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My name is Jan Harzant. I'm the Executive Director for Mufan. We are a scientific research

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organization that basically collectsiding reports from the public and then goes and investigates

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them. Our mission statement as an organization is the scientific study of UFOs for the

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benefit of humanity and we have three primary goals. We investigate UFO reports. We promote

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research into the UFO subject and we educate the public on our findings.

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My name is Laird Scranton. The first slide here is just to give you a little review of

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the kinds of books I write. I write about ancient cosmology and language. The term cosmology,

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if you're not familiar with it, is it refers to the way that a culture thinks about concepts

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of creation. In ancient times what they were talking about was were three things essentially.

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They were talking about how the universe forms, how matter forms, and how the processes

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of biological reproduction happen. I started my inquiries into these studies with an African

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tribe, a little known African type called the Dogen, who you may be aware of. You may know

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about a book called the Sirius Mystery that Robert Temple wrote back in the 1970s. My introduction

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was through a book called Unexplained that my wife, Fris actually gave me every chapter in this

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book, had to do with some unexplained mystery in the world. One of the chapters happened to be

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about the Dogen. The mystery with them was they seemed to know some things. The Dogen are a modern

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day primitive tribe from Mali in Africa. The mystery was they seemed to know some things about

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astronomy that they shouldn't be able to reasonably know without access to powerful telescopes

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and other equipment. That sort of tweaked my interest a little bit and I started trying to

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research them. I started by reading Robert Temple's book, The Sirius Mystery, as I said, and then I

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went on to the sources that he didn't actually have access to. There was an anthropological study

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of the Dogen tribe that was written in French. About five years after Robert Temple wrote,

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there was an English translation of that book. I was working from it. That led me to all sorts of

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other interesting sources. This is just to give you a few of who the Dogen are. They are a primitive

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tribe. They live out in the middle of the desert about an eight-hour drive away from anything that we

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might consider to be civilized from our Western perspective. The Dogen had done a very careful job

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of preserving their traditions down through the centuries and they put a high priority on

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purity of language. The Dogen live in northwest Africa. That's where Molly is up in the corner there.

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They're down in their settlements or in the southwest or the southeast corner of Molly.

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There are about 200,000 Dogen tribes people right now. In particular, the thing that caught the

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interest of Robert Temple was the fact that the Dogen know facts about the star system of

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serious that they shouldn't know. Serious is a bright sunlight star. A star level. A lot like our

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son. That is the brightest star you probably see in the night sky. You can find it easily at night.

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If you can find the belt of Orion and follow the sort of imaginary line through the three stars

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of the belt down to the southwest or down to the downward, it'll lead you to serious which is the

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brightest star. The Dogen understood that serious actually consists of more than one star.

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They understood that there's a second star there that is a dwarf star, very massive and very small.

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That's so close to serious that because of the bright glare of the main star, you can't see the

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second one. They also know the correct orbital period for the two stars and they have suggested

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for years that there's a third body star or a planet in that same system that the astronomers

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didn't know about until recently. People like me know about the Dogen through the studies of a

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couple of French anthropologists, a guy named Marcel Grieol who in the early 1900s became the

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premier anthropologist of Europe, really one of the premier anthropologists. He's a Frenchman

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and his student, Germaine Diederlent, who also studied with him. Grieol's daughter, who later became

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a well known anthropologist on her own, also was involved in the studies and compiled the dictionary

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of the Dogen language and a few other things. The primary study is called the pale fox, at least

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in English, that's what it's called. There are a number of other articles and books that they've written.

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There's a book that an English is called Conversations with Ogotmelli, but in French it means

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God of Water and it's a diary, essentially, of Grieol's instruction and an initiate to the Dogen

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secret esoteric tradition after many decades of gaining the trust of the Dogen tribe. This is the

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cover of Robert Temple's book. Robert Temple's perspective on the Dogen probably plays better to

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your main interest in UFOs. He cited the Dogen as a likely example of an alien contact

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with humans. He said that the reason they knew this knowledge about astronomy was because they

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learned it from aliens. He had the disadvantage of writing before there was easy access to the

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anthropological study and so I have some differences in his perspective or with his perspective.

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We come back around to some of the same points of view, but from we get there in different ways.

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Carl Sagan shortly after Temple's book was written took an exception with Temple's thesis.

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He said clearly the reason the Dogen know what they know about the stars of Syrius is because they

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learned it from some modern visitor who told it to them and then the Dogen priest very

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abligingly added it to their lore and then forgot that they learned it from somebody who was Western.

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In my opinion, Carl Sagan did a very great disservice to the world of scientific inquiry.

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There's a principle in science called Occam's Razor. What originally would meant to say was that

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if you're in a position of having two theories that are in always outwardly equally equal to each

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other, there's no reason to prefer one over the other that you prefer the one that is the simpler

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of the two theories. Sagan sort of twisted that around to the point of view that if I can propose

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an answer to a question that is I can argue is in some way simpler than yours I must be right.

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And my feeling is the correct answer very often isn't the simplest answer.

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Now one thing that Sagan missed when he made his statement about the Dogen knowledge was he didn't

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realize that the serious information is part of a body of knowledge that the Dogen preserve that is

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all expressed using ancient Egyptian words that went out of use around 700 BC. And so a lot of

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what I've done, a lot of what I've done through my series of books is to demonstrate how the Dogen

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words are Egyptian words. And I've tried to do it not on the same basis that linguists would do it because

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a linguist would require written text to be able to trace atomologies of words and so forth.

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But I've done it on the same basis as an anthropologist or a mythologist would do it.

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If we have two gods who have all the same attributes and two cultures like the Dogen god,

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Amma and the Egyptian god, Amin. And they hold the same place in relation to a whole system of

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mythology and they have similar attributes and similar icons and they have similar names.

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You know based on all that information we can equate the two gods. I say it's ludicrous to say

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that we can't also equate the two names if we can equate the two gods. So we're fortunate that

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it with the Dogen terminology that they use. Typically we have a cluster or a bundle of different

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points of information that pertain to that word. It might relate to a particular god or a particular myth

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or a two an act. A mythical act the god does or an icon or whatever. We can correlate that body,

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that bundle of information to a matching bundle and another culture. And I'm arguing that that is

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a positive correlation between the two. Now another thing that the Carl Seigen missed is that

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in Egyptian mythology the goddess Isis who represents Soathus or Serious is understood to have a

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dark sister named Nepthus. One way I explain this is that when I say that Isis represents Serious

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I'm implicitly asking you to play a game and the game is when I say goddess You say star.

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So when we then say she has a dark sister if we're playing when I say goddess You say star the implication

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is the dark sister is the second star in the Serious system. Now Marcel Briel described the Dogen

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creation tradition as being a very closely held secret tradition. It's an esoteric tradition

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and the way it worked was that any person, any tribe person in the culture male or female

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could eventually learn the inner secrets of the tradition and although it was required to learn

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it was to continue to pursue it. If the initiate continued to ask the next pertinent question

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the priest was required to give an honest answer to the question as long as it was appropriate

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to the status of the initiate. On the other hand if someone were to come along and ask a question

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of the priest that was inappropriate to their status the priest was required to either remain silent

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or rely if they had to to maintain the secret of the tradition. A few years after Robert Temple

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wrote his book a Belgian anthropologist named Walter Van Beek took a team into Dogen country

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to do a restudity of Greel's study. Now it was the interesting choice to do that because Greel's

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principle area of expertise was in religion whereas Professor Van Beek's area of expertise

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was in ecology but he took a team into trying to replicate Greel's findings. Again that's

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that's not unusual in anthropology for a group to go in and do a restudity of some aspect of

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another anthropologist's work but it's very uncommon to go in and do a restudity of their entire

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life's work. Van Beek's team after asking leading questions of all the every Dogen tribes

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person they could find priest or otherwise came to the conclusion that they could not replicate

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any of Greel's findings that as far as they were concerned there was no Dogen cosmology at

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all as Greel described it that Van Beek concluded that the Dogen priests had simply casually fabricated

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a cosmology to satisfy the questions that Greel had asked them that this was all just made up.

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He also said that the there's a type of a line ritual shrine that the Dogen build that sort of

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a grand symbol for their tradition and Van Beek's opinion was that this was an architectural form

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that was known only to Greel he said it was a shimera he called it known only to Greel.

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This is a picture of what that shrine looks like. We'll come back and talk about that

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mobile how it relates to other shrines. When I look at Professor Van Beek's study I compare it

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knowing that Greel had described this as a secret tradition and specifically said you can't expect

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to walk in and learn about it off the top of the sort of off the cuff. Greel himself took 30 years

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to learn about it. I compare what Professor Van Beek did to a visit to a college campus on

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parents weekend who had coming away and finding no evidence of dry rockahol use.

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So the Dogen shrine which is described as a great re, Van Beek's team,

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in fairness to his team they missed this but 60 years were the researchers missed the same point

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including Greel's that the Dogen Granary shrine happens to be a form of a Buddhist stupa.

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It's based on the same ground plan it's aligned according to the same method.

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It evokes the same series of geometric shapes in the same order with the same symbolism

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and it bears a relationship to a cosmology, a system of cosmology, a system of symbols and myths.

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That is a match for the cosmology that associates with a Buddhist stupa.

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So what in the end will Professor Van Beek was asking us to believe is that the Dogen

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priest casually fabricated Buddhism. So I wrote to Professor Van Beek. I said look at

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there's a relationship here that you missed. This can't be a casual fabrication. This is a

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known system of cosmology and a known type of a shrine. This shrine is known to large cultures

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across Asia and India. This is not a fabricated system. I offered to co-report that finding with him

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in an anthropological journal that he edited called current anthropology.

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We exchanged several emails. He didn't respond to my offer to co-report it with him. So I ended up

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publishing it separately through a journal called Anthropology News that is published by the

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University of Chicago. As far as I know my article is the last word on that question of legitimacy

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of the cosmology. This is the series of geometric shapes that are evoked by the shrines.

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It starts with a circle at the base that symbolizes the concept of the heavens above.

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A central sticker or a nomeness placed in the center of that circle that

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creates a figure that symbolizes the sun. That's the equivalent of the Egyptian sun lift.

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Actually the Chinese sun lift started out that way also. It's a symbol of the god raw in Egypt.

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Then it creates a square shape. In the case of Buddhism the Buddhist shrine, the base of the shrine

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is squared and the top of the shrine is left as circular. With the doven shrine the base remains

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circular and the top becomes the square flat roof. Now we can argue that the doven shrine is the original

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form because of the mathematics of the geometry. The way it works out the circular base of the shrine

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creates a circumference that's the same value as the area of the square roof of the shrine.

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They're both 64 cubits. Now realizing that the Buddhist system had commonalities. I mean the

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doven system had commonalities with Buddhism. I searched and found a leading authority on Buddhist

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cosmology and architecture, Buddhist symbolism and architecture named Adrian Snotgrass. He's from

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the University of West Sydney, Australia. This book lays out in a completely different format that

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Reels book essentially the same system of cosmology with all the same symbols, very similar definitions,

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but express using Sanskrit words instead of the Egyptian words that are used in the doven

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system. This is one of the resources that I use, comparative resources I use,

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when I'm trying to identify the meaning of a term or a symbol that I'm not familiar with.

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I'll look at how the doven understand it and look how the Buddhist understand it. I'll look at how

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the Egyptians understand it and try to triangulate in on what the original meaning might have been for the

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symbol. This is the journal that I published my article in. I actually did the journal that

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then be edited. This is the journal I published in. As it turns out, the highly controversial

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information that Robert Temple cited for the doven, they're knowledge of the stars of

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Syria, is really only the very smallest tip of an iceberg of a much larger body of much more

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controversial information. You don't get at this without understanding the way the language works,

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but the doven pre-say that their cosmology describes how a tribal god named Amah created matter.

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And as I was reading the doven descriptions, I could see that they had the definition of an atom

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correct. They knew that they're atom, which they call the Poe, is a fundamental unit of matter

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from which all other things are made. They had definitions of protons, electrons, and neutrons,

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they knew that they called these Senacy, they say that the Senacy's surround the Poe

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by crossing in all directions to form an est that a description of an electron orbit.

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So I could see they had these two top most components of matter correct, but I didn't have the

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background to evaluate the long descending structure they had that led to that. I thought if the

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first two, the top two components are right, one of the chances that the rest of the structure might be right.

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So I did some research and read books by Brian, Reen, and Stephen Hawking. And

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discover that the rest of the doven structure is exactly right, if not, or an area where there is debate

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about a subject, they at least have a reasonable perspective on what the stage of matter is.

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They say that matter begins with as waves, it vibrates, the matter is woven from strings.

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It creates a fundamental little structure of collapsed dimensions called, that's equivalent to

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the Calabia space of string theory, the doven call at the egg of the world.

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Those eggs in sequence end up forming membranes that the doven compare to the thin covering that surrounds the brain.

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They define four categories of fundamental particles.

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They science says there are more than 200 of these fundamental particles, but the doven say there are

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266. Very often in the comparisons between the scientific view and the doven view,

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the scientific view is sort of non-specific and the doven view is very specific.

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The doven view is not given as theory, it's given as fact, this is how it is.

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These end up rising to create the protons, electrons, and neutrons, and the atoms that produce

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matter. The doven don't have a written language, and it's understood generally that cosmology preceded written

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language historically. The fact that the doven don't have a written language is one of the things that

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allows us to place a timeframe on when the doven might have had contact with the ancient Egypt.

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Writing, the written language was a very early feature of Egyptian culture, sometime shortly after

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3000 BC. So this fact makes it look as if the doven might have had contact with the Egyptians before that time.

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There are other facts that also indicate that the doven use all the same calendar systems the

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Egyptians use, but they don't have the five intercalary days, and leap year days that are used to

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reconcile calendars in Egypt. And those were also a very early feature of Egyptian culture.

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So there the doven cosmological drawings very often take the same shape and have the same meaning as

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certain Egyptian higher glyphs. Make it appear as if when written language was introduced that someone adopted

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these predefined cosmological shapes and used them as lifts, and that made me think that

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maybe the Egyptian glyphs are conceptual rather than primaryly, primarily phonetic.

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the Egyptologists say that it's primarily a phonetic language, and that yes, sometimes a glyphs are used

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for other things, but it's primarily phonetic. Looking at it now, looking in retrospect now, I

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realized that any any thinking person should realize that most phonetic languages only define

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most written language is only defined about 40 phonetic values that are spoken.

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The Egyptian higher glyphic language uses 4,000 lifts, one of the chances, and it also amids

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vowel sounds from the words, one of the chances that the Egyptian higher glyphic language would be

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phonetic knowing that, not for a great. Now for my doven and Egyptian word comparisons, I'm comparing

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a French language dog and dictionary compiled by reals, daughter, Gen. V. Calamigrehal,

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who was present through most of the studies in dog and country, and a dictionary of the Egyptian

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higher glyphic language called, an Egyptian higher glyphic dictionary by Sir E.A. Wallace Budge,

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who wrote in the early 1900s. Now, budges dictionary happens to be happens to go on out of favor

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with Egyptologists. It's not highly respected. Some Egyptologists go so far as to say that budges

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couldn't even read Egyptian words, that it's a completely flawed dictionary. They don't,

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if you reference it, they won't accept the reference. My view is, budges can't be categorically

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wrong about the Egyptian higher glyphic language in a way that predictably agrees with the dog

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and the dog. And so I use the dog and dictionary as independent evidence to compare to budge

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and demonstrate that at least in relation to the cosmological words, budge has the right.

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He has the meanings right. Now for a linguist, if you compare two words based on the net

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value and the meaning, that evidence is not enough to support a correlation between the words.

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There's too much chance of coincidence because there are two few phonetic values being represented.

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In my case, I'm very fortunate in that the dog and system is defined so that every term

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carries at least two usually more than two meanings. And these are logically distance meanings

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from one another. For example, the dog and hidden god, Amma, his name also means to grasp or to

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hold firm or to establish. In Egypt, the Egyptian god, Amin, whose name is actually equated in

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the number of African languages they create Amma with Amin. Amin is the hidden god of Egypt,

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his name also means to grasp or to hold firm. In the Hebrew language, I read an article where

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a Hebrew scholar was arguing that the Hebrew word Amin, the pause at the end of a prayer,

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can't be the Egyptian word Amin because the Hebrew word comes from a root that means to establish.

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I thought this is dramatic irony. The guy doesn't realize that he's just shot himself in the

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his own theory of the foot because to establish as an appropriate root for the word Amin in Egypt.

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Now, as I was working with the Egyptian glyphs, the resembled doggan drawings, I started to examine

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words that were written using just those glyphs trying to understand how do these glyphs relate

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to those drawings. And what I discovered was an Egyptian word for week. It's written with two glyphs,

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it's very simple word. The first glyph is the sung-leph with the circle with the dot that refers

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to the concept of the day. And the second glyph is an upside down you that is the Egyptian number

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10. I looked at that word and I said symbolically that says to me 10 days. And I went to the

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do some research and discovered the Egyptians had ancient Egyptians had a 10-day week.

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So effectively, the Egyptian word, the form of the word, the symbolic form of the word, told me

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information, correct information about the Egyptian culture that I didn't know before I looked at

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the word. And I asked myself one of the chances that other Egyptian words work the same way.

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Well, it turns out at least all of the cosmological words seem to work this way.

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The Egyptian goddess' need for a net is the goddess who weaves matter from threads.

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That's one of her explicit roles in the tradition. The Egyptian word for thread

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is written with the glyphs up at the top left. It's a wave glyph and X, two hemispheres and a looped

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string. Now I read that word in the way I spelled out to the right. It says weaves matter in two ways,

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followed by the X and the string intersection. Turns out the X and that looped string intersection

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are the two ways, two simple ways that strings in string theory are understood to intersect each other

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as matters woven. There's an image here that's not showing because of translation of this

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software on this PC. The name of me, herself, says weaves matter and it's followed by a glyph

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that is the image of a complex way that strings intersect each other and string theory. What I was

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supposed to be showing you below is the scientific diagram that takes that same shape that it's sort

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of a time-lapse image of what happens when two loops of strings come together and intersect and then

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come apart. In other words, the name of the goddess Neeth tells us that she weaves matter and it

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gives us a diagram of the scientific diagram that demonstrates that she weaves matter. One reason that

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we can say with certainty that the doggan tradition is not, doesn't reflect modern day knowledge,

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is because in certain cases, it goes a little beyond what modern scientists are willing to talk about.

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Brian Greene and Stephen Hawking don't talk about how is it, what is it that the causes an act of

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perception to change matter and its wave-like state in the particles. Nobody really has a theory

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about what makes that happen. How is it that we can just look at something and have the act of

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looking at it or perceiving it, change it from waves in the particles. They have experiments

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that show this happens, they can't explain why it happens. From the doggan perspective,

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matter begins with the shape on the left hand side, it begins with the circle with the dot in the

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middle of it, which they call the egg in the ball or the womb of all world signs or the picture of

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Amma. They conceptualize it in relation to the four classical elements of water fire wind and earth.

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But the way they explain it, those symbols represent categories of how can I say this? These are

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if you imagine many stages of creation, these are, they break them down into four separate segments.

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They represent four segments of the processes of creation. Water is matter and its wave-like

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state. Fire is the act of perception that causes it to change. Wind is vibration and earth is mass.

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This is one of a series of four stage metaphors that the Egyptians are the doggan give us

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to help us understand their symbols because the symbolism start to become so complicated that you

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can't put it together. What does a symbol represent? By giving us these metaphors, we know that

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any time they're talking about something connected to water, they're talking about initial stages of

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creation. If they're talking about things related to earth, they're talking about the final stages

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of creation. That's one metaphor to help us explain it. On the right here is just an image of what

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scientists think happened happens when a wave is perceived. It's the same description that

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dobin gave that I've been saying that the wave is drawn up like a tent cloth pulled up from the

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middle. Another way that dobin explained what happens with matter after it's been perceived is

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they describe it, they compare it to bubble forming. If you've ever blown up so bubbles with a

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wand, when you dip the wand in the first time and you start to blow bubbles, the first few bubbles

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don't take. It takes a little while before you can blow bubble the whole shape. The reason is a

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kind of what happens with matter. Matter forms, the first few bubbles of it that start to form

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are too insubstantial to hold their own weight and so they collapse. It's not until you get to the

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seventh bubble that you have a structure that holds its form. Those seven stages, those seven

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collapsing bubbles that form this egg of the world that they think matter is based on. This is

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a structure that like the calabi-out space of string theory is thought to exist at every point

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in space and time. The dobin can conceive of that in several different ways to begin with, they

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conceive of it as seven rays of a star of increasing length coming out from a central point.

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The second way they think of it is, has the spiral that can be drawn around or inscribed around

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the endpoints of those rays. So that's the figure that represents the first seven vibrations of

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that egg of the world they talk about. That egg of the world has an eighth conceptual stage where

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the final ray grows long enough to pierce the bubble. When that happens, that's the end of the

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first egg and it's also initiates a second egg and those eggs in series eventually creates shapes

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like this that will eventually turn into to membranes. These are actually scientific diagrams of the

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calabi-out shape. Now once it creates those membranes what we're producing is what's called

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a background field and it's against that background field that we interpret the fundamental

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particles that get formed. From a scientific perspective we have more than 200 fundamental particles

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categorized or termed as quarks and these quarks combine together in different ways to form

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larger particles that eventually become electrons or protons and neutrons.

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Science says they're 200 of these, they're going to say there are 266. Now in the scientific

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perspective, from the scientific perspective these fundamental particles are grouped into four

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categories based on what is essentially symmetry of the particle. They're talking about the property

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is called spin but what it really refers to is what the particle looks like from different angles.

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There's a first kind of particle which compares to figure B here that looks the same from all

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four sides. No matter what angle you look at it from you see the same shape. There's a second figure

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that compares to figure A there that has to be turned 180 degrees to look the same. A third type

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figure C that has to be turned 360 degrees to look the same and there's a fourth type that can't

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be described in two dimensions with a drawing but it's the odd shape that's the villain draw there

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from a scientific perspective this one is odd because it has to be turned around twice in order to

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look the same. And so the suggestion is that there's a possibility here that the reason it has to

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be turned around twice to look the same is because it connects into a realm that we can't

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readily perceive that as we turn it it's passing through an area of space or an area of existence

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that we can't see sort of akin to the blind spot in the mirrors of your car. Now all of that

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combines to create atoms that are that can be pictured like this the dough can refer to it as the

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pole and it's comprised of senacids and these are words that that all of the words that the

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doughen used to describe these stages of matter are corollated I have correlated to Egyptian

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hybrid glyphic words that have similar meetings oftentimes they're written with glyphs

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who shapes match our matches for the doughen drawings the doughen drawing of the senacide is four

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loops these are figures they draw on the sand with a stick so it's not a high-resolution image

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like this but it's essentially the same picture as this what's called a de orbital it's one of the

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shapes that electrons form when they they circle an atom and this shape has been image with electron

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microscope this is natural figure you can see scientifically in the Buddhist system that kind of a

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figure is called an adequate symbol for the for Buddhism their most sacred symbols are the

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adequate symbols which are defined as symbols that no matter what happens can't lose their meaning

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the reason that is is because they represent a shape that you can see in the world that if you

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have the right equipment you can see in the world when you see it it's obvious that the shape is the

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symbol they have the same meaning and they have the same purpose so it wouldn't matter if every Buddhist

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initiative forgot what the symbol meant eventually somebody come along with a microscope see that shape

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and realize oh that's what it referred to now my work has been serve a progression from Africa

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to Egypt to India to Tibet and China the most recent book which is called point of origin ties all

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of these cultures to go back to tepe and turkey we'll talk about that before we're done

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that the book that follows that which is at the publishers talks about northern Scotland which

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has an interesting relationship to all of these cultures and the book that I am currently writing

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is about the Maury in New Zealand which also relates in a later era to this system I had mentioned

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that when the dobin and the Buddhists in the Egyptians are talking about processes of creation

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they're talking simultaneously about we're talking about three different themes the creation of

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the universe the creation of matter and biological creation now almost as sort of an over the top

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demonstration of their capability they define all three of these themes of creation using a single

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progression of symbols so when we talk about what does a symbol mean that relates to process

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of creation we can't ask what does a symbol mean we have to ask what does a mean in relation to one

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of these themes and that's part of what makes the symbols so hard to understand is the symbol doesn't

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just have one meaning it has potentially multiple meanings for example the shape of the hemisphere

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if we're talking about biological reproduction represents an expanding womb if we're talking about

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matter it represents the expansion of mass as we form atoms and just as biological production happens

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it begins with a fertilized egg so the formation of the universe in these ancient traditions

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begins with a cosmogonic egg we have parallelism here that the idea is if you can understand

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one of these processes we've explained it to you in a way that will allow you to explain all the

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other processes all you have to do is think about how it was explained the first time and extrapolate

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that to the other subject matter this shape of the right is really a diagram a scientific diagram

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of the event horizon of a black hole and it's the shape that the dog and relate to the origin of the

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universe now as a way of cross confirming meaning what the one of the big difficulties for

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somebody like me one of the big um something blocks is that the human brain is wired to see patterns

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even when they arguably don't exist I mean any child who's looked up at a cloud and seen you know

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the picture of an animal a dog or something other than the cloud you realize that the brain is doing

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it's best to see what it understands to make something it understands out of whatever it

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is happens to be seeing and so it's hard for somebody like me who's doing this research to

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distinguish between a real resemblance or real interpretation that has some basis and one

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that I only think has some basis and I'm chasing because it's my it got stuck in my head that

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this is what it means so how do you distinguish between those things um one way that I do it is I make

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some rules for myself about interpretations I require that every interpretation begin with a

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clear statement on the part of the culture I'm studying and hopefully that statement is confirmed

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by other cultures who have the same practice same simple same um a ritual um outlook

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so there are the ways that I find to compare and validate the meanings that I'm trying to

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the interpretations I'm trying to make the Egyptian lifts define the the meanings of the Egyptian

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words so if I'm in doubt about what what what it term means I can just read those lifts there are

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it's a particular kind of Egyptian word that I haven't talked about that includes a training

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glyph on the end that doesn't get pronounced the Egyptologists look at those words and they say

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that glyph is there for emphasis because usually the final glyph has some bearing on the meaning of the

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word if if we're talking about a table it might be a picture of a table I can see when I look at

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the word my way and read it symbolically that the reason that training glyph is there is because

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symbolic sense that precedes it defines the glyph they've given us in their language

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definitions for what their own shapes mean and once you realize that then you can lay out a whole long

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list of Egyptian higher glyphs and what their likely meanings are based on what the Egyptian

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language itself says they mean and you can check those back against the Buddhists or against the

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dog and or wherever to verify that you've interpreted the symbols the right way so we've got cross

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convertibility here we've got Egyptian lifts defining the meanings of Egyptian words we've got

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Egyptian words confirmed by the means of the dog and cosmological words which are explicitly defined by

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the priest we've got Buddhism confirming the dog and cosmological symbols and concepts

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and with each book I've addressed another culture that has some other pieces of the puzzle

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they can compare to in China they've got a problem because events that happen around 3000 BC

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we only know about from texts that were written down around 300 BC and so we have this huge gap in

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knowledge and every little detail that comes up becomes a subject of argument among the scholars

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because they don't have any any basis for anchoring an interpretation what I did with my book on

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China is realizing that the Chinese word for week is formulated exactly the way that Egyptian word for

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week is that I talked about it's written with the sung lift and the number 10 and the Chinese had

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10 day week in ancient times these are matching systems that we're talking about and so any time

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I come up across a Chinese term that is in dispute I go to the Egyptian high-re�reactionary

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and the dog and dictionary I see what they say about that term and then I apply it back and try to

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demonstrate that there's evidence to support that in China and so I'm sort of using each system to

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leverage the other systems now at the bottom of each of these traditions is the idea that

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civilizing knowledge was brought to humanity by teachers at ancient times the best demonstration of

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that's true is the dog instructor of matter and the fact that it goes beyond what our

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scientists write now talk about somebody knew what they were talking about and it was us

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let's go a little bit further than that in the Buddhist interpretation

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actually it's not an interpretation on the third page of the book I showed you by Adrian Snagraze

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symbolism of the stupa he declares that the most sacred symbols of the Buddhist tradition are

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understood to have been brought to humanity by a non-human source he flatly says it in the dog

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and tradition they say that their symbols were brought to them by a non-human source originally I thought

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that that source must be what I imagine it is being your typical sci-fi alien

393
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I thought the emphasis on the stars of serious indicated that the aliens probably came from

394
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serious and that was my working theory for a very long time it wasn't for quite a number of years

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that I realized that I was looking at this thing the wrong way at the bottom of these traditions

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are philosophies that define how the not just how matter forms and not just how our universe formed

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but how universes in generically form according to the dog and universes form in pairs that

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ours is the fourth of seven pairs of universes that each material universe is matched to or tagged

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with paired with a non-material universe and that there is a flow of energy between those universes

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00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:58,000
that is comparable to the natural water cycle on the planet Earth that if you didn't have this

401
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:04,640
flow there wouldn't be life so with the natural waterfront cycle if you're not familiar with what that

402
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:11,040
is that's the idea that you know water evaporates into clouds the clouds rise up over the mountains

403
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,080
and create rain the rain produces streams and rivers that flow back to the ocean and then the water

404
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evaporates again if you interfered with that cycle at any point if you prevented the water from

405
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,160
evaporating from the oceans or you prevented the rain from falling from the clouds life within

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00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,840
they say that there is energy the flows between the non-material and material universes that is of

407
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:42,240
that same sort so based on that we can understand the dog and statement that their tradition was

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00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:49,120
brought to them by non-humans but they also say they were non-material they don't say they came from

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00:45:49,120 --> 00:46:00,240
planet they said they came from this paired universe and they said that their teachers were very

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concerned about what the potential bad effects were us would be for us on long-term exposure to them

411
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and so how are they going to teach us anything if they couldn't be around us for very long

412
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,160
and so the way this all of that problem was they sequestered seven tribes people

413
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actually eight tribe people at a remote location instructed those eight tribe members who were

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referred to as ancestors instructed them in civilizing skills that were tagged to these

415
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:37,360
recreational ideas sort of nemonically tagged the way a doggon weaves a cloth of the way he plows his

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00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,960
field has cosmological meaning and that way every time he walks out of his hut in the morning

417
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,480
the activities of his daily life reinforce the instruction about the cosmology that's part of how they

418
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they pass this stuff down so those eight tribe members would then be sent back to the tribe to

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00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:03,360
instruct everybody else about what they'd learned so the idea is that there was some remote sanctuary

420
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:10,400
instructual instructional sanctuaries one or more around the planet that these people were taken to

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00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:17,440
for this instruction to keep us safe from the teachers so now that we're going to go back to

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00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:27,280
Tepay aside in Turkey this is an exceedingly ancient site it's so old that the mega-lethic stone

423
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,600
structures that are founded this site preceded the earliest evidence we have of tools capable of

424
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,640
building them there are about 12,000 years old it's a site on a mountainside in Turkey

425
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,680
this is a map of where it's located this is what the site looks like it consists of

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00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,560
standing stone pillars that are placed roughly at circles and there are a number of these they've only

427
00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:01,840
excavated about 10% of the site and they're finding multiple sets of the same structure again and again again

428
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:08,240
the archaeologists can understand why would they need so many you know in some cultures they'd use a

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temple and then at some point the 100,000 of years later they would seem to decommissioned or retire

430
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,880
at and build a new one here there doesn't seem any reason to build a new one they have a perfectly

431
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:26,160
good one why do they need the second one my outlook is these were final projects for

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00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:33,520
students who were taught how to do stonework and we were taught concepts of cosmology go back to

433
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,120
the topic is located in the the fertile crescent where scholars have long thought that civilization

434
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:48,400
began it's sort of one of the meanings of the word go back to the topic is central hill these

435
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,480
these ancient words have multiple meanings toward the topic and the Turkish language has upward

436
00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,960
of 25 meanings so when someone asks you to translate a term again you're in the position of saying

437
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,600
well I can't just give you one translation that might be in this or might mean that go back to

438
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:12,400
the topic is sometimes translated as poppelly hill sometimes just translated as central hill

439
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,600
sometimes it's translated as hill with the naval which is actually a symbolic definition of a

440
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,960
stupa of a stupa I'll talk a little bit more about go back to the topic I'm going to give you

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a no review of what each of the books is about but before that I'll talk more about go back to the

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00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:34,320
topic my most recent book which is called point of origin is an attempt to try to link the later

443
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,200
cultures to go back to the topic because go back to the topic seems to have a lot of attributes

444
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:46,320
that are described in later cultures the word tepe itself and Egypt they talk about a revered

445
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:54,320
ancient time called zeptepi and Buddhism they talk about the first time knowledge was transmitted

446
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:00,800
to humanity in a place called bultra peak well on those those stone pillars that go back to tepe we

447
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:08,640
have beautiful car of images of animals including bultra's cultures are prominent there the names

448
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,080
of the animals pictured on the on the pillars if you look at the Egyptian hybrid living dictionary

449
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,760
they're all pronounced they're hominims for terms of cosmology it looks like they were teaching

450
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:27,200
cosmology language ended up being ends up being a key to try this the forward to the later

451
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:34,560
traditions the entry point I found to it was archaic Egyptian words for what looked like

452
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,560
instructional sanctuaries there's a term that's the name for that region of Turkey where go back

453
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:47,600
to tepe is found that pronounced get pet chi and that's an archaic pronunciation of the term

454
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,960
there are a number of other names that look like instructional sanctuaries the reason I say it

455
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,000
looks like the word looks like the name of an instructional sanctuaries because the word begins with

456
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,720
the picture of a little shrine and it ends with a symbol that looks like a picture of mountains

457
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:08,080
and in between are other glyphs and the other glyphs in between are typically formulated in

458
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:15,200
three phases and the three phonetic values represent they can represent the names of three deities

459
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:23,440
often they'll that represent the names of three astronaut bodies there's a second name like that

460
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:31,440
that's pronounced Gannu saw asked again that's the archaic pronunciation of these glyphs what I mean by

461
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:39,920
that is in the Egyptian hybrid living language and archaic view of a symbol pronounced

462
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,960
a particular way but a more modernized view I pronounce it a different way so the word get

463
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:54,160
of get pet chi in a little pronunciation is het and het is a word for temple it's a word for

464
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:03,040
shrine so the key that let me tide this to forward to literature traditions what came from out of

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00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,080
that word I can see that get pet chi could have survived in Turkey as go back to the

466
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:15,760
and I saw that Gannu saw in the second name could have survived India as Ganesha I could also see

467
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:24,240
that if I modernized the pronunciation of the second name it was pronounced het penu saw asked

468
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:37,360
now saw I know is a word for a lion asked is a name for ISIS mysterious penu is a name I don't recognize

469
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,680
why I didn't know where paid the word penu came from I just knew the word was pronounced that way

470
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:49,760
well I know from a cosmological point of view that there is a nastronom of body out in space

471
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:58,160
that is paired with it or actually put in a triad with Orion and Sirius it's a spiral

472
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:05,360
a spiraling birthplace of stars called Barnard's Loop now the official description of Barnard's Loop

473
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:11,840
is that it's a stellar bubble and its definition is a match for how the doggan described

474
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:18,240
their egg of the world the doggan say that these are the two structures by which we can correlate

475
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:24,400
processes that happen above the processes that happen below the macrocosm of the universe as

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00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:31,920
opposed to the microcosm of banner so Painu from my point of view probably represented Barnard's Loop

477
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:41,120
I started doing research and discovered that there were two goddesses our cake goddesses in India

478
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:47,600
called Dharney Painu and Tana Painu who were the considered to be the mothers of Ganesha

479
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:55,280
and that their cult which is called the Shakti cult dates back farther than there are any records

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00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:01,760
it dates back as far as anybody can't even imagine and it originated to the west and north of

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00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:11,920
India in the direction of go back to the topic that cult has as their iconic objects all of the

482
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,800
same things we find that go back to the topic they're characterized by standing stones and standing

483
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,640
pillars and circles of stone pillars that usually surrounded a wooden stupa that would have

484
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,800
deteriorated if there had been one that go back to the topic and they also were characterized by

485
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:36,080
a kind of a pottery a clay pot that was filled with water to represent a womb that was called a potbelly

486
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,200
which is ties back to the translation of go back to the go back to the topic the tradition

487
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,600
translation is potbelly hill nobody explains what potbelly means but it's one of the symbols that

488
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:54,480
ties us to this Shakti cult what I do in the latest book is I demonstrate how that tradition ties

489
00:54:54,560 --> 00:55:02,720
forward linguistically and symbolically and even historically to later cultures it's understood that

490
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:08,400
it was ancestral to the Vedic and Buddhist and Hindu traditions in India so I didn't have to prove that

491
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:16,000
but I demonstrate that there are references in Egypt around 4,000 BC down at elephant's team

492
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,640
and I learned that who symbolism rests on the concept of an elephant like Ganesha

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00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:30,080
it ties in around 4,000 BC in Egypt it ties directly to the doven symbolism and to doven words that are

494
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:39,120
not Egyptian words the symbolism of Ganesha the elephant ties directly to doven concepts of how

495
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:46,400
that egg of the world is created and there's a long article by a scholar named Phyllis Granoff from Yale

496
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:53,120
who discusses these eight incarnations of Ganesha she knows from her sources that they represent

497
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:59,680
C2 sequential stages of creation and she can describe the she can she presents the words that

498
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:06,640
they used to describe these stages and she has certain attributes about each stage but she does not

499
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:13,280
anything connected to as it turns out it ties directly to doven words and doven concepts and doven

500
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:19,840
drawings and in the book I set out a series of stages of creation as the doven draw them and they

501
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:27,520
tie right back to these eight stages of incarnations of Ganesha the doven egg of the world that

502
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:36,320
this ties to is called the Po Pilo the word Pilo the Turkish word Pilo and the Tamil word

503
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:50,160
Pilo Pilo mean white sun and elephant Ganesha was the sun of saati who was given the head of a

504
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:58,720
white elephant the doven word Pilo mean twight so we have language that that can specifically

505
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:06,160
tie these things together now to give you a book overview of what my books are we're not

506
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,920
really here to sell books we only brought books in case someone wanted one we won't be disappointed

507
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:18,640
if somebody doesn't buy one if we have some leftover works they planning to leave some here

508
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:25,280
so the science of the doven is the book that talks about structure of matter it compares the

509
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,200
doven system of matter sort of side by side with modern descriptions and modern drawings and

510
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,960
sort of demonstrates a match this is all material that you can't prove it doesn't lend itself to

511
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:44,160
scientific proof to five decimal positions the best we can do is demonstrate that two things are

512
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,360
match and in the case of the structure of matter we have an intuitive match all the way up the scale

513
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,280
from waves to Adam and this book presents that the second book called sacred symbols of the

514
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:03,440
doga is more about language it makes comparisons between the doven symbols and the Egyptian symbols

515
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:11,920
it lays out an initial view of in the doven system because there was no no system of writing

516
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:19,840
everything was spoken what this me implies is that the phonetic values that relate to the

517
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:26,480
Egyptian lifts have meaning unto themselves that if you hear an Egyptian word you should be able to

518
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:34,080
sort out what it probably means based on how it's pronounced in all areas of Egyptian study and

519
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:41,840
doven study it's understood that by the priest that the way it word is pronounced is crucial

520
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:49,680
to his meaning so in this book among other things what I do is I lay out an entire structure of

521
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:57,280
matter from waves to Adam using four comparative columns on the on the far column our Egyptian

522
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:03,600
lifts that define each stage of it for example the lift that's the symbol of the done beetle

523
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:10,800
represents the process of non-existence coming into existence had just to file these things by

524
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:18,800
comparisons between the various groups another column is the phonetic values that goes with the

525
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:26,880
glyph a third column is the name of an Egyptian deity that was pronounced that same way according

526
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:34,800
that same phonetic value and the fourth column is the traditional mythical role of the deity

527
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:41,520
in Egyptian culture which supports the stage of matter that I say is being created we talk about

528
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:48,960
Neath Weaves matter the phonetic value of her name says that and we can we endemonstrate it with glyphs

529
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:58,000
so the second book is primarily about language the third book this is really not my title

530
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00:02,960
this is the publisher's title all of these are I call the first book in meanings I call the second

531
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:10,960
book deeper meanings every author is the is the victim of a publisher who wants to position his book

532
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:17,360
in the marketplace in some particular way that's sort of where these titles came from I can't blame them

533
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:24,400
for wanting to do that but I end up having to live with title this book essentially what I do

534
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:31,360
is based on the Buddhist and the dog and the Egyptians I lay out what I consider to be signatures

535
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:39,520
of this ancient tradition and what I mean by that is symbols or rituals or practices that

536
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:45,760
if you find them in a culture that you haven't studied before are a real good indication that they

537
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,200
were influenced by the same system of cosmology for example if a culture uses cubits

538
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,720
from my point of view it's absolutely certainly were influenced by this this tradition

539
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:03,120
so I firstly out this series of what the what I consider these signatures to be

540
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:09,840
and I use them as a prediction for what I'm going to find when I explore a Tibetan culture

541
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:15,680
from the border land between Tibet and China called the Naki now the name of the Naki is actually

542
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,840
represents one of those signatures I didn't realize at the time there's a naming convention for the

543
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:32,080
tribes that had these this cosmology in the pre-dynastic tribe before Egypt to refer to as the

544
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:40,960
Amazigi, Amaz the name of a creator god, Ziggy is an Egyptian word, Sakai and it survives in the

545
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:48,480
dog and culture as Ziggy it means to celebrate and so the name of the tribe says celebrate Amaz the

546
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:57,600
Naki or the Naki in Tibet, Naha is the name of the mother goddess and the Xie or key is another

547
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:05,920
version of this Sakai that means to celebrate so this is if the each tribe had the equivalent of a

548
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,880
major in college you know they focused on a particular aspect of this creation they were responsible

549
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:20,400
for sustaining that in Egypt the name was Mirah it means Love's Raw in Judaism it was Yahudah which means

550
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:27,360
praises ya and you can go all around the world and find these ancient tribes and the naming

551
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:34,320
convention of the tribe tells you first that they had the tradition and it identifies in that way and it

552
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:40,640
also gives you a clue as to what they were primarily concerned about. One of the signatures of the

553
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:50,480
tradition is circumcision and the reason the circumcision is is what it is it, reason it happens the way it

554
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:57,520
happens is it's creating a symbolic shape it happens to be the first shape that appears according to

555
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,120
all three of those creation themes it's the first coherent shape that appears that you can recognize

556
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:09,600
in those processes of creation it's the the image of a DNA molecule if you look at it from a top down

557
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:16,800
it's the shape the gravity creates when it emerges as matter forms it's the first coherent shape

558
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:24,320
that was created when the universe after the in the universe after the big bang so when a person is

559
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:32,640
being circumcised they're being connected to this creation tradition the organ of creation is being

560
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:40,960
assigned the symbol that represents creation so I use these signatures of the tradition to predict what

561
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:47,920
I was going to find when I studied the naki and then I go through a perceived to study the naki and explain

562
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:54,000
how those traditions play out in terms of naki language and naki daily life and so forth

563
01:03:54,640 --> 01:04:00,080
naki language ended up being a predecessor of the Chinese language and that brought me into the

564
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:06,240
the Chinese book Chinese cosmological prehistory I already talked a little bit about this

565
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:12,480
the lack of evidence and how in this book I try to learn more about ancient Chinese traditions

566
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:18,320
by comparing the words and the practices to the traditions of the other cultures I have a basis for

567
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:24,320
doing that because I've demonstrated that it's the same system the most recent book is called

568
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:31,840
Point of Origin and this one is in ball with the idea of tracking go back the tap A forward to the

569
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:38,320
other literature traditions this is the the place where it looks like all of those cultures had in common

570
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:46,320
if it is if this was a place where they were teaching stone masonry and people from all over the world let

571
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:52,400
let's presume that whoever understood the structure of matter was globally capable I think it's a

572
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,800
reasonable assumption that they understood the structure of matter they didn't have a problem moving around the globe

573
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,240
then it's possible that people were brought here from all over the world taught stone masonry and

574
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:07,440
send back to home and now what we see a thousand of years later is all these commonalities

575
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:15,520
and stone masonry around the world we can't explain so anyway that's that's pretty much the

576
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:22,320
the upshot of of my work there's an additional book that I haven't talked about that's on a

577
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:28,560
a related but a different subject it's called the Velocoski heresies it's about a man named

578
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Emmanuel Velocoski who was a friend of Einstein's who wrote a book at an enormously controversial

579
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:43,360
book back in 1950 called Worlds in collision right it's a very controversial theory about the origin

580
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:50,320
of the planet Venus based on ancient references Velocoski argues that Venus can't be billions of

581
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:58,880
years old it must be only a few thousand years old has it turns out well I had had always had it in the

582
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:04,400
back by mind to write that book because I thought with 60 years of additional science having been done

583
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:11,200
surely somebody can find a fact to point to that insist that Velocoski must have been wrong

584
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:17,680
or that argues that he's probably was right and so that was sort of my question this book now I

585
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:26,480
I didn't actually get to a fact that absolutely tips the controversy but along the way I showed that

586
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:35,280
at every stage of his scenario for how Venus was created if Velocoski's right you have a handful of

587
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,720
concerns that evaporate if he's wrong you've got these handful of concerns that need

588
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:47,520
special explanation by the by the astronomers if he's right at every stage of the scenario this

589
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:55,360
handful of concerns disappear to me that's the hallmark of a theory that's probably right meanwhile

590
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:03,360
the current working theory for how planets form based on studies of the exosolar systems that we've

591
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:09,440
been done I have a friend named Jeff Marcy who leads Berkeley's search for earth-like planets

592
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:16,400
the leading theories now for how planets form conflathely contradict the theories that you were taught

593
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:23,680
in school the accretion method of planets forming or the idea that you know droplets were sort of

594
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:29,440
drawn off from a sun by a passing body that coalesced in the planets those theories don't hold

595
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:38,800
water anymore the working theory now is that gas giants form first in the first 10 million years

596
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:45,840
and then collisions cause smaller rocket planets so far that's almost precisely the theory that

597
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Velocoski presented for how Venus formed if it's true then it doesn't have to have happened

598
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:58,000
the interviews ago it could happen tomorrow so that's the the sixth published book

599
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:04,560
anyway I guess at this point that's the overview of what my work has been I'd be happy to answer

600
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:16,320
questions if anybody has them okay here I do I need to use the microphone to

601
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:22,960
this I came in a little bit later did you talk about the meaning of the word dog on

602
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,840
no I didn't I'll talk about the meaning of the word dog on no no I'll do that here

603
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:38,400
the word dog in itself means to complete the words

604
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:45,120
or can also mean to remain silent these are the two obligations of an initiate in the

605
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:52,480
dove and tradition has it turns out an hl word regiept cam also means to bring the

606
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:57,600
completion or a true main silent so that's another another connecting piece between the

607
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,560
dove and in the Egyptians right

608
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:10,560
because I was going to say the word dog reversal god yes yeah and then I was thinking about each other

609
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:16,640
the point of origin um oh no so the dog can't be gods and agents right that's right yeah

610
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:22,640
so that's a good point too yeah and then just the point of origin I'm thinking like you know the

611
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:29,200
story about land and stuff besides they're just being these people beings from other dimensions

612
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,960
or whatever and some of them I've heard you know you maybe use to be with these others you were

613
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,840
the idea that all these cultures really originated in one place too that could also be another thing

614
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:44,480
that's alongside this commonality yes sort of

615
01:09:52,800 --> 01:10:01,360
first the suggestion and the ancient there are ancient philosophies that underlie this tradition

616
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,520
and in those philosophies those philosophies actually happened to be atheistic philosophies

617
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,800
they spawned other philosophies that were not in the crux of the question of whether there's a

618
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:21,040
god or not in these philosophies rests on whether you need an intelligence to perceive the first thing

619
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:25,680
in order to get these processes started everything gets created based on an active perception

620
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:33,680
so in the the philosophies that that underlie the work that I've been doing

621
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:40,880
there are look is no that you don't need an independent intelligence to perceive it you

622
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,600
but you need that self-proceiving intelligence that's this little tricky to explain

623
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:53,840
it comes down to dogan numerology in dogan numerology four is the number of the male

624
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,920
three is the number of the female seven is the number of the individual

625
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:06,240
our mature universe is the fourth of seven universes four is its number and there are lots of

626
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:14,640
different ways of four ends up being its number um and it's also associated with a masculine

627
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:21,440
energy the non-metriol side is associated with a feminine energy the implication is its number is three

628
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:30,880
three and four together imply an individual and so the suggestion is that the pair of

629
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:40,800
universes represent a correlate to an individual it's a single intelligence that on the material side

630
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:50,080
matter represents subdivisions of a grand source in the same way that consciousness represents

631
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:58,320
subdivisions of a grand source and so from that perspective when a person dies there's no concept

632
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:04,320
of reincarnation in the dogan culture the only explicitly the only concept of reincarnation they've

633
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:15,040
got ties to genetics that a person is recreated in their offspring through genetics but the idea is

634
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:20,400
that just as a particle of matter you can't destroy energy the words that happens is that

635
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:28,080
returns back to this source way of waves that creates particles same thing with consciousness so

636
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:33,920
the idea at the bottom is that this individual was self-perceiving was able to be self-preceiving

637
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:40,720
and that's what started the processes happening now talking about the word dog and dogan

638
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:50,320
um I had mentioned about four stage metaphors that help us understand symbols one of those metaphors

639
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:57,040
is given in terms of the animal kingdom it begins with insects it goes to fishes or to fish

640
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:05,440
then it moves to four leg of the animals and then it moves to birds what this mean implies is that

641
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:13,600
the Egyptian god kipper who is the done beetle is an insect representing the process of

642
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:19,120
non-existence coming into existence we can tell by the fact that he has the ahead of an insect

643
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,200
based on this metaphor that he belongs at the beginning stages of creation not the end

644
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:30,000
thought who's the birdhead of god represents the word the finished word that's a final stage of

645
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:38,000
creation so we can tell by the animal heads that the Egyptian gods have where their symbolism falls

646
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,160
along that continuum we can place them in the right quadrant before we know anything about them what

647
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:49,040
kind of head do they have now in India similar thing happened every god or goddess had an animal avatar

648
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:55,600
who even though there were thousands of surrogate goddesses for the same goddess you can tell by

649
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:03,440
what animals she's associated with what concepts you really represents now when it came down to the

650
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:09,600
teachers the dog and teachers the dog and had the presence of mind to ask their teachers are you

651
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:17,280
god and the teacher said no we're not god if you want to you can think of us as agents of god but we're not god

652
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:24,320
but they were in front of that they used that animal metaphor to put things in perspective for us

653
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:32,880
they defined themselves as the nomenal side which is symbolically associated with serious

654
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:41,440
they defined themselves as the dog star that says we're not the best there is

655
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,960
we're working with the equivalent to a four-legged animal we're the third stage on that animal

656
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:52,960
metaphor we're not the fourth stage of birds they defined the earth as being the planet of the fishes

657
01:14:53,920 --> 01:15:00,480
basically saying you're not the least advanced creatures we know you're part we have the scale

658
01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:07,040
it's our core things in perspective so the word dog and and the word the concept of the dog and the

659
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:14,880
concept of dog star all the stuff comes together in terms of these metaphors of of where do things fall

660
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,880
symbolically

661
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:27,360
I'm just curious that the dog never mentioned why their teachers gave them all the scientific

662
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:37,040
information yes yes they don't do anything with it yes yes they did according to the dog and

663
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:44,240
the underlying philosophy of the tradition there are two purposes here the first purpose is

664
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:50,160
to make us aware of what our true relationship is to the larger processes of creation

665
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:57,120
okay from the modern perspective humanity is the end all of all processes of creation

666
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:05,600
where the top of the chain that promotes a certain perspective among us has to what our role is in

667
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:14,560
relation to the rest of nature with a true understanding of the way the processes work we realize

668
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,360
that we're only another step along that chain there are the chain continues up beyond us to

669
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,760
Barnard's loop into places like that we're nowhere near the top of that we're just another step

670
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:30,080
along the chain and looked at in that way our whole orientation to how we ought to behave in relation

671
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:35,120
to those processes changes okay the the second piece is the second purpose is

672
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:43,600
you're expected the hope is that having this knowledge that we will develop what is referred to

673
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:51,920
as discriminating knowledge in other words that's the ability to comparable to looking at the

674
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:56,320
Egyptian hyperglytic language and saying this can't possibly be phonetic if they're Germany lives

675
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:04,400
they want us to do that in relation to the world around us the creation around us and so forth

676
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:11,440
it's the hope that they will encourage us to develop a questioning and a discriminating knowledge

677
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,400
who's

678
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:30,160
my head is completely spinning can you it's been a part of that the the unseen energy

679
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:38,640
this energy was where came when you said it wasn't necessarily alien but it's unseen and also

680
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:47,680
about the unseen twin planet or universe universe okay

681
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,720
I'm sorry

682
01:17:54,720 --> 01:18:00,560
one of the principles fundamental principles of this system of creation

683
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:12,400
is that the universe rests on duality and the pairing of opposites that's a fundamental principle

684
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:20,160
now occasionally they hit upon a stage in the process whether it's in duality for example

685
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:25,920
you only need to sing lack the perception to make a wave turn into a particle how do you explain that

686
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,440
if you're promoting a system that's based on dualism how do you explain that

687
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:35,440
well at Egypt they explained it bit by saying that the creator god masturbated

688
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,920
he performed a sexual act that only involved one parter

689
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:48,160
it's some culture say that they define an act of insist they define a creative act that's abnormal

690
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:53,200
it's outside the norm the expected norm has a way of representing that

691
01:18:53,280 --> 01:19:00,400
exceptional process that isn't dual okay creation that principle applies to

692
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,440
universes too from their perspective

693
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:14,080
universes form in pairs are universe also formed as a pair the non material side can see us we can't see

694
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:21,200
them that's what the dog and masks are about it symbolizes the idea that from the non material side

695
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:27,920
they can see us we can't see them but there's a problem because the fundamental difference between

696
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:35,920
the two universes rests with the concept of duration of time if you think about Einstein the idea that

697
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:42,240
if you had a team of astronauts flying very close to the speed of light for a long period of time

698
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:47,520
the time would slow down for them they've actually measured the spectrum time slows down as you accelerate

699
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:54,000
and acceleration is quite quitted to mass increased mass

700
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:01,360
does you move down the scale for very massive things to vary non-massive things and the

701
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:08,720
non-material side is an absence of mass if time frames slows down on as you get more massive

702
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,920
time frames speeds up as you get less massive that's partly why things look random to us

703
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,880
when we look at small particles of matter is because we don't have tools refined enough to

704
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:24,480
measure something that happens that quickly so on the non material side they have

705
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:31,200
perfect knowledge but no opportunity that because they don't have duration of time

706
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,680
on the material side we have imperfect knowledge but complete freedom of act

707
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:45,120
and so in these philosophies that underwired the tradition it's understood that there's

708
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:50,400
some of a game going on between the non material side and the material side I compare it to playing a

709
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:58,880
game of shareds or the game of password of the key-be game the idea is that from the non material side they can

710
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:07,600
perform a minor act or communicate a minor image a single image or a single thought or I mean

711
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:13,840
depending on who the person is it might be more or less complex but they can as in

712
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:22,000
it trades they can give a clue trying to a vocal response and the person will either pay attention to

713
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:28,960
the clue where they want and the clues can come in dreams they can come in the behavioral

714
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:36,320
behavioral animals it can come in what we perceive as coincidences or if we notice them might not

715
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:42,240
perceive as coincidences there are a number of different ways that these attempts are made to

716
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:47,200
pass this clue to us that we might or might not respond to to get us to do a particular thing

717
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:57,680
that the interface between the non material and the material side is characterized as an embrace

718
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,760
now unfortunately back at the time we go back to the topic whoever was creating the symbols

719
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:11,680
doesn't seem to be very practiced at it on one of those pillars there are two carved arms

720
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:16,640
that emerge out of the side of the pillar run down the sides of the pillar and end in hands

721
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:22,960
that wrap around the end of the pillar at the end at first I thought that represented the concept

722
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:28,720
of duality because I know that's a principle of creation it wasn't until I realized that one of

723
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:35,040
the Egyptian words for pillar is pronounced like the word embrace that I realized that what they

724
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,800
might be communicating there is the image you're trying to communicate is the image of an embrace

725
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:44,640
although they didn't have the practice to be able to make it cozy and comfy it was this is a very

726
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:50,240
harsh image of an embrace I then looked at the Egyptian words for embrace and discovered

727
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:56,880
that every phase of this whole created process there are words that also mean embrace even

728
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:02,400
that into the godama bogan godama to grasp or hold firm is the definition of an embrace

729
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:10,560
that embrace is embodied by this little spiral that creates matter because that spiral

730
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:17,360
isn't just a spiral of mass it's a spiral that wraps around light non-material essence

731
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:24,000
and the difference the fundamental difference between the non-material and the material universe

732
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:30,640
I compare to structurally I compare it to sushi there are two kinds of sushi one where the seaweed

733
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,520
wraps around the outside of the rice and one where the seaweed wraps around the inside that's the

734
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:45,840
difference so the idea is that that non-material realm is intimately connected with what supposedly

735
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:52,720
what is going on here it's not interpreted on a religious level it's interpreted on a functional level

736
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,520
yeah that's all

737
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:19,680
so they see them and also you know you said that they would hurt people or who be negative

738
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,880
because of them to be around and what I do those people who are talking about the day like

739
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:27,360
suddenly die after they gave you knowledge because they want us to be around them and

740
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,360
did they say they'd come back?

741
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:45,120
because the doggans teaches were concerned about that effect that implies that there was a physical

742
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,120
emanation of whoever this was it wasn't just internal dialogue

743
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,360
to actually present there are descriptions in

744
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,440
actually the Old Testament of

745
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:06,240
God appearing on the mountain to the Israelites and their questions that are laid out when God

746
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:12,080
appears about how far away from the mountain the Israelites need to stay and there's a description

747
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:17,600
of a glow of light and there's certain things that tie into the things I study that make me think that

748
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:24,080
this is an example of the same of the same situation where can't get too close or it's dangerous there

749
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,480
or I think it's a luck for magnetic effects that are a problem there's no mention in the dove

750
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:36,080
in tradition of these any bad effects ultimately on these ancestors I don't know what precautions

751
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,520
might have been taken at the time they were actually taught those are all questions like I'll

752
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:43,040
only imagine not I don't have any firm information about

753
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:50,960
they say they come back anytime no there the the promise to come back is really a later

754
01:25:51,600 --> 01:26:00,000
is is characteristic of later traditions um there are again signature attributes of these

755
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:05,600
of the eras of this tradition that can sort of point you to quick the word things came from

756
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:10,320
if a culture celebrates a mother goddess for my point of view it happened before

757
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:19,440
3000 BC or 4200 BC around 2600 BC they're starting to be reversals and symbolism that cross

758
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:26,960
cultures that shouldn't I mean you shouldn't have goddesses being superseded by God and every

759
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:33,680
culture around the world at the same time there are other changes in symbolism that happen for

760
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:41,840
example the myth in which ganache has given his elephants head the word painoo that relates to ganache

761
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,960
is an Egyptian word that means mouse refers to a shrew mouse there's all sorts of

762
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:53,760
mouse symbolism that associates with ganache originally it looks like the symbolism that spiral

763
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,800
Barnard's hooves spiral or the tiny spiral of matter was to a curling of a mouse's tail

764
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:06,000
around 2600 BC somebody figured out that that's not intuitive

765
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,320
that if we're talking about a structure that's a big structure like Barnard's loop

766
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:16,480
that you need to associate it with something big like the trunk of a big elephant not like a tiny mouse

767
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:21,200
so there are all these little tweaks that happen around 2600 BC actually starting about 30

768
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:27,200
200 BC and so are moving on from there anything that talks about

769
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:33,760
supplication or prayer comes out of a later tradition and the early traditions there are no

770
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:40,880
deities worshiped there's no idea of prayer there's the idea of of celebrating a God not worshiping them

771
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,920
in the original version of it you're not even they don't even make iconic images of God

772
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,280
you don't see an anthropomorphized image of a deity

773
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:56,960
it's all given as basically a geometry it's all expressed as geometry so if a culture primarily

774
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:02,080
were worshiped a male God you know they come out of the later era of the of the tradition if they

775
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:08,320
worshiped regardless it's the earlier and all the way along there signatures like that that

776
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:13,760
that point to where did this likely come from you get down to the Mallory in New Zealand and they

777
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:19,840
have remnants of every era they have things that tie back to go back to the tapioid they have things

778
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:25,600
that tie to a book I'm publishing on northern Scotland they've got things that tie to

779
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:32,880
dynastic Egypt to later Egypt to the dove and to the Buddhists actually not to the Buddhists

780
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:40,960
to the the Shakti Kautta preceded Buddhism and Dr. one of the mysteries about the Mauri is how come

781
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,040
they have a lot of the Buddhist concepts you don't have any of the Buddhist trappings

782
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:53,760
they're ancient and scientific too not well known yes yes there there are and they are of a

783
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,960
type that's more consistent with the very archaic tradition not the bitta ones they're unmarked

784
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:05,360
standing stones and things like that like like stone and so I think we've got time for like maybe one

785
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:12,640
okay who hasn't had a chance to ask a question that might have one if not I'll give it a hand

786
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,840
good the time it just on

787
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:25,440
I just curious about the corruption of the data

788
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:32,240
corruption knowledge like we're saying in 2016 you see it's changed how impossible to dare

789
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:39,040
everyone keep their knowledge clear and not just have it just kind of get eroded and you just

790
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:51,440
appear that you know all the different cultures no in in most cultures did get corrupted in

791
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:59,200
most cultures didn't manage to preserve it in the case of the dove and the way they kept it

792
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:04,000
for being corrupted was it they're whole the whole fabric of their society was built on this

793
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:10,080
that every animal they saw when I stepped out of their hot had symbolism at that if you saw a rabbit

794
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,200
the twitching of a rabbit represented vibrations

795
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,880
as I said the way they wore the cloth or the way they thought a field had symbolism to it

796
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:26,880
symbolism that was carried in words symbolism was carried in the physical acts of what they did

797
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:33,120
symbolism that was reinforced by myths symbolism that was reinforced by the way they built their houses

798
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:39,040
I was asked about a year ago a question by a friend in Australia

799
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:46,080
just an email contact I don't really know him I'm never met him but he wanted to know he said

800
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:52,320
there's this side in northern Scotland called Scarabrey nobody knows it's a neolithic side that

801
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:58,000
dates from around 3200 BC nobody knows who the people were who were there they don't know what they were

802
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:04,320
doing there the language doesn't tie to anything in Scandinavia the architectural forms don't tie to

803
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:10,720
anything in Scandinavia the podry doesn't tie did I think there could be Egyptian influences in

804
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:19,040
at Scarabrey at 3200 I thought I don't know anything about northern Scotland or Scarabrey but I have learned

805
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:25,200
over time that when someone asked me a question I needed to pay attention to it talking about

806
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:32,320
the way information comes anybody who writes about the subjects that I've talked to has had

807
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:38,400
very odd things happen the first thing you learn is there are things going on that we can't explain

808
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:44,000
sometimes they're very tangible sometimes they're not like we simply literally are going to be

809
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:48,320
some examples but in this case I knew I needed to pay attention to this question so

810
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:55,440
based on 3200 BC that's the era that I think the dogan were Egyptians and I know the dogan

811
01:31:55,440 --> 01:32:02,320
have done a really good job of preserving their traditions we can prove they preserved the cosmology

812
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:07,600
because it matches the Buddhist cosmology in the entirely different language it's not likely one

813
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:14,000
got it from the other they both in modern times you can pair the modern dogan definitions

814
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,560
of the modern Buddhist definitions in their match that doesn't happen unless they both kept

815
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:26,240
in the street so that's the demonstration that they did keep it straight now when it came to Scarabrey

816
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:34,880
when I realized that the dogan were probably Egyptian at 3200 BC it occurred to me that I might be able

817
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:39,920
to find some commonalities between northern Scotland and the dogan if there were the word

818
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:46,320
Egyptian influences so I started looking there's not much look at it Scarabrey there are a bunch of stone houses

819
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:52,240
there are some a series of megalithic structures they built the nobody will find those why they built them

820
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:59,200
so I started looking at the houses the original houses that were there were built with some

821
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:05,360
unique features one of the things was they had around room on the end that's described as sort of a

822
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:11,520
be high shape they don't know why it was there there are too long rectangular rooms on the side

823
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,880
that they think were bedroom areas of storage areas there was a central area that was sort of the

824
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:21,760
body of the house there was a heart the square heart in the center and there was a doorway at the bottom

825
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:28,400
I did some research in dogan culture the dogan living in the desert they built mostly from mud

826
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:33,680
the turns out they knew location they built stone houses and when they built them they built them

827
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:41,040
according to that same plan and the plan has meaning has cosmological meaning this structure represents

828
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:48,560
the body of a sleeping goddess one of the metaphors for the creation of matter is the idea of a goddess

829
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:56,560
awakening and yah the Hebrew god represents the globe light that precedes the rising sun and dawn

830
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:04,800
the causes are going to rise okay knowing there was cosmology associated with the architecture

831
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:11,360
convinced me that they had to have the same cosmology and so I picked up the language that

832
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:17,280
language is called a ferro-wese language nobody knows where it came from but the words are

833
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:22,880
dogan Egyptian words you go to the site on the island the can explain why was this place named this

834
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,880
you go to the dogan Egyptian dictionary and it pops right out it was named that because of a

835
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:31,600
reason for a reason because there was an inlet of water there that looked a certain way or whatever it

836
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:37,440
happened to be the megalithic sites the series of megalithic sites on the island were connected

837
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:44,640
in the neolithic time fire road that led to this little eight structured village the megalithic sites

838
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:52,400
represent succeeding stages of matter that lead to that eight clustered calabiesus space this was

839
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:58,880
a life size structure of matter that you could walk through this was an instructional sanctuary

840
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:05,440
now I had originally been looking at this I thought isn't it interesting that before diagnostic time

841
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:11,600
the Egyptians were able to mount a mission that far away from Egypt took construct these things how

842
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:19,200
could they do that there was a mystery because in the dogan house because they are in the desert

843
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:24,320
their house doesn't include the central heart and so I thought it's an interesting that in

844
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:31,280
set scare a brave when they in a cold climate when they added the heart they they maintained the

845
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:38,000
symbolism the heart went for the heart you go it then occurred to me that maybe I had things backwards

846
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:43,440
they didn't add the heart in the right place the dogan removed the heart the influence is

847
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:50,160
go the other direction and when I started looking at it from that perspective then I realized when

848
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:55,760
as you follow the structure of megalithic sites to the little clustered village in the dogan

849
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:01,440
conception there's an additional stage of creation that happens that's what I was I had a slide

850
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:08,000
about it it's called the background field the particle where particles form the dogan symbolized that

851
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:13,520
with an agricultural field it's it's the field of their their highest priest who's called the

852
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:21,440
arrow priest and every year before they plant their seeds they create a cosmological drawing it's

853
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:27,200
about drawing in this field of the arrow priest that represents vibrations of matter so

854
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:35,280
knowing this is your 3200 BC I thought well if the dogan origins then then the Egyptians might

855
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:41,680
have a similar concept this field of the arrow priest I went to Egypt and discovered they had a

856
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:49,120
term called second arrow second is a term for the spiral that those megalithic structures represent

857
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:59,520
and arrow but it also means means field and arrow means reads it's the field of reads in Egypt

858
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:05,440
this is the concept of the underworld the afterlife it's survived in in Greek times as the

859
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:13,520
elision fields now what's interesting is for the dogan this field is a cosmological concept but

860
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:21,760
it's also a real world physical field that they cultivate in Egypt it's described as an

861
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:27,760
sort of an imagined afterlife but it's also described a very concrete term as a field of the

862
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:35,120
pharaoh who dies as to work we get to Greek they talk about where this field is located and

863
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:41,120
they all the descriptions they give the physical descriptions are applicable to orkne island where

864
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:51,120
Scarborough is down to referring to it by ok orkne island it had several ancient names the Greeks

865
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:58,880
refer to it as okkneos so even the linguistics of the name ties ties to the island so

866
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:05,280
it's really interesting one of the things that convinced me of is that like Schliemann and Troy

867
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:11,120
where he followed the Greek geographical descriptions to find the real historical side of Troy

868
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:16,480
this demonstrates to me that you can trust these Greek descriptions they've got it right they're

869
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:22,240
telling you the truth that implies that when they talk about things like an art academy like

870
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:27,840
an Atlantis that they might also have been telling us the truth I mean if I had a child who had

871
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,400
never lied to me and I came to a point where there was a question whether they were they weren't

872
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:38,800
my presumption would be that they weren't so I've got to presume that Atlantis is a true story

873
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:48,480
oh my god

874
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:02,880
my name is Jan Harzant I'm the executive director for move on we are a scientific research

875
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:08,000
organization that basically collect citing reports from the public and then goes and investigates them

876
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:15,120
our mission statement as an organization is the scientific study of UFOs for the benefit of humanity

877
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:20,720
and we have three primary goals we investigate UFO reports we promote research into the UFO

878
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:25,520
subject and we educate the public on our findings