1 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,200 Music 00:23.000 --> 00:27.000 Basically I've got, as Anthony said, following up on what Anthony said 00:27.000 --> 00:31.000 and I've called this presentation Secrets in the Soul System 00:31.000 --> 00:34.000 which I've put together about a year or so ago 00:34.000 --> 00:38.000 but it's developed from various of the presentations I've put together over the years 00:38.000 --> 00:42.000 and so I'm probably have to skip over quite a lot of stuff 00:42.000 --> 00:45.000 so I think we're going to run, what time are we going to finish Anthony? 00:45.000 --> 00:47.000 Anthony, now we've got to start 00:47.000 --> 00:48.000 Okay, so 00:48.000 --> 00:49.000 Yeah, okay 00:49.000 --> 00:52.000 So I'll probably skip over quite a bit 00:52.000 --> 00:54.000 but that's why I can't write up this slide up 00:54.000 --> 00:56.000 I've got a stool in the back room there 00:56.000 --> 00:58.000 it's off to the side, if you haven't found it yet 00:58.000 --> 01:01.000 and I've got this DVD, I've got a DVD of this presentation 01:01.000 --> 01:03.000 which runs for about two hours 01:03.000 --> 01:05.000 and that costs you £50 01:05.000 --> 01:07.000 along with all the other DVDs I've got 01:07.000 --> 01:09.000 some of you who are familiar with these DVDs 01:09.000 --> 01:12.000 I do sell them through the website, check theedvids.com, that's my website 01:12.000 --> 01:15.000 so please get them there if they're running out today 01:15.000 --> 01:17.000 I've got a few copies of Dr. G 01:17.000 --> 01:20.000 with where the tellers go, some of you know my name 01:20.000 --> 01:22.000 may know my name connected with that 01:22.000 --> 01:24.000 we're still dealing with that issue 01:24.000 --> 01:26.000 so come to my store, come and talk to me 01:26.000 --> 01:28.000 most of this stuff is online 01:28.000 --> 01:31.000 apart from the actual text of the where the tellers go 01:31.000 --> 01:32.000 that's not online 01:32.000 --> 01:34.000 so everything else is online, so you don't have to buy anything 01:34.000 --> 01:36.000 I'm not going to make you money from this 01:36.000 --> 01:38.000 and following on from that 01:38.000 --> 01:40.000 you shouldn't believe anything I say 01:40.000 --> 01:42.000 because my background is in software engineering 01:42.000 --> 01:44.000 and I don't know anything about astronomy 01:44.000 --> 01:46.000 I don't know anything about any of this 01:46.000 --> 01:49.000 and I now assess the same students for a living 01:49.000 --> 01:52.000 I'm a tutor at the University part-time 01:52.000 --> 01:55.000 on a third-party program called Technologies and Practice 01:55.000 --> 01:59.000 so make of this what you will 01:59.000 --> 02:02.000 we're going to look in this presentation 02:02.000 --> 02:04.000 and we've got time for 02:04.000 --> 02:08.000 we're going to look at NASA and the other scientific data 02:08.000 --> 02:12.000 about Mars, Phogos, Iapetus and the Sun 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 from the SOHO Proprimary 02:14.000 --> 02:17.000 we can ask are most scientists deliberately ignoring 02:17.000 --> 02:19.000 the most intriguing data? 02:19.000 --> 02:22.000 does the data indicate life and intelligence 02:22.000 --> 02:25.000 past or present elsewhere in the solar system? 02:25.000 --> 02:27.000 I would say definitely 02:27.000 --> 02:30.000 so we're going to start off with a little bit about Mars 02:30.000 --> 02:32.000 and Anthony will talk a little bit about 02:32.000 --> 02:34.000 just a few brief facts and figures 02:34.000 --> 02:37.000 basically the mass is about tenth of the Earth 02:37.000 --> 02:40.000 the volume is about 15% of the Earth 02:40.000 --> 02:42.000 the equatorial radius is about half 02:42.000 --> 02:44.000 the polar radius is also about half 02:44.000 --> 02:47.000 the mean density is about 0.7 02:47.000 --> 02:50.000 and the surface gravity is about third of what it is on the Earth 02:50.000 --> 02:53.000 so it is a different world, it's a smaller world as you can see there 02:53.000 --> 02:56.000 but there's still a whole lot of land on there to look at 03:00.000 --> 03:04.000 and it's interesting to note there's been an enormous amount of interest in Mars over the years 03:04.000 --> 03:07.000 there's been a flotilla of 50 space probes 03:07.000 --> 03:11.000 the first attempt made in the Russian Marsnik program 03:11.000 --> 03:14.000 with Marsnik 1 in 1960 so we're going about over 50 years now 03:14.000 --> 03:17.000 most of those were unsuccessful 03:17.000 --> 03:20.000 Mars 4 was the first successful probe 03:20.000 --> 03:23.000 which took place in July 1965 03:23.000 --> 03:26.000 and that incident was covered by a certain fellow called Richard Holland 03:26.000 --> 03:29.000 and that was done in a radio broadcast at the time 03:29.000 --> 03:33.000 of course there wasn't quite as much television then as there is now 03:33.000 --> 03:36.000 and I'll say there's been over 50 mission attempts 03:36.000 --> 03:39.000 with a number of failed and reported missions both from the USA and Russia 03:39.000 --> 03:42.000 the most sophisticated to date is probably the Curiosity rover 03:42.000 --> 03:45.000 which is as big as a car 03:45.000 --> 03:48.000 so a very complex robotic probe 03:48.000 --> 03:51.000 which I'll mention a little bit about later on 03:51.000 --> 03:54.000 but I got interested in Mars 03:54.000 --> 03:57.000 particularly, I tell this story every time I show this slide 03:57.000 --> 04:00.000 in 1976 when I heard the Viking probe was going up 04:00.000 --> 04:03.000 I was interested in it 04:03.000 --> 04:06.000 so the Apollo missions 04:06.000 --> 04:09.000 which I'll mention as well 04:09.000 --> 04:12.000 I've got a DVD about that 04:12.000 --> 04:15.000 the Viking 1 and Viking 2 each consisted of an orbiter and a line there 04:15.000 --> 04:18.000 some that went around the planet and some that actually landed on the planet 04:18.000 --> 04:21.000 primary mission objectives were to obtain high resolution images 04:21.000 --> 04:24.000 of the Martian surface, characterize structure 04:24.000 --> 04:27.000 and composition of the atmosphere and note there 04:27.000 --> 04:30.000 to search for life 04:30.000 --> 04:33.000 Viking 1 was launched on August 20th, 1975 04:33.000 --> 04:36.000 and arrived at Mars on June 9th, 1976 04:36.000 --> 04:39.000 so it takes just under a year to get there 04:39.000 --> 04:42.000 Viking 2 was launched on September 9th, 1975 04:42.000 --> 04:45.000 arrived July 76 04:45.000 --> 04:48.000 the total cost of the Viking project was roughly 04:48.000 --> 04:51.000 $1 billion 04:51.000 --> 04:54.000 so about almost 40 years now, $1 billion 04:54.000 --> 04:57.000 now the thing that I've got a clip about 04:57.000 --> 05:00.000 I've got a clip about this 05:00.000 --> 05:03.000 I'm not going to tell you too much about this on this slide 05:03.000 --> 05:06.000 but they carried an experiment which was specifically designed 05:06.000 --> 05:09.000 to detect microorganisms 05:09.000 --> 05:12.000 that you call total wave on release 05:12.000 --> 05:15.000 I've got a clip I'm going to play about that in relation to that 05:15.000 --> 05:18.000 as soon as I'm in a few slides time 05:18.000 --> 05:21.000 so they definitely carried something which was looking for life 05:21.000 --> 05:24.000 now Herbland tells this story 05:24.000 --> 05:27.000 that what happened is when Viking landed 05:27.000 --> 05:30.000 that they were getting their first colour pictures through 05:30.000 --> 05:33.000 I think on the second day, you'll see that in a minute 05:33.000 --> 05:36.000 and somebody 05:36.000 --> 05:39.000 when they first had the pictures they looked 05:39.000 --> 05:42.000 basically like the one on the left there 05:42.000 --> 05:45.000 with this sort of bluish tinted sky 05:45.000 --> 05:48.000 but then somebody came around and started adjusting all the monitors 05:48.000 --> 05:51.000 to give it a red looking sky 05:51.000 --> 05:54.000 and why would they do that? 05:54.000 --> 05:57.000 they were able to detect Mars the living planet by 05:57.000 --> 06:00.000 Gill Loving who designed the labelled release experiment 06:00.000 --> 06:03.000 I just mentioned and Barry E. Degregorio 06:03.000 --> 06:06.000 now what you find is that 06:06.000 --> 06:09.000 if you actually take the original NACS of data 06:09.000 --> 06:12.000 because these images that were taken by the Viking 06:12.000 --> 06:15.000 were actually taken with a micro main black and white camera 06:15.000 --> 06:18.000 and they were taken with a red, green and blue filter 06:18.000 --> 06:21.000 RGB, that's how you make a TV with RGB 06:21.000 --> 06:24.000 but if you go back and you download the original images 06:24.000 --> 06:27.000 the red, green and blue images from the Viking probe 06:27.000 --> 06:30.000 and you use the focus specifications that NACS used 06:30.000 --> 06:33.000 and you reprocess the image in Photoshop or another image in editing package 06:33.000 --> 06:36.000 the image at the top is what actually come out of it 06:39.000 --> 06:42.000 now 06:42.000 --> 06:45.000 when I found out that I was quite interested but I'm now going to play you a clip 06:45.000 --> 06:48.000 from a BBC document which was broadcast in 2009 06:48.000 --> 06:51.000 called Journey to Mars 06:51.000 --> 06:54.000 and you'll see it in a minute 06:54.000 --> 06:57.000 this particular clip was also reusing 06:57.000 --> 07:00.000 a 1976 documentary 07:00.000 --> 07:03.000 and there's the first piece of information coming in 07:08.000 --> 07:11.000 oh, oh 07:11.000 --> 07:14.000 say something to it 07:14.000 --> 07:17.000 yeah I'm supposed to say something at this point 07:17.000 --> 07:20.000 I don't like talking 07:20.000 --> 07:23.000 well there are rocks 07:23.000 --> 07:26.000 there's rocks and there's sentiment 07:26.000 --> 07:29.000 it's just incredible to see that the Mars 07:29.000 --> 07:32.000 is really there 07:32.000 --> 07:35.000 instant interpretation 07:35.000 --> 07:38.000 is always a little bit hazardous 07:38.000 --> 07:41.000 nonetheless many of these boulders do look 07:41.000 --> 07:44.000 very similar to the ones that we've seen in desert terrain 07:44.000 --> 07:47.000 some of these boulders may be 07:47.000 --> 07:50.000 fascicular, that is, basaltic rocks 07:50.000 --> 07:53.000 possibly volcanic rocks that have solidified 07:53.000 --> 07:56.000 in a gas-charged environment and these gases 07:56.000 --> 07:59.000 produce vesicles or holes 07:59.000 --> 08:02.000 just looks like a 08:02.000 --> 08:05.000 perfect set-down 08:05.000 --> 08:08.000 the first picture of the Martian panorama 08:09.000 --> 08:12.000 as you look at the field of view in general 08:12.000 --> 08:15.000 I think the most striking impression 08:15.000 --> 08:18.000 is one of a lot of rocks 08:18.000 --> 08:21.000 and this automatically brings to mind 08:21.000 --> 08:24.000 the fact that we had a good deal of luck 08:24.000 --> 08:27.000 because some of these rocks are about 2-3 metres across 08:27.000 --> 08:30.000 and had the spacecraft landed on those rocks 08:30.000 --> 08:33.000 it would have been disabled, probably permanently disabled 08:33.000 --> 08:36.000 later high-resolution pictures 08:36.000 --> 08:39.000 confirmed the rocks were volcanic 08:39.000 --> 08:42.000 but lying on dunes of fine sand 08:42.000 --> 08:45.000 on the second day 08:45.000 --> 08:48.000 the first pictures in colour 08:51.000 --> 08:54.000 Mars was indeed the red planet 08:54.000 --> 08:57.000 or at any rate, blue-red 08:57.000 --> 09:00.000 but the colours were false 09:00.000 --> 09:03.000 it was noticed that one of the cables on the spacecraft 09:03.000 --> 09:06.000 was not orange enough 09:06.000 --> 09:09.000 the colour was corrected 09:09.000 --> 09:12.000 and Mars turned even redder 09:12.000 --> 09:15.000 the reason for their mistake? 09:15.000 --> 09:18.000 the sky, everyone had assumed it would be blue 09:18.000 --> 09:21.000 like on Earth, but on Mars 09:21.000 --> 09:24.000 scattered dust turns the sky pink 09:24.000 --> 09:27.000 and makes sunsets purple 09:27.000 --> 09:30.000 oh really, well you may recognise the 09:30.000 --> 09:33.000 very famous actor, William Franklin 09:33.000 --> 09:36.000 he was claiming in his narration 09:36.000 --> 09:39.000 that they had a red cable 09:39.000 --> 09:42.000 so they judged the colour of the image 09:42.000 --> 09:45.000 based on the colour of the cable 09:45.000 --> 09:48.000 that's what he said 09:48.000 --> 09:51.000 this is false, basic research proves it is false 09:51.000 --> 09:54.000 you'll see here, I've got this right 09:54.000 --> 09:57.000 these colour calibration charts 09:57.000 --> 10:00.000 and guess what? calibrating the colour of the image 10:00.000 --> 10:03.000 so why is William Franklin in his narration 10:03.000 --> 10:06.000 going on about looking at the colour of a cable 10:06.000 --> 10:09.000 when they've got colour calibration charts 10:09.000 --> 10:12.000 and you can read a scientific paper about how those 10:12.000 --> 10:15.000 calibration charts were used 10:15.000 --> 10:18.000 so the BBC was putting out false information in its documentary in 1976 10:18.000 --> 10:21.000 and rebroadcasting the same false information in 2009 10:21.000 --> 10:24.000 why? now as I said I don't know anything about astronomy 10:24.000 --> 10:27.000 so if I can find that out, surely the BBC researches 10:27.000 --> 10:30.000 that make these horizon robes can find it out 10:30.000 --> 10:33.000 surely, the rest of my case 10:33.000 --> 10:36.000 and this happened over and over again 10:36.000 --> 10:39.000 this is from the Spirit Not The Juicy Robes 10:39.000 --> 10:42.000 they have this lightness joystick and what you see here is 10:42.000 --> 10:45.000 you see we've got a red panel on Mars 10:45.000 --> 10:48.000 but on Earth it was blue, this is impossible 10:48.000 --> 10:51.000 because this is reflective light 10:51.000 --> 10:54.000 it's blue because it absorbs all the light from the spectrum except the blue 10:54.000 --> 10:57.000 and it reflects the blue 10:57.000 --> 11:00.000 so if you've got red light coming from the sky of Mars 11:00.000 --> 11:03.000 shining red light on the blue paper doesn't make blue paper turn red 11:03.000 --> 11:06.000 it would sort of give a muddy grey colour 11:06.000 --> 11:09.000 so this happened over and over again 11:09.000 --> 11:12.000 I won't go through all the reasons, and then we have pictures like this for example 11:12.000 --> 11:15.000 this is an ESA picture from Mars Express 11:15.000 --> 11:18.000 28th July 2005 11:18.000 --> 11:21.000 this is a picture of a quantity of crater with water ice 11:21.000 --> 11:24.000 look today, 2005, we'll come back to this 11:24.000 --> 11:27.000 if this is some sort of ice, it's vaguely reflective 11:27.000 --> 11:30.000 so why is it blue? 11:30.000 --> 11:33.000 how can it be blue if it's reflecting colour of a red scar? 11:33.000 --> 11:36.000 and then similarly we have pictures like this 11:36.000 --> 11:39.000 this is from Mars Global Survey, it's very popular 11:39.000 --> 11:42.000 still very common that a lot of these pictures are still given in monochrome 11:42.000 --> 11:45.000 they don't give you the morning colour, they're still given in monochrome 11:45.000 --> 11:48.000 this is a green colouration 11:48.000 --> 11:51.000 this is from the Giuseppe crater 11:51.000 --> 11:54.000 which I think is where the Spirit rover landed 11:54.000 --> 11:57.000 these rovers landed in 2004 11:57.000 --> 12:00.000 it's claimed by some people 12:00.000 --> 12:03.000 that NASA has filtered some of the images 12:03.000 --> 12:06.000 to hide the presence of chloropon 12:06.000 --> 12:09.000 which is a green colour, that's what's in the rocks and it causes 12:09.000 --> 12:12.000 that's what allows for the synthesis 12:12.000 --> 12:15.000 now we'll get into some more data that's ignored 12:15.000 --> 12:18.000 and re-reported in fact 12:18.000 --> 12:21.000 we'll come onto that 12:21.000 --> 12:24.000 in July 2004 it was stated by Professor Vittorio Formisano 12:24.000 --> 12:27.000 that Mars Express implementation had detected 12:27.000 --> 12:30.000 ammonia, methane and even fluorine in the Martian atmosphere 12:30.000 --> 12:33.000 these are biomarker gases indicating ongoing life processes 12:33.000 --> 12:36.000 in February 2005 Formisano said 12:36.000 --> 12:39.000 my observations should not be taken as a statement 12:39.000 --> 12:42.000 there is a life on Mars today 12:42.000 --> 12:45.000 because we need to go there, to drill the soil, to take samples 12:45.000 --> 12:48.000 and analyse them before possibly concluding that life is there 12:48.000 --> 12:51.000 I'm sorry but that's what writing did in 1976 12:51.000 --> 12:54.000 over 20 years earlier 12:54.000 --> 12:57.000 and Gilbert Ludden's experiment worked to detect living microorganisms 12:57.000 --> 13:00.000 in the soil, again I'll come back to that 13:00.000 --> 13:03.000 Formisano, a space scientist, forgot about that 13:03.000 --> 13:06.000 seems very strange going on here 13:06.000 --> 13:09.000 and then again, 2009 13:09.000 --> 13:12.000 four years later 13:12.000 --> 13:15.000 NASA, methane clouds could be evidence of life on Mars 13:15.000 --> 13:18.000 2015, 2009 13:18.000 --> 13:21.000 it's in the Belfast Telegraph 13:21.000 --> 13:24.000 but it's also NASA's own website 13:24.000 --> 13:27.000 Mars and methane reveals that the red planet is not a dead planet 13:27.000 --> 13:30.000 2009, 15th of January 13:30.000 --> 13:33.000 why, I'm not going to say it here, we go again 13:33.000 --> 13:36.000 we have similar reports again 13:36.000 --> 13:39.000 on 4th of December 2012, less than a year ago 13:39.000 --> 13:42.000 curiosity rover detects water and organic compounds on Mars 13:42.000 --> 13:45.000 the rover also detected its first organic compounds 13:45.000 --> 13:48.000 in the form of chlorinated methane 13:48.000 --> 13:51.000 created during the analysis process 13:51.000 --> 13:54.000 within the sample analysis at Mars tool 13:54.000 --> 13:57.000 however, while the 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20:40.200 Ever since the Viking probe landed on Mars in 1976, 20:40.200 --> 20:44.200 NASA has been trying to find out if life once existed 20:44.200 --> 20:47.200 or if it still exists there today. 20:47.200 --> 20:50.200 30 years later, in December of 2006, 20:50.200 --> 20:55.200 Today you will hear what many are saying may be the most significant discoveries to date. 20:55.200 --> 21:00.200 NASA scientists released photographs that suggest there is life. 21:00.200 --> 21:03.200 Pictures that show water on Mars. 21:03.200 --> 21:07.200 We can honestly talk about liquid water on the surface of Mars today. 21:07.200 --> 21:12.200 The news was reported in the national media and was hailed as a major discovery. 21:12.200 --> 21:18.200 The only problem, another man says he made the very same discovery nearly three years earlier. 21:18.200 --> 21:23.200 You came to the conclusion that there was water and life on Mars when? 21:23.200 --> 21:27.200 The date when I was first certain of it was February 15, 2004. 21:27.200 --> 21:32.200 Charles Schulz looks and sounds like a modern-day Einstein. 21:32.200 --> 21:38.200 Using the Freedom of Information Act, he obtained more than 200,000 Mars images from NASA. 21:38.200 --> 21:43.200 And after thousands of hours of research, he came to some startling conclusions. 21:43.200 --> 21:48.200 Many of the things that I've seen look very clearly like the recent erosion or presence of water, 21:48.200 --> 21:55.200 liquid water on the surface, and many of the images show what appear to be fossil organisms, marine fossils. 21:55.200 --> 21:59.200 Right, fossils on Mars, and not just a few. 21:59.200 --> 22:02.200 Schulz says the planet is littered with them. 22:02.200 --> 22:06.200 Right now the planet has extremely thin air, very tough living conditions, 22:06.200 --> 22:12.200 but it is wet on the surface in many areas and it is covered with fossil remains from marine organisms. 22:12.200 --> 22:18.200 Some of the fossils we found are seashells, and very clearly they are identical to the things we'd find on the Earth. 22:18.200 --> 22:22.200 This is a conch shell apparently found on the planet Mars, and this is one on the Earth. 22:22.200 --> 22:26.200 And you can see there's an absolute identical appearance to both of them. 22:26.200 --> 22:29.200 Schulz shelled me picture after picture. 22:29.200 --> 22:30.200 This is a trilobite fossil. 22:30.200 --> 22:32.200 All NASA images. 22:32.200 --> 22:36.200 This is Opportunity, the rover found on the 158th day of its imaging. 22:36.200 --> 22:38.200 And all of them compelling. 22:38.200 --> 22:43.200 This clearly looks like water flow to me and mud. 22:43.200 --> 22:44.200 It is. 22:44.200 --> 22:51.200 The rover, the Opportunity, these Mars crafts that have gone up there and literally have gotten stuck. 22:51.200 --> 22:52.200 Stuck in the mud? 22:52.200 --> 22:54.200 In many cases, yes. 22:54.200 --> 22:58.200 Schulz's research has the potential to change the way we think about the universe. 22:58.200 --> 23:03.200 He's written numerous articles for scientific magazines and books on the subject. 23:03.200 --> 23:06.200 The latest is a fossil hunter's guide to Mars. 23:06.200 --> 23:11.200 In it, he carefully lays out his research and conclusions. 23:11.200 --> 23:13.200 NASA explained your findings. 23:13.200 --> 23:15.200 Actually, they've ignored it. 23:15.200 --> 23:21.200 In the beginning when I began posting a lot of my information and sending it to them as well, there was some interest. 23:21.200 --> 23:28.200 And my website had hits from 40 to 90% from Mars researchers, NASA particularly, and other. 23:28.200 --> 23:32.200 But over time, the news died off and there was no response. 23:32.200 --> 23:35.200 So they actually pretty much ignored what I posted. 23:35.200 --> 23:46.200 NASA director Charlie Bolden won't speculate on the potential for water or fossils on Mars, but he's hoping the next rover mission, Curiosity, will answer those questions once and for all. 23:46.200 --> 23:48.200 It takes off this November. 23:48.200 --> 23:52.200 The first data is expected by the fall of next year. 23:52.200 --> 23:55.200 We expect to make discoveries with Curiosity. 23:55.200 --> 23:58.200 I don't want to set great expectations. 23:58.200 --> 24:01.200 What we find will be different from what we found before. 24:01.200 --> 24:03.200 It will look at the soil of Mars. 24:03.200 --> 24:07.200 It's looking for any signs of microbes or microbial life there. 24:07.200 --> 24:10.200 It's absolutely incredible what it's going to do. 24:10.200 --> 24:14.200 And when I pressed him on Schulz's claims of fossils on Mars... 24:14.200 --> 24:15.200 I don't know. 24:15.200 --> 24:19.200 I wish I could say yes, I do, but I don't know. I really don't. 24:19.200 --> 24:24.200 Bolden referred me to a NASA scientist who's been working on the very same subject. 24:24.200 --> 24:35.200 This activity, especially the fact that it's going on today, to me says that the mid-latitudes of Mars are one of the more remarkable places in the solar system. 24:35.200 --> 24:38.200 Phil Christensen is well known for his work on Mars. 24:38.200 --> 24:41.200 Remember that December 06 announcement of water on Mars? 24:41.200 --> 24:46.200 Well, Christensen was there, and NASA's conclusions were supported by his research. 24:46.200 --> 24:52.200 NASA's goal, long-term goal, is to land on Mars, collect rocks, and bring them back to Earth... 24:52.200 --> 25:02.200 so that we can examine them in laboratories here under microscopes and look for any evidence of fossils or any other evidence of ancient life on Mars. 25:02.200 --> 25:08.200 I'm very confident that that rover will make discoveries that will really change our thinking. 25:08.200 --> 25:11.200 Again, every time we look, we find an interesting place. 25:11.200 --> 25:21.200 There were clearly environments on Mars billions of years ago that were very much like the Earth, and it's very possible that life may have started there. 25:21.200 --> 25:26.200 Again, that would be a fantastic discovery, and that could be coming in the next year or so. 25:26.200 --> 25:29.200 I think that they have been ready with this for a very long time. 25:30.200 --> 25:38.200 The first researchers on the rover teams included an oceanographer, a marine biologist, who was looking at the images. 25:38.200 --> 25:40.200 And that's very telling in its own right. 25:40.200 --> 25:46.200 Schulz believes disclosure will happen next year once the rover sends images back to Earth. 25:46.200 --> 25:50.200 It's something he says could have happened sooner, but didn't because of religious beliefs. 25:50.200 --> 25:54.200 Many people allow their beliefs to dominate regardless of the facts. 25:54.200 --> 25:56.200 And it's not a stab at religion. 25:56.200 --> 25:58.200 This is just a presentation of the facts. 25:58.200 --> 26:01.200 People who have faith find a way to live with the facts. 26:01.200 --> 26:03.200 You're dealing with science. 26:03.200 --> 26:04.200 That's absolutely correct. 26:04.200 --> 26:06.200 You have to work with science and facts. 26:06.200 --> 26:08.200 Is there life on Mars right now? 26:08.200 --> 26:12.200 I do believe so because nothing we know of would have sterilized the entire planet. 26:12.200 --> 26:17.200 Funguses, spores, bacteria could very easily still be in the soil today. 26:17.200 --> 26:22.200 Well, despite his research, Schulz says he's not the person who first discovered life on Mars. 26:23.200 --> 26:30.200 He said that honor belongs to Viking mission scientist and current Arizona State University professor Dr. Gary Levin. 26:30.200 --> 26:37.200 Levin believes he discovered microbial life from the soil samples taken from the two Viking missions from the 1970s. 26:37.200 --> 26:41.200 But NASA has never embraced those findings. 26:41.200 --> 26:43.200 Well, a huge announcement from NASA today. 26:43.200 --> 26:47.200 Their scientists believe water is flowing on the surface of Mars. 26:47.200 --> 26:52.200 And it's believed to be salt water, which could still theoretically sustain life. 26:52.200 --> 26:59.200 NASA says striking new images from the mountains of Mars may be their best evidence yet of flowing liquid water. 26:59.200 --> 27:03.200 Those images appear to show some sort of water flow on the Mars surface. 27:03.200 --> 27:10.200 Now, if true, NASA says this has profound implications in the search for extraterrestrial life. 27:10.200 --> 27:14.200 But today's NASA announcement is nothing new for a Winsboro man. 27:14.200 --> 27:17.200 Charles Schulz has been studying the so-called red planet for years. 27:17.200 --> 27:23.200 And back in April, he told News 19 viewers that there's microbial life and water on Mars. 27:23.200 --> 27:29.200 He believes NASA has known this for years and is releasing the information a little at a time. 27:29.200 --> 27:35.200 Little by little, the information is being given to the public to sort of prepare them for what's to come. 27:35.200 --> 27:39.200 The flow of water and the creation of mud is very common on the planet Mars, even today. 27:39.200 --> 27:41.200 And this mud flow is terraced. 27:42.200 --> 27:45.200 It's in layers, just as you'd expect in any place where the water's flowing. 27:45.200 --> 27:47.200 You can see how it's moved around here. 27:47.200 --> 27:50.200 And this is actually the geyser that probably was the source of that water. 27:50.200 --> 27:54.200 For 45 years, we believed Mars to be as dry as the moon. 27:54.200 --> 27:57.200 And yet constantly we're given information that tells us that's not so. 27:57.200 --> 28:00.200 It's loaded with water and mineral resources. 28:00.200 --> 28:02.200 It's another planet just like the Earth. 28:02.200 --> 28:09.200 If you remember our story back in April, Charles tried to give NASA his findings, and they basically wouldn't listen to him. 28:11.200 --> 28:13.200 So hopefully you're seeing a pattern here. 28:13.200 --> 28:15.200 And the pattern goes on. 28:15.200 --> 28:20.200 Well, other amateur researchers, for example, have spotted other fossils of what appear to be fossils. 28:20.200 --> 28:25.200 The picture on the lower half of this slide here is from Earth. 28:25.200 --> 28:32.200 It's the spine of, let's see, some fossilized dinosaur, fossilized reptilian spine. 28:32.200 --> 28:35.200 And I've got the link at the bottom there. 28:35.200 --> 28:41.200 On the top, that top image is from Curiosity, sorry, from Curiosity rover. 28:41.200 --> 28:45.200 And you can see these pieces, particularly here, they're not like pieces of rock. 28:45.200 --> 28:49.200 You don't get pieces of rock that do that and stand up in the soil. 28:49.200 --> 28:55.200 So there's a lot of evidence of fossilized life forms in the pictures that have come back from Mars. 28:55.200 --> 29:02.200 If indeed, as some people have suggested to me, the rovers are in fact on Mars. 29:02.200 --> 29:06.200 Some people, of course, I talk about the Apollo missions being hosted as well. 29:06.200 --> 29:07.200 I've got other people about that. 29:07.200 --> 29:11.200 Mark Simon, of course, will be giving his take on that later on today. 29:11.200 --> 29:16.200 So if they fake the Apollo missions, which I think they did, to a large extent, not completely, 29:16.200 --> 29:18.200 then why not fake the rovers? 29:18.200 --> 29:19.200 It's a possibility. 29:19.200 --> 29:22.200 I do happen to think they are on Mars, but... 29:22.200 --> 29:25.200 Okay, so that's just some side by side information. 29:27.200 --> 29:31.200 But yeah, I've come back from the live thing, but yeah. 29:31.200 --> 29:36.200 I've got a clip here from some Godless Climber giving me, and this is from the Daily Mail, 29:36.200 --> 29:40.200 21st of September, 2013, one week ago. 29:40.200 --> 29:43.200 The headline is, Life on Mars? Question that. 29:43.200 --> 29:46.200 No, says NASA. No. 29:49.200 --> 29:53.200 Now, people probably know this fellow, very interesting chap. 29:53.200 --> 29:55.200 He's been linked to all kinds of things. 29:55.200 --> 30:00.200 I believe he had certain court knowledge that most of us are not party to. 30:00.200 --> 30:04.200 He spoke out in 2001 when the Mars Global Surveyor images came out. 30:04.200 --> 30:08.200 He was speaking about these images, which he thought were trees. 30:08.200 --> 30:11.200 And again, you can go onto the NASA website, or the USGS website, 30:11.200 --> 30:14.200 and you can download these images for yourself and look at what these are. 30:14.200 --> 30:16.200 These don't look like rocks or dunes. 30:16.200 --> 30:20.200 These seem to have some kind of tree-like or fungal structure or something, 30:20.200 --> 30:22.200 of course, on a much larger scale. 30:22.200 --> 30:26.200 These look like banyan trees, according to Arthur C. Clarke. 30:26.200 --> 30:31.200 But James Rice, a planetary geologist at Arizona State University said, 30:31.200 --> 30:36.200 Most of the images in question that I looked at are of dunes in the polar regions. 30:36.200 --> 30:38.200 He says, most of the images. 30:38.200 --> 30:41.200 They are beginning to defrost as winter draws to a close. 30:41.200 --> 30:44.200 The sand is composing the dunes is dark and the frost is bright, 30:44.200 --> 30:47.200 thereby causing the spotted pattern as the dune defrosts. 30:47.200 --> 30:52.200 This is not vegetation, but rather the natural defrosting of dunes and sand sheets. 30:52.200 --> 30:56.200 Oh, really? Well, thank you for that very expert explanation. 30:56.200 --> 31:00.200 Of course, we plugs have to bow to your superior mothers. 31:01.200 --> 31:04.200 Now then, another interesting image that I came across on the website, 31:04.200 --> 31:06.200 and I've got a comparison for you now. 31:06.200 --> 31:09.200 This is from the Mars Express probe from the high-rise, 31:09.200 --> 31:12.200 not the high-rise, perhaps on the Mars Constitutum, is that? 31:12.200 --> 31:16.200 This is from the high-resolution camera on the Mars Express probe, 31:16.200 --> 31:18.200 that went to be in 2003. 31:18.200 --> 31:23.200 And on the right, we have Calgoole Goldmine in Australia. 31:23.200 --> 31:26.200 Anyone seen any Stenitis today at all? 31:26.200 --> 31:28.200 Or is it just me? 31:28.200 --> 31:31.200 Another interesting structure I came across, quite a few years ago, 31:31.200 --> 31:34.200 almost ten years ago, I came across this on the website, 31:34.200 --> 31:38.200 and verified that, yes indeed, this does appear in our pictures. 31:38.200 --> 31:42.200 Excuse me, it's three miles long from, as I've marked there, 31:42.200 --> 31:45.200 three miles, straight line. 31:45.200 --> 31:47.200 What is it? I don't know what it is. 31:47.200 --> 31:50.200 Geologists won't talk about this. 31:50.200 --> 31:53.200 Now, this is my favorite. 31:53.200 --> 31:57.200 This is from M1501228, a Mars Global Subair image, 31:57.200 --> 32:00.200 which I think was taken in 1998. 32:00.200 --> 32:03.200 I measured the size of it, it's within the crater. 32:03.200 --> 32:07.200 You can see this tube going up the top there. 32:07.200 --> 32:10.200 I think it's a G-d, as you've heard me, 32:10.200 --> 32:12.200 but I don't know anything, I'm just black, 32:12.200 --> 32:14.200 so you're not allowed to agree, 32:14.200 --> 32:17.200 because I don't have a degree in planetary science. 32:17.200 --> 32:19.200 And somebody on there, I don't know, 32:19.200 --> 32:23.200 posted a link to this comparison, which looks quite interesting. 32:23.200 --> 32:27.200 This is the geodesic element, the murder station at the South Pole, 32:27.200 --> 32:30.200 and then we've got the, there we are. 32:30.200 --> 32:32.200 No one will discuss the image. 32:32.200 --> 32:34.200 A lot of people talk about Cyanian stuff, 32:34.200 --> 32:36.200 more geometric ratio, so to speak. 32:36.200 --> 32:38.200 Hardly anybody talks about this. 32:38.200 --> 32:41.200 I think I discovered it on Jason Martell's website. 32:41.200 --> 32:44.200 And a little bit further down, we have this structure. 32:44.200 --> 32:47.200 This is, well, I don't know if you've seen it, 32:47.200 --> 32:49.200 but this is the structure. 32:49.200 --> 32:52.200 This is, well, that length there is 1.3 miles. 32:52.200 --> 32:54.200 What the hell are these ribs here? 32:54.200 --> 32:55.200 What the hell is this? 32:55.200 --> 32:57.200 Natural rock formation? 32:57.200 --> 32:59.200 Really? How's it formed? 32:59.200 --> 33:01.200 Could be natural, I don't know. 33:01.200 --> 33:03.200 But it's sure as hell weird. 33:03.200 --> 33:06.200 Now, that whole area where there's two objects are, 33:06.200 --> 33:09.200 the dome and the funny spiny object, 33:09.200 --> 33:12.200 whatever it is in the caterpillar, as I've come to call it, 33:12.200 --> 33:14.200 it's in the whole region, one strip, it's hollow, 33:14.200 --> 33:16.200 and it's a giant video. 34:44.200 --> 35:12.200 MUSIC 35:12.200 --> 35:15.200 So that data is all publicly available for you to explore. 35:15.200 --> 35:16.200 Most of it is. 35:16.200 --> 35:19.200 Now, I learned that what the Mars Global Survey had, 35:19.200 --> 35:21.200 they had what's called a radar altimeter, 35:21.200 --> 35:26.200 MOA, Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter and Range Rover, I guess. 35:26.200 --> 35:29.200 And if you go and try and access the altitude data 35:29.200 --> 35:32.200 for that whole strip, you can't access it. 35:32.200 --> 35:34.200 It's the only strip that's not publicly available 35:34.200 --> 35:36.200 to the peer review department. 35:36.200 --> 35:39.200 You can see all those images on two different websites. 35:40.200 --> 35:46.200 I've got details about that image in an article I wrote in 2005. 35:46.200 --> 35:48.200 I've got a book that's written in here. 35:48.200 --> 35:50.200 It's on my website, so all that information is there 35:50.200 --> 35:52.200 for you to go and explore in your own time. 35:52.200 --> 35:55.200 But yes, I discovered that accident again. 35:55.200 --> 35:57.200 So I didn't follow this very closely. 35:57.200 --> 36:00.200 I tend not to watch the news because I hate it. 36:00.200 --> 36:02.200 So I miss out when the new discoveries come out, 36:02.200 --> 36:04.200 and I tend to find it a bit late. 36:04.200 --> 36:07.200 So I found that this dome, or whatever it is, 36:07.200 --> 36:10.200 was re-imaged in 2008 with another new probe 36:10.200 --> 36:13.200 with Marge Econos and Thorbetton in the high-rise camera. 36:13.200 --> 36:16.200 And you could find this image at that time 36:16.200 --> 36:19.200 on the University of Arizona website. 36:19.200 --> 36:22.200 So, you know, it's all publicly available. 36:22.200 --> 36:26.200 And I use this image here as my sky avatar, 36:26.200 --> 36:30.200 you know, my various avatars and forums I've posted on this, 36:30.200 --> 36:31.200 but like that. 36:31.200 --> 36:33.200 Notice the description. 36:33.200 --> 36:36.200 This is the University of Arizona's description here. 36:36.200 --> 36:37.200 Sorry. 36:37.200 --> 36:42.200 Created with textured mound in central Assyria-Plamydia. 36:42.200 --> 36:44.200 Well, that's a little bit of a description, 36:44.200 --> 36:46.200 but not very exciting. 36:46.200 --> 36:48.200 And so, yes, I was telling my brother about this 36:48.200 --> 36:49.200 because he looked at it. 36:49.200 --> 36:50.200 I was filming it on Skype. 36:50.200 --> 36:52.200 I said, Andre, what's this image you've got on Skype? 36:52.200 --> 36:53.200 What the hell is it? 36:53.200 --> 36:54.200 He said, oh, that's on Mars. 36:54.200 --> 36:55.200 That's going on, going on. 36:55.200 --> 36:58.200 I gave him the link to this website. 36:58.200 --> 37:01.200 And this is what I'd previously seen when I looked at it. 37:01.200 --> 37:04.200 Then, in 2009, I think, more than 2010, 37:04.200 --> 37:07.200 I was filming my brother. 37:07.200 --> 37:08.200 I kept giving him the link. 37:08.200 --> 37:13.200 And notice, look, it says, 37:13.200 --> 37:15.200 Created with textured mound. 37:15.200 --> 37:17.200 The caption is exactly the same. 37:17.200 --> 37:18.200 What? 37:18.200 --> 37:19.200 Where? 37:19.200 --> 37:20.200 Where's the Created with textured mound? 37:20.200 --> 37:21.200 Sorry. 37:21.200 --> 37:23.200 Now, if you go to the links down here, 37:23.200 --> 37:24.200 sure enough, you could download that image, 37:24.200 --> 37:26.200 the bluecast that I showed you. 37:26.200 --> 37:30.200 Yeah, that image is there, but it's not on the headline. 37:30.200 --> 37:32.200 Anyone say cover up? 37:32.200 --> 37:34.200 No, no, no, it's not that. 37:34.200 --> 37:36.200 We decided it wasn't very interesting after all. 37:36.200 --> 37:37.200 It's very long. 37:37.200 --> 37:38.200 It's a very long ice. 37:38.200 --> 37:39.200 It is, isn't it? 37:39.200 --> 37:42.200 Now, so this is the high resolution version again, 37:42.200 --> 37:44.200 close up, and you can see that it looks like it's, 37:44.200 --> 37:46.200 you know, admittedly, when you look close to it, 37:46.200 --> 37:49.200 it looks less like a geodesic dome. 37:49.200 --> 37:51.200 It looks like you've got some crystalline formation 37:51.200 --> 37:53.200 or something, because these are about seven times 37:53.200 --> 37:55.200 the resolution of the previous one. 37:55.200 --> 37:57.200 But you can still see this linear sort of tube effect 37:57.200 --> 37:59.200 going up into the crater. 37:59.200 --> 38:01.200 It's still circuiting, it's slap bang in the middle of the crater. 38:01.200 --> 38:03.200 None of that has changed. 38:03.200 --> 38:05.200 That to me is one of the most extraordinary 38:05.200 --> 38:07.200 and arresting images in the solar system, 38:07.200 --> 38:09.200 and I've never heard anyone talking about it. 38:09.200 --> 38:13.200 Yet it is publicly available, if you go and look for it. 38:13.200 --> 38:15.200 Just another close up. 38:15.200 --> 38:18.200 And this is this caterpillar object again, 38:18.200 --> 38:20.200 which again, you can just see more detail. 38:20.200 --> 38:22.200 They've got these regularly spaced plates. 38:22.200 --> 38:24.200 No explanation, I've not found any official explanation 38:24.200 --> 38:27.200 as to what this is. 38:27.200 --> 38:29.200 Close up again. 38:29.200 --> 38:31.200 Various structures there, but I don't know what they are. 38:31.200 --> 38:33.200 That's all on that image strip. 38:33.200 --> 38:35.200 Q. Are they trying to put you down to win that low share on that? 38:35.200 --> 38:37.200 Yeah, I think they'll generally say it's wind erosion 38:37.200 --> 38:39.200 or possibly water erosion, 38:39.200 --> 38:43.200 but they'll just hand-wave it away, you know, in what they do. 38:43.200 --> 38:45.200 So what do scientists say about some of these? 38:45.200 --> 38:47.200 Well, I haven't sent the new images to geologists, 38:47.200 --> 38:50.200 but back in 2004 when I discovered this one on the left here 38:50.200 --> 38:52.200 and this one on the right, 38:52.200 --> 38:55.200 I sent those images, just those two little images, 38:55.200 --> 38:57.200 without any reference, no description. 38:57.200 --> 39:00.200 I sent them to 42 geologists picked at random 39:00.200 --> 39:02.200 from university websites, emailed them. 39:02.200 --> 39:05.200 I said, you know, what are they? 39:05.200 --> 39:07.200 And they kept telling me it was longitudinal dunes 39:07.200 --> 39:09.200 and all kinds of things. 39:09.200 --> 39:11.200 They wouldn't tell me how it had formed. 39:11.200 --> 39:13.200 No one could say how those things had formed. 39:13.200 --> 39:16.200 But what interested me was I sent these two images, 39:16.200 --> 39:19.200 and I apologize for an unsolicited email and so on 39:19.200 --> 39:21.200 because people get a lot of spam. 39:21.200 --> 39:24.200 And then one guy, I forget which university was it, 39:24.200 --> 39:27.200 an associate professor of geology, he responded to me and said, 39:27.200 --> 39:29.200 initially he asked where the images were from, 39:29.200 --> 39:31.200 and I told him, you know, I gave him the links 39:31.200 --> 39:35.200 to the USGS website, USGS, US Geological Survey. 39:35.200 --> 39:37.200 I gave him the links to that site. No other. 39:37.200 --> 39:41.200 He responded, these two images from the surface of Mars 39:41.200 --> 39:43.200 are certainly puzzling and have been floating 39:43.200 --> 39:45.200 around UFO web pages for some time. 39:45.200 --> 39:46.200 Huh? 39:46.200 --> 39:49.200 I am sorry, but I do not believe in big conspiracy theories 39:49.200 --> 39:51.200 and that the government is trying to hide something from us 39:51.200 --> 39:54.200 concerning Mars or any other planet. 39:54.200 --> 39:56.200 That wasn't what I asked him. 39:56.200 --> 39:58.200 That wasn't what I asked him, and I sent him links 39:58.200 --> 40:01.200 to the USGS website, not to any UFO website. 40:01.200 --> 40:03.200 I said, I don't care what's on those. 40:03.200 --> 40:06.200 These are government-funded websites. 40:06.200 --> 40:09.200 This is the attitude you get in the academic community. 40:09.200 --> 40:15.200 It's career suicide to discuss these with any real honesty. 40:15.200 --> 40:17.200 Any re-arbitration? 40:17.200 --> 40:18.200 Yeah, exactly. 40:18.200 --> 40:20.200 Now, I'll just make a quick reference, 40:20.200 --> 40:23.200 hopefully to link it to Marcus Allen's presentation. 40:23.200 --> 40:25.200 I did a bit of Photoshopping here, 40:25.200 --> 40:27.200 because NASA does this all the time, 40:27.200 --> 40:30.200 as we can find out for ourselves if you look long enough. 40:30.200 --> 40:33.200 Now, we've got this famous story about Alan Shepard 40:33.200 --> 40:37.200 playing golf on the moon, and it went for miles and miles 40:37.200 --> 40:39.200 when he hit it, and you can look up this story. 40:39.200 --> 40:42.200 Apollo 14 it was. 40:42.200 --> 40:44.200 You know, another man not to walk on the moon. 40:44.200 --> 40:47.200 Well, I'm wondering if that's where it ended up. 40:47.200 --> 40:51.200 And I do just have to thank Neil Austin for this joke. 40:51.200 --> 40:54.200 I reworked the image, but I got this from Neil Austin. 40:54.200 --> 40:56.200 Anyway, there you go. 40:56.200 --> 41:00.200 But the Freemasons, they do love their golf, don't they? 41:00.200 --> 41:03.200 Now, this, and this is David Percy's. 41:03.200 --> 41:05.200 I think it was David Percy that discovered this. 41:05.200 --> 41:07.200 I just sort of redid the image. I haven't discovered this. 41:07.200 --> 41:10.200 I don't claim any credit for this whatsoever. 41:10.200 --> 41:14.200 To me, David Percy's written a book about this called Two-Thirds. 41:14.200 --> 41:16.200 I haven't read it. I haven't read into this, 41:16.200 --> 41:19.200 but I'm just purely showing you this image, right, 41:19.200 --> 41:21.200 and how I did it. 41:21.200 --> 41:23.200 I got an image of Cydonia, which was from Viking. 41:23.200 --> 41:26.200 I took that, I think, off all this website, 41:26.200 --> 41:29.200 which is in turn taken off a NASA website. 41:29.200 --> 41:32.200 I got an image from Google Maps, saved it onto my computer. 41:32.200 --> 41:35.200 I resized it, such that it overlapped. 41:35.200 --> 41:40.200 And, well, I think that image speaks for itself, doesn't it? 41:40.200 --> 41:42.200 I've shown this image before. 41:42.200 --> 41:44.200 I showed it last year or the year before. 41:44.200 --> 41:48.200 It's such a... I mean, we've got three significant geological features 41:48.200 --> 41:50.200 in precise correspondence. 41:50.200 --> 41:55.200 We've got, like, some type of mound here corresponding here, 41:55.200 --> 41:58.200 and we've got, obviously, the stone circle at Avery 41:58.200 --> 42:00.200 and Silbury Hill here. 42:00.200 --> 42:02.200 The scale is 14 to 1. 42:02.200 --> 42:05.200 What is one mile on the Earth is 14 miles on Mars. 42:05.200 --> 42:08.200 I contend that there is a story here that somebody knows about 42:08.200 --> 42:10.200 that we're not being told. 42:10.200 --> 42:13.200 I don't know what that story is, but there is a story. 42:13.200 --> 42:16.200 Right, two-thirds. It's in the book, yeah. 42:16.200 --> 42:18.200 I did mention the book. 42:18.200 --> 42:20.200 Right, thank you. 42:20.200 --> 42:24.200 Oh, yeah, and so this is also a bit of humor, really, 42:24.200 --> 42:27.200 because I do get hits, as Sir Charles Shortz was saying, 42:27.200 --> 42:31.200 I get hits on my website from, you know, NASA and so forth. 42:31.200 --> 42:35.200 And they actually came to my website, 42:35.200 --> 42:38.200 and this was a few years ago, 2008, 42:38.200 --> 42:42.200 and they Googled for News Life on Mars. 42:42.200 --> 42:44.200 And they ended up on my website, 42:44.200 --> 42:46.200 somebody from Borough, Derbyshire, 42:46.200 --> 42:49.200 from NASA looking at my website for news about life on Mars. 42:49.200 --> 42:51.200 Is that funny or what? 42:51.200 --> 42:54.200 And they did it again. 42:54.200 --> 42:57.200 This is, Marshall Space Flight Center came to my website, 42:57.200 --> 43:02.200 and they clicked on that image of the T from my website. 43:02.200 --> 43:04.200 It's crazy stuff. 43:04.200 --> 43:07.200 I mean, a bit like Charles Shortz was saying in his fossil video, 43:07.200 --> 43:09.200 a lot of his hits were from NASA. 43:09.200 --> 43:11.200 Okay, and there's other anomalies as well. 43:11.200 --> 43:14.200 This is another one from Opportunity, I think, this image. 43:14.200 --> 43:16.200 And this is a panorama, 43:16.200 --> 43:18.200 which again, I've got the image reference at the bottom. 43:18.200 --> 43:20.200 But nice, you know, it's a nice black and white view, 43:20.200 --> 43:22.200 just what you want with all these expensive imaging systems. 43:22.200 --> 43:24.200 Still black and white, you know. 43:24.200 --> 43:27.200 You can just make do with that because of your plebs. 43:27.200 --> 43:29.200 What the hell is this? 43:32.200 --> 43:35.200 That is in a NASA image. 43:35.200 --> 43:37.200 You can download that. 43:37.200 --> 43:39.200 Yep. 43:39.200 --> 43:42.200 And again, we've done the water and mud. 43:44.200 --> 43:46.200 I've done the water before, which was reported. 43:46.200 --> 43:49.200 Scientists are intrigued by the marks on Spirits Airbags left on the surface. 43:49.200 --> 43:51.200 This is BBC News website. 43:51.200 --> 43:53.200 The soil shows an unusual caziness, 43:53.200 --> 43:56.200 almost as if the soil grains were stuck together like mud. 43:56.200 --> 43:59.200 The way in which the surface is responded is bizarre. 43:59.200 --> 44:01.200 It looks like mud, but it can't be mud. 44:01.200 --> 44:03.200 But it can't be mud. 44:04.200 --> 44:06.200 Oh, look! 44:06.200 --> 44:09.200 They reported water on Mars in 1979. 44:09.200 --> 44:12.200 That's 34 years ago. 44:12.200 --> 44:15.200 It was reported from the Viking lander. 44:15.200 --> 44:17.200 This is their capture. 44:17.200 --> 44:19.200 It's still on their website. It's still there. 44:19.200 --> 44:22.200 This colour image shows a thin layer of water-eye frost on Mars. 44:22.200 --> 44:24.200 That's their image. 44:24.200 --> 44:27.200 And of course, that's the corrected image from Holger Isenberg. 44:27.200 --> 44:29.200 That's what it should look like. 44:29.200 --> 44:31.200 Same, we've done all this. 44:31.200 --> 44:33.200 This is in the Charles Shultz video. 44:33.200 --> 44:36.200 More evidence from his pictures that he's picked up. 44:36.200 --> 44:38.200 Oh, look! 44:38.200 --> 44:41.200 Mars water discovered again. 44:41.200 --> 44:43.200 This was 7th of September. 44:43.200 --> 44:45.200 I discovered this. Somebody posted it on my Facebook yesterday, 44:45.200 --> 44:47.200 so I bunged it in here. 44:47.200 --> 44:49.200 CBS. 44:49.200 --> 44:51.200 Greatest title for a news service. CBS. 44:51.200 --> 44:54.200 Greatest title for a TV news service, eh? 44:54.200 --> 44:56.200 CBS. Get it? 44:56.200 --> 44:58.200 We don't use BS here. 44:58.200 --> 45:00.200 You know the other word, but you'll get it. 45:00.200 --> 45:02.200 So, quick summary for evidence of life on Mars. 45:02.200 --> 45:04.200 There are non-natural structures on Mars. 45:04.200 --> 45:06.200 Surface-sized water was photographed... 45:06.200 --> 45:08.200 Well, this is how old this slide is. 45:08.200 --> 45:10.200 ...34 years ago. 45:10.200 --> 45:13.200 In some detail, Gilbert Levin, his experiment worked. 45:13.200 --> 45:16.200 Biomarker gases have been discovered more than once. 45:16.200 --> 45:18.200 Et cetera, et cetera. 45:18.200 --> 45:21.200 Recent rover pictures, so soil moisture. 45:21.200 --> 45:25.200 Yeah, and they don't really discuss these discoveries in any great detail. 45:25.200 --> 45:27.200 They'll announce it and then debunk it. 45:27.200 --> 45:29.200 So that it's a control... 45:29.200 --> 45:32.200 Perception management has been heavily in operation. 45:32.200 --> 45:35.200 So we're going to move away from Mars now, but not far, 45:35.200 --> 45:37.200 to the moon Phobos, 45:37.200 --> 45:40.200 where there's been some interesting information about that, 45:40.200 --> 45:43.200 and the con man Buzz Aldrin has recently got involved in that as well. 45:45.200 --> 45:48.200 So Phobos, what is it, for those that are not familiar? 45:48.200 --> 45:51.200 Phobos, the unit and larger of Mars' two moons. 45:51.200 --> 45:54.200 It was discovered telescopically with its companion moon, 45:54.200 --> 45:58.200 Deimos, by the American astronomer Asaph Hall in 1877. 45:58.200 --> 46:00.200 So it's really not that long ago, 46:00.200 --> 46:02.200 considering how long ago some of the moons of Saturn 46:02.200 --> 46:06.200 were discovered, like in the 18th century rather than the 19th. 46:06.200 --> 46:11.200 It's roughly a little body, 16.5 miles across at its widest point, 46:11.200 --> 46:15.200 and it revolves around Mars every 7 hours, 39 minutes, 46:15.200 --> 46:18.200 and it's only 9,000 kilometres away. 46:18.200 --> 46:23.200 It's very unusual for a satellite to be that close at that distance. 46:23.200 --> 46:27.200 And what are these strange lines? Richard Hoagland has talked about these. 46:27.200 --> 46:30.200 I've stolen a few more of his pictures later on, 46:30.200 --> 46:32.200 which I'll mention as well. 46:32.200 --> 46:34.200 These intersect at right angles. 46:34.200 --> 46:37.200 If you get a close-up of these, I haven't really enlarged it on this side, 46:37.200 --> 46:40.200 and you've also got these strange lines on Vesta, but that's a lot bigger. 46:40.200 --> 46:43.200 This is like 526 kilometres, and that's only 26, 46:43.200 --> 46:46.200 so this is like 10 times bigger, 20 times bigger. 46:46.200 --> 46:51.200 But these lines are very strange, they're quite linear in nature, 46:52.200 --> 46:57.200 and these were only discovered from one of the probes a few years ago. 46:57.200 --> 47:00.200 But it was said many years ago, in the 60s, 47:00.200 --> 47:04.200 this Russian mathematician Slavsky calculated the orbital motion 47:04.200 --> 47:07.200 of Martian satellite Phobos and came to the jaw-dropping conclusion 47:07.200 --> 47:11.200 that the moon is artificial, hollow, and basically a titanic spaceship. 47:11.200 --> 47:14.200 He said that in 1963. 47:14.200 --> 47:17.200 This picture on the right is a little bit faint, 47:17.200 --> 47:21.200 but this is from the Curiosity Rover, this is a recent picture. 47:21.200 --> 47:24.200 This is what Phobos looks like from the surface, 47:24.200 --> 47:28.200 and they recently showed an eclipse as well taken from Opportunity. 47:28.200 --> 47:31.200 So I won't read all of that out. 47:31.200 --> 47:34.200 But a couple of people, there's another guy, let's see. 47:34.200 --> 47:37.200 Raymond H. Wilson, chief of applied mathematics at NASA, 47:37.200 --> 47:40.200 joined Slavsky and Dr. Singer in their Martian conclusions. 47:40.200 --> 47:44.200 Phobos might be a colossal base orbiting Mars, and that was in the 60s. 47:45.200 --> 47:48.200 Well, fast forward a little bit, 47:48.200 --> 47:53.200 and I was able to download this letter to the geophysical research letters, 47:53.200 --> 47:59.200 volume 37, L09202, 7th of May 2010, so we're going back about three years now. 47:59.200 --> 48:04.200 Precise mass determination and the nature of Phobos by T. P. Andert, 48:04.200 --> 48:07.200 P. Rose Blatt and those other guys. 48:07.200 --> 48:09.200 We conclude, this is in their letter, 48:09.200 --> 48:15.200 and the material of Phobos likely contains large voids, large empty spaces. 48:15.200 --> 48:20.200 When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, 48:20.200 --> 48:25.200 these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid. 48:25.200 --> 48:28.200 It ain't a captured asteroid is what they're saying, 48:28.200 --> 48:32.200 because the measurements of the density and so forth don't support that. 48:32.200 --> 48:35.200 Why is it so close? Why is it nearly on the equator? 48:35.200 --> 48:39.200 Well, I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. 48:39.200 --> 48:42.200 But again, it gets more interesting. 48:42.200 --> 48:47.200 Buzz Aldrin, Stoke's The Mystery of the Monolith on Mars. 49:05.200 --> 49:08.200 We can help. We can join with. 49:08.200 --> 49:13.200 Together we can explore the moon and develop the moon. 49:13.200 --> 49:18.200 We should go boldly where man has not gone before. 49:18.200 --> 49:23.200 Fly by the comets, visit asteroids, visit the moon of Mars. 49:23.200 --> 49:30.200 There's a monolith there, a very unusual structure on this little potato-shaped object 49:31.200 --> 49:36.200 that goes around Mars once in seven hours. 49:36.200 --> 49:40.200 When people find out about that, they're going to say, who put that there? 49:40.200 --> 49:47.200 Well, the universe put it there. If you choose, God put it there. 49:47.200 --> 49:53.200 What on earth is Buzz Aldrin on about? Why is he talking about this Phobos on Monolith? 49:53.200 --> 49:56.200 This is the guy that allegedly was the second man on the moon. 49:57.200 --> 50:01.200 Why would he put that out on the National Cable News a few years ago? 50:01.200 --> 50:06.200 In fact, when you read this Daily Mail story, which is very deeply embedded in the perception management 50:06.200 --> 50:12.200 operations going on with all these topics, which we like to explore around the UFO alien issue and 9-11 and stuff, 50:12.200 --> 50:16.200 the Daily Mail is right at the forefront of managing the psychological operation. 50:16.200 --> 50:19.200 I'll tell you that much, as it is my conclusion anyway. 50:19.200 --> 50:23.200 They messed up because there are a number of monoliths. 50:23.200 --> 50:26.200 There is one on Phobos and there is also one on the surface of Mars. 50:26.200 --> 50:31.200 What appears to be a monolith, I should be careful what I say, but that's what it appears to be. 50:31.200 --> 50:34.200 And the Daily Mail conflated the two. 50:34.200 --> 50:39.200 Now, the unusual monolith was actually imaged in 1998. 50:39.200 --> 50:44.200 So I think it was, when was this? 2009. 50:44.200 --> 50:47.200 So it's 11 years later they decided to cover it. 50:47.200 --> 50:51.200 Excuse me, why 11 years later is it brought up? 50:55.200 --> 51:01.200 And yeah, this one is on the surface, I've found where that one is, and this one is on Phobos. 51:01.200 --> 51:03.200 And I've got another little flyover video. 51:03.200 --> 51:07.200 I'm not sure about this particular one, there seems to be lots of monoliths that I've found. 51:07.200 --> 51:08.200 I'll show you this little video. 51:08.200 --> 51:11.200 So I decided to make a flyover, because again you can download an image strip, 51:11.200 --> 51:14.200 I made a one minute video here, you'll see this. 52:17.200 --> 52:43.200 And what you found there is that the camera is like at a certain angle, 52:43.200 --> 52:49.200 so the image gets sort of skewed out depending on where the probe is actually in relation to the moon. 52:49.200 --> 52:51.200 So it does get slightly distorted. 52:51.200 --> 52:55.200 So some of the images, you can't definitely say what the shape of the object is, 52:55.200 --> 52:58.200 because it has been distorted. 52:58.200 --> 53:04.200 But there does appear to be some very strange object sticking up on the surface of Phobos. 53:04.200 --> 53:08.200 Is it some kind of, I don't know, some type of ventilation shafts, 53:08.200 --> 53:12.200 a periscope of some kind, a sensor, were those little things all sensors? 53:12.200 --> 53:17.200 So, you know, taking the view that this is actually an artificial spaceship of some kind. 53:17.200 --> 53:22.200 But this is from the 2008 image from HiRISE. 53:22.200 --> 53:26.200 Not HiRISE, I keep saying HiRISE, from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter image. 53:26.200 --> 53:28.200 Yeah, it is HiRISE, sorry. 54:12.200 --> 54:35.200 So I think there's something going on on Phobos. 54:35.200 --> 54:38.200 Now there is a story which I didn't, I've got in the other DVD, 54:38.200 --> 54:45.200 I didn't have time to put it in here, about the Phobos 2 probe from Russia landing and getting shot by a missile. 54:45.200 --> 54:49.200 That story is disinformation, and that's in my other presentation. 54:49.200 --> 54:53.200 I've got to the bottom of that story. 54:53.200 --> 54:56.200 And so this was the monolith that's on the surface. 54:56.200 --> 54:58.200 And again, you can find this in a particular image. 54:58.200 --> 55:02.200 I've got all the image references at the bottom there. 55:02.200 --> 55:05.200 And this was, yeah, again, this was in the Daily Mail article. 55:05.200 --> 55:11.200 It was from HiRISE, again, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, and it was 24th of July 2008. 55:11.200 --> 55:19.200 And if you go into this area with the circle here, in fact, no, I think it's just here where it is, where this cross is actually. 55:19.200 --> 55:20.200 This is what you'll find. 55:20.200 --> 55:25.200 You'll find what looks like a triangle of three objects, you know, it may just be not. 55:25.200 --> 55:30.200 And then this thing here, if you zoom into it, it actually looks like that. 55:30.200 --> 55:32.200 Yeah, it really does look like a monolith. 55:32.200 --> 55:37.200 You know, it's oblong, it's got shadow, very strange. 55:37.200 --> 55:38.200 But why is it there? 55:38.200 --> 55:42.200 You know, there didn't seem to be any of the features near it that seemed to be part of it. 55:42.200 --> 55:46.200 People would just say, oh, it's just a rock that happened to be there and cast that sort of shadow. 55:46.200 --> 55:47.200 I don't know. 55:47.200 --> 55:49.200 I don't know what to make of it, but it's unusual. 55:49.200 --> 55:55.200 Yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe it was, but the way that these images are processed, 55:55.200 --> 56:00.200 I think it's sometimes difficult to tell because there is less light out at Mars, a bit less light from the sun. 56:00.200 --> 56:03.200 So, you know, they have to overexpose them more. 56:03.200 --> 56:06.200 And now this was also featured prominently in the article, 56:06.200 --> 56:09.200 which you can see is a different object to the other one. 56:09.200 --> 56:13.200 It looks like a thicker slab or, well, maybe it is the same, but it's just a different angle. 56:13.200 --> 56:14.200 I don't know. 56:14.200 --> 56:16.200 Maybe it's just a different angle where the probe was. 56:16.200 --> 56:18.200 Maybe it is the same. 56:18.200 --> 56:20.200 I forget how large it is. 56:20.200 --> 56:27.200 I think it's something like, I think it's only like probably five meters, something like that. 56:27.200 --> 56:34.200 Well, probably would be, but I couldn't find the source of this image. 56:34.200 --> 56:36.200 This was prominent in the Daily Mail article. 56:36.200 --> 56:38.200 I could find the other one, but not this one. 56:38.200 --> 56:40.200 So if anybody can find that, send it to me. 56:40.200 --> 56:42.200 I couldn't find where this came from. 56:42.200 --> 56:43.200 I couldn't find it. 56:43.200 --> 56:46.200 The image reference wasn't given in the Daily Mail article. 56:46.200 --> 56:52.200 So now we're going to move out further out into the solar system and see what we come across there. 56:52.200 --> 56:55.200 I'm going to just take a stop by Saturn here. 56:55.200 --> 57:01.200 And between 1980 and 1996, the speed of rotation for Saturn's clouds at the equator 57:01.200 --> 57:07.200 reduced by 58.2 percent, and it was described as an unexpected and dramatic change in the weather. 57:07.200 --> 57:10.200 NASA explained this as seasonal changes. 57:10.200 --> 57:16.200 And then these spokes here that we see in the Voyager 1 images from 1981, Voyager 2 images, sorry, 57:16.200 --> 57:22.200 they had disappeared when the Cassini probe got there in 2003. 57:22.200 --> 57:29.200 But then we were shown this, which apparently was first imaged in 1980 or 1981 from Voyager, 57:29.200 --> 57:32.200 but it was never really publicly talked about. 57:32.200 --> 57:38.200 And then we were shown this image of the hexagon, a persistent hexagon in the, 57:38.200 --> 57:43.200 I forget if it's a north or south pole, but it's, Richard Hoagland and others will claim 57:43.200 --> 57:45.200 that this is an imprint of hyperdimensional energy. 57:45.200 --> 57:47.200 I don't know. I don't know what it is. 57:47.200 --> 57:52.200 Scientists now claim to have explained it as some form of standing wave in the currents 57:52.200 --> 57:55.200 within the storm systems there and the winds going round. 57:55.200 --> 57:59.200 Very unusual, though, where this hexagon has appeared. 57:59.200 --> 58:03.200 Some people think it ties in to sacred geometry and the Star of David and so on. 58:03.200 --> 58:07.200 And this is fairly recently, in fact, November 2012. 58:07.200 --> 58:12.200 You can see a high resolution, which means it's still there, still there, this hexagonal structure. 58:12.200 --> 58:15.200 So, I don't know, something going on with that. 58:15.200 --> 58:17.200 And then we have this huge storm as well. 58:17.200 --> 58:20.200 I mean, there seems to be changes going on throughout the solar system. 58:20.200 --> 58:21.200 All the planets are changing. 58:21.200 --> 58:25.200 I mention this because, you know, this idea of global warming and climate change 58:25.200 --> 58:28.200 is just all complete rubbish, you know. 58:28.200 --> 58:30.200 They just don't know what they're talking about, 58:30.200 --> 58:32.200 because all these climatologists, they're not astronomers, 58:32.200 --> 58:34.200 so they don't look at this sort of data. 58:34.200 --> 58:37.200 So they don't see these patterns happening across the planets. 58:37.200 --> 58:40.200 And for other reasons as well, of course, to do with 9-11, 58:40.200 --> 58:42.200 if you've heard me talk about that. 58:43.200 --> 58:46.200 Yeah, and then this is proof that they do airbrush images. 58:46.200 --> 58:48.200 They do airbrush images. 58:48.200 --> 58:52.200 And this was picked up in a story a couple of years ago now. 58:52.200 --> 58:53.200 I forgot the date there. 58:53.200 --> 58:56.200 I think it was 2009 or 2010. 58:56.200 --> 58:58.200 This was a Cassini image. 58:58.200 --> 59:01.200 And when somebody tweaked up the contrast to see what was, 59:01.200 --> 59:04.200 they claimed that they were hiding a spaceship in the NASA image, 59:04.200 --> 59:08.200 you know, in this, sorry, in this, I keep pressing the wrong buttons, 59:08.200 --> 59:09.200 in this area here. 59:11.200 --> 59:13.200 Emilia Lacawala is just a prick. 59:13.200 --> 59:18.200 I mean, she's worked for the Planetary Society. 59:18.200 --> 59:21.200 Yeah, and I'm a really frequent person at the Planetary Society. 59:21.200 --> 59:25.200 So when Arthur C. Clarke went public about the computer piglars, 59:25.200 --> 59:27.200 he said to the Planetary Society, 59:27.200 --> 59:29.200 fast in the big conference, because one of the, 59:29.200 --> 59:31.200 what do you think about Arthur C. Clarke? 59:31.200 --> 59:33.200 I always just send him an email about that. 59:33.200 --> 59:36.200 Like, don't mention him even though he's a board member. 59:36.200 --> 59:39.200 But the excuse they gave for airbrushing this is that 59:39.200 --> 59:41.200 they took a red, green and blue image, 59:41.200 --> 59:43.200 and in the time they took each of those frames, 59:43.200 --> 59:46.200 the Dione in the foreground had moved 59:46.200 --> 59:48.200 because the spacecraft was travelling so fast. 59:48.200 --> 59:54.200 And so they had to edit it to, you know, get it back to what they wanted. 59:54.200 --> 59:56.200 Ten minutes. 59:56.200 --> 59:57.200 Okay. 59:57.200 --> 01:00:00.200 Okay, so we're going to go to our apptus now. 01:00:00.200 --> 01:00:04.200 This is mostly from Richard Hogan's website, if not all of it, 01:00:04.200 --> 01:00:05.200 except for a little video I made, 01:00:05.200 --> 01:00:07.200 but I won't have time to play the video, I don't think. 01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:10.200 So it's about ten minutes, a video of Arthur C. Clarke. 01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:20.200 Iapetus was discovered in 1671 by Giovanni Domenico at Cassini, 01:00:20.200 --> 01:00:24.200 and he observed Iapetus over 740 million miles distant 01:00:24.200 --> 01:00:26.200 using a 17th century refracting telescope, 01:00:26.200 --> 01:00:29.200 whose main lens was only two inches in diameter, 01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:33.200 so vastly inferior to a pair of cheap eBay binoculars, I'm sure. 01:00:33.200 --> 01:00:36.200 He discovered it all those years ago, 01:00:36.200 --> 01:00:39.200 which is why it's unusual that Phobos was discovered much later, 01:00:39.200 --> 01:00:43.200 you know, let's see, 100 years later, over 100 years later. 01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:45.200 When Cassini discovered Iapetus, 01:00:45.200 --> 01:00:48.200 over a period of time, observed Iapetus, 01:00:48.200 --> 01:00:51.200 he was puzzled that every 40 days or so it seemed to disappear from view, 01:00:51.200 --> 01:00:54.200 then reappear 40 days later. 01:00:54.200 --> 01:00:58.200 And the orbit of Iapetus around Saturn is unusual. 01:00:58.200 --> 01:01:02.200 It's inclined to Saturn's orbit of about 15 degrees, 01:01:02.200 --> 01:01:04.200 and it's thought that the object Iapetus, in this case, 01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:08.200 did not form out of the same clouded material as the rest of the system, 01:01:08.200 --> 01:01:10.200 and so that's what they say. 01:01:12.200 --> 01:01:16.200 But then we got this close-up image in 1981 from Voyager 2, 01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:19.200 still not a lot of detail. 01:01:19.200 --> 01:01:22.200 Dark half is about ten times darker than the light half, 01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:24.200 but they couldn't explain this, 01:01:24.200 --> 01:01:27.200 and it was just a sort of cratered rocky surface. 01:01:28.200 --> 01:01:30.200 It was less spherical than it should be, 01:01:30.200 --> 01:01:33.200 though that's one thing they found in 1981. 01:01:33.200 --> 01:01:37.200 And then in July 2004, Cassini got close, we've got that image, 01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:40.200 and you can see the dark region very clearly here, 01:01:40.200 --> 01:01:45.200 and it actually looks like a giant eye when you look at it in the right orientation, 01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:49.200 and then we have this, December 31st, 2004. 01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:52.200 This image again, you can download this image, 01:01:52.200 --> 01:01:58.200 and we've got this equatorial wall, it's 800 miles long, 01:01:58.200 --> 01:02:03.200 looks like two halves of these little plastic balls that you use for your dog 01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:06.200 when they have a seam in the middle, it looks like that. 01:02:07.200 --> 01:02:11.200 And it's 12 miles wide, 800 miles long. 01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:13.200 This is on apatous. 01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:16.200 I've never seen a structure like this elsewhere in the solar system. 01:02:16.200 --> 01:02:19.200 No one talks about it. There it is, there's a close-up of it. 01:02:19.200 --> 01:02:23.200 Richard Hogan talked about it in 2004, just after they'd imaged it. 01:02:24.200 --> 01:02:30.200 Yeah, that's 24 miles long there, straight line, 24 miles. 01:02:32.200 --> 01:02:36.200 Hexagonal craters, and there are more hexagonal craters as well, 01:02:36.200 --> 01:02:39.200 or hexagonal-looking craters, these weird craters. 01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:44.200 No, there's no atmosphere, or might have a very tiny amount of an atmosphere, 01:02:44.200 --> 01:02:46.200 almost immeasurable. 01:02:46.200 --> 01:02:49.200 Again, these are Richard Hoagland's graphics that he's drawn up, 01:02:49.200 --> 01:02:51.200 he can download this from Enterprise Mission, 01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:54.200 and what intrigued me is that when Richard Hoagland talked about this 01:02:54.200 --> 01:02:58.200 at the Beyond Knowledge conference in 2009 here in Liverpool, 01:02:58.200 --> 01:03:01.200 he didn't show these images, even though from his own website, 01:03:01.200 --> 01:03:03.200 he did not show these images. 01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:07.200 He showed some zoomed-in portion around here and said there were buildings and structures. 01:03:07.200 --> 01:03:09.200 I couldn't see them. 01:03:11.200 --> 01:03:16.200 And again, there seems to be some type of structure here. 01:03:16.200 --> 01:03:19.200 Are we seeing plates of armour or construction plates of some kind? 01:03:19.200 --> 01:03:21.200 I don't know. I don't know. 01:03:23.200 --> 01:03:27.200 And then he also highlighted that you've got this angular aspect 01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:31.200 to this highly contrasted image here, if you see it. 01:03:32.200 --> 01:03:34.200 It's somewhat difficult to see, but I think it's there. 01:03:34.200 --> 01:03:36.200 I don't think that's an image processing artefact. 01:03:36.200 --> 01:03:39.200 It's not a mosaic image, as far as I'm aware, that one. 01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:43.200 Skip over that one. 01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:48.200 And then they later re-imaged the wall much closer, 01:03:48.200 --> 01:03:50.200 but again, they didn't really say anything about it. 01:03:50.200 --> 01:03:52.200 That was from 2008, I think, that image. 01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:55.200 Is it a geodesic dome of some kind? 01:03:55.200 --> 01:03:57.200 This is a book Minster Fuller with his geodesic dome. 01:03:57.200 --> 01:04:00.200 Is it a structure? I think it could be. 01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:03.200 And that was another Hoagland image. 01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:05.200 Pretty extraordinary. 01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:08.200 You know, did George Lucas know something? 01:04:09.200 --> 01:04:12.200 I know Joseph Farrell writes a bit about this as well, 01:04:12.200 --> 01:04:14.200 but again, I haven't really read his book. 01:04:14.200 --> 01:04:17.200 And I could tell you things about Joseph Farrell, but... 01:04:17.200 --> 01:04:19.200 So imagine standing on Titan. 01:04:19.200 --> 01:04:21.200 This is another thing that Hoagland proposed. 01:04:21.200 --> 01:04:27.200 And he wondered if it was a spiritual retreat for people, 01:04:27.200 --> 01:04:29.200 because I'll just see if I can play a little bit of this video. 01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:32.200 Maybe I can't, but I've got a little video where it shows you, 01:04:32.200 --> 01:04:34.200 if you get one of these desktop planetariums, 01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:36.200 such as Redshift or Starry Night, 01:04:36.200 --> 01:04:40.200 you can actually stand yourself on an apatous and look at Saturn 01:04:40.200 --> 01:04:43.200 and watch the view that you get and accelerate it in time. 01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:45.200 And you get a very... 01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:47.200 I've got this video on my YouTube channel, what I made. 01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:51.200 You get very much a changing picture of moons going at different angles 01:04:51.200 --> 01:04:54.200 and the rings opening and closing on Saturn. 01:04:54.200 --> 01:04:58.200 So an extraordinary sort of image that you would be presented with, 01:04:58.200 --> 01:05:00.200 much as if you were in the Himalayas, you know, in Tibet, 01:05:00.200 --> 01:05:03.200 and that's where you see these incredible vistas and landscape, 01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:05.200 and it inspires you spiritually. 01:05:05.200 --> 01:05:09.200 And I was quite intrigued by this idea that Hoagland was putting forward. 01:05:10.200 --> 01:05:13.200 I'm going to skip over this video because we're running out of time. 01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:16.200 Not too long before he died, a couple of years before he died, 01:05:16.200 --> 01:05:23.200 Arthur C. Clarke, he did an address when Iapetus flew past... 01:05:23.200 --> 01:05:27.200 sorry, Cassini flew past Iapetus in 2007. 01:05:27.200 --> 01:05:29.200 And I've got this video on my YouTube channel. 01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:31.200 Why was he doing this address? 01:05:31.200 --> 01:05:34.200 And he talked about the fact that in the novel 2001, 01:05:34.200 --> 01:05:40.200 this monolith was discovered at Iapetus, and they changed it in the film. 01:05:40.200 --> 01:05:43.200 The monolith in 2001, or not the one on the moon, 01:05:43.200 --> 01:05:47.200 there was one on the moon obviously, but there was another one discovered near to or orbiting Iapetus 01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:50.200 in the book 2001, A Space Odyssey. 01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:54.200 I believe Arthur C. Clarke knows some of this story, I think. 01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:57.200 But I haven't got time to play that. 01:05:57.200 --> 01:06:03.200 So I want to move on and finish off with some of the Soho image anomalies. 01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:09.200 I've got about four or five slides here. 01:06:09.200 --> 01:06:11.200 These are all on my website as well. 01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:14.200 And some of these were sent to me by... 01:06:14.200 --> 01:06:18.200 I'm not going to give his name because he didn't want his name revealed. 01:06:18.200 --> 01:06:25.200 He was in Germany and he sent them to me in 2007. 01:06:25.200 --> 01:06:27.200 So he sent them a good few years ago. 01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:29.200 Now, what is Soho? 01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:33.200 Soho is the solar and heliospheric observatory, as it says there. 01:06:33.200 --> 01:06:36.200 And it was launched, I think, in 1997 or 1998. 01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:42.200 And it's been imaging the sun in X-ray and other infrared emissions and so on, 01:06:42.200 --> 01:06:47.200 and all kinds of emissions, various radio emissions, and creating these images, 01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:55.200 since, well, I think about 13 odd years now, probably longer, 14 years, 15 years. 01:06:55.200 --> 01:07:00.200 And it's in one of the Lagrange points, L1. 01:07:00.200 --> 01:07:06.200 And what that means is the force of gravity on the probe between the Earth and the sun is equal, 01:07:06.200 --> 01:07:08.200 so it's in a stable orbit. 01:07:08.200 --> 01:07:10.200 It's about a million miles from the Earth. 01:07:10.200 --> 01:07:13.200 1.5 million kilometres, about a million miles. 01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:17.200 So this probe is hanging in space about a million miles from the Earth. 01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:19.200 It's not in geosynchronous orbit, anything like that. 01:07:19.200 --> 01:07:24.200 And it's constantly pointing at the sun, 24-7. 01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:33.200 Now, 2003, we had this story featured on the BBC website and in various newspapers and so on. 01:07:33.200 --> 01:07:35.200 Proof of Aliens goes on show. 01:07:35.200 --> 01:07:40.200 Featured in UFO magazine, the magazine that was done by Graham Birtzel, 01:07:40.200 --> 01:07:47.200 Mike Murray of this strange organisation called EuroCETI claimed to have captured these images. 01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:51.200 And then, you know, these got into the website and stuff. 01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:53.200 Mike Murray, a UFO enthusiast, is putting on a show, 01:07:53.200 --> 01:07:57.200 warn people not to contact the centre as it has been inundated with interest. 01:07:57.200 --> 01:08:01.200 These were shown at the Space Centre in Leicester, not too far from where I live now. 01:08:03.200 --> 01:08:11.200 But NASA have their own page about how to make your own UFO from these SOHO images. 01:08:11.200 --> 01:08:17.200 And I did a critique of this because if you read this explanation, it doesn't really hold water. 01:08:17.200 --> 01:08:23.200 And they say on their web page, data can be interpolated using one of a possible zillion methods. 01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:27.200 A zillion. Is that a scientific word on NASA's website? 01:08:27.200 --> 01:08:30.200 A zillion. Well, give us some methods. Tell us some methods. 01:08:30.200 --> 01:08:33.200 You know, edge enhancements, you know, Gaussian filters. 01:08:33.200 --> 01:08:35.200 What is the method? Tell us. 01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:38.200 And they claim to have recreated the image. 01:08:38.200 --> 01:08:40.200 That image is nothing like that. 01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:44.200 It's just ridiculous. 01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:46.200 But we'll go on and see what the image is actually. 01:08:46.200 --> 01:08:52.200 So what intrigued me is that Mr. Murray, this Murray guy, 01:08:52.200 --> 01:08:56.200 he claimed that their images were from two different satellites, not just SOHO. 01:08:56.200 --> 01:09:02.200 He said, we looked at the Lascaux satellite, which is pretty much the same orbit as SOHO, 01:09:02.200 --> 01:09:04.200 but it transmits in black and white. 01:09:04.200 --> 01:09:09.200 The images were in that one as well, the UFO images, the saucer images, whatever you want to call them. 01:09:09.200 --> 01:09:15.200 Actually, Lascaux is not a separate satellite, but one of the 12 instruments aboard SOHO. 01:09:15.200 --> 01:09:19.200 So what he said was clearly wrong. Murray was putting out disinformation. 01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:22.200 If he'd looked at these SOHO images and knew about them, 01:09:22.200 --> 01:09:26.200 he would know that the Lascaux camera is one of the cameras. It's not a separate probe. 01:09:26.200 --> 01:09:32.200 So putting out false facts like that allows him to be immediately ignored and discredited. 01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:35.200 But there are things in these images. 01:09:35.200 --> 01:09:38.200 I'm going to show you some SOHO comets now. 01:09:38.200 --> 01:09:42.200 These are what comets look like on a time-lapse movie of SOHO. 01:09:42.200 --> 01:09:45.200 So you can see what comets look like. There you go. 01:09:45.200 --> 01:09:48.200 Some of them go round the sun and come out the other side. 01:09:48.200 --> 01:09:51.200 Most of them crash into the sun and never to return. 01:09:51.200 --> 01:09:54.200 So that's what comets look like. There's that repeated, that sequence. 01:09:54.200 --> 01:09:58.200 2010, January the 3rd there. 01:09:58.200 --> 01:10:03.200 Here's another one, 2003, February. Slightly lower resolution image here. 01:10:03.200 --> 01:10:06.200 That's a big one. Not crashing into the sun. 01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:09.200 That's what comets look like. 01:10:09.200 --> 01:10:13.200 So, there we go. There's a comet. 01:10:15.200 --> 01:10:18.200 We'll go on. What the hell is this? 01:10:20.200 --> 01:10:23.200 This is from 2005. 01:10:26.200 --> 01:10:29.200 That's a NASA image. What the hell is it? 01:10:29.200 --> 01:10:33.200 Why are these beams coming out of that object, or coming out of the sun and going to the object, 01:10:33.200 --> 01:10:37.200 or coming out of the object and going to the sun? Can't tell. 01:10:37.200 --> 01:10:40.200 NASA claimed that that image is not valid because it hasn't got a date in it. 01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:44.200 Well, I'm sorry, it has. You can go and download it from their archive if you want. 01:10:47.200 --> 01:10:52.200 And this chap in Germany who sent me the... I made that slide, but he sent me these other ones. 01:10:52.200 --> 01:10:57.200 I think he found my website, so I posted this image and some commentary on it. 01:10:57.200 --> 01:11:05.200 And, you know, he was also trying to find out what was causing the effects in that image. 01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:08.200 Didn't get a straight answer, and then he found a load more. 01:11:08.200 --> 01:11:12.200 That's the page again with the debunking information. He critiques that. 01:11:12.200 --> 01:11:14.200 And there's a load more of these objects. 01:11:14.200 --> 01:11:18.200 He's done some image enhancement to bring out the edge enhancement and such, 01:11:18.200 --> 01:11:22.200 to bring out these... are these structured craft? 01:11:23.200 --> 01:11:28.200 Beams flying across. They're not comets. Beams coming out of objects. 01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:30.200 He's got... he sent me a whole... they're all on my website. 01:11:30.200 --> 01:11:34.200 He sent me about... oh, he's got about 200 of these images. Something like that. 01:11:34.200 --> 01:11:38.200 These are all from Seoul. These are NASA's images. Hundreds of them. 01:11:38.200 --> 01:11:40.200 I haven't got time to discuss all of them. 01:11:40.200 --> 01:11:44.200 But then you get these anomalies where it's like two images have been merged together. 01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:47.200 Are they trying to cover something up? I would say yes, they are. 01:11:50.200 --> 01:11:52.200 And more. There's loads of them. 01:11:52.200 --> 01:11:54.200 He's catalogue, and he's got all the dates and times, 01:11:54.200 --> 01:11:57.200 so you can go and look in the archive and find these if you wish to do that. 01:11:57.200 --> 01:12:02.200 What are these images? They're not planets. They're not comets. You know? 01:12:02.200 --> 01:12:07.200 You know? From different dates. Yeah, correct. Correct. 01:12:08.200 --> 01:12:10.200 What are they? 01:12:11.200 --> 01:12:15.200 Hundreds of them, as I say. I'm not going to talk through all of them. Loads of them. 01:12:18.200 --> 01:12:20.200 Hundreds. 01:12:21.200 --> 01:12:24.200 Now then, I'm going to move on to... and finish with this video, 01:12:24.200 --> 01:12:27.200 and I've got one slide after this video. A very short video. 01:12:27.200 --> 01:12:31.200 This was made by Peter Dunne from the helioscope. 01:12:31.200 --> 01:12:33.200 I forget the name of this website. 01:12:33.200 --> 01:12:37.200 There's basically a website where you can make your own time-lapse movies 01:12:37.200 --> 01:12:40.200 from the Soho Image Databank. 01:12:40.200 --> 01:12:45.200 Very easy to use. You put in the start date, the end date, click save, 01:12:45.200 --> 01:12:49.200 and I think it generates a time-lapse video which you can save onto your computer. 01:12:49.200 --> 01:12:53.200 Now, this video, as I say, was done by Peter Dunne. 01:12:53.200 --> 01:12:56.200 He discovered when making his time-lapse video 01:12:56.200 --> 01:13:00.200 that there was something in the video which wasn't moving. 01:13:00.200 --> 01:13:03.200 Wasn't moving. 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01:17:40.200 Let's try this video. 01:17:40.200 --> 01:17:42.200 Let's try this video. 01:17:42.200 --> 01:17:44.200 Let's try this video. 01:17:44.200 --> 01:17:46.200 Let's try this video. 01:17:46.200 --> 01:17:48.200 The paradigm remains the same. 01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:51.200 Anybody who says, oh yeah, that's a space platform, 01:17:51.200 --> 01:17:53.200 ding, end of Korea. 01:17:53.200 --> 01:17:55.200 End of Korea. 01:17:55.200 --> 01:17:57.200 Or worse. 01:17:57.200 --> 01:17:59.200 You know the other options. 01:17:59.200 --> 01:18:01.200 So anyway, 01:18:01.200 --> 01:18:04.200 let me give you the whole Mars conspiracy in a nutshell. 01:18:04.200 --> 01:18:06.200 I didn't write this, it just perfectly, 01:18:06.200 --> 01:18:08.200 pretty much covers it. 01:18:08.200 --> 01:18:10.200 I have no doubt that there is some real mind blowing stuff 01:18:10.200 --> 01:18:13.200 going on on Mars, or Aptus, or Phobos, or whatever. 01:18:13.200 --> 01:18:15.200 And now governments know it, maybe not the governments, 01:18:15.200 --> 01:18:17.200 but the secret government. 01:18:17.200 --> 01:18:19.200 What they have to do is take the people's minds off Mars. 01:18:19.200 --> 01:18:21.200 They send these rovers up there, 01:18:21.200 --> 01:18:23.200 and they send back these pictures of basically nothing. 01:18:23.200 --> 01:18:27.200 The TV and internet are flooded with these pictures of nothing. 01:18:27.200 --> 01:18:30.200 Soon the people get tired of looking at pictures of nothing, 01:18:30.200 --> 01:18:33.200 and don't want to be bothered with Mars anymore. 01:18:33.200 --> 01:18:35.200 They trust that the government will make them aware 01:18:35.200 --> 01:18:37.200 of any important happenings on Mars, 01:18:37.200 --> 01:18:39.200 or Aptus, or Phobos, or whatever, should they occur. 01:18:39.200 --> 01:18:41.200 Of course, this will never happen. 01:18:41.200 --> 01:18:43.200 We the taxpayers paid for those rovers, 01:18:43.200 --> 01:18:45.200 we had a right to know when they were launched, 01:18:45.200 --> 01:18:47.200 how they landed, we have a right to see the pictures, 01:18:47.200 --> 01:18:49.200 so they give us a million pictures of nothing. 01:18:49.200 --> 01:18:51.200 Now we're so bored with the pictures 01:18:51.200 --> 01:18:53.200 that we really don't care anymore. 01:18:53.200 --> 01:18:55.200 They know we won't ask questions 01:18:55.200 --> 01:18:57.200 for fear of being bored out of our minds. 01:18:57.200 --> 01:18:59.200 And that's about how it works, 01:18:59.200 --> 01:19:01.200 because most people have no interest in this stuff. 01:19:01.200 --> 01:19:03.200 Oh yeah, rovers landed on Mars, oh that's nice. 01:19:03.200 --> 01:19:05.200 Or what time's Coronation Street on? 01:19:05.200 --> 01:19:07.200 So that is basically the secret government. 01:19:07.200 --> 01:19:09.200 And that's the secret government. 01:19:09.200 --> 01:19:11.200 And that's the secret government. 01:19:11.200 --> 01:19:13.200 So that is basically my presentation for you. 01:19:13.200 --> 01:19:15.200 There is more stuff I haven't had time to show. 01:19:15.200 --> 01:19:17.200 Those are the websites, I've got all this on my website. 01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:19.200 So I've got some cards and leaflets, 01:19:19.200 --> 01:19:21.200 and you know, I've got books, 01:19:21.200 --> 01:19:23.200 booklets, booklets, 50 pence. 01:19:23.200 --> 01:19:25.200 And I think I'm just about up to time now. 01:19:25.200 --> 01:19:27.200 I think, do we have some time for questions, Anthony? 01:19:27.200 --> 01:19:29.200 Okay, if anybody's got any questions, 01:19:29.200 --> 01:19:31.200 I'll try and answer them if I can. 01:19:31.200 --> 01:19:33.200 Conrad. 01:19:33.200 --> 01:19:35.200 Did he? 01:20:03.200 --> 01:20:05.200 I think you're not being able to see it. 01:20:05.200 --> 01:20:07.200 Yeah, I think that's a lot of it how it works. 01:20:07.200 --> 01:20:09.200 Any other questions? 01:20:09.200 --> 01:20:11.200 Just one other. 01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:13.200 Have you got a copy of the Hale Crater? 01:20:13.200 --> 01:20:15.200 The what? 01:20:15.200 --> 01:20:17.200 Hale Crater. 01:20:17.200 --> 01:20:19.200 H-A-L-E. 01:20:19.200 --> 01:20:21.200 Hale Crater, no, not on here, no. 01:20:21.200 --> 01:20:23.200 I don't know. 01:20:23.200 --> 01:20:25.200 Well, I haven't really looked at the Moon very much. 01:20:25.200 --> 01:20:29.200 I don't find the Moon stuff as compelling as the Mars stuff, to be honest. 01:20:29.200 --> 01:20:31.200 It's more like science. 01:20:31.200 --> 01:20:33.200 Oh, sorry. 01:20:33.200 --> 01:20:35.200 I'm very angry on this thing. 01:20:35.200 --> 01:20:37.200 Which one is that? 01:20:37.200 --> 01:20:41.200 It shows buildings, roads, agricultural fields. 01:20:41.200 --> 01:20:43.200 Oh, is that the one that was on Joe Skipper's site? 01:20:43.200 --> 01:20:45.200 Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. 01:20:45.200 --> 01:20:49.200 That site has now gone down, but it was a bit of a mixed bag. 01:20:49.200 --> 01:20:51.200 I think there's some good stuff on there. 01:20:51.200 --> 01:20:55.200 Some stuff was just compression artifacts and stuff. 01:20:55.200 --> 01:20:57.200 But that's the size of the building. 01:20:57.200 --> 01:20:59.200 Yeah, quite possibly. 01:20:59.200 --> 01:21:01.200 Any other questions? 01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:03.200 Any thoughts on the Russian probes, Mars? 01:21:03.200 --> 01:21:05.200 What I've heard? 01:21:05.200 --> 01:21:17.200 Well, as I say, there's been various stories about the probes being switched off prematurely, or failing prematurely, or the Phobos 2 story. 01:21:17.200 --> 01:21:19.200 What he said that it was hit by a missile, that I don't think is true. 01:21:19.200 --> 01:21:21.200 I've got that in the full presentation as to why. 01:21:21.200 --> 01:21:28.200 There's quite a good breakdown on the website where I've got the original pictures, the original final six pictures from that probe. 01:21:28.200 --> 01:21:31.200 And you can see what is alleged to be a missile is no such thing. 01:21:31.200 --> 01:21:33.200 It's a digital artifact on the picture. 01:21:33.200 --> 01:21:37.200 And you can see that clearly if you see the sequence of about six or eight pictures. 01:21:37.200 --> 01:21:41.200 But I don't know, so I haven't gone to the Russian probes that much. 01:21:58.200 --> 01:22:00.200 Thank you.