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The Apollo Moon landings.

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The lunar photographs, possible anomalies, inconsistencies, and unexplained details.

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And I pressed the wrong button.

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OK, it's not going to happen again.

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But it's a very good device this, if you press the right button.

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So when Anthony said, come and talk to us about the moon landings,

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I thought, OK, the unexplained anomalies, the inconsistencies,

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is based on a talk I was asked to give at the British and Applanetary Society.

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I don't know if anybody here is a member of the British and Applanetary Society,

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which started in Liverpool in 1933, and is now based in London.

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It had some very famous people.

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As members, Arthur C. Clark was a leading light for many years.

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Patrick Moore was a leading light, and it's now in its 80th year, and they deal with space travel, as you would imagine.

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And they had heard about all these anomalies that we were talking about.

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And I was invited to give a presentation there, and they said, just stick to the pictures,

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because when they invited me, it generated a lot of, should we say, heat on certain websites,

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because how dare this venerable institution invite a hoax believer, that's what I am.

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I'm a hoax believer in their moon landings.

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I thought, OK, well, let's just put the evidence there, and just see what happens.

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So I did a similar presentation to the one I'm going to do here, and we'll see what the end result was.

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Obviously, I was a little bit nervous about being in front of all these knowledgeable people,

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who would understand if I was making a mistake, and we're saying things which weren't correct,

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but guess what? I didn't say things that weren't correct.

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I didn't make mistakes.

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All right, let's start with a camera. It's important to understand the camera.

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The House of Blood camera. Very, very good camera.

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The camera that would have been chosen and down there, that is the camera you can go into a shop today and buy.

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The digital version of the House of Blood camera costs about 25,000 pounds, so you can imagine how good it is,

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size being very expensive.

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That is the adapted camera that was used allegedly on the moon.

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And up here, this is what it looked like. Now, when I say adapted, it was altered slightly.

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More the slightly, actually. The only automatic feature on the camera was the batteries that wound the film forward.

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You press the button, the film automatically winds forward.

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Most people are familiar with that as a camera.

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You may not know, is it? How did it's viewfinder taken out?

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Because if you're wearing a space suit, you can't use the viewfinder on a House of Blood,

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the viewfinder is on the top of the camera there, and you can't use it.

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So they took it away. So you've got to use this camera with no viewfinder.

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The shutter is this button here, and guess what?

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From a space suit, you can't actually see the shutter.

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There it is. So they put a pistol grip on it, which you can't see in a space suit either.

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But NASA tells us, and if you go on to their website, you'll see there are 32,000 photographs taken on the moon.

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In the camera, there is a glass plate.

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The camera, this is where the magazine, which is detachable from the camera, fixes on.

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And there was a glass plate fitted into the camera with 25, what are called reticules.

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There's a crosshairs. It was very technical about why they had to put it in, but in fact what it does is identify every photograph

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that was taken allegedly on the lunar surface.

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I've done several TV programs about this subject, and one of them, the film company, came along with a replica camera,

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which they borrowed from House of Blood in London.

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So you can see it's very similar, I've photographed this about 10 years ago.

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Notice here the batteries. These are the batteries that you operate the motor to wind the film forward.

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There are ordinary batteries you can go and try to shot and buy them today. They're D2, Vata batteries.

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And we're come on to the effect of the lunar surface on batteries later.

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This is the only visual image here on the side of the camera. There it is there. It's in large version there,

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which tells you if you've actually taken a picture. Because guess what, in space, no one can hear you scream.

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And also, no one can hear the camera go click. Because there's no mirror to do that. That's what you hear, mirror going up.

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So there's no sound. You have no means of knowing if a photograph has been taken.

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And guess what, you can't see that dial. Okay. Let's get to the moon.

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On the way to the moon, we have this iconic, there's a lot of iconic photographs here.

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I can't because nobody's ever taken them again. This is the moon. We're told. And this is the earth. We're told.

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Peel blue dot.

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What's wrong with that picture?

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Okay. Bit of mathematics needed here. You're orbiting the moon. And if you do, you'll be about six

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to miles above the surface. Otherwise you're crashing to the moon. Or you fly off into space.

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You've got to be about six to miles up. Now if you're 60 miles above the lunar surface,

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how far away is the horizon? The answer is 250 miles. Bit of trigonometry.

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I'll give you that answer. So if you're 250 miles away, and we're told that the highest mountain

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on the moon is about three miles above the lunar surface, how can you see it? It's far too far away.

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It's like standing here in Harrogate and seeing the Eiffel Tower in Paris, 250 miles away.

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Well, maybe a bit more. 250 miles somewhere. I live. Get up here. But 250 miles away,

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you wouldn't see the horizon in that detail. Now when they were practicing to do the whole of

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Polar stuff, and by the way, there's a point about this. In 1958, America set up NASA, the National Air

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and Autical Space Administration, October 1958, in direct response to the launch of Sputnik, earlier that year, early in

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1957 by Russia, or the Soviet Union as it was then. NASA then instituted the Mercury program.

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That's one man in a capsule orbiting the Earth. They developed that into the Gemini program, two man capsule.

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They then went to Apollo, and then they moved on from there, to Skylab orbiting Earth, to the space shuttle,

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and to the International Space Station. All of those have something in common with one exception, and the exception is Apollo.

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Every other mission, Mercury, Gemini, Skylab, Shuttle, Space Station, are in lower th orbit.

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Apollo isn't. Apollo is the only major space program that's questioned because of where it went, allegedly.

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All right, let's carry on and see what they told us about it. This is Apollo 11. This is Buzz Aldrin, exiting the lunar lander, known as the Eagle, photographed by Neil Armstrong.

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And here he is, coming out backwards through his hatch. If you go to the Science Museum in London, you can see the Apollo 10 lunar lander.

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It's on display at in the Science Museum, along with a piece of moonrock. You know his moonrock, by the way, because it says on the label, moonrock.

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There's no question about that, is there?

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Somebody had the bright idea of measuring the size of this doorway. It's 32 inches square.

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Then he went along and measured a space suit, and found it was 32 inches deep. So he's got a bit of a tight squeeze coming out.

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But he obviously did it. This is the circular argument that's used quite often, because, well, we've got the photographs on the moon.

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Therefore, they must have got there. No, that doesn't add up.

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Anyway, out he comes, feet first. Can't see where he's going. He's going to walk down this ladder.

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Okay? So down he comes.

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And Neil Armstrong's obviously got bored stiff watching him come down, because he decides to photograph the rubbish bag underneath.

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He had to photograph various aspects of the Apollo craft, because they wanted to make sure that the rocket exhaust here hadn't been damaged when it landed, and everything was in order.

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Which is fair enough that's what you'd expect to happen.

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Don't forget, Buzz Aldrin is still trying to get down the ladder, and Neil Armstrong's not helping him.

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And then they photographed one of the pads to make sure it wasn't damaged.

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And on a little point here, there's obviously a lot of dust was blowing up by the exhaust as he came down onto the lunar surface.

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This rocket that lowered it onto the lunar surface is about the same power as a harry jump jet.

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And when that lands, it blows everything everywhere.

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But on the moon, there's no atmosphere, so he can't blow anything anywhere. Can it?

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No, well, it didn't blow anything anywhere, because there is no dust showing any of the landers, any of the landers pads here.

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Funny that. Oh well, back to Neil and Buzz, and here he comes down the ladder.

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Think about this picture for a minute.

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You're going allegedly to a place you've never been to before, in an atmosphere that doesn't exist,

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and you're going to bring a space suit, which is heavy and cumbersome.

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You can't see where your feet are.

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Would you really kick your left foot out like that when your right foot is not even on the ladder?

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I don't think so.

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You might do that when you've done it a hundred times during your training and simulation exercises,

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just to prove to the guys further graphing you that you can have a bit of a laugh as well.

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Anyway, down the ladder.

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Beautiful pictures aren't there, by the way. Absolutely wonderful.

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Well, that well-focused, well-frained.

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No viewfinder. I don't think I know you find it.

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But further down, yeah, he's about to get off the ladder, or is he about to get up the ladder it's hard to tell.

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Now, in the time I've been speaking, since we looked at the first photograph, is the time it took him to do it three minutes.

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So in three minutes, Neil Armstrong, who's operating the camera, could focus on different distances.

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Top of the ladder, bottom of the ladder underneath the spacecraft, he could set different exposures in shadow, in bright sunlight.

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You could do all this without cutting buzzes head off without getting the camera off centre.

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You could do all that in three minutes without doing a second shot of any of it.

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That is what does not make sense.

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Now, we'll look at those eight photographs in sequence there. Those are the pictures.

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If you go into the NASA website, those are the reference numbers for each of those eight photographs.

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They were taken in sequence in three minutes.

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In the other side, they were taken on cardiac acutocrine transparency material, which cannot be altered in the process.

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It's transparency material. Now, if you're used to digital cameras, this may all sound a bit old hat and old fashioned and very 20th century.

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But this is what they use, they use transparency material. Once you develop it, that's it. You can't change it.

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You can take print-sulfid, which is what they've done, and you can change those prints, but it will start to show up.

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Just to go back to the first photograph again, it's not often being identified that there was a flag on the moon or before they got out.

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Reflected in the triangular window of the lunar lander.

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I don't know if it's real or not, because they hadn't put the flag up at this point. They were both together to do the flag.

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Moving on then to Dear Buzz coming down the ladder.

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His foot is not on the wrong. There is a high-lat of light on the heel.

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His sticking is left foot out. The souls of his feet are very well illuminated. Where's that light coming from?

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I know some bright sparkles. It's reflecting off the lunar surface. Really? That's not the way light works.

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The lunar surface directly behind. Directed behind him is in shadow, as we'll see later.

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It's reflecting off Neil Armstrong. He's wearing a white space suit. Not big enough.

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A high-lat of light produced by a point source of light, an electronic flash. Simple.

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It's what they use during the training exercises. When they would then debrief everybody, it's what you do in a training exercise.

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You fill me, you further graph it, and then you all sit down and say, oh, you got that right. That was very good.

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You don't want to do that again, you fall over. That's debriefing. Nothing secret about any of that happening.

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Okay. Where did this light come from? Where did these highlights come from? You can see how much dark area there is.

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This is overexposed, yes, but not seriously overexposed.

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Cut a kilogram film, which I've actually used professionally. It's a very good film, but it has a very low tolerance for exposure latitude.

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You've got to get the exposure right or your inseris trouble. You've got to then photograph it again.

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A normal professional practice is what's called bracketing. You set what you think is the correct exposure with your exposure meter.

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We said you didn't have on the moon.

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And you take a photograph slightly over-exposed, a slightly under-exposed, and hope that you'll get it absolutely spot on.

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And then to be doubly sure, you take lots and lots and lots of pictures of the same subject to make sure you've got the composition right and the focus right.

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Because film is the cheapest thing you're going to have on the moon.

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But didn't do any of that. There was no bracketing. There was no additional photographs.

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It's as if they didn't care.

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Once more step, one footprint on the moon.

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Iconic photograph. How did they take it? How did they take that photograph on the moon?

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The camera was on chest mounted on the chest. A Hasselblad camera has the nearest you can focus it is about three feet.

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So, you take it off the chest, and you point it at your foot, and you take one photograph.

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No. That is not the way it works. It's beautifully exposed. It's right in the center.

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It's you're seeing exactly what you expect to see. That was taken here on Earth under controlled studio conditions.

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And if anybody can prove me wrong, I'd love to hear it. For 20 years, I have asked that question. Please prove me wrong.

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I'm still waiting.

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American flag. There it is. Top.

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Stuck in the ground. There are no moving flags. They weren't that stupid.

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The only time you'll see the flag waving or moving is when somebody is touching it. Put it into the ground.

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Now, we have a mystery in this photograph. I wonder who can spot it. It's the one legid astronaut.

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Where are the other footprints?

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It's going one way, but it's not going the other.

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It's going to be a mystery. Now, this photograph here shows both astronauts on the lunar surface at the same time.

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That's fine. We'll come to another photograph that has two astronauts on the lunar surface that isn't fine.

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This was taken from what's called the data acquisition camera mounted in the spacecraft that was filmed at one frame per second, the whole time they're on the lunar surface.

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What they're doing is putting the flag up. Okay. They put the flag up.

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But where's the light source? They're both astronauts of about the same height about six foot.

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Why is one of their shadows nearly 50% longer than the other?

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If the light source is the sun, which is a long-langer way away.

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Now, I'm not saying that there is a light source nearer than that. It's just that I don't know what the answer is.

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Anybody have not clues to what the answer might be. I'd be interested to hear it.

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Because the sun should cast the same length shadow on two people, but it doesn't.

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The angles are different. And also, the angles here is 25 degrees and 35 degrees.

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We're told that the time for Apollo 11 landing the sun was at about 13 degrees above the horizon.

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It's fair enough. It gives good shadow definition.

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But not in this picture. So there are these inconsistencies between the official story and what we see.

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Okay. Here we have Buzz Aldrin and the solar wind collector. It's just a strip of aluminium foil.

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And how come it's so beautifully illuminated on the back under as a shadow of the pole?

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Buzz Aldrin isn't standing close enough to do that.

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And what are all these things here? This is likely to be lens flare. That's the shape of a house of a large shutter.

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What's this? Why is this area here almost illuminated? Maybe it is illuminated.

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But there's no explanation for that.

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How far away would you say the horizon is on the moon?

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We're in a flat part of the moon. The sea of tranquility, which is where they allegedly landed.

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How far away is the horizon on the moon? The answer is about two miles, just slightly less than two miles.

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Do the trigonometry, it's a circular body. You're standing five foot above the surface, five six foot. How far can it?

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Just let look two miles away.

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And there's a quite a lot of fall off of light. We're not getting too much detail on the fall off of light.

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But we will look at this iconic photograph.

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The only one it was ever taken, beautifully framed.

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He'd almost got his head cut off and not quite.

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How far away is the horizon? Is it really two miles away?

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He's standing in a pool of light. What's what it appears to be?

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The shadow is what you expect it to be, but how come you can see every detail in his space suit, which is in shadow?

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On the moon, it's very bright light, or it's very dark. Shadows get very dark.

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You can see the top of his helmet.

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It's all filled in, a technical expression filled in. You fill it in because the human eye can see much more contrast than a camera.

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Not a digital camera, that films, photographs things completely differently to film camera.

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A film needs additional, that's why film cameras have flash guns on them to give the additional light.

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This, you know, she's not wearing a camera by the way.

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They had one camera on the lunar surface from Apollo 11.

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They had two in the spacecraft, but they knew it was one.

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It's called magazine 40. There's 121 images on that.

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You can check them on the NASA website. You'll see every photograph they took.

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They're all in focus, except the last two, I think it is.

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So this photograph here, taken under control studio lighting conditions here on Earth, as well, all the others.

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It actually been altered. This is the official image with just on the top of the head.

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And this is the image you're more likely to have seen with a nice bit of black at the top, so it balances the photograph out.

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When I first started looking at this whole Apollo anomalies, this is one of the only images I could find.

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I bought it at Astronomy Show in London.

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That was before the internet existed.

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And this is a sort of thing you had to get hold of, and that's where it all started.

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Because you can see where it's been added in.

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That's the original, which is a bit light.

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Just a tiny bit light, again, a bit of a pointer to something weird going on.

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Now, we'll move on to Apollo 12, and this is a similar picture to our beam coming down the ladder.

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Photographed by Conrad.

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But when you examine a photograph, this is what you find that it's been manipulated.

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It's been changed, it's been altered.

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Not very well.

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Maybe they thought nobody would ever bother to do a high contrast comparison.

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But why are all this?

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It's as if somebody has tried to black it out.

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All right, on Apollo 12, we have another sequence of eight photographs.

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Again, taken in sequence.

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Photographing the genome.

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This is the little thing they put on the ground that gave an indication of the colour rendition.

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And they take another one there.

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Oh, look, Astronaut, take a picture of him.

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Oh, God.

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Take another picture of the genome back again.

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Oh, here he is again.

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Now, on all those photographs, you would have to change the focus, the exposure, and get the composition right.

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They've done it brilliantly.

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Absolutely brilliantly.

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And there are no duplicate photographs.

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There are no overexposed photographs.

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There are no heads cut off.

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How did they do that?

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We'd know if you find it.

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And having to manually set the exposure, the aperture, and the focus.

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And none of them are known for photographers.

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Alben is quite a well known painter nowadays.

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This is a close up.

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You can see the photographer.

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A photographer, a traveler, is his hand isn't actually close enough to the camera to press the shutter button, but never mind.

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And you'll notice that here you're looking down on top of the camera.

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No viewfinder.

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And you can see all the deep.

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Where's all this light coming from?

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Light doesn't just appear.

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It has to be directed.

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So if that astronaut standing there on level ground in front of him is taking the picture, how come this camera is pointing at the ground?

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There was an idea, man.

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Is what?

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There was an idea.

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Here, maybe.

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Anyway.

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Again, in more detail of the close up of the image.

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Which we've covered there, we have another one.

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This is the second photograph.

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And you'll notice in the helmet here are the,

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I don't know what they are.

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Are they reflectance?

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Are they spotlights?

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Are they?

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What are they?

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Anybody got any ideas?

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They're what?

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Possibly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Obviously in our, you're suppose we're flying over, same on the house going on here.

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Is that a nice permission?

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Again, in more detail, showing just how mysterious some of these photographs actually are.

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And then if you look actually at the detail here, I remember I mentioned the crosshairs.

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Here, across there, and there are some at the top, which should obviously not visible because if they're on black background,

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they're not going to show up very much.

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But they do show up.

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It's as if it's a double exposure.

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Those crosshairs should not be there.

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If I took close together, this is where it should be.

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So I don't know what's going on with that one.

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Yeah, any more than I know what's going on with this one.

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Weird.

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This is Apollo 12.

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This is, uh, surveyor three, the unmancraft that landed on the moon.

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It just demonstrates it's quite possible to land unmancraft on the moon.

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And we're coming back to wireless relevant later.

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And this is one of the great mysterious photographs of all time.

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Photographs don't work like this.

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Right.

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This is Apollo 14, and Tarris.

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That's the sun there.

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This is the lunar surface, allegedly.

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And this is the shadow cast by the spacecraft.

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So where's all the light coming from?

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It is illuminating the shadow side of the spacecraft.

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If there's nothing on the moon to reflect sufficient light.

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Because the photograph, the directly illuminated surface here,

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as clearly as the totally dark shadow area here,

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you would need as much light reflected back into it as you have got on here.

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It's simple optics.

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There's nothing simple there.

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That is a fake.

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And just looking in detail at these crus hairs,

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it's as if there are two images coming on here.

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You've got one correct crus hair and one distorted crus hair.

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As if the film wasn't correctly in register when they baked it.

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Moving on to Apollo 15, I mentioned the highest mountain on the lunar surface.

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That is Mount Hadley.

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This one here.

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This is Mount Hadley Delta.

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Hence the strain symbol, which is just a little bit shorter.

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13,500 feet high now in San Verae High.

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It's above the lunar surface, and I don't know what point it was measured.

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But let's say it was measured above here.

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If you get to the U.S. Geological Survey maps, which you can find on the internet as well,

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they give you all the various heights.

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Okay.

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So let's say it's about 6,000 feet above the surface here.

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It's mountain here. It's about 6,000 feet above that.

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And this is what it looks like from ground level.

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This is Apollo 15, and there we have the lander and the rover and oh, and this is Mount Hadley Delta in the background.

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Okay. It's about 5,000,000 miles of away.

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Go back to here. This distance here is about 7 miles.

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I mentioned that because it's relevant to what we're going to see next.

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That is also the variation in the lunar surface here compared to the variation.

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There are the bland version that we've got here.

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And the very clearly defined line between the two.

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And also note, beautifully the American flag is illuminated in dark shadow.

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Again, they're very good at illuminating things in dark shadow with no additional light source.

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Just as a point of comparison, Mount Everest, haven't been up at Dick Coat.

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But Mount Everest here, Mount Everest base camp here is about 7 miles distance.

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The same as in that previous photograph of Apollo 15.

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It's also about the same height, Mount Everest 29,000 feet,

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but Everest base camp at 19,000 feet, similar height above the viewpoint.

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Does it look like it? This should be a similar photograph.

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It looks like Snowden's little sister that one. It's tiny.

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This is what it should look like and reasonable.

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Now here we have a bit of a mystery. This is Apollo 15.

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These are consecutive photographs, note the numbers.

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One, my 86, three and one, my 86, four. I actually double check that.

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I'll let one NASA website to make sure I got the numbers right.

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So, Scott here, Dave Scott, photograph by Irwin.

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Scott has got a camera on here. Irwin hasn't.

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How did Irwin take the photograph of Scott?

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There's only one camera that he put it on the ground.

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And why hasn't he got it here? It's just...

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Basically, it doesn't add up.

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The lunar rover, lunar land, it moves above the place.

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Similar point, these are photographs, different photographs.

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Same point on the photograph. There's only an alarm there.

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What's it doing over here? And how come there are two of them?

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Weird.

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Creators come and go.

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This got filled in before this photograph is taken.

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Obviously, the set builders were pretty busy.

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I'm not going to get involved in the C-rock.

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Anybody know what the C-rock is? It's a rock with a big letter C on it.

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Which appears in Apollo 16 photographs.

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Now, where was the lunar rover?

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Lunar rover here?

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Little trucks about the size of our Ford escort.

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Maybe a little bit smaller.

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Made by burying, but it couldn't fly.

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It could drive around.

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It's about £5 million each, and they just drove it for a day and left it there.

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Where was it stowed on the lander?

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Now, this is the lunar lander.

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This is photograph taken in the assembly.

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That's the ladder down which the astronauts are going to walk.

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There's the ladder there.

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It's the hatch. There's the ladder down there.

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That's the port side.

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So, call it because that is when you're looking out of it, which they do.

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They look out through the windows up on there.

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The port is on your left starboard on your right.

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So, it appears to be loaded on the left hand side, the port side.

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So, why is that empty and why is it there?

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It's just a bit of a mystery.

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It may well be that they hadn't unloaded it.

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So, what's that doing?

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I don't know.

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Again, an inconsistency with the official story.

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Right. Here's one for the astronomers present.

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I want to answer to this please.

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This is the Apollo 17 landing site.

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There in the picture is the command module that's just separated from the lunar lander,

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which is about to land and it was all bit the moon twice and it was land about that.

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Okay.

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That's the horizon here.

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On the way, it's about six to miles above the lunar surface.

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So, where's the Terminator?

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Terminator?

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No, Arnie.

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Terminator is the point where sunlight and darkness meet on any circular body.

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This is Apollo 11.

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Photographed.

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And this is not a shadow.

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This is just one of the thrusters.

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That's a Terminator. That's the picture you expect to see.

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So, where is the Terminator here?

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The shadow lengths are very similar.

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Terminator should be around here, but there's nothing on there.

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Now, when a lot of these images were taken,

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NASA was using a large model of the lunar surface,

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constructed from a lot of the photographs taken by the lunar orbital,

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not the lunar reconnaissance orbital that comes later.

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The lunar orbital, unmancraft,

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photographed the lunar surface, trying to find some at a land.

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And they did very good photographs up to about three foot resolution,

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which is better than they managed for the next 40 odd years.

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And they built a model of the moon.

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And they photographed that model.

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It's like secret about it. They filmed it as well,

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so that when the astronauts got into their landing simulators,

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they could project onto the screens outside the windows.

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What it looked like is they approached the moon.

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It's what any simulator will do.

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You can simulate landing a plane of Heathrow.

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And it looks like Heathrow, but it's all screens around.

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The pilot, same on the lunar land,

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they had a model. They photographed it. They filmed it.

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Who is to say that that isn't a picture of this model.

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And they forgot the Terminator.

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You start looking in detail at some of these photographs.

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They're probably 17, this one.

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And you'll see that there appears to be cutouts

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and strains background interference.

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You should not get that sort of interference.

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I know these are digital images, so you'll get pixels.

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But these are scanned images from the original transparencies we're told.

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And that's probably earth, though it's hard to tell.

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Now think about this for a minute.

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You're on somewhere you've never been before.

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You're wearing a space suit, which is bloody uncomfortable.

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Could be a bit hot and difficult.

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You've got a camera that's got no views,

442
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,400
and you've got to work out the exposure and the composition.

443
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,400
And you've got to get three objects lined up.

444
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,400
You've got to get your mate.

445
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Schmidt, you've got to get the American flag, obviously.

446
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,400
And you've got to get earth to show where you are.

447
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,400
I'm not on earth.

448
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
And you've got to get them lined up.

449
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Exactly right.

450
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Now I'll tell you what.

451
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,400
I've tried to recreate that photograph.

452
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,400
And after about 20 attempts, I just gave up.

453
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,400
It was almost impossible to get the three lined up.

454
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,400
Correctly exposed, correctly focused.

455
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,400
With no viewfinder, come on guys.

456
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Don't mess us about.

457
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,400
We're intelligent enough to be able to work these things out.

458
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,400
It's the only photograph taken.

459
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,400
There was no other image taken.

460
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,400
In case the first one was wrong.

461
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,400
How did they know that lined the moon up?

462
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Think of a viewfinder.

463
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,400
Apollo 17, the valley here, is about five, six miles across.

464
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400
That is a fault on the image.

465
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400
It's not anything special.

466
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,400
Now in that picture is the lunar lander.

467
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Where is it?

468
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,400
It is there.

469
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:32,400
Before we find out where it is, let's have a look at what happens if you extend the contrast.

470
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,400
You get this weird image on the back on the sky.

471
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,400
Why doesn't it extend all the way down?

472
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:49,400
Now you may well have heard the story about Kubrick and the front projection images and how he was supposedly involved.

473
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,400
I don't think he was involved with Apollo.

474
00:39:52,400 --> 00:40:01,400
You may well have been technical consultant because he was filming 2001 and space Odyssey just before Apollo 11.

475
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,400
And incidentally, his last film, Eyes Wide Shot.

476
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,400
He Stanley Kubrick died before the premiere.

477
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:18,400
But he specifically requested that the premiere of his last film, Eyes Wide Shot, was to be held on July.

478
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:27,400
19th, 1999, precisely 30 years after the landing of Apollo 11.

479
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,400
Coincidence possibly, I don't know.

480
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400
What's Kubrick involved?

481
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,400
I don't know.

482
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:43,400
I do know is that front screen projection, which is what he used in Apollo 2001, has been used by many filmmakers since then,

483
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,400
produces that sort of artifact in the background.

484
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,400
It's as the name implies, screen.

485
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,400
It's a huge cinema screen, in effect, a reflective screen.

486
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,400
It's made by a 3M's company.

487
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,400
And it has lots and lots of little beads, which reflect light.

488
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,400
It's what it's supposed to do, rather like this screen here.

489
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,400
This reflects light.

490
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,400
You put enough of them in the background.

491
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,400
You get that sort of artifact, which may be why some people have been slightly confused

492
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:24,400
and consider that there are structures on the lunar surface, which they only see in that sort of artifact.

493
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400
I don't know.

494
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Now, moving on.

495
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Similar picture, here we come to Apollo 17, but let's just find out where that clip in there it is.

496
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Land up.

497
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,400
It's up there.

498
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,400
Go back.

499
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:54,400
You can't see it until you enlarge it sufficiently for it to pop up and there it is.

500
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,400
Tiny.

501
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Okay.

502
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,400
Just to make sure it is there.

503
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,400
There it is.

504
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Oh, you've got to get ready close to see it.

505
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,400
This is what a telephoto lens image would look like.

506
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,400
The previous photograph wasn't taken with a telephoto lens.

507
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:23,400
Now, assuming that that is where the land actually landed, what's it doing over here?

508
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,400
Now, explain this.

509
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:32,400
These, here, these, it's the same feature in each photograph.

510
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,400
D is the same feature, the little mound.

511
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,400
B are these little craters here and here.

512
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,400
And E is this little dark area here.

513
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Especially just to show that it's looking in the same general direction.

514
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:56,400
So, we have here, and the first photograph we looked at, the lunar lander, miles away.

515
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,400
I mean, from where this, from this viewpoint, the lander is about four or five miles.

516
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,400
Three miles away.

517
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Which is about right for the type of image you've got.

518
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,400
You've got to get pretty close to see it.

519
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,400
So, if you take another photograph with the same feature in it,

520
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,400
what's the lander doing there?

521
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,400
That doesn't make sense.

522
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,400
Ditto here.

523
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,400
Same feature, different time of day because you've got more.

524
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400
They were on the surface for about three days.

525
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,400
And the sun will move in certain distances in that.

526
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400
So, the shadows will change.

527
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,400
But, he's just don't add up.

528
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
He's just don't make sense.

529
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,400
These are anomalies.

530
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400
As is this.

531
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Similar feature, be over here, the little craters, E, the little mound.

532
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,400
Big mountains here, big mountains here.

533
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Lander here, all up, squares you got.

534
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,400
Oh, it's here. Here we are. Here we are.

535
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400
That's the crater.

536
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,400
It didn't move.

537
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,400
We were not told it moved once it was on the lunar surface.

538
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,400
And it's disappeared again.

539
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,400
It bounces around this, this lander.

540
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,400
Disappeared.

541
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,400
You couldn't get the rover onto the lunar surface without the lander.

542
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Because he carried it there.

543
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,400
So, where's he gone?

544
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,400
Disappeared.

545
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,400
Again, consecutive photographs here.

546
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,400
One of them has was taken earlier here.

547
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:38,400
And the footprints are here, but not here, which is weird.

548
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,400
And then there's that genome that looks at the colour image.

549
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,400
How did they put it there?

550
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,400
There are no footprints anywhere near.

551
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,400
I stayed through it.

552
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,400
I dropped it.

553
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,400
Because you see footprints do appear on the lunar surface quite distinctly.

554
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,400
You get quite a lot of footprints.

555
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Now, wheel tracks.

556
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,400
Funny that.

557
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,400
We told it way about 450 pounds on earth, which

558
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,400
would make it weighing about 80-90 pounds on the lunar surface,

559
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,400
enough to produce a wheel track I would have thought.

560
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400
And they've very keen to show us the wheel tracks as we'll see later,

561
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,400
but they don't appear on here.

562
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,400
And then there were tracks.

563
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,400
Pending your footprints.

564
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,400
No wheel tracks did they drop it there.

565
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,400
You can say it's been moved.

566
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,400
There's dust in the wheel here.

567
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Do they kick it in?

568
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,400
Or what happened?

569
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,400
It's an anomaly.

570
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,400
It's an inconsistencies.

571
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,400
It's unexplained detail, which is the more you look at these things,

572
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,400
the more you get.

573
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,400
Oh, dear.

574
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
Here we go again.

575
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,400
This is the fake photograph of Apollo 14.

576
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Spin the thing round, so you've got the flag over here.

577
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,400
It's exactly the same image.

578
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Just reversed.

579
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:08,400
And then this photograph coming up now.

580
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Appeared in Alan Shepherd's biography called Moonshot.

581
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,400
Alan Shepherd is most famous for having taken a golf club under the Moon and surface.

582
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,400
Need a golf ball with it.

583
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,400
And guess what?

584
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,400
You can see the golf ball.

585
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,400
If you ever watch golf on television, yes, you can see golf balls flying through the air.

586
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Head on.

587
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
You can't see them going across.

588
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,400
But they moved too fast.

589
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,400
And they're quite small.

590
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400
Here's Alan Shepherd.

591
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
He's Ed Mitchell.

592
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,400
He has the craft.

593
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,400
Oh, the flag.

594
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,400
If you recall, it was right alongside the lander.

595
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,400
There's a check-aboard thing here.

596
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,400
So the question I asked originally was, who took this photograph?

597
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Because there were only ever two astronauts on the lunar surface at any one time.

598
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,400
We saw one on Apollo 11, and the photograph was taken on a cine camera.

599
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
This is a Hasselblad photograph.

600
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400
There are crosshairs.

601
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,400
Not very clear, but they are there.

602
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,400
But acrosshairs.

603
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,400
This is a composite of five separate images.

604
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,400
It was in Alan Shepherd's book, and it wasn't described as a composite.

605
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
This photograph blown up to about that size.

606
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,400
Was on display at the Kennedy Space Center.

607
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:33,400
And till we made the point to NASA, he said, well, we know this is a composite,

608
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,400
because no two astronauts were ever photographed together.

609
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,400
So why are you saying a composite?

610
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,400
Why are you saying a fake photograph?

611
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,400
They took it down.

612
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,400
But they wouldn't admit that it was a fake.

613
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400
They did say that they got one image here.

614
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Another image was here.

615
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,400
The spacecraft was the third image.

616
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,400
The flag was the separate image, and these were all painted on.

617
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,400
Sorry?

618
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,400
Come into that.

619
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,400
That's the video image.

620
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,400
Notice the flag is different.

621
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,400
But it's a similar composition.

622
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,400
That's why they got the idea from, obviously.

623
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
But then get it right.

624
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Either they're too arrogant to think anybody is going to notice.

625
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,400
Or too above everything to consider that anything they do would ever be questioned.

626
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:39,400
And even if it is questioned, as NASA said in response to David Perssey's questions,

627
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,400
quite legitimate questions when filmed on Sky Television,

628
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:50,400
his response to many of the questions was, we don't have enough time for this clap trap.

629
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,400
That's when NASA's coming from.

630
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Well, if you're a national academy of space actors, I suppose you probably wouldn't.

631
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,400
And then the moonrock, of course, don't forget the moonrock,

632
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,400
because that proves we went to the moon, doesn't it?

633
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,400
Moonrock, presumably, went there.

634
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,400
The Russians, not questioning it, proved we went there.

635
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,400
And the reflectors left on the moon, at which we found giant lasers.

636
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Prove we went there. No, it doesn't.

637
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:28,400
The Reich's Museum thought it was a big joke and kept it.

638
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,400
It's a piece of petrified wood.

639
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,400
Nobody told us they had petrified wood on the moon.

640
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:49,400
If you saw this original, would you believe that this would commemorate the visit of three astronauts on their well-tour,

641
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:55,400
to the Netherlands, presenting the Dutch government with a piece of moonrock, yes you would.

642
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,400
And then when you find that a whole thing is a complete fake,

643
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,400
and you laugh about it, and NASA shows not to respond.

644
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:11,400
Ah, I hear you say, but we know they landed on the moon, because, look, we photographed the landing sites.

645
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,400
Oh, wow. Oh, genius. Oh, this is so good.

646
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:21,400
God, please, I can forget it all now and go home and shut up and do something more interesting.

647
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:28,400
No. There's still haven't stopped faking things.

648
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,400
It's Apollo 12. We'll see the surveyor three here.

649
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:39,400
If I sound a little sarcastic and a little bit cynical, it's because I am.

650
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,400
I make no excuse for it.

651
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,400
The intrepid, that's the blander.

652
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:57,400
These are various craters that they named for various reasons, and you can see very, very faintly bootmarks,

653
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:05,400
because they didn't have a lunar rover at the stage. They only had themselves, so they walked everywhere.

654
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:11,400
But you can see these, okay, bootmarks.

655
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:19,400
Now, I don't know if anybody is familiar with a guy in Australia called Jarrah White, who produces under the name of Moon Faker,

656
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,400
so you can guess where he's coming from.

657
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,400
Very, very interesting videos looking at a lot of the evidence.

658
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:39,400
He's taken up the mantle of Ralph Rene and Bill Casing and working on proving that NASA basically lied to us a lot of the time.

659
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,400
And he's had a look at a lot of these lunar reconnaissance orbit of photographs,

660
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:51,400
and can demonstrate fairly conclusively that many of them are faint and manipulated.

661
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:59,400
He is actually a filmmaker himself, so he knows what to look for in digital images. These are digital images.

662
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:10,400
This isn't, this is one of the very first photographs taken by, I don't know, hang on, we're going too far back again.

663
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:16,400
This is Copernicus Crater in the center of the Moon, and it's what you expect to see.

664
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:25,400
It was taken on by the lunar orbiter, a confusing lunar orbiter, and it shows the Copernicus Crater,

665
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,400
which, to me, looks more like an open-cast coal mine than an impact crater,

666
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,400
which, as an impact crater by a lens astronomers who appear to know they're talking about,

667
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,400
I don't think they do, it's not an impact crater.

668
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,400
Impact craters are completely different.

669
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,400
Our impact crater is on the Moon, we've got a couple here on Earth, the most famous is meteor crater in Arizona.

670
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:53,400
It's saucer-shaped. You get a body traveling very fast impacting a solid object like Earth.

671
00:52:53,400 --> 00:53:00,400
It makes an impact crater, which is a diameter is eight times the depth.

672
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,400
That's 60 miles wide and three miles deep.

673
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,400
That's not an impact crater, it's got a flat floor, it's more likely to be an electrical discharge crater.

674
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:18,400
We're not going into the detail of Thunderbolts and electrical discharge is, which recorded throughout history,

675
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,400
but that is more what it looks like.

676
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,400
Now, what distance is that?

677
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,400
Sorry? What distance is that last? What distance above the surface?

678
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,400
Thirty miles.

679
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Yeah.

680
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:40,400
You're probably able to see it, but not very clearly.

681
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:46,400
Because they won't try to figure a close-up.

682
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,400
Right, this is the one unexplained.

683
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,400
It's never ever been photographed again.

684
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:01,400
The telecrater, bottom left hand corner of the Moon,

685
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,400
take a minute or more or more to five.

686
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,400
If you just Google rolling rocks on the Moon, this is what you'll get.

687
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:19,400
It's a tiny detail of a much larger image, but it shows quite distinctly a track.

688
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:27,400
And another track here, with an object at the end of the track.

689
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,400
Apparently, this object is about 75 foot across.

690
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,400
This is about 25 foot across.

691
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,400
I don't know what they are.

692
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,400
I know what I think they look like, but let's call them rocks for the moment.

693
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,400
When NASA were asked to explain this photograph, they said,

694
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,400
They are rocks dislodged by Moon Quakes.

695
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,400
Right.

696
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,400
That was their explanation.

697
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,400
That's the official explanation, which just shows when NASA's coming from,

698
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,400
basically never a straight answer.

699
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,400
So why didn't dislodge these rocks?

700
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,400
And these ones, and these ones, and lots of rocks.

701
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,400
And how come this one rolled up out of a crater?

702
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,400
About 800 foot across the lunar surface.

703
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,400
And this one about 1200 foot across the lunar surface.

704
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,400
And if you examine a photograph in more detail and slightly air areas,

705
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,400
there are another three rocks leaving similar tracks.

706
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,400
But telecrater, it's never been referred to,

707
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,400
what ever you think it is, I don't know what the answer is,

708
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,400
but I think it would justify further investigation.

709
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,400
Okay. I think we're seeing enough for the moment.

710
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,400
Let's just have a look at pale blue planet.

711
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400
Or the blue marble.

712
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,400
Now, whenever you see a photograph of the Earth,

713
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,400
this is the photograph you normally see.

714
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,400
And you can always tell it because there's a little triangle of cloud

715
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,400
above the Sudan.

716
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,400
It's the Red Sea, Saudi Arabia, Africa, Madagascar,

717
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Antarctica.

718
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,400
Australia over here somewhere, Britain up here somewhere.

719
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,400
It's a great photograph.

720
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,400
I don't know if it was taken by Apollo 8, which is what's claimed.

721
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,400
It could have been taken by a geocentric,

722
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,400
synchronous satellite, 22,000 miles out,

723
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,400
which is where your sky channels come from.

724
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Whatever it is, they don't seem to have been able to improve on it

725
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,400
since that was photographed.

726
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,400
Now, there are three objections to what I've been saying today.

727
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,400
The Russians would have blown the whistle.

728
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,400
They got the rocks mentioned there,

729
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,400
and they had the reflectors.

730
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,400
So, of course, they got to the moon.

731
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Because if they hadn't, the Russians would know,

732
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,400
this is the point, the Russians,

733
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,400
when asked, are you sending man to the moon?

734
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,400
They said, we're going to do our best,

735
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,400
and they had the rockets to do it, the N1 rocket.

736
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,400
They weren't tending to go to the moon,

737
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,400
but they told Bernard Lovall as he was there.

738
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,400
So, Bernard, as he is now, head of the General Bank of Talescope,

739
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,400
who was helping the Russians track their craft, which is nice.

740
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,400
And he said to them, when you're sending a man to the moon,

741
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,400
he said, when we can ensure his safer turn,

742
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,400
due to the dangers of radiation, the Russians knew about it.

743
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400
So, why didn't they bring the whistles on the Americans?

744
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,400
They were generous.

745
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,400
I thought, well, the Americans prepared to take higher risks than we are.

746
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,400
Okay, possibly.

747
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,400
They never attempted anything else,

748
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,400
but they'd been ahead of the Americans.

749
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,400
They got the first man in space, the first woman in space,

750
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,400
the first to the moon, Mars, and first to Venus.

751
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,400
They were very good at space travel.

752
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,400
So, why didn't the Russians bring the whistle?

753
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,400
Because their political system is so different from ours,

754
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,400
that who would have blown the whistle?

755
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,400
Who in Russia would have said, excuse me, you're faking it.

756
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Only the president of Soviet Union would have done that was presynic.

757
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,400
You get into the politics of it, and the whole politics of Apollo,

758
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,400
quite interesting, we're not going to too much detail.

759
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:20,400
Other than to say that the Russians were being supplied by America with wheat,

760
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,400
millions of tons of wheat.

761
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,400
They've been a drug, they've been a crock failure in Russia.

762
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,400
America, a generous people, they supplied it.

763
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Would Russia have blown the whistle and cut this a prior wheat off?

764
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,400
I don't know.

765
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,400
So, why didn't the scientists?

766
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400
Why didn't no scientists in Britain come for?

767
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Why does it take me to point out these things?

768
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,400
Why haven't the physicists, why haven't the scientists,

769
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:49,400
the biologists, the astronomers, the astrobiologists, all theseologists?

770
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,400
Why didn't they come forward and say, look,

771
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,400
I think there's something a little bit not quite right here,

772
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,400
because they're probably lost in job.

773
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,400
I haven't got a job to lose, I'm self-employed, doesn't matter.

774
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,400
Recently, since the opening up of the Soviet Union,

775
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:11,400
a lot of Soviet scientists have been able to examine the Apollo record

776
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,400
and some very interesting papers are coming out of Russia now.

777
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,400
One of which says that the Saturn-Fied rocket, as described,

778
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,400
was not powerful enough to lift the payload we are told it lifted

779
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,400
to the lunar surface, 46 tons.

780
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,400
It was not powerful enough to do it.

781
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,400
It could have lifted 28 tons, the way you determine that is the speed

782
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,400
of travel as it takes off.

783
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,400
You can read all about it, I'll give you the website at the end.

784
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:47,400
There were several reports of a faked reentry of the Apollo 15 craft

785
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:54,400
being pushed out of a big aircraft, was seen over the Pacific.

786
00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:00:01,400
The command module, I think they landed on the end of the parachutes,

787
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,400
the command module appears to be too light.

788
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,400
You can tell I'm not something ways when you put it in water,

789
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,400
and you know the dimensions of it, you can calculate how much water

790
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,400
it displays this.

791
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,400
We shall give you the weight, and it appears to be too light

792
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,400
to have done everything that we were told it did.

793
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:24,400
The Apollo 15 photographs have been examined by Russian cinematographers

794
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,400
and scientists, and they have determined that the parallax shown

795
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,400
of a photograph that should have been that when we showed up there,

796
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,400
it shows that there was some distant photograph being taken

797
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,400
to the parallax was wrong.

798
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,400
It appears that the photograph was not several kilometers away,

799
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,400
it was just a few hundred meters away.

800
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,400
The myth busts as show where they prove conclusively that

801
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,400
folks believe as were complete fruit cakes and should be shut up at once,

802
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,400
because of course they landed, of course they did everything they said.

803
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,400
Russian scientists have taken that show, Russian cinematographers have taken that show

804
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,400
and tried to recreate it to prove one of the other.

805
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,400
What they're saying is correct.

806
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,400
And the only way they could recreate the Russians could recreate

807
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,400
the myth busts as show was by thanking it, by adding in additional

808
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,400
lights to give the impact.

809
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,400
Now the Russians were quite honest, this is what we did,

810
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,400
this is what we tried to do, this is what we actually achieved.

811
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,400
You can see it on YouTube.

812
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:42,400
The Russians are starting to look at Apollo and the Russians are saying

813
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,400
we find problems with it.

814
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,400
Okay, there are other objections, how can you keep 400,000 people quiet?

815
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,400
How do you keep a secret?

816
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,400
400,000 people worked on Apollo during the 1960s.

817
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,400
How do you keep 400,000 people quiet?

818
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:04,400
Easy, the same way you did on the Manhattan Project and the D.D. landings.

819
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,400
You make it a matter of national security and national importance

820
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,400
and people would go along with that.

821
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,400
It's not, I'm not saying 400,000 people knew about this,

822
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,400
now they didn't, maybe 30, 40 at the most, would have known about it.

823
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,400
But secrets can be kept.

824
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,400
Radiation.

825
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,400
I thought, okay, radiation in space is dangerous to man.

826
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,400
You get too much of it, you tend to fry and produce weird offspring

827
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,400
and it's not a good thing to get a lot of radiation.

828
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,400
But the guys who went to the moon were protected from the radiation.

829
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,400
So I thought, hey, this is good.

830
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,400
So I wrote to NASA and said, you know these spacesuits you made for the astronauts

831
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,400
that went into space and protected them from the radiation.

832
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,400
Could they be used to go into Chernobyl and 3 Mile Island

833
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,400
and clear up the radio and know this?

834
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,400
I actually wrote to the manufacturers a company called Hamilton Standard,

835
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,400
a part of the international latex group who made bras,

836
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,400
that's why they made fitted costumes.

837
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,400
And they said, do you better address your question to NASA?

838
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Still waiting.

839
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400
Temperature in space on the moon minus 150 degrees centigrade,

840
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,400
which is about twice as cold as anywhere here on earth.

841
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,400
A cold is off temperature on earth about minus 80 in Siberia

842
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,400
and an Antarctica, very cold indeed.

843
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,400
On the moon plus 120 centigrade, which is more than the boiling point of water,

844
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,400
so how come batteries could survive that temperature variation.

845
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400
They won't anything other than standard batteries.

846
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Battery is 10 to go when it's too cold.

847
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:49,400
The vacuum of space is not a good area to us to work in.

848
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,400
So you've got to take your own atmosphere with you,

849
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,400
so you have a space suit to keep your blood from boiling.

850
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,400
You've got to be pressurized.

851
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,400
Try using a five pound per square inch pressurized,

852
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,400
going to it is not easy.

853
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,400
I know people who've attempted it.

854
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,400
So how come nobody's blown the whistle on all this?

855
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,400
Well, I have. A lot of people have.

856
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,400
We sell a book on an exustan called Dark Moon by David Percy

857
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,400
who's done a lot of research into this.

858
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,400
Eight years of research is father and law work for NASA

859
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,400
and said, look, just look at the Apollo record.

860
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,400
And along with David, I have to agree with his conclusion

861
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,400
that the Apollo record is seriously flawed.

862
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,400
If you find that you agree with us, fine.

863
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,400
If you don't agree with me, come and explain why.

864
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,400
But in the meantime, I would thank you very much indeed for your attention.

865
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:49,400
And that is the website at recommendlookingout.aullist.com

866
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,400
and NASA.gov.

867
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,400
Thank you.

868
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,400
Thank you.

869
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,400
I might have to roll four on this one.

870
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,400
Thank you very much.

871
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Right.

872
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,400
Thank you.

873
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Thank you.

874
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,400
Time for questions.

875
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,400
I'm expecting lots.

876
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,400
Here we go.

877
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,400
Now I can see you.

878
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,400
Yes, sir.

879
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,400
Sir, Barça Bral.

880
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,400
Is that Barça Bral?

881
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,400
Yes.

882
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,400
Sir, I'm looking for a question.

883
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,400
Are you creating the idea?

884
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,400
Oh, the Earth.

885
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,400
Yes.

886
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
Through the window.

887
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,400
The bad piece of filmmaking.

888
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,400
I mean, they didn't, you know, you think we'd all,

889
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,400
the resources behind them.

890
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,400
They could have at least got that right.

891
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,400
So, did you increase the Apollo and flight?

892
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,400
Yeah, I do.

893
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,400
It appears, fine.

894
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,400
There's also another interesting sequence in Apollo 13,

895
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,400
the actual Apollo 13.

896
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,400
I haven't mentioned Apollo 13.

897
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,400
Maybe I will.

898
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:23,400
Apollo 13, where you see these poor shivering, shivering in space,

899
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,400
shivering astronauts, sitting in the lunar land.

900
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,400
I'm waiting to go around the moon to come back to Earth.

901
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,400
And the window is blue.

902
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,400
The triangular window of the spacecraft.

903
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,400
Now, I thought space was black.

904
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,400
The only thing blue in space is Earth.

905
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,400
Were they in low Earth orbit all the time?

906
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,400
Apollo 13, I mentioned David Percy's book, Dark Moon.

907
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,400
Why is it called Dark Moon?

908
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,400
Because if Apollo 13 had landed, where it was supposed to land,

909
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:06,400
when it was supposed to land, that particular part of the moon was in darkness.

910
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:12,400
So, was Apollo 13 just a complete fabrication.

911
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,400
It appears so.

912
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,400
Because if it hadn't had the exploding oxygen thing,

913
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,400
how did that explode?

914
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,400
You think they got the quality control right?

915
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,400
Who was it who said that, you know, we're really in danger here.

916
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,400
We've NASA has put out to tender all the rockets and spacecraft

917
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,400
to the lowest bidder.

918
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,400
And what do they expect?

919
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,400
Exploding oxygen tanks.

920
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,400
Apollo 13 appears to be, and rather more mysterious than the Tom Hanks movie,

921
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,400
which there are a lot of questions about that,

922
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,400
which could be a talking itself.

923
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,400
You know, questions? Yes, sir.

924
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,400
What have you said?

925
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,400
Right.

926
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,400
What have you said?

927
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,400
What have you said?

928
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,400
What have you said?

929
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,400
What have you said?

930
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,400
What have you said?

931
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,400
What have you said?

932
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,400
What have you said?

933
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,400
What have you said?

934
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,400
What have you said?

935
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:27,400
What have you said?

936
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:28,400
What have you said?

937
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,400
What have you said?

938
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,400
What have you said?

939
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,400
What have you said?

940
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:32,400
What have you said?

941
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,400
The work cables in some of those, some of the images,

942
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,400
only Apollo 11 images, the war electric cables or cables on the ground.

943
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,400
They were linking the video camera to the spacecraft.

944
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:50,400
And then, there were no...

945
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,400
We were told there was live video transmission from the moon.

946
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,400
Right.

947
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,400
The question has always been, how much bandwidth do they need to do it?

948
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:04,400
And how much battery power was required to send those pictures back in real time?

949
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,400
Because that's what we were told.

950
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,400
We were watching real time pictures.

951
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:15,400
Which seems highly unlikely because the only way they could generate it was with batteries.

952
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,400
And they had hydrogen fuel cells.

953
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,400
But was there enough battery power?

954
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,400
And there has always been a question that maybe you haven't actually got to the answer.

955
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,400
So I don't know the answer to that.

956
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,400
I did say that we talk about the reflectors from very briefly.

957
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:35,400
We're continually being shown pictures of these lasers that fire up to the moon.

958
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,400
And then we get a reflector back so we can tell how far away the moon is.

959
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,400
The first time that was done was 1996.

960
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:52,400
Just after David Percy had interviewed ahead of the astronomy place in Arizona that was supposed to do it.

961
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,400
And they were at us. They didn't have it. They hadn't done it.

962
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,400
So they started doing it when he started asking questions.

963
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:04,400
Now the point about those lasers being far out of the moon is we know lasers is very thin.

964
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:10,400
But when it goes quarter-minute miles, how wide is the beam when it gets to the moon?

965
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,400
And the answer is two kilometers.

966
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,400
It's wide. It's not a straight beam all the way to the moon.

967
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,400
So when it gets to the moon, it's quite wide.

968
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,400
It bounces back. So how wide is it when it gets to the earth?

969
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:27,400
And how much of those laser photons get back to earth?

970
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,400
And what size this do you need to receive them on?

971
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,400
Six photons of light, apparently.

972
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:40,400
The point about reflectors is you don't need a reflector to reflect anything of the moon.

973
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:46,400
People were bouncing radar signals off the moon in the late 1950s.

974
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,400
It was a very secure form of radio communication.

975
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,400
You could bounce radio signals off the moon.

976
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Yeah. The problem with that is, it all I'm saying is that you can bounce it off.

977
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,400
Hmm?

978
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,400
Yeah.

979
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:29,400
We're not in any reflectors.

980
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,400
We're not in any reflectors.

981
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,400
We're not in any reflectors.

982
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,400
We're not in any reflectors.

983
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,400
Yeah.

984
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,400
So there are certainly a lot of, as a good point, thank you for that.

985
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:49,400
And also bear in mind that Yuri Guggarin wasn't the first man to orbit the earth.

986
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,400
Yeah.

987
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,400
There were eight others who died.

988
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,400
They were brave.

989
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:04,400
And we know that because the communication was being listened into by two Italian brothers in Milan,

990
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:10,400
who were ham radio operators and they rigged up something to listen into this strange communication.

991
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,400
And they had women's voices in space.

992
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:19,400
They had one space craft that literally went off to orbit the sun.

993
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,400
The Russians never actually fronted up to it until quite recently.

994
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,400
They have now.

995
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:29,400
So Guggarin wasn't the first up there. He was a propaganda version.

996
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,400
There's a lot of propaganda in it.

997
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,400
And that's what he was all about. He was propaganda.

998
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,400
Look, America don't have the oxygen coming second to anybody.

999
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,400
They'll use whoever they can find to help them.

1000
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,400
We've seen Ben Angelie doing it recently.

1001
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:50,400
We've seen Werner von Braun. He was German. He helped them.

1002
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,400
Charlie Chaplin helped with the film business.

1003
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,400
It doesn't mean to say that America has failed.

1004
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,400
It means that they have the ability to use as many people as necessary to achieve their objective.

1005
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:06,400
But that's what they did. They achieved their objective of demonstrating to the world.

1006
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,400
We are good. Our system is the best.

1007
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,400
Fine. I'm not arguing with that.

1008
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,400
But at least let's get some truth about what happened.

1009
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:24,400
So if anybody can help get the truth out, wow, that's what we're here for.

1010
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,400
Yeah.

1011
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,400
There's an area where you know what I'm saying.

1012
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,400
Yeah.

1013
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,400
There's a lot of things like that.

1014
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,400
If you want to get into the subject of the moon, is it artificial?

1015
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,400
Is it hollow? Is that why your face comes from? Come around the back.

1016
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,400
Why does it keep one face towards us at all times?

1017
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,400
Oh, the geofa, go around the back.

1018
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,400
I think.

1019
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,400
So you see the last question?

1020
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,400
Yeah.

1021
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,400
Yeah.

1022
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,400
Right.

1023
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,400
When the lunar land takes off from the lunar surface,

1024
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:18,400
is videoed, how did they pan up to follow it?

1025
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,400
Good point.

1026
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:21,400
Practice.

1027
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,400
The camera was operated from Houston.

1028
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,400
This is the official story.

1029
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,400
Operating from Houston. I forget the name of the camera operator.

1030
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,400
He had to start the upward pan.

1031
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,400
It was about a second and a third delay, time delay.

1032
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,400
Yeah.

1033
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,400
Because of the distance between the earth and the moon,

1034
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,400
there's a time delay.

1035
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,400
Because light and light and light travel,

1036
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,400
whatever it's been.

1037
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,400
300,000 kilometers a second.

1038
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,400
Quite fast.

1039
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,400
But there's still over that distance.

1040
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,400
It's a delay.

1041
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,400
So they had to practice the upward pan.

1042
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:07,400
The point about that particular image is that when it takes off,

1043
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,400
when the lunar land takes off,

1044
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,400
to join the orbiting command module,

1045
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,400
it's firing a rocket.

1046
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,400
Right.

1047
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,400
The rocket is using the same fuel,

1048
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,400
which I wouldn't have to pronounce.

1049
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,400
But it's an oxidizer and a fuel.

1050
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,400
And the two are brought together.

1051
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:29,400
It explodes.

1052
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,400
And that's why it works so well.

1053
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,400
Because it doesn't mean moving parts.

1054
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,400
It's just pressurized.

1055
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,400
But it's the same fuel as the space shuttle.

1056
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,400
And when you see the space shuttle maneuvering systems working,

1057
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,400
I'm getting the space shuttle into position.

1058
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,400
Now, film quite regularly.

1059
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,400
You see flashes of light.

1060
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,400
Every time the rocket is fired,

1061
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,400
it's still in space.

1062
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,400
Lower the orbit.

1063
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,400
250 miles up.

1064
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,400
But on the moon, you see nothing.

1065
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,400
You see no light.

1066
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:59,400
You see no image.

1067
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:00,400
You see no.

1068
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,400
You see just being shot up on a bungee rope.

1069
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,400
Because that's what it appears to be.

1070
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,400
Is it a model?

1071
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,400
We don't know.

1072
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,400
We've got no scale to do.

1073
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,400
Some of the images are pretty sure.

1074
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,400
Our models, especially the ones of the lunar rover,

1075
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,400
in action.

1076
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,400
That appears to be a radio control model.

1077
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,400
So you've got all these odd things.

1078
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,400
But we want to believe it.

1079
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:31,400
A lot of people I know who get quite upset when you start deconstructing a polo.

1080
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,400
And there are many, many questions like that, which you can bring up and say,

1081
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,400
OK, you know why this, why that?

1082
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,400
People get upset because it's part of their nature.

1083
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,400
It's a belief in something as iconic at that word again.

1084
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,400
Something as iconic as a polo.

1085
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,400
Voted the top TV moment of the 20th century.

1086
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:58,400
One small step that image we've all got, a dear kneel.

1087
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,400
Right down the ladder.

1088
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,400
Black and white image fuzzy talking to the president.

1089
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,400
I mean, it's a brilliant production.

1090
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,400
I'll give it that.

1091
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,400
It's a brilliant production.

1092
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,400
But did it happen the way we would tell.

1093
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,400
I don't think.

1094
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,400
That's what we're here for.

1095
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1096
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1097
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1098
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1099
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1100
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1101
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1102
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1103
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1104
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1105
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1106
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1107
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.

1108
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,400
I'm not sure if you can see it.