about a mile out into the desert. I began to feel there's something wrong here.
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I got a very strong feeling that I had done something wrong.
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And I stopped the car, and I said, Ivy, Paul, I want to get out of here.
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I don't know what it is, but we've done something. We're not supposed to be here.
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I backed the car up quickly and started to take off.
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And Paul and Ivy said, look, the least you could do is stay for a couple of moments.
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We've come this far. We've come this far.
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So, and also, the mile markers go in both directions.
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So we did find a 29-mile marker there, and we turned around a few times, no black mailbox, you know.
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And so when we finally stopped to try to figure out what to do, there's virtually no roads out here,
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but we had stopped, and it was right next to this road.
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So we figured, okay, let's go down this road since we're here.
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And then we got down to where Jordan was talking about, and we had turned around.
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And we convinced him to stop so we could just get out and look, because we'd come that far. Why not?
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Yeah, and I did not want to stop out there in the desert,
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because now we're about a mile out into the desert on a dirt road, not on the highway.
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And I told Paul and Ivy, I don't like it. There's something wrong here. I feel it.
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And I want to get out of here. And Paul and Ivy said, no, at least stay here for a moment.
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So I said, all right. So we shut the engine off. It's totally overcast, totally overcast.
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We get out of the car, the three of us. You can't see anything on the desert late at night when it's totally overcast,
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total pitch black. The three of us stood outside the car.
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We couldn't have been out of the car, what, 30 seconds to a minute at the most, one minute.
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And all of a sudden, north of us opened up the cloud. The clouds kind of opened up a little bit.
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We could see the stars out behind. Three glowing white saucer-shaped, bluish-white saucer-shaped things came through that opening.
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Four more followed behind them.
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And I saw seven bluish-white glowing saucer-shaped things about the size that the moon would appear in the sky at night,
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like a silver dollar held at arms' length, that big. Seven of them right over our heads.
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And they were moving around, and I absolutely freaked out. I really was very legitimately frightened.
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Paul and Ivy acted like they were seeing Disneyland for the first time.
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They were jumping around saying, oh my God, how beautiful, look at this.
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And I'm thinking to myself, I don't know who this is, and I don't know what it represents.
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All I know is I've never seen technology like this in my life.
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What I am seeing, I don't want to stick around to find out what's going to come down here next.
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I got in the car, and I was frightened, and Paul and Ivy wouldn't get in the car.
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There has been discussion about the existence of anti-gravitational flying disks.
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Some people talk about them coming from outer space.
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Others say that they have been manufactured here in the United States for the purpose of creating an illusion
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of an attack from space like in H.G. Wells' War on the Worlds, in other words,
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to create a panning project to frighten the public and get them to surrender their rights for a little government.
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Do you now, or have you ever, tested anti-gravitational flying disks on the Nellis Air Force range,
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whether it be the S-4 area, nine miles south of the Green Lake facility,
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or out of the Green Lake facility, or any other base within the Nellis range?
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My responsibilities as the Nellis range commander are to ensure that we provide a good training environment
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for development of new aircraft such as the F-22, the B-2, and older aircraft such as the F-15,
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where we develop tactics and modify tactics on a periodic basis.
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Would that include the Aurora?
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Once these aircraft, such as the F-22 and the F-15, come into the inventory,
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we have a responsibility to train these air crews.
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So we use the range as a training ground for F-15, F-16, and F-22 someday pilots
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to be able to develop their tactics and train for large-scale military operations
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to defend the interests of the United States and its citizens abroad.
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But in answer to my question, which you did not answer,
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have you now, or ever had knowledge, or been engaged in testing of anti-gravitational flying disks
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within the Nellis Air Force range?
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We're taking a look at your own.
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That certainly does implode in my scope of responsibility.
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So are you saying that you have not?
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I have no personal knowledge of anything like that.
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Have you been at the Groom Lake facility?
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Again, when it comes to Groom Lake, we can officially acknowledge its existence,
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but beyond that, the information regarding it is classified.
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But have you? That wouldn't be classified if I simply asked Commander Bill Pressable
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if you have been at the Groom Lake range.
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Again, the Air Force has strictly limited the scope of its comments on the facility near Groom Lake
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to only its existence.
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And any other information is classified.
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It's been reviewed by the Secretary of the Air Force
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and determined that that classification is correct.
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Then am I correct in saying that it is classified?
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You cannot tell me whether you have been on the range or not.
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Sir, I can't tell you any more than I've already told you.
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I've thought so. Thank you.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Just seeing what they're doing shows me the technology they have.
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They know we are there. They know we're there.
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So consequently, when they got in the car, I flipped the lights on and put my foot to the floor.
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Just took off toward the highway, speeding.
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And when I took off, Paul and Ivy began yelling at each other, screaming at each other, uncontrollably at each other.
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All I know is I'm driving. I'm frightened to get out of here.
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I don't know what this is, and I don't want to know what this is.
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And Paul and Ivy start yelling at each other.
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I'll only remember is we stopped the car quickly for one moment.
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I was not thinking. I was frightened. I wasn't thinking.
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I stopped the car for a moment to see what are you screaming about.
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And I look out and I see them right over our heads, moving around, doing something.
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I thought, oh, my God, now I'm sure getting out of here.
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I jumped back in the car and I stomped it.
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I mean, right to put the pedal to the metal and headed toward the highway.
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And these things were following us.
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And Paul and Ivy were leaning out the window, watching the show, while I am absolutely delirious and fear,
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because I didn't want anything to happen to them or me.
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Now, Paul, what were you seeing and how big were these crafts?
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What would be distinguishable about them that we might recognize
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another anti-gravitational flying disc that had been reported around the world?
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Well, that's the reason why that Ivy and I were shouting at each other was because we had rolled down our windows.
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She was in the passenger side. I was right behind her.
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And we had our heads out the window looking up at these things.
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And it was a combination of things whereby they had movements which were very graceful type movements
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that are very slow floating, but also incredibly fast and stopping.
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They kind of combined that.
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But in looking out the window while he was driving, what we saw that caused us to shout so much was these things floating,
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seven of them floating altogether, where it seemed like they just all touched each other,
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and then they burst out and formed a perfect circle instantaneously.
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And it was the most incredible thing that I'd ever seen in my life.
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And we demanded that he stop the car at that point, because we said, they're basically showing off.
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Let's stop and watch the show.
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So we did get him to stop the vehicle.
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We got out.
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And what we saw next scared him even more, because they did another kind of a star configuration thing, too.
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You have to appreciate this is right over our heads.
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This is not little lights in the sky.
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This is seven bluish-white glowing disk-shaped things.
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No sound exhibiting technology, which was astounding.
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No sound.
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Being able to move around, do all kinds of configurations.
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Jordan, listen, wait a minute.
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People come out here to see just this.
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And if one would come out to see that, they could be guaranteed that they could see it.
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They would spend tens of thousands, maybe even millions of dollars for such a show.
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And you were there, and you turn around and want to get the hell out.
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That's it.
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And as I said at the beginning, this is one of the things that I will always regret in my life that I did under pressure.
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And at a very important moment, I did chicken out.
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And I admit it.
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You panicked.
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I panicked. Totally. Legitimately.
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I was totally frightened.
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Because my thought was they were seeing it as a beautiful, awesome display of technology and beauty.
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I was thinking, I don't know who this represents.
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I have no idea what their intentions are toward us.
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All I know is my gut feeling told me this is not human.
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This kind of technology and this beauty with no sound, this is something I have never seen.
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And I've seen a lot of things in my life.
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Never have I seen anything like this.
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It was legitimately frightening to me.
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And it would be still today.
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I mean, if you had seen what we had seen, I would be interested to see what your normal and natural human reactions would be.
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We saw the most incredible phenomenon that I've ever seen in my life.
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Looking up in that portion of the sky that she was looking at, I observed 16, 18, possibly 24, what I would consider intelligently controlled and directed craft, if you will, taking the sky.
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It was similar to watching the Super Bowl.
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When both teams take the field, I had never seen any phenomena like this in my life.
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And they were, as we turned, as we saw, as we heard this sound going across the valley, my companions and I just looked up in the sky and these objects had just taken formation in the sky.
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Did they describe the objects, the color?
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Well, they change colors.
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But my first impression of these objects were silver, very shiny points of light.
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The young lady was with you as an artist and you've got a photograph here.
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Well, not a photograph, a drawing.
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A drawing.
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There were so many of these.
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This is the mountains here and these are the dozens of small crafts.
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What are these balls of light going down?
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Well, first, and this phenomena went on for about 15 to 20 minutes, I would guess.
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These smaller points of light that were turning from silver at times to a reddish hue to a green color, to amber colors and aqua colors, they do change color.
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These smaller points of light here are craft.
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And again, I say there were 16, 18, possibly 24.
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There were so many of these that we just couldn't count them.
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Now, it appeared that they were maneuvering.
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They were on some type of maneuvers.
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They would go from one part of the sky we were watching completely across the valley to the other side of the valley in literally a second or two seconds.
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They would form into groups of threes or fours.
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This would be impossible with any conventional aircraft.
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If they would fly that distance, would they stop on a dime?
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They would stop.
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The incredible distances that these craft, if you will, were traveling in a matter of seconds, I'm not familiar with any type of technology.
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Well, these are flying objects.
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These are definitely intelligently controlled.
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Unidentified flying objects.
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Flying objects, yes.
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Or UFOs.
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UFOs.
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I was experiencing a visual sighting of possibly two dozen UFOs traveling across the night sky.
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Whitley Strieber wrote a story called Communion.
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It's gone into a film where he talks about an alien abduction where they implanted him.
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I noticed in your book that he was a candidate for a surgical removal of the implant in his body.
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What occurred?
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Whitley Strieber was going to be the fourth patient in the second series of surgery, which was done in May of 1996.
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He had been traveling.
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He was out of the country.
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He came back.
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When he arrived back here, he began to vacillate as to whether he wanted the surgery done or whether he didn't want it done.
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At the last minute, he had concerns about his own safety and his life if it were removed from his body.
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So at the last minute, he changed his mind.
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Curiously enough, I was not the first one to release the information.
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The National Institute of Discovery Science was the first one to release the information, which was a surprise to me.
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Then I got a phone call on the same day that said, okay, now if you want to talk about this publicly, you can't.
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I had such pressure on me to tell what we had found that it was a relief for me to be able to release this information.
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Now I must qualify what I just said, too.
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They released this information in scientific circles, which I had absolutely no way to even achieve.
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Now, Dr. Roger Lerr is the first individual in the world to have performed a surgery to remove a suspected alien implant.
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Is this correct?
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No.
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I did some research before I ever started on this track.
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I started really as a challenge to prove that these were just everyday mundane objects.
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They had no import whatsoever.
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However, in researching these cases, there was only one that I came about, which was examined at MIT by Dr. Pritchard.
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This was a surgically removed object.
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He didn't go forward with the in-depth examination that he should have, and until this day, he makes statements that he regrets it.
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Roger, when these alien objects were viewed under a black light, they emitted some sort of greenish glow, did they not?
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That's correct. All of the nine objects fluoresced when placed under an ultraviolet black light.
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After the reports came back from the metallurgy lab, and they told you that this was not from this world,
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wouldn't that draw the conclusion of any logical, rational human being to believe that this is not of this world?
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You would certainly think so.
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When Robert Bigelow and the scientists with the National Institute for Discovery Science approached you,
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was it because they too felt that we were being investigated by alien beings?
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I think the reason they became involved was the purpose for the National Institute for Discovery Science is twofold purpose.
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One is science of the mind, and the other is the study of unidentified flying objects.
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Here was something that presented physical evidence that might be related to both.
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Then in the middle comes the pilots of those objects, the beings that fly them.
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If we found something of physical evidence that would prove that at least we were being visited by somebody from somewhere else,
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I think that's what spurred them on for their interest.
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Paul, you analyzed it later on in your own head, and it's been several years now.
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What do you think that you saw? Where do you think these craft came from? If not Area 51, if not at the test site at S-4,
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nine miles south of the Groom Lake facility, Papoose Lake.
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I think that all we can really do is guess because there's so much that we don't know,
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and they're very good at keeping those things from us. Probably even better at it than we know.
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Any scientist looking at that technology would certainly have to say that it's something that we have no known way of doing.
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In seeing it, I can see why that kind of blue Jordan circuits and we needed to move.
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I believe those Nazi scientists that came here through Operation Paperclip brought with them the technology, the Nazi technology,
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that is being used out at Area 51 right now.
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That's what I was really inferring, that we perfected it, or in combination we figured the answers and now have the equivalent
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of what the world thinks of something from outer space.
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And the reason? To frighten the hell out of us.
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Could be. I can think of a number of reasons.
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It's a panic project. So we would be, like Henry Kissinger said, willing to surrender our rights to a world government.
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That's the bottom line.
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Unfortunately, because of the overall plan, it would bring nations together because now you've got a common enemy
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and everybody's going to be panic stricken, which you just said.
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But the common enemy is not the aliens from outer space.
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The common enemy is the New World Order.
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The Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer Kraut, who want to abolish all sovereignty for all people for all time.
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Now, if there were individuals who would like to see a world government upon the ashes of all national sovereignty,
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and they had this alien technology, and it was developed out here, and it was tested out here,
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would they, in your opinion, have developed this to such a science that they could scare or frighten the public of the world?
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To surrendering their sovereignty, surrendering their freedom?
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If there was a government which promised them safety from this evil?
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Well, if Jordan was a test case and they scared the crap out of him, yeah, sure, why not?
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My opinion is different than probably Paul's and many others who have expressed this opinion,
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that perhaps this might be human technology on a very high level, which is going to be used to frighten the world into.
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Well, I can guarantee it's going to frighten the world. I'll guarantee you that.
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Now, what's going to come out of that is going to be a lot of chaos,
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because a lot of people are going to be frightened to death when they see this kind of thing.
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However, my particular view and my personal view as to this possible takeover of the world by some world government using UFOs as a ploy,
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I tend to differ with that.
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I look at the same facts, and my feeling is there very well might, might in point of fact be aliens here who are getting ready to take over,
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and that maybe the government really doesn't have much to say about it. Maybe...
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Wait a minute, Jordan.
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This Nellis Air Force land, this section out here, is probably about the size of England.
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In fact, the state of Nevada is five and a half times the size of England.
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Wouldn't you consider it more than a coincidence that all of these sightings are so close to and closely related to the Groom Lake facility called Area 51,
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as for the Papoose Lake facility.
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Do you think it's more than just an accident that they're here rather than in some other section of the world?
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I am not convinced. I am convinced that something is here, and it is on a very high level of technology that we are not used to seeing.
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Now, whether that's human or alien from somewhere else, I'm not sure.
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My gut feeling, my opinion is that this represents alien technology which is not human.
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I do not believe that this was human technology that I and Paul and Ivy witnessed.
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My gut feeling is this was in point of fact alien technology.
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Now, the mere fact that it would happen here at Area 51 in my eyes would tie that to the possibility that there are people or governmental agencies who are knowledgeable about this alien technology, but it's not theirs.
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It's come from somewhere else, and perhaps government has no alternative but to sue for peace and to make some sort of an arrangement with these alien life forms.
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I personally believe that we have alien life forms on this earth who are not indigenous to this planet, who have come here, and I personally, it's just my view, that what I saw out there was seven of them.
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Is that what the secrecy is all about? Is that why we see road sensors, why we see sound detectors, motion detectors, why they have 24-hour, 360-degree vigilance by sight that protects, you know, to protect whatever is hidden over there from us?
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That's what I'm saying. I would suggest that it is very plausible, it's a very plausible concept, that the government of the United States or whoever this world government we've been talking about, I am saying it's very possible that they are not the culprits, but in point of fact there are alien life forms here who are doing business with our government, and our government, so to speak, really has no alternative.
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When you are confronted with an overwhelming, powerful government that comes against you, it only makes good political sense to sue for peace, make a deal, and maybe that's sort of what Henry Kissinger was talking about, but he said whether real or promulgated, so this could be craft that was piloted by American pilots or German pilots or whatever.
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I am Colonel Pat Sweeney, and I'll be the presiding officer or the hearing officer at the public hearing this evening.
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Mr. Anthony Zoller?
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Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God when answering questions asked by the people at this hearing under the threat of perjury or imprisonment, that simply a yes or no and a hand or a nod would be in order?
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Mr. Hiller, perhaps you misunderstood the purpose of the public comment period. This is your opportunity to make comments that would be considered by Air Force and BLM officials when determining what actions to take on the draft LEIM.
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I'm going to then ask some questions which I feel need to be answered. Do you now have or have you ever tested bacteriological, biological, or chemical warfare weaponry on the Nellis test site, either on the surface or below the ground in one of your underground laboratories?
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That's question one. And what would be the environmental impact upon the land and upon the people of this state and upon the country were you to have tested bacteriological, biological, or chemical warfare weaponry at this site?
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Third, there's a growing number of individuals, as you know, that have been contaminated while working on or near Area 51 secret underground facilities. These individuals have come to you asking help. They have received none.
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This has recently gone up before the Supreme Court. They have denied a hearing. What are you now or what will you do with regards to these individuals who are dying or dead and who are begging for help?
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Can you tell us why you have not addressed this issue and taking care of your wounded?
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As you know, the President of the United States is now in the process of impeachment for crimes possibly against this country, possibly high treason. And you're under the authority of the President to do exactly what he says when he says.
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If he tells you to jump, you ask, how high? As you know, the President was elected with the direct aid of the Chinese Communist Military Complex and has given this nation, the Chinese Communist nation, aid and trade and technology,
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which now allows them to take out the city of Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Dallas, Chicago, New York, and Atlanta with simply the pressing of a button.
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As we understand it, there is no Star Wars defense. There is no missile defense. Are you to continue to follow the orders of this President when you know that they have received their nuclear capacity from him?
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And what would be the environmental impact? I ask you all, what would be the environmental impact if 53 or 4 atomic bombs were to hit our cities?
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What would be the environmental impact?
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Has that been erased? And if not, why not? And has the Air Force ever lied to us, the public, about the existence of man-made anti-gravitational flying craft that have been tested within the Nellis Air Force test site?
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You smile, Commander.
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Has the Air Force, the CIA, or any agency of this government ever performed medical experiments upon human beings at or under the facilities of Area 51, as for any laboratory located within the confines of the Nellis test site?
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And are you not now under the command of the United Nations? And are you not not now under the directions of State Department Bulletin 7277, which calls for the complete and total disarmament of the United States?
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And I am asking the question here. Is this internment camp, which I have pictures of here, which was just built, this is within the past 30 days, on Range Road, to be used to incarcerate citizens of the United States, were we to be under martial law?
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And how does the impact of that rest upon the people of the state of Nevada? These are the pictures.
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Now what happened when you came back? With you?
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You can imagine us driving back on the highway. I'm shaking and there's emotions galore pouring through Paul and Ivy and myself. We came back and we decided to stay overnight right here in that mobile home right back there.
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And there were two bedrooms in the mobile home. One had one bed, one had two. I was not about to sleep by myself. So I convinced Paul to sleep in the one bedroom by himself and Ivy and I would take the other bedroom with their two beds.
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And so from and then we talked about it for about an hour. What did we see tonight? And the question the three of us discussed was, was it them or us? Was that human or alien? What we just experienced tonight?
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The three of us at that time were convinced that we had seen alien technology. It was so spectacular, so awesome in its display.
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Later on the next morning I got up and came over to the little alien to have breakfast and there was Paul and Ivy who had awakened before I did and went to have breakfast. There was a group of people that they were talking to.
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When I came in I assumed that they were talking about our experience that we had had the night before. They were not. Paul and Ivy were talking about what happened to them at the end the end the mobile home.
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Now tonight, JC is sleeping in 5-2 and I'm sleeping in 5-1.
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That's unfortunate for you.
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That's very unfortunate for you because that's exactly the mobile home that we had the visitation in. The visit happened in that mobile home. So if you're in that one, good luck.
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You said we had the visitation. I don't think you had the visitation. You were asleep.
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That's exactly right. Happily I was asleep. I think that the alien life forms, if that's what they were, and I'm convinced they were, I think that they're smart enough to know not to wake me because I've already had enough of a jolt tonight I couldn't take anymore.
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Paul, your experience was entirely different. You came into the room that I'm sleeping in. What happened?
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First off, I want to say that it's a rather intriguing bit of synchronicity that the room that I had this experience in is room 5-1. Here we are at Area 51.
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We had gotten out to the road and after we had gotten onto the main road the craft disappeared into the clouds. We came back, we talked, decided which rooms to sleep in.
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We went to bed and everything and I was awakened later on that night. What happens after that? I refused to talk about this for two years after it happened.
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You'll probably understand why after I tell you. I talked about it the next day but after that it was a good two years. I even did a show with you and left that part out.
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What had happened? I awoke probably a little bit after three in the morning and there's a bathroom, a small bathroom that separates the two rooms. I heard some shuffling around in that area.
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I had just assumed that either Jordan or Ivy had gotten up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. I didn't think too much of that at the moment.
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Although confirming in the morning that neither one of them had in fact gotten up in the night. That's what woke me.
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Then out of the corner of my eye I look over and I see three balls of light in the room. One was a little bit bigger than the other two and they moved independently of each other a little bit.
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That certainly got my attention. I looked at these balls of light and immediately after seeing them I felt a very strange sensation of the room starting to move.
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Starting to spin a little bit. I looked behind me out there's a window in the middle of the room. I looked behind me out in the back to see if this is really strange. Is the room really moving?
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There was a light or something out in the back which didn't move which confirmed that no the room is not really moving. I turned back. The balls of light were gone.
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The room took on a spinning kind of motion which went very fast. It sort of reminded me of that house in the Wizard of Oz or something when the house is just spinning like that.
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Yet I wasn't dizzy but there's a sensation of the room spinning around. As it was spinning I suddenly developed an intense and very incredible clarity of mind.
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I don't really know how else to describe it except that it was another level of consciousness which suddenly permeated me to the degree that I was immensely clear about everything.
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Did you say this isn't Kansas anymore Toto?
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It certainly wasn't I'll tell you. It only lasted for about 30 seconds or so but it got to be a very strange spinning sensation. When it stopped I was just hit with this conscious awareness.
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It's just beyond words. It's very clear. I sit back in bed and it all stops and I'm thinking wow this is incredible. I've got this real clarity there.
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I'm looking up at the ceiling and there's a regular light on the ceiling like a square light that has the light bulbs behind it.
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I'm looking up at this thing and suddenly it's just not like a regular gray light anymore. I'm looking up into the face of one of these standard normal gray alien type creatures.
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Just the face. So I lean forward in the bed and it moves away from me. I notice that the light is not there anymore on the ceiling. I lean back in bed and it goes back to where it was.
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So I'm looking up at this thing and once again I wasn't afraid for some reason. I started asking questions. I wanted to know all kinds of things. I wanted to ask various questions about who they were and why they were here.
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It had no interest whatsoever in communicating with me at all. It kind of reminded me of when we take an animal in somewhere and we're tagging a captured animal. We're not going to bark like a dog to try to communicate with it.
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It had no interest in communicating with me. So with this clarity of mind, it looks down. I'm looking up into its eyes and what I experienced was everything that I had ever done and felt and experienced in my life went flash before my eyes like taking the entire Encyclopedia Britannica and flipping through the pages a million miles an hour and being totally and completely cognizant of every single thing.
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And then it left. It was like a linking of minds or something. I would have thought that maybe it was a dream but it was so incredible. That clarity of mind was so strong.
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Then what happened in the morning? You woke up, did you feel like you had passed through a dream?
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No, it was still very much with me. I would have liked to have thought that maybe. But there was actually excitement in the morning. I went over here to grab some breakfast. Ivy was over here already. I decided I wasn't going to say anything to her right away.
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I just said, hey Ivy, how'd you sleep last night? And she said, Paul, you're not going to believe this. She said, I woke up in the middle of the night and there were these balls of light in my room and I couldn't move. I was paralyzed. And she said, you won't believe this, I woke up in the morning and there was blood coming out of my left ear onto the pillow.
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The surgical procedures that have been performed for the nine surgeries have shown us that these are all so far on the left side of the body.
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The left side?
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That's correct. We don't know the reason for this, whether this just happens to be a statistical coincidence or whether they're supposed to be that way. But in the future when more of these procedures are done, we will be able to answer that question.
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And I said, well Ivy, you're not going to believe this. I experienced pretty much something at least equal to what you did. So we shared our stories and we couldn't wait for Jordan to get up to find out what maybe had happened with him. But he slept like a baby.
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I think that it's because they realized that I was legitimately frightened and that there was no use in waking me up to truly finish it off. They would have finished me off. If I'd have seen something in my bedroom that I can't handle, I would have had a heart attack and that's it. Then I'm no good to anyone. So they figured, just leave him sleep.
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Was anything wrong with your ear?
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No, not at all. But what I think was the result of that though, I talked about it with people the next day. And then after that, I refused to talk about it for a couple of years because suddenly there was a sense that hit me of understanding what it's like to have your house burglarized or a woman to be raped, to have something taken from you without your permission.
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And a trauma set in at that point and it's not something you brag about. So I kept quiet for a couple of years until finally there was a meeting at Mufon Ventura in 96. And I felt a need to get it off my chest and I spoke about it and I felt more comfortable talking about it since then.
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And now before the BBC, you've allowed it to come out on the air so to speak to the world?
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Yeah, because after I started talking about it, certain renditions of the story started to circulate around and some of it wasn't quite accurate. And I feel that maybe something can come of it for other people. And I'm more interested in other things. I have a different focus on spiritual matters and things.
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Can we just get up here?
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Well, I want to find out from Paul whether you're willing to go back into bungalow 51, trailer 51 where we're camped out this evening and lay back in the bed and sort of before the cameras show us exactly what happened.
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Well, I haven't been in there since. It's been six years. I'll walk in there and see how I feel.
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Paul, how do you feel going over here right now?
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Butterflies.
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Yeah, it's a queasiness kind of a thing.
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We're about to go into the trailer, the section of the trailer, 51, 51 so to speak, where you saw this entity, like a little gray. So let's go.
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Yeah, it was just the face, but based on what happened, I guess you could consider it to be the entire entity.
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Yeah, yeah, it sure looks familiar.
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So it looks real familiar. You were in what bed? At the time, there was only one bed in the room and it was this one right here.
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So I was looking, you know, then here's the window I looked back out of to make sure that the, you know, that the room was still stable and the balls of light that appeared were in this area right here.
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I heard some shuffling around at night, which originally woke me. And then here's the light right here up above where it just kind of transformed into a strange face.
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And when I, when I, you know, rose up in bed, it moved this way. And then I noticed the light wasn't there anymore.
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Of course, you'd have to think with with logic and think that it surely was there. But, you know, I didn't see it. And it was, I don't know.
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It's one of the it's got to be the strangest thing that I ever. Excuse me. I'm running out of my breath here that I ever experienced in my life.
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I mean, gosh, I didn't think I'd need a couple of deep breaths.
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Got a little goose bumps going, but I think I'd like to leave now.
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But yeah, it looks the same.
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We're nearing the sixth hour, the sixth day of the six months.
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The dawning of a new day that we pray will not be a millennium under a Luciferian society.
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Doing this rally, this is the third in three years.
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The significant in the fact that we have challenged the New World Order.
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The handful of people we've come up against the Goliath, so to speak.
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And come to the conclusion that we must speak up and speak out.
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From Las Vegas, Nevada, USA. Hello, everyone. This is Lou Epton.
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And at the first hour of today's program, two outstanding investigative reporters who between them have almost 40 years digging into the behind the scenes activities of the government.
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Rachel, Nevada. How many of you are familiar with Rachel, Nevada? You may know it better as the home of Area 51.
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That's the title, I think most everyone can relate to. That's the place the world has come to know.
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It's also the place the military research base that the bureaucrats say doesn't exist.
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The skull and bones flag that was flying at our fourth annual people's rally was hoisted high at the invisible border.
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This was to draw attention to the fact that President George W. Bush, the official overseer of Alien 51, his father, George Herbert Walker Bush, and his father before him, Senator Prescott Bush, were all initiated into the Illuminati skull and bones.
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For the past four years, Norio and I have held the people's rally on the sixth minute of the sixth hour of the sixth month or 666.
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This is to draw attention to the Illuminati's New World Order.
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The government doesn't admit that there is a facility, Area 51 right here. They only say that there is an operating base near Groom Lake. So that doesn't mean anything.
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It's now becoming known throughout the country that the Bush family, through their partnership with Brown Brothers-Hairman and the Union Bank, helped add off Hitler and his rise to power in Nazi Germany.
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The patriotic participants who came to protest the New World Order, and here individuals like Norio Hayakawa, Victor Camacho, Ted Gunderson, and myself, like millions of individuals throughout the Americas, are deeply concerned about medical experiments that are taking place on human beings at Area 51.
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We're concerned about the development of biological, chemical, bacteriological warfare weaponry that's being developed and tested in Frankenstein factories under the Groom Lake and S-4 military installations at Area 51.
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It's our contention that far more than the development and testing of anti-gravitational flying disk is taking place over, in, and under the three million plus Acronellus test range.
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We have been hearing for many, many years that Area 51 could be the location of the so-called Frankenstein factories.
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I mean, this is not imagination. It's very possible that they could be creating some type of genetically manipulated alien entity that looks like a real alien entity.
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We have the technology right now to create and to produce what appears to be alien entity as some kind of a deceptive scenario in the future.
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And this is why I'm saying that cloning and biological programs could be going on, possibly using some humans that could have been brought unwillingly to this location.
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To the side of us, security cameras kept close vigilance on our every move.
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From Bald Mountain, which overlooks the top secret base and everything that goes on in the Takeaboo Valley, for 30 miles in every direction, they viewed us.
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They monitored us. They know full well of our concern for the missing children reportedly brought there for medical experiments.
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Cloning and the possible creation of alien creatures born from genetic engineering.
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I really believe that there is some type of experimentation going on in North of here around the Tonopah test range before I got to Highway 375.
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I saw something that I couldn't believe my eyes. This was about 1.30 in the morning. I was driving a 210 Datsun hatchback at the time.
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And my first thoughts was that this was a cow just running down the road coming from the opposite direction that I was driving.
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I slowed down my Datsun because I didn't want my headlights to spook it and have it run in front of my Datsun and then end up having an accident.
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But as this thing got closer and started to trot by my Datsun, I could see that it was neither a steer, a cow, it was not a horse.
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I had no idea what this thing was. The best way I could describe it is it looked like a cross between a horse and maybe a cow.
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It had a longish neck like a horse, but it didn't have a horse's mane.
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The face looked like a llama and it had the type of parted lips that you would normally see on a llama.
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And then it had what looked to be a tuft of hair around its head and face that looked like a lion's mane.
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And this thing, the most striking thing about this was that this creature was darn near as long as the length of my Datsun 210 hatchback.
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And the tail was sticking straight up in the air, it had a tuft of hair at the end of the tail, and it looked very much like a lion's tail.
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And this thing trotted on by and I couldn't believe my eyes and I tried to dig out a camera, put a lens on.
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I got my mag flashlight, got out of my car and I started to run down the road after this to try and get a picture of it.
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And then I thought, well, what am I doing? I just saw something as big as my car, didn't look like anything that I'd ever seen in my life.
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And here I am with just a camera and my mag flashlight, 1.30 in the morning in the dark running after something that I wouldn't know if it would turn around and attack me.
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So I collected myself and I got back in my car and then I turned my car around to try and drive down the road to see if I could find it,
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thinking that it would be safer to take a picture from inside the car, but it had run off into the desert so I didn't see it again.
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And I continued on down until I got to the little alien and got a room at one of the trailers in back here.
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But I thought about what you had said during the lectures in June of 98 and talking about the DNA type experimentation in the Frankenstein factories.
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And I have to say that what I saw that night fit that type of description.
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It looked like it could have been something that was genetically manufactured.
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So I truly believe that that is going on and this may have been something that escaped from the base.
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The military's high ranking officers who oversee the activities at Area 51 knew our demonstration was peaceful.
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Yet they plotted to intimidate us on public land.
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In early years we were harassed by military helicopters actually on public land.
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In one case a dark military helicopter flew just about 12 feet above our cars as we were trying to get away from the dirt road towards the Highway 375.
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And I still clearly remember this tremendous harassment that we received in the early 90s.
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It really reminds me of one movie called North by Northwest with Cary Grant.
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I mean how he was harassed by this airplane on a cornfield.
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It was just, I mean the experience was very similar to what he must have felt.
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I could definitely have been killed.
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I mean I was leading a group of about seven cars.
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We could have been killed by this approaching helicopter that defied all federal aviation regulations.
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It wasn't long after the bus carrying Victor Camacho and his crew left the little alien down Highway 375 towards the Blue Fire Campout at the border of Area 51.
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That they were hit with a magnetic pulse generator.
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Or some weaponry developed behind the base which will knock out their headlights as it did mine nine years before.
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Victor explains it this way.
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We were driving through the 375 Highway when something hit the bus.
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The lights just went off.
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In that case we have two cars behind the bus.
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Thanks to those cars we can see the road.
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If we were alone, you know, there is no light in the road.
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There is a lot of cows over there and maybe we can hear those animals.
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Thanks to those cars, I mean the lights from those cars, nothing happened.
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But if we were alone maybe we could be killed, you know, all the group.
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I heard something about what they're doing with the electric poles or something like that.
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I believe something happened.
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I mean they did something to the bus.
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If they did like that, maybe they tried to make us think again to come back.
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I believe they tried to harass all the group or tried to scare the group to not go again to the border.
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The military underlings in charge of security for the base came over in the dark of the night.
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They crossed the line of the law after Victor Camacho and the crew arrived at the Blue Fire campsite.
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They drove on public land to create the fear factor.
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As these liberty-loving Latinos walked down the road in the still of the night, they were harassed still once again.
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When we get to the place where we put the camp close to the Area 51 border, we used to walk during the night.
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We are awake all night long, so we walk a little bit behind the bus to the other way to the sign, not to the signs to the other way.
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So we were walking almost all the group.
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When suddenly we saw one of the trucks that they are keeping the eye over us all night long over the hill,
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they just turned on the lights from the truck and just came all over the way over us, I mean close to the group, pretty fast.
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We can hear the noise from the engine that came down to the group pretty fast.
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When he approached the group, he just stopped that truck, came over from the inside to the Area 51 to the public land where we were walking.
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Then he just pushed the gas again, got to the front of the group, turned around the truck, and came again over the group,
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looking again to the group, and just pushed the gas again and got into the Area 51.
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It happened four or five times during the night.
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The same truck, because it was in the same hill, he tried to scare the group, he tried to harass the group. I don't know why.
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Hidden in the hills a few hundred yards behind the invisible border, Area 51's SS security forces paid close attention to the voice of Ted Gunderson,
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former FBI agent in charge of all operations in the LA area.
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Ted Gunderson, former head of the FBI in Los Angeles, Dallas, and Memphis.
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Ted has been with the Bureau of Federal Investigation for 27 and one-half years, an outstanding record.
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Ted has evidence, solid evidence, that people have been used for medical experiments.
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Not only that, but the CIA's involved in and has been involved for years in an extensive drug operation.
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The CIA is the biggest drug dealer in the world.
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Then we have the most recent incident.
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We have the Oklahoma City bombing, and we have the FBI withholding over 3,000 documents from the defense for a period of five, six years.
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The FBI learned about this, they say, as far back as December and January, yet did not notify the President of the United States
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and did not notify the Attorney General of the United States of this situation until the 1st of May.
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What kind of an excuse can they possibly use under those circumstances?
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Is there a cover-up? Is there a conspiracy?
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Well, I personally think that there is.
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Let's go back very briefly and look at what's happened over the last 10, 12, 15 years.
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The anti-terrorism legislation was written back in the George Bush administration,
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and there was a female Department of Justice author who said, before this passes, people have to be killed.
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Fast forward to 1993, the World Trade Center.
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The FBI had an informant, a fellow named Salam, a 43-year-old former Egyptian officer who was in with the terrorists.
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He was given the assignment to put the bomb together.
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He went to his FBI handler and told him, we'll put a dummy bomb together.
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His FBI handler said, no, we'll use the real bomb.
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George Bush and his father and his father before him were involved in the support of Adolf Hitler
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through Brown Brothers Harriman and through the Union Bank.
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We just had a story picked up from our website, preworldalliance.com, and it wound up in one of the tabloids.
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It's a fact. It's not fiction.
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The drug dealing of the Central Intelligence Agency is well known throughout the world.
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From the likes of General Kun Sa to Richard Armitage, who's an advisor to President Bush,
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we found out that the major trafficker in narcotics from Southeast Asia is the Central Intelligence Agency.
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Victor, I'm so happy and proud of all of the guys and all of you for coming here tonight, last night, and of course this morning.
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So, Victor, en español, por favor.
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We are proud to be here. This is the fourth year that we are here.
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We support the work that Norio, Anthony, and Ted and everyone that is in charge of this is doing.
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We're going to thank you for everything, and hopefully we're going to see you next year.
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I pray that Victor Camacho gets back on the air one more time.
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There's a friendly guy. He'd run over if you were just standing there.
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That's your taxpayer dollars at work hiring that bastard.
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I guess he's going on his way to hell. Hell's on the other side of the hill, by the way.
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We can't see it from here, but we know it's there.
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When I was watching, he wasn't slowing down.
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He accelerated.
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He did slow down, and then he did get back on the old accelerator, through a crowd.
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Obviously he knows it's a demonstration, right?
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I don't know that.
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What else is it? How many people?
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That's an assumption we'd have to make. You're right.
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You can assume that if there's 50 people out here, the gate, and Discovery Television is doing an interview,
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and the former head of the FBI in Los Angeles, Dallas, and Memphis is standing in the middle of the road.
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We're all having a friendly rally to protest this New World Order thing that's coming down.
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This guy should have the decency to allow the people to get out of the way, rather than simply nail it.
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I agree.
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You agree?
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The former head of the FBI, Dallas, and Memphis, got to go out of the road in a hurry.
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The decision was made on the other side of Area 51's invisible border to run us down.
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For all this, this is Fox 5 News at 10.
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The Nevada test site's just about 100 miles north of Las Vegas.
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It's a highly classified location, long associated with alien activity, and it's not easy to get close to this place.
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And some who did found out how dangerous it can actually be.
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We have the exclusive access to the area, and we're going to be able to get there.
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We'll be right back.
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Janet Airlines, as my understanding, is a CIA operation.
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It's an airline that flies the CIA employees from Las Vegas out every morning and back
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around 2.30 in the afternoon to Area 51 for their experimentation in some of their other
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operations.
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Ted Gunderson and a small group of us gathered to draw attention to the fact that Janet flies
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thousands of workers in and out of Las Vegas daily to do the dirty work at Area 51 for
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the New World Order.
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What is at stake is more than one small country.
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It is a big idea, a New World Order.
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Adolf Hitler didn't want the German people to know what was going on at the death camps
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at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Nordhausen or Dachau.
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It was only after the war that the people discovered the truth.
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Criminal charges have been filed by Ted Gunderson and myself against the death driver who tried
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to run us down and his commanding officer at Alien 51.
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It's a fact that the Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving yearly approximately
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$65,000 from a special section of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit
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this place.
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They have contracted $65,000 per year and this is in the Lincoln County records.
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The Air Force through the Wacken Hut will call the Sheriff's Department to question
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the citizens who visit this location.
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I really find it very unusual that the Lincoln County Sheriff's number ends in 5151 and
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this is, I don't think it's a coincidence, they are using all kinds of symbology as
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part of their operation.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special
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section of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special section
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of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special
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section of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special
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section of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special section
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of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special section
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of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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The Lincoln County Sheriff's Department has been receiving $65,000 from a special
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section of the Air Force just to harass the citizens that visit this location.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.