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And so that's where a lot of my stuff is and it doesn't get updated too much lately, but
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there's more stuff coming in the next few years.
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So what we're going to talk about is the secret space program.
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What really is it?
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Well, it looks to me like it actually started back with some of the airships in the San
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Francisco Sacramento area back in the 1800s.
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There were Foo fighters, these very strange silvery orbs that were encountered by allied
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pilots over Germany, and they may have actually become Nazi flying saucers.
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So I started to dig into this stuff and thought, okay, what really is the evidence that any
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of these things are somehow connected?
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Well, back in the 1800s, there was a group of wealthy industrialists, people who had
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so much money at the time, they would be billionaires today.
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At the time, they were probably just multimillionaires, but they didn't have a lot to do with their
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money and they started digging into ancient Vedic texts and the maharatha, but I can't
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pronounce those words.
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But a lot of these texts that talk about Vamanas and stuff, and as you look at the Vamanas
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designs, how they're described, they're very similar to what later became the Nazi flying
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saucers.
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And as Joe Farrell, Joseph Farrell described it, an author that I really like, he said,
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what they were, were these wealthy industrialists who began to look at the ancient sacred texts
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through physicists eyes.
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And when they did that, they formed a secret society, which is just only now becoming
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known, and it was known as NIMSA, N-Y-M-Z-A.
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And some people think that that's German or Prussian for the National Exploratory Airship
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Program Office.
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And there were people that were involved, like Wilhelm Weber and Maximus von Eimhoff
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and various other scientists and researchers who were very famous mathematicians at the
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time.
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And these industrialists started bringing them in and asking them questions.
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And what do you know about this?
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And what does this seem like to you?
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Well, this was all happening in an area of Prussia, what is now Germany, Poland, I don't
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know, called Silesia.
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It's this sort of appendix area here in Germany.
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And it's, you know, it was German and then it was first it was Prussian, then it was
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German, then it was Russian, then it was Polish, then it was back to German in World War II.
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And it's gone back and forth in terms of people owning this area for a long time.
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And this is where many of them lived.
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And it is a fairly important aspect to this as we go through it.
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But I just wanted to point out it's here in what later became Germany.
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Now in 1830, a gentleman named Charles A.A. Delchow came to the United States.
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He was a Prussian.
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He was one of several Prussians who came to the United States from this area called Silesia.
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He arrived here, he immediately set out across the country, went from New York, got his
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papers, went to Chicago, went to Houston, Texas, and then he went to a place in California,
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which was called Sonora.
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Now Sonora is a small town about 140 miles east of Sacramento.
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And there are documents that have shown up talking about something called the Sonora
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Air Club.
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What the heck is the Sonora Air Club?
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Because this is 1830, 1840 at this point.
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There are no flying ships.
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There are a few hot air balloons, but they're uncontrollable and 90% of the time you die
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if you go up in it because you can't control the thing.
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It just flies into a tree and you burn up and that's that.
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But he came out through Prussia, into the US, went to Houston, and went to Sonora, and
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eventually came back to Houston where he retired.
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There are several other people that are mentioned or named in documents involving the Sonora
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Air Club.
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And one of them is Gustav Freyr and another guy named Freund.
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And nobody really knows who these people were, but we do know that there are graves in the
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Sonora area, which was a gold rush town that say SAC or Sonora Air Club.
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So we know that this air club existed and there's a few good articles online about it.
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Now one of the things Del Chow did that was really interesting was he liked to draw stuff.
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So it turns out that what he actually was was a draftsman or an engineer.
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Okay, now engineers, aerospace engineers, I was an aerospace engineer.
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And what he did was when he got back to Houston after 1850 and spent his later years, he made
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these huge folders full of images of designs for airships.
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They had cockpits, places where the crew would sit, they had all sorts of structural mechanical
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stuff, they had sort of a balloon area, they had all the things that you would need to
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actually create a flying airship.
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At the time, and this was all apparently constructed from his memories of what he worked on back
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in Sonora, California.
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Now, so since this guy was an engineer, here's what I think happened.
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I think that the NIMSA people said, okay, here's this concept, we want an airship.
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So they brought in the scientists, the scientists found the engineers, they hired these guys
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and they sent them out to California to work on designing flying craft, which at that time
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was the holy grail.
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There was nothing that could really fly.
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What strikes me about these is that when I first started in the aerospace industry,
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way back in a year, I don't even want to tell you, but Reagan wasn't president yet.
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They used to do what they call production illustrations.
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This is before they had 3D CAD engineering software where you could actually just build
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all the parts in 3D and make sure they fit together perfectly and measure them and all
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that stuff.
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What they used to do is they used to actually draw these things.
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They drew every piece, every nut, every bolt on the aircraft was drawn and shown.
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Looks like an Ikea diagram where it says stick this screw in here and then screw this thing
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on the end of it from an isometric angle, from a 3D perspective.
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And then they would go to the next level, which would be the wing being put together.
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And these were done by artists, people like Charles Delschalk, technical drawers, technical
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engineering artists.
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And as I looked at these things and looked at all these different designs, to me, I'm
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looking at production illustrations.
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I'm looking at primitive 1850s, 1860s, 1890s production illustrations done as watercolors.
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So what he's showing you here is all the stuff that he worked on, I think, when he was out
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there in Sonora, California.
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Here's an example of one with some crew members on board, some of them standing inside the
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craft, some of them outside the craft.
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And from an engineering perspective, I will just tell you that if you had some sort of
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lifting capability in these baffles here, these air pockets, these balloon parts, that
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would work.
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That thing would fly.
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And you could control it with propellers.
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You could control it directionally.
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So nobody knows when some of these were actually drawn, but if you notice, there's some other
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interesting stuff on it.
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Look at this up here.
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This is some kind of code that he put on there.
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And what do secret societies have?
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Notice again the 333 up here.
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Very Masonic, very hyperdimensional.
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If you've read my Mars books or Dark Mission, the number is 33333.
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Have to do with hyperdimensional geometry.
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Dimensions beyond three.
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And so the question is, what is all this stuff doing on here?
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Here's another example of some of the code that he wrote on there.
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And that really hasn't been deciphered, although this stuff, these documents have been in the
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hands of, again, some wealthy people today that have kept the collections and are trying
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to decipher what all this stuff means.
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Now after that, Del Chau in 1860 goes back to Houston.
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He moves in with his family who he'd left behind there, stays there for quite a while
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later and these pictures were later discovered.
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These paintings were discovered, you know, gosh, in the early 1900s when there was a
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house fire.
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But in 1896, something starts to happen in California.
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And what starts to happen is that strange craft, as you can see, this is an actual
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shot of the San Francisco Call of strange objects which are sighted flying around in
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the sky.
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They have propellers, they appear to have lights, they're floating.
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There is no technology at the time that really exists that could account for these vehicles
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flying around in the sky, but they claim they saw the occupants and heard them in conversation.
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So imagine if this object here was, you know, some variation of this one.
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Well, you might hear these guys talking if they were only a few hundred feet off the
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ground.
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And what I find fascinating about it is where it took place, which is, here's another shot
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of, from the Sacramento or the San Francisco Call of what it looked like.
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What's interesting about all these descriptions and what these vehicles were is that it started
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out in San Francisco, Sacramento area, right by Sonora, California, where they would have
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been building these things.
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Now what I think happened is that they went through and worked on these designs and tried
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to build them and eventually constructed it.
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And again, remember technology, it was not easy to get supplies 140 miles from Sacramento
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at that time.
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It was a train maybe that brought it there.
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But people, you know, it takes a long time to develop technology.
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We decided to build the new Orion space capsule in 2006.
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It's now 2017 and we haven't flown one yet.
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So Orion, you know, that's how long it takes us to develop a spacecraft now.
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Back then it took 30 or 40 years to really perfect a design and get something up in the
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air.
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So I think that what they did is they were actually building and working on these aircraft.
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Now, this series of sightings was so dramatic that people started saying, well, obviously
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somebody's up to this.
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Who's the most brilliant inventor in the world?
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And at the time, the most brilliant inventor of the world was Thomas Edison.
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So Edison was flat out accused of being the guy that was behind all of these airship sightings.
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And it got to be so bad that he actually went to the pages of the New York Times and he
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spoke to a reporter there and he said, I have nothing to do with these airships.
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They're not mine.
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I'm not involved with this and I find the idea silly.
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I don't know why anybody would even want to build an airship.
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I have nothing to do with it.
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He completely denied any involvement.
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And I honestly do not think he was involved because I think who was involved were the
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Prussians.
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Now, one of them in the Sonora Air Club, there's documents of this at one of the meetings.
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One of them, a guy named Freund came up and he said, I have discovered a gas with anti-gravity
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properties that can be the fuel and the lift for our craft.
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And he called it NB gas.
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Now, some people speculate it's helium.
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It might be.
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It might be something else.
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But basically he said, I have found something that has anti-gravity properties that will
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allow us to put these things in the air.
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And then after 20, 30 years of airframe development, guess what?
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They start coming up and appearing in the skies over the United States.
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So I think that Delchow's very exotic, interesting airship designs were actually created and
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built over time in the isolation of California.
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And again, a place like Sonora, California is a perfect place to develop some sort of
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new airframe or new aircraft design.
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That's why we have bases like Area 51 and Edwards out west because right now, even now,
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today, they're hardly populated.
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There's just not many people out in the west.
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And Germany, while it was less densely populated than it is today, was still very busy in
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Europe in the 1800s.
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Plus, you had all the wars.
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You had Napoleon.
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You had the German wars.
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You had all this stuff going back and forth.
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And at that time, America was a much safer place to develop this kind of technology.
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So to me, it makes complete sense you would go to California and do that.
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Now, as these sightings begin to progress back across the US, there were ones in Nebraska,
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New Mexico, Arizona.
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And the most famous one was in Aurora, Texas.
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And some of you may have heard about this, where basically a flying craft, which was
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not described as one of these airships, but more of a disk, a classic flying saucer, hit
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a windmill on a farm in Aurora, Texas, which is a very small town, and supposedly crashed.
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And the newspaper report said it was traveling 10 or 12 miles an hour, which was pretty fast
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at the time, actually, for an airship.
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But it says that the pilot of the ship was the only one who was supposed to have been
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on board.
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And while the remains are badly disfigured, enough of the original has been picked up
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to show that he was not an inhabitant of this world.
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So what does that mean?
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It means he was an alien.
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And there are other stories that are very bizarre that may be people making up fanciful
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hoaxes, but of these airships landing and seven-foot tall beings came out and tried
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to grab this guy and drag him away, but they were too weak to drag him into their ship,
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so he avoided being abducted.
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But it's pretty scary stuff when you actually read these newspaper accounts.
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So what happened then is that the residents of Aurora took all the wreckage that was
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left and they took the alien body and they gave it a Christian burial in the town cemetery.
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Older towns, you know, in those days, there was a town cemetery, there was one cemetery,
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and that's where everybody was buried.
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My dad grew up in a small coal mining town in Wyoming called Superior, which almost
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doesn't exist anymore, but my brother went back there and there's gravestones with my
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family name on their burial.
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Everybody who died in the town got buried in the town cemetery, and this alien apparently
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was part of it, although his grave was marked only with a cross.
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There was no name.
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Now this 1897 crash happened.
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In 1973, our buddies at MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network, decided to go investigate this
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story and they sent a couple guys, hi.
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They sent a couple guys to go investigate this particular story and they went there
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and they found the grave and they ran a metal detector over it and they got all kinds of
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metal feedback.
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So that part of the story was apparently true, that there was some sort of metallic substance
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underneath and I think they said it had a spectral characteristics of aluminum, which
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would mean it was an alloy of some kind.
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It was manufactured and not something we were really able to do in the late 1800s.
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But there was also a body there.
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And so they decided, well, we're going to try to dig this up.
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The residents of the town came out with their shotguns and their pitchforks and they said,
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what is there is meant to stay there and you are not going to disturb it.
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This was something that the residents of Aurora for over 70 years at that point had simply
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it was a town thing where nobody talks about that, nobody digs it up, nobody disturbs
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it.
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And they scared the Mufon guys off.
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About nine months later, they were able to convince them to let them come back.
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They came back, they went back to the same grave.
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The metal detectors found nothing.
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The grave had been disturbed and there was no body.
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There was no metal.
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There was no nothing.
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So most likely when this hit the papers, this Mufon thing did hit the papers.
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Most likely the government came out and dug it up and took away whatever was there.
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So that's one of the more interesting stories about that airship wave of sightings back
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in the late 1800s.
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Now again, if you look at Del Shals travels, he comes from Prussia, he arrives in New
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York, he goes to Chicago, he heads to Houston, he goes to Sonora and then the airship sightings
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are starting in the Sonora area back to like Aurora, Texas, Nebraska.
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It basically goes back east.
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They got as far east as Chicago and then the airship sightings kind of stopped.
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But I'm looking at this and I'm going, okay, the Prussians come out, they build these
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airships, it takes them 40 or 50 years to actually discover this anti-gravity gas thing
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and build their airships.
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And then what do they do?
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They fly them back to Prussia or back to Germany.
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And these things certainly would have been capable of flying across the Atlantic, at
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least on a calm day.
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They had enough propellers.
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What many of them were described as having propellers, steam-powered propeller engines.
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So that was what you use for the directional control.
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Now then the question is what happened?
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I assume they went back to Prussia.
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I can't prove it, but it's a fairly logical assumption that a bunch of Prussians, if they
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came out to California, formed an engineering club, built a bunch of experimental aircraft,
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finally perfected them and flew them back would probably fly them back to Prussia.
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That's just logically where I think they would have gone.
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What's interesting is that in the interwar period after that you had this mixture in
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Germany of the scientist and the mystic.
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Now we all think of the scientist, who are the most, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye
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the science guy, who's actually a comedian, but we won't get into that.
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They're like the faces of science.
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They're very strict and stringent and there's no mystical stuff, there's no magic in the
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world and then you have the mystics, the people that are at this conference, the folks
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out here that are using crystals to heal people and doing different kinds of experiments and
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trying all these different things.
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They used to be the same guy.
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In the village before the 1800s, the doctor, the scientist, the mystic were the same guy.
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They used all these different aspects to heal people and to experiment and to build weapons
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and all this stuff, but it's a really recent thing that people like Tesla and Merlin became
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separated.
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But in Germany, after World War I, when they would build zeppelins and they started to
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develop their own sort of experimental aircraft, this is again 15, 20 years after the airship
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siding wave, that began to break down.
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Now in the 1920s, what's interesting is that all you saw really in terms of airships were
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zeppelins and these types of cigar shaped UFOs that began to appear.
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The cigar shaped ones were really weird because they had no propellers and they had no visible
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means of control.
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They didn't have tails and rudders.
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They didn't have control surfaces.
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So how did they move around?
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Here's a couple of shots which may or may not be from that period or previous periods.
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I think you guys might have seen some of these.
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Just an example of cigar shaped craft.
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This is one from a bit later, but the cigar is a basic UFO shape that we've had since
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the beginning.
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Now of course, the zeppelin era ended with the Hindenburg in 1936 when we had the Hindenburg
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disaster.
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That was full of hydrogen, which is why it went up like this and a number of people died.
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But the Germans had been working on other technologies in the background and part of
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it was led by a group that was led by this woman named Maria Orsic.
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Now Maria was a mystic.
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She was a channeler.
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She was the head of what's known as the Vril Society.
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And Vril is this, if you guys have seen the Ancient Aliens episode on Vril, it's like
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this energetic force that you could use to channel and power energy.
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Kind of like what the emperor uses in Star Wars to zap the electricity out of his hands
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and stuff.
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It was basically control of energy, energetic matter.
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She also did a bunch of other stuff.
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She used to channel things, write them down with her left hand, close her eyes, go into
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a trance and write coded information, which she said was from aliens from Aldebaran, Star
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Aldebaran.
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Now, they had a lot of weird belief systems.
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This is a picture believed to be of Maria Orsic.
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One of the things that they believed, and yeah, there's a little bit of nudity in here.
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She had this incredibly long hair, which went all the way down almost to her ankles.
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They believed that the hair for women, that this long hair was a psychic antenna that
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would enhance your psychic capabilities.
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So if anybody in here has got some psychic abilities and you're female, grow your hair
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super long and see if you get better at it.
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That's what they believed.
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So she grew her hair to this incredible length.
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There were of course a lot of sex magic ritual stuff that was very popular in the 20s and
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30s.
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This is again one of the other very few pictures of Maria that's known to exist.
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There's this combination of the engineering knowledge of somebody like Delchow and Nimze
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and this mystical stuff that was created by the Germans in the 1920s and 30s.
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It's getting to the point where things like the Nazi salutes were meant to be energetic
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channeling types of, in other words, this certain pose is going to create more energy.
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And there are examples of how the chakras are aligned.
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And again, they believe that the Aryan woman in the nude was the most powerful amplifier
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for this stuff.
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So it sounds really wacky and weird, but as you go through it, I begin to notice some
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similarities.
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Some of this stuff on the right is a runic alphabet from the Nordic civilizations, the
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Vikings, the runes that they developed.
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And what Maria wrote in some of her channeling, and this is one example, was very similar
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to it.
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It had this weird sort of geometric structure to it as if the words and so forth that were
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being formed were part of some actual technical geometric engineering kind of thinking.
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And they also bear something of a resemblance to what Delchow created.
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So whatever was going on is they were using these different types of channels and information
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to work on physics problems.
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So the question is, then how were they, you know, what was the physics they were working
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on?
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Well, the Germans continued to be fascinated.
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Here's again, a complete runic alphabet.
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The Germans continued to be fascinated by these aspects of combining the mystical power
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of symbols and the mystical power of thought and prayer and the positioning and the actual
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physics of building aircraft, spacecraft and making physics work.
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Now, as an example, by the way, guys, it's really humid.
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I'm just going to take this if this is okay.
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It's like it's humid.
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This whole weekend has just been a sweat fest, really.
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Yeah, we got to get them to turn the air conditioning up next year.
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You know, as an example, I hope anybody's not, I mean, I'm flying home in a couple
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days.
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We really don't know why airplanes fly.
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You go, I've worked as an aerospace engineer, as a designer for many years, and there's
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a couple things we don't know.
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We don't know why aircraft structure fails.
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We only know if you build it this way with this thickness under this stress, it's not
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going to fail.
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That's all we know.
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It does ultimately crash or crumble or fail, which rarely if ever happens.
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We don't know why planes fly because when you do the lift calculations, there's five
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to seven percent of the lift that should be generated by the shape of the airframe
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and the air pressure differences and all that stuff.
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It's not there.
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So how do you get that last five or seven percent that pushes the airplane up in the
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air?
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And these are things that are actually written.
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I mean, I read that in these Boeing design manuals.
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Boeing used to put everything in a book like Delchow's books or, you know, and just tell
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you, you could basically take those books and figure out how to build an airplane from
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those books.
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And that, you know, they've done multiple tests over the years trying to nail it down
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and nobody has ever really been able to figure out what lift really is or how it really works.
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All we know is if we build a wing of a certain shape and we push the craft forward fast enough,
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it will lift up off the ground.
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Now I...
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Why should fireflies fly upside down?
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Yeah, and if you can fly upside down and you still have lift, how does that, you know,
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how does that work?
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And I think that's the question that comes up a lot in the book.
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But they stayed and they joined the Nazi party and they helped the Nazis work on this.
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And some of these guys were assigned to these very, very interesting exotic technological
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experiments and physics experiments.
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Einstein had a partner named Eli Cartan and they came up with the Einstein-Cartan theory,
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which they published in a book before Einstein left.
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And I think the Germans began to work on this and it involved something called the metric
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which has to do with spin energy, basically saying if you take something massive, and
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the more massive it is, the better.
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And you spin it fast enough, guess what?
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You start getting more energy out of it than you put into it and eventually becomes self-generating.
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Now there's complications to this, but there's a lot of experiments.
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And I talk about this in The Choice, my second book, a lot if you want to get into the details
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of that, of how that works.
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But basically what it means is everything in the universe is spin.
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And to me, that's what time is.
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Time is just, everything in the universe is constantly moving.
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There's this law of motion, Newton has this law of motion that when something is at rest,
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it's going to stay at rest unless it gets pushed by something.
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But nothing's ever at rest.
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When you lay down to sleep at night, you're never completely motionless.
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You're still breathing, your muscles are twitching, every atom in your body has an electron
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spinning around it, you're constantly moving.
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So I just think time is just this spiraling forward movement.
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And Einstein was on to this.
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Now the criticism of it is that torsion is not powerful enough to influence physical
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movement and lift aircraft and things like that.
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But again, in my books, a couple of my other books, I talk about Explorer 1 and how everything
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that NASA had that had a spinning system on it, like Explorer 1 was the first satellite
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we launched into space.
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It had a third stage, it was spinning.
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And the reason they did it was because they had solid rocket boosters on there and on
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the third stage and they were very inconsistent with how they burn.
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In other words, you couldn't have one thruster that was burning at 85% and one that was burning
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at 99, or you'd get the aircraft would get put off course.
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So they spun the whole assembly at 750 RPM.
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Every time they did this, the spacecraft they would send up ended up way higher and farther
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up in orbit than it was supposed to.
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In fact, they thought they'd lost several of them.
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They tried to hit the moon with the very first Ranger satellite.
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They missed it by 38,000 miles.
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The moon is 2,100 miles across.
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That's like missing that door with a baseball thrown from a distance of about a foot.
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It's pretty hard to miss that door.
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And this was all because they all had these spinning rotational systems, gyroscopes,
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things like that.
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So the Germans got very interested in this stuff after Einstein left and they continued
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to develop it.
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Sorry, that was a little bit of a side note there.
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But they continued to develop it, work on these roiling kind of vorticular motions
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that were applicable to this and try to think of ways that they could apply this to physical
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fields and actually make practical devices out of them.
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Well, I think one of the developments that they created was something called the Nazi
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Bell.
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Now, has anybody not really heard of the bell?
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Most nobody's heard of the bell.
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The Nazi Bell is an experiment that really came to light in the 1990s when Dr. Joseph
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Ferrell discovered some East German documents that talked about this thing called the De
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Glock, which was the bell in German.
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And it was supposed to be an acorn shaped object like this.
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It was described as having Nazi symbols on it.
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And guess what?
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A bunch of runic symbols across this belt at the bottom as if once again, they were melding
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the mystical aspect with the physical aspect to try to get this thing to work.
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Now, the question is, what is the concept behind it?
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There's different illustrations of it.
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It was put in various test rigs.
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They found actually a test rig in what is now Poland in an area called, I'll give you
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three guesses, Silesia, where they actually built and tested this thing.
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This is the test rig.
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Critics say it's a support structure for a water tower, but it's the exact correct
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size and dimension to actually have fit the bell inside of it.
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Again, it was right in the same area around Silesia where the Germans seemed to do all
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of this secret private work.
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And this is actually a US Army intelligence photo of the area.
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And what they have labeled there, the fly trap that's circular there, that is this test
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rig.
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And this is the sky from the sky in World War II.
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So we know it stems from the time of World War II.
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This was, according to the German documents, this was a rubber plant.
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They built rubber seals for tanks in this plant.
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That rubber plant was taking up one sixth of all the energy electrical production of
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Nazi Germany right up until the end of the war.
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I don't think they were really just making rubber seals there.
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So again, this is kind of interesting stuff to discover.
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Was this area really important?
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Is Silesia really important?
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Is this where this stuff all happened?
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And the answer, I think, is yes.
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This is a map of the US Third Army's march through Western Europe.
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Now, the US Third Army was commanded by General Patton, General George S. Patton.
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And if you guys have ever seen the movie, the biographical movie about his life, he
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was a pretty intense guy.
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It's really fascinating because what happens is that they swept across France.
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They had a battle, you know, counterattack by the Germans, the Battle of the Bulge.
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They fought them back and they got up to the Rhine River, which is the boundary, the natural
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boundary of Germany.
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Now, once you breach the Rhine, the political prize to end the war is Berlin.
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Patton had swept across Europe faster than anybody else could have even imagined.
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He set all kinds of records for this kind of thing.
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Yet when he crossed the Rhine, he was ordered not to go to Berlin.
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Now, again, it was critical politically for the US to beat the Russians to Berlin because
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that would give us a lot of post-war political leverage in terms of how Europe was going
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to be governed.
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Instead, what they did is they diverted him to the southeast.
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He completely bypassed Berlin and they sent him directly to this area right here, Silesia,
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because they knew there was something there, probably because of the fact it was using
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so much energy.
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Hitler, it is said, yeah, again, these are the movements of Patton's Third Army.
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Hitler, it is said, and that allowed the Russians to come in and take Berlin first.
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So we had the split up of the city, we had the Berlin Wall, we had all that conflict
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for so many years before it finally came down.
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And it's really interesting because Hitler is said to have done a couple of things that
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people thought were crazy.
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One of them was that he insisted on his biggest armies that were left protect this area because
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he kept telling his generals, we are developing weapons there that will end the war in our
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favor, not just strike a blow, but we will actually win the war.
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And he wouldn't tell anybody what they were.
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They were not atomic bombs.
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We know now that they were not talking about atomic bombs because the Germans could only
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have built one or two atomic bombs, and even then you would have had to have a thousand
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atomic bombs to stop the Russian hordes from overrunning Nazi Germany because it just
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doesn't do that much damage.
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I mean, if a Hiroshima bomb went off at LAX right now, right next to us at the airport,
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we would be wiped out, but the guys, Hermosa Beach, wouldn't be hit by it.
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So they were protecting, I think, a lot of these exotic physics designs and instruments
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among them, the Nazi bell.
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And the thing about the bell that's really interesting is it said that when it was activated,
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it was chained to this test rig and it would basically shoot up into the air.
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It also had very deleterious effects on biological matter that was within range of its fields.
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Okay, sorry, I probably hit that a little too soon.
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It did not do good for you.
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It was not good to be around it.
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So they ended up building this thing with extra shielding and testing it in the fly
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trap.
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And, you know, again, if you look at the shape of the fly trap, it's exactly the right size
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to put the bell as it was laid out in some of the documents.
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Inside of it, it was apparently levitated in kind of an anti-gravitational field.
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And what I think this thing was is an anti-gravity reactor.
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In other words, something that generated an anti-gravity field that they eventually learned
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how to shield it so it wouldn't kill people that were within range of it, but use it
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as the lift.
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The problem is, again, it's just like the same problem that you had with the early
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airships is that you don't have any control over where it goes.
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That's why they had to chain it up because they couldn't control it.
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Well, guess what?
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If you look at it, it's very similar to a lot of Amana designs.
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They have this sort of bulging design from the old days.
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May have been a similar kind of thing that the ancient Vedic cultures created.
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But there were lots of other smart Germans.
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Germans, if anything, if you've ever owned a German car, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, they're
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really well-built cars because the Germans are master engineers.
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That's something that's built into their genes.
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They had other guys that were really brilliant inventors.
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One of them was a gentleman named Victor Schauberger.
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Now, Schauberger had developed something that he said worked with the physical, the real
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physics of the earth, not against the real physics of the earth.
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In other words, he feels like planes fight the air.
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They fight the planet.
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Fish do not swim.
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They are swum.
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Birds do not fly.
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They are flown.
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In other words, he thought that they had some way of using the earth's energy, wind energy
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whatever it was, to glide and float and go anywhere they wanted to.
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He began to work on something called the repulsing, which was a disc-shaped object
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that looks, I don't know, kind of like a flying saucer.
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The idea was that he would use all sorts of internal vortex generators, all this spinning,
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swirling stuff to move the wind around, which would give him the ability to control where
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the repulsing went.
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The problem he had is he couldn't get enough power in it to really make it work very effectively.
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So he has this design.
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Here's a 3D cutaway of what it might have looked like.
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There are his grandson, I believe, has a working model about three feet across that his grandfather
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built of repulsing.
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And when you fire it up, put a little engine in it, the thing shoots up and flies around.
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Now what's interesting about this is that, and again, here's all the different vortexes
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there was a cananda effect, is what it was called, that was used to actually move the
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craft around in certain directions.
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But if you combine these two technological ideas together, this repulsing, along with
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the Nazi bell, what you get, well, this is, by the way, this is Dr. Joe Farrell's book,
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Rike of the Black Sun, which is the first book that was written about the Nazi bell.
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I highly recommend it.
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It's very interesting stuff.
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What he talked about was that inside the bell is that you had this massive spinning,
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heavy magnetically charged metals, very exotic stuff, inside the bell that were spinning,
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sometimes counter rotating, and they were encased in something called Xerum 525, also
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known, I think, today as what they call red mercury.
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It was this heavy red thick viscous gas.
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But I'm wondering, is this a further development of the original Nimza Sonora Air Club NB gas?
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And I think it was.
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They developed this stuff, put it together, put it inside.
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Here's an example of how it looked.
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It had these interior magnets that would spin around, and that was how they generated this
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field.
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So if you take a repulsing, which looks a little bit like a flying saucer, and you
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put a bell inside of it, you get the standard classic flying saucer shape.
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This may be why flying saucers look the way they do, because you have this cupola here
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to house the reactor, and then you have this disk-shaped area where you can control direction,
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speed, all the different things you might be able to need to do for a flying airship.
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Now, there are lots of pictures of German flying saucers.
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I've talked to my publisher, David Hatcher Childress.
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He is convinced that these photos are real.
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I'm a little more skeptical.
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But this is one of the early designs of these German flying saucers.
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They had standard weaponry, like machine guns and cannons.
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But they had this amazing capability of flying at incredible speeds, choosing any direction,
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being constrained by inertia, so they could fly around and do different stuff.
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This is some layouts of what they look like.
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These are actually gun turrets down here, and they look a lot like some of Vdamsky's
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later sightings.
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Here's another shot that he's convinced is real of a later design of these so-called
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flying saucers, or I think they call them Hannabaus?
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Hannenbaus?
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Hannabu.
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But this whole thing was run by a German Obergruppenführer, which someday I want to be Obergruppenführer.
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I want to have a wife and say, call me Obergruppenführer.
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Named Hans Kammler.
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This is a picture of Hans Kammler.
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The interesting thing about Hans Kammler is that we know he ran this SS Secrets Project
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Division where they were developing this very advanced stuff in Salacia at the so-called
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rubber plant.
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He was the guy in charge of everything.
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And nobody knows what happened to him after the war.
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Except if you listen to the US government, we know he died.
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The problem is that we know, according to their documents, that he died four times.
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Because there's four different official documented methods of death for Hans Kammler.
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Hitler also kept 250,000 troops and a couple of very, very super long-range bombers in
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Norway till the end of the war.
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I mean, 250,000 troops in Norway, good troops that he could have used to defend Berlin or
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Germany.
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What were they doing in Norway?
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The thought is that it was his last escape.
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The rumor is that Kammler took the bell and the scientists that he didn't kill and the
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plans and he took a plane to Norway and then he took this long-range plane from Norway
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to Argentina, which became a German base.
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I just talked to a couple of gentlemen from Argentina yesterday.
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Said, oh yeah, there's Bavarian villages all over the place in Argentina.
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And then went on to Antarctica.
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That's the idea.
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This is what the different Hanabout designs look like.
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There's the ones, the two, the three, the four.
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They got bigger and bigger and more and more impressive.
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That by the way is not Hans Kammler.
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That is Marlon Brando in a Nazi uniform.
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But I found this online and I thought, well, it's really cool.
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And it looks like, and I'm going, can he ever play Nazi?
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He must have played a Nazi.
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So Marlon Brando in a Nazi uniform.
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And again, you can see the development of the technology as it gets more and more sophisticated.
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And the Germans had time to build some of these things, not a whole lot of them.
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But then the question becomes, where'd they get them from?
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And the standard answer is they got this technology, these ideas from the aliens.
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Here in fact is a verified picture of Hitler meeting an alien.
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Okay, it's probably not really a real picture of Hitler meeting an alien.
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But that story seems like BS.
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It seems like, give me a break.
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It's a bunch of nonsense.
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But if you notice, like in culture, this idea of the aliens helping the Nazis is becoming
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more and more prominent.
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There was a show called Star Trek Enterprise, which is another one of the really bad, we
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had four really bad Star Treks after the original series.
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But one of the plot lines they ran in near the end was one where there were aliens from
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a different timeline that came back in time to give the Germans technology, partly to
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get themselves back to their own time, but also to help them defeat the Allies.
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And you know, they were these pretty creepy reptilian looking guys, which are fairly standard.
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And in some of the episodes, you see these plants where they're actually building tons
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of these Nazi bell like structures in the background, they're actually building Nazi
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flying saucers.
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And so I'm fascinated that this ends up in in the public consciousness.
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I guess it's good research if you're a fiction writer, but I kind of think that, you know,
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fiction when it comes to aliens and space tends to reflect reality more often than not.
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Here's again, some other pictures, very early pictures of what is supposed to be the very
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first prototype of a Nazi flying saucer.
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There's a couple other pictures of it.
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Here's a picture of it supposedly being tested in Norway, I believe, in the snow.
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Here's a couple other pictures.
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This one I find less plausible, but I think possibly what it is, is somebody photoshopped
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it a little bit to clean it up.
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But it could be based on a real German American gun camera footage of these objects.
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And there are just a whole ton of photographs out there of this first design.
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And it's it, they were small, but they were very, very interesting.
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And they appear to work because the Germans were certainly working on these different
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technologies that would have been used to create them.
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Now, another thing that happened in World War II was really interesting.
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I wish Jose was here because he's got a movie about this, is this battle of Los Angeles.
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It involves this city right here, LA.
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What happened was, is in 1942, right after the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor when
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we were all really jittery, something came on the radar.
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The radar was very primitive then, but something came on the radar from the south, basically
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appeared around Long Beach and then flew all the way up the coast.
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Long Beach, Hermosa, Santa Monica, LAX, El Segundo, and was shot at over and over and
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over again.
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And if you look at the photographs of this thing, this is an actual photograph, enhanced
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now from the LA Times from 1942, the next day, of this object.
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And what you see is you see a bunch of flak going off.
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These are anti-aircraft shells.
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And you see a glowing disc-shaped object and witnesses at the time, which I understand
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I've been told that DeForest Kelly, who later became Dr. McCoy on the original Star Trek,
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was one of the gunners who shot at this thing and was interviewed for it.
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But it appears to be a typical German-looking flying saucer.
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And people are wondering, was this actually some sort of test by the Germans to see if
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they could actually come to America and use these things?
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It's interesting to me because the reports are that all the cannon shells and everything
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they fired at it just bounced right off.
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They didn't make a clanging noise.
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They never got to the metal, but it was like they hit this absorbent field.
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Now one of the implications in a field that's going to create an inertia-less environment
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inside this bubble is nothing's going to be able to penetrate that from the outside.
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No three-dimensional kinetic energy weapon is going to get through it.
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And it's interesting because it does look like a bit more of this shape than it does
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some of the other flying saucers that were seen in the 1940s.
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And then you had the same kind of thing going on.
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You had the Foo Fighters.
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There was these American sightings by pilots of all different bombers and fighters of bright
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glowing orbs, some of which were said to be silvery balls, appearing off their wings,
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paralleling them, flying along with them.
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There were frequent news stories of what they called Foo Fighters.
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Not the band, but these objects that seemed to be like balls of energy, but sometimes
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displayed metallic characteristics.
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Sometimes they were balls of energy that then became solid and metallic.
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And all they ever did was fly along and parallel the American pilots.
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They never really interfered with their operations, but they appeared very near the end of World
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War II and more primarily in eastern Germany, more near Salacia.
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So what they were, what they were supposed to be, I don't know, but they were really
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kind of the first flying saucer sightings.
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There's another example of a couple of photographs.
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These are authentic photographs of these Foo Fighters that appeared in newspapers and kind
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of freaked the American pilots out.
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Now, none of them looked like this.
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None of them looked like flying saucers.
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None of them appeared to be these solid things, but it appears the Germans were actually working
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very hard in developing these things.
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Here's a gun turret photo of some more Foo Fighters.
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Now what happened right after the war, and you know, people, there's an argument out
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there.
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There's a documentary I worked on called Deep Space, which is on Gaim, where they say,
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oh, the Germans really won World War II.
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Well, look at some of the pictures of post-war Berlin and tell me the Germans won World War
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II.
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Okay, they did not win World War II.
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But one thing that's really interesting is that right after the war, in 1946, we sent
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a massive task force commanded by an Admiral Byrd to Antarctica.
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Now has Antarctica been in the news lately?
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Yeah, it has, because there's some weird stuff going on there.
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It was called Operation High Jump.
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And if you get into Operation High Jump, there were all these ships.
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There were destroyers, there were submarine escorts, there were subs, there were tankers,
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there were seaplane trawlers, there was all kinds of ships that went there, supposedly
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to test our ability to fight in cold weather.
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Well, Jesus, we've just been through World War II.
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World War II in the 40s were some of the coldest winters in European history.
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So it's like, I think we kind of knew how to fight in the snow because we did it all
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through the winters of 1943 and 1944.
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What's interesting is that we went to Antarctica, established a base, but then very suddenly,
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after only being there for about five or six weeks, we bugged out.
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We left behind all kinds of equipment, ships, boats, planes, parts, and just ran with our
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tail between our legs back to the United States.
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It was commanded by Admiral Richard Byrd, who had had a lot of experience in Arctic
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fighting.
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He had been, I think, to the North Pole and was sent to command this mission.
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It's very interesting because the Germans had an area of Antarctica that they had colonized
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back in the 1930s, and they called it New Swabia or New Schwabenland.
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It is on the, what is that, western?
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I don't know.
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With Antarctica, I want to say north-south, but it's Antarctica, so it doesn't really
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have a north or south.
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This area called New Swabia or New Schwabenland, and there's all these stories of they went
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there, they had their submarines, they found underground passages, they went inside the
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Hollow Earth, they met with the aliens, the aliens helped them finish off their flying
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saucers.
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These stories may or may not be true, but they're interesting stories.
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But what we did is what we landed and established a base at the opposite end of Antarctica,
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which was called Little America One.
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Right after doing that, we sent the task forces kind of in two directions right to this area
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right here, New Swabia.
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In military terms, it's a double pincer movement.
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We basically hit them from two sides and tried to get them in between.
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And the rumor goes that we were met by U-boats and German flying saucers that were armed
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to the teeth and were impenetrable, they couldn't be hit by weapons, and they kicked our rear
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ends.
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They fly at incredible speeds, they damaged and destroyed many of our craft, they killed
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a lot of our men, and they put the fear of, well maybe not God, but the fear of aliens
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in us or something during these encounters.
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Here's a shot that supposedly is from the deck of one of the seaplane trawlers of one
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of the actual Nazi flying saucers from the bottom.
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They could perform incredible maneuvers, they could outfight our aircraft, no problem.
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We got our rear ends handed to us.
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They basically whipped our rear ends in this arctic combat.
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Again, stuff was damaged, destroyed, left behind.
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There wasn't much more to it than that because we came up with the excuse that, gosh, the
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weather got bad and we decided not to stay there.
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But then Admiral Byrd gave an interview after he'd been back a couple of years.
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He stated in this newspaper interview, I don't want to frighten anyone on dually, but it's
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a bitter reality that in case of a new war, the continental United States would be attacked
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by flying objects which could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.
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Meaning, what does that sound like?
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Incredible speeds sounds to me like a flying saucer, and from pole to pole, I think he's
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talking about primarily the south pole.
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In other words, he's saying, well, the Germans got some stuff down there that we can't deal
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with and we need to be worried about that.
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In 1947, right after Operation Highjump, something else happens that's really weird,
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which is that Kenneth Arnold cites these flying saucers, the first flying saucer sighting
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on June 24th, 1947, reports them, it gets into the newspaper, he describes what they
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were shaped like and gives this full report.
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It's taken very seriously because he's ex-military and he knows his stuff and his observation
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skills are very good and the military takes his report and says, oh, this is really interesting.
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One of the things that he did was he later had an artist paint up what it was that he
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saw and this is what it looked like.
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It's interesting because what he says is that these things were jumping and skipping and
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he said, if you took a teacup saucer and skipped it across a pond, that's where the term flying
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saucer came from.
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They weren't really saucer shaped, they were these wedge shaped objects.
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Then there were also these sort of shield type shapes that he saw.
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He saw two different kinds of aircraft, but they both appear to be lifting bodies or
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flying wings almost.
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This is a story that came out in Chicago.
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After that happened, again, this was originally created for the coming of the saucers that
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Arnold published.
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To me, they look a lot like the underbody for these War of the Worlds war machines.
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If you've ever seen that movie, it's still a really great movie.
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It's a little bit dated, but still a great movie.
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Much better than the Tom Cruise one.
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God, I can't stand watching that one.
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I mean, I'm sitting there watching it and it's like, there's not a single likable person
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in the whole movie.
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I'm like, can the Martians just wipe them all out, please?
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I don't like any of them.
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I didn't like his kids, I didn't like him.
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And also used in a really terrible film called Robinson Crusoe on Mars, which is still showing
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if you ever want to notice that based on the same thing.
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So this is what he portrayed, what he thought it looked like.
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And it's really interesting because to me, it looks very much like something I'd seen
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before.
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And other people have pointed this out too.
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I'm not the first.
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It looks like this thing, which is the Horton HO-229, which was a highly advanced German
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flying wing fighter bomber that was in development at the end of the war in the more public
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conventional aerospace stuff.
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They had great stuff.
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They developed the world's first jet fighter, the ME-262, which is really cool because it's
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like this is the first jet fighter.
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It was so much faster than anything the Allies had.
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Chuck Yeager, the very famous Wrightstuff guy said, you'd see these things fly around
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and he realized there was nothing we could do.
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They could have shot every plane we had out of the sky.
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But he goes, but Hitler decided that all German weapons will be offensive, not defense.
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In other words, we're not going to use them to shoot down Allied bombers.
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The Germans could have stopped the Allied daylight bombing and probably kept their war
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machine going and maybe even sued for peace.
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As Yeager put it, fortunately, Hitler was an idiot.
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So they used them to drop bombs.
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Imagine taking this thing that could wipe out anything in the sky and use it to drop
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like a 500 pound bomb on London.
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That's what they were using them for.
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So this is the actual HO-229 prototype.
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It was a wood mock-up prototype, but it was fully functional in terms of everything worked
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the way it was supposed to.
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They also found plans for three more developments of it, which would get bigger and bigger
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and bigger.
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It was captured by the Allies.
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And here's another shot of the rear end.
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It was kind of a stealth flying wing.
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It doesn't look at all unlike our B-2 stealth bomber.
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And here is the actual prototype.
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What's left of it.
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It's now being restored using aluminum and metal according to the original plans in
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the Smithsonian.
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And someday they're going to build the sucker.
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I think they might fly it once, although that could be risky.
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And they're going to put it on display in the museum.
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So it's actually really an airplane that would have flown had it gone into production.
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Now it's interesting because, again, it bears this great resemblance to the B-2 stealth
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bomber.
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But the B-2 didn't come out until the 1990s.
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So why did it take us from 1945 to 1990, 50 years, to get a flying wing that worked?
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Well, the biggest reason is that flying wings are unstable aerial platforms.
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Without a tail, they tend to be really hard to control.
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And it was only with the development of fiber optic technology that we were able to control
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services of the B-2 so precisely.
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Like they would make literally thousands of adjustments per second to keep the plane level.
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So it wasn't until computers were invented and fiber optics were invented.
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And again, fiber optics may have come from aliens.
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We'll talk about that in a second.
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That they could make it work.
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So what I think Arnold actually saw was probably a test squadron of our version, our development
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version of this design.
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And notice that the cockpit's really forward here.
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And then what might be the cockpit is further back in the middle.
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Remember, he saw this from about nine miles away.
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So he didn't get a super good look at this.
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The reason you would move that cockpit back is it would change the center of gravity and
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make the airframe more stable.
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And so I wonder, is it that he just saw us testing secret German equipment?
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Why would we be doing that near Mount Rainier?
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Well, Mount Rainier, Washington and McCord Air Force Base, at the time, it was virtually
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uninhabited.
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There was nobody there.
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I mean, it was 50 miles outside of Seattle, 40, 50 miles outside of Seattle.
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There's nobody there.
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There's nobody living there.
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There is now.
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The city of Tacoma sprung up in the post-war era.
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But there's nobody there.
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It was a great place to search.
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But what I wonder is, if they actually were testing these American development aircraft
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there, and other ones that are similar.
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A bunch of sightings happened after Arnold's report.
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There was a bunch of sightings of some in Cincinnati of these lifting body wedge shapes.
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I think this is probably a further development of the idea.
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The Seattle PI, there was more flying disk spotted than Idaho.
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Through the Midwest, these are the Lubbock lights, but it was similar types of stuff.
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And then, what happened was, about two weeks later, on July 4th, give or take, 1947, Roswell
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happened.
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We had this crash of what may or may not have been an alien flying saucer, a spacecraft.
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And I'm only going through this because there is an aspect of conspiracy theory that believes
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that all the flying saucers are actually German.
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That there's no aliens.
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I don't think that's correct, but that's what they're saying.
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So we're going to go through this a little bit.
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We had the crash flying saucer.
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There was the report that found a flying disk.
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We actually said we got a flying saucer from another planet.
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And then, we went in all the newspapers.
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It was put out over the news wires.
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And then they took it back.
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But when you talk about the crash, what actually was seen at the crash was not a flying saucer.
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And the dead alien bodies were added later.
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It was not a crash flying saucer.
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It was more one of these wedge-shaped objects.
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And of course, we all remember the press conference where Jesse Marcel and General Ramey were
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forced to go out there and say, oh, no, it was a weather balloon.
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And then later on, the Air Force said, oh, it was a super secret weather balloon called
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Mogul.
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It wasn't just a weather balloon.
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It was a secret weather balloon.
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And of course, they said that's all BS, Dr. Jesse Marcel.
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I saw the original interviews with him back in the 70s.
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And he's not making his stuff up.
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But one of the things that Ramey did was really interesting is in his hand, he held
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a piece of paper that he prominently stuck out there for people to photograph.
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And what's happened, of course, with modern technology is they've gone back and they've
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looked at this thing, flipped it upside down, and tried to enhance it and read what that
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piece of paper said.
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And what it said was, among other things, is, you know, we have questions at the viewing
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of the decoy, you connected, blah, blah, blah.
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On the disk that Hout, that's General Hout, sent the advisory, the tower may arrive shortly
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at Air Force Base, apparently sent this note, viewers of disks are doing next from you,
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the weather balloons would make the land discovery cruise.
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Basically what this is, this is part of a sentence, a paragraph where they're saying,
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you know, there are disks.
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It was a disk.
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It was not a weather balloon.
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People are viewing the disks back at headquarters.
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And one of the other pictures that was taken, you can see, and the victims of the wreck,
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and in the disk they will ship.
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So there's parts of this that are pretty clearly showing in my mind that they're talking
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about bodies and a flying disk of some kind.
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Aliens, right?
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Now one thing I will say, and again, this is Jesse Marcel and his story that he told
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back in those days.
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One thing I will say is that I think what could have happened is they did have this
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squadron of secret flying wing aircraft that we were developing.
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They tested an amount of McCord, this pilot saw it and started this whole UFO craze.
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So they said, okay, well, we got to move it to someplace more isolated than McCord because
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obviously it was spotted.
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So where are we going to move it?
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Well, gosh, the most secret base at the time in the world was Roswell Army Airfield, which
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had the only air wing, as we know, that had a nuclear bomb squadron.
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It was the most secret remote secure airfield on the planet at that time.
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So it's entirely possible that they then moved these secret German Horton flying wings
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to Roswell, continued to test them and one of them crashed.
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Or one of them crashed into a flying saucer.
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I tend to lean toward the alien explanation for reasons we'll get into in a bit, but that
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is a possibility that I think we all have to consider that it very well could have
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been something along those lines.
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Although at this point, I would have thought that would be a better explanation than the
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explanation that the Air Force came up with.
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So the question is, you know, are these objects that we saw in the beginning of the fifties
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are that may have been of German design?
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Are they really extraterrestrial or are they German?
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Are they American?
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Are they some variation of that?
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You had different people at the time, General Nathan Twining, who was original member of
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some of the secret organizations saying, you know, flying saucer situation is not imaginary.
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It's something real.
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The phenomenon is something solid.
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It's actually really happening and we have to seriously consider it.
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Now this group of cheery guys is the German rocket scientists brought open over under
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Operation Paperclip.
01:00:56.440 --> 01:01:01.480
Operation Paperclip was a secret operation signed under executive order by Harry Truman
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to import Nazis to the United States to work on our technology and rocketry programs.
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And you can see from the ME-262 and the Horton HO-229 that they were way ahead of us in conventional
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aviation and maybe were way ahead of us in very exotic physics, technology, flying saucers,
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that kind of thing.
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So we brought these guys over.
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The guy here is Dr. Werner von Braun, who if you don't know about him, you should read
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about him.
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He's the father of the American rocketry program, even though he's a German.
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They specify no ardent Nazis.
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Von Braun was a major in the SS, so that to me makes him kind of an ardent Nazi.
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This guy here is Dr. Hermann Oberth.
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He's the cheery guy.
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He was actually the physicist, theoretical physicist.
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He was von Braun's mentor who helped him get his doctoral dissertation done.
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And when he was asked one time, you know, how did you Germans invent all this crazy
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stuff, the V2 rocket and all that?
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And he said, we can't take credit for the advancement in certain scientific fields alone.
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And when I asked him by who, he said, the people of other worlds.
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That's documented.
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He did that interview in a major magazine in the 50s and said, the people of other
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worlds helped us.
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And then later on, he said, you know, it's my thesis that flying saucers are real, that
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they are spaceships from other solar systems.
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And there's no doubt in my mind that they're interplanetary craft of some sort.
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So again, is it that the Germans are trying to like pull the alien card, play the alien
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card to get you to not think about the fact this is German technology or the Germans really
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running the show?
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I don't know.
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Here is Dr. Von Braun in the 1930s, right before the war, 1938.
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That guy is Adolf Hitler, as you might be able to tell from the mustache.
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Here's a picture of von Braun at his SS induction ceremony.
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I got this screen cap off of biography, the biography channel doesn't exist anymore.
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I think it's one of the other history networks.
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But here is his black SS uniform.
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It's confirmed by the US government.
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Yes, this is Dr. Von Braun.
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And the guy walking in front of him is Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's number two man in Nazi Germany.
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And they were personal buddies.
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So don't tell me that Von Braun and Himmler were not that he was not that Von Braun was
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not an ardent Nazi.
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He certainly was.
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He shouldn't have been here.
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It was illegal.
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And they brought him over to build our rocketry program.
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Here's Von Braun, who is right there.
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And a bunch of his other scientists buddies from Germany in Fort Bliss, Texas, where
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they were housed for a while after the war, because obviously, we didn't really trust
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them all that much.
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So we kept them in kind of a compound.
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But notice the sign of the little saloon above their heads.
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Looks a little bit like a flying saucer.
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And it has a swastika right there.
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So their allegiances remained with Nazi Germany.
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There's rumors the Russians had their own Roswell, that they had crashes of flying
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saucers that gave them certain technologies they begin to develop.
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But what's really interesting is that Roswell was not the only crash that ever happened.
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There was an earlier crash in 1942 in Cape Gerardo, Missouri, where a flying saucer
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supposedly crashed, that the local police and fire department went out there and they
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found these dead alien bodies.
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And a gentleman, a Southern Baptist Reverend named William Huffman was called up, but all
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I told him was, I need you to come out, there's been a plane crash, we need you to perform
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the last rites of the Christian Church.
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I always thought that was a Catholic thing, but apparently there's some other last rites
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that are performed on the dead pilots.
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And when he got there, the dead pilots were these guys, three foot tall, big heads, standard
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grays.
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This is actually a sketch by him, of him remembering the Texas Rangers and police guys holding
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up the body, pictures being taken, yeah, right out of this thing here, it was recreated
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for a TV show.
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And supposedly, one of my better friends is Dr. Bob Wood, he runs the MUFON OC organization,
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:05.880
which is a great organization.
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:10.440
If you ever get time to go down to their meetings, they have great meetings down there, really
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:11.440
well attended.
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Dr. Wood, does anybody here know Stanton Friedman?
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.000
All the old people know who Stanton is.
01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:23.840
Stanton is the flying saucer physicist, he was the first very serious UFO researcher.
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He was hired by Dr. Bob Wood because Dr. Bob Wood was given his assignment by his aerospace
01:05:30.120 --> 01:05:32.960
company, which I want to say was Hughes Aerospace.
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McDonald's.
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McDonald's, okay, before it was McDonald Douglas.
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And went to him and they said, we want you to figure out the flying saucer thing.
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What's going on, are there really flying saucers, are there UFOs, are there aliens?
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Is Bob, is he giving a lecture?
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Yeah, he's a brilliant guy, great guy.
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.080
He hired Stan to work with him, Stan went out and started doing this, started this
01:05:58.080 --> 01:06:01.000
whole UFO conference thing, it wouldn't exist without Stanton Friedman.
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:09.020
But Dr. Wood is a doctorate in physics, and he came back and he said, yeah, there's something
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going on, there's definitely some sort of technology.
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One of the technologies that came out of the Cape Girardeau crash was they found these
01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:18.000
things, which are fiber optic cables.
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They did not know what they were, they did not know how they could be used to transfer
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information, but they were a polymer, they were able to figure out how to make plastic
01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:32.360
polymer fiber optic cables from this crash.
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:36.240
So it's like, as you look at it, it appears that the technology did leak through from
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alien sources.
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Now, the next thing that happened is in the 1950s, we had this incredible event over two
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weekends, July 12th of 1952, and then July 19th and 20th of 1952.
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And July 20th is really interesting because you might remember that we landed on the
01:06:51.120 --> 01:06:54.360
moon, Apollo 11 on that day.
01:06:54.360 --> 01:07:01.960
And that is a date that reappears over and over again in NASA's very ritualistic, repetitive
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:02.960
behavior.
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They like to land on Mars on July 20th, they've done that a couple times.
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So it's really interesting that this happened, but what happened was that a bunch of objects
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were spotted on radar.
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They flew over the U.S. Capitol.
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This is a recreation of what witnesses said they saw.
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They basically saw a fleet of flying saucers, glowing disk shaped objects described as
01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:27.800
silvery disks flying around the Capitol with impunity, buzzing the White House.
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:33.740
They were spotted and confirmed on radar by experienced radar operators, military radar
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operators.
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And this went on for two consecutive weekends.
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Now, people started to get kind of nervous about this.
01:07:41.980 --> 01:07:47.440
So the second weekend, they actually sent out fighter jets, very primitive at that
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:51.660
time that we had, to intercept these UFOs.
01:07:51.660 --> 01:07:55.620
And the UFOs just flew away from them like they were nothing.
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They were definitely highly advanced technology.
01:07:58.620 --> 01:08:02.500
The other thing that's really interesting is people have brought up that, you know,
01:08:02.500 --> 01:08:04.140
were they German?
01:08:04.140 --> 01:08:09.080
Were these German Hannenbaus buzzing the U.S. and trying to scare us into making a deal
01:08:09.160 --> 01:08:10.960
with what was left of the Nazi government?
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:12.720
You know, I guess you could call it the First Order, right?
01:08:12.720 --> 01:08:14.520
What was left from the Star Wars movies?
01:08:14.520 --> 01:08:15.520
Nobody gets that.
01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:16.520
Okay.
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:17.520
From, she got that.
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:24.520
From, you know, the leftover remnants of the empire, the Nazi empire.
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:31.920
But their behavior was so weird that it's almost like, to me, it was alien.
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:33.560
Because it's just weird behavior.
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:38.840
Like they would, they just, flying saucers would just appear over a radar beacon.
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:39.840
Out of nowhere.
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:44.520
Just blink into existence, hover over the beacon, shut the beacon down, let the beacon
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.520
back up and then blink out again.
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:48.240
Sometimes they would shoot up into the sky at incredible speeds.
01:08:48.240 --> 01:08:50.400
They'd get chased, they'd run away.
01:08:50.400 --> 01:08:52.320
The planes would return, they'd come back.
01:08:52.320 --> 01:08:54.880
They just kept messing with everybody, trying to make an impression.
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:58.820
Now, Whitley Strieber, interestingly, has an opinion that this was an attempt to establish
01:08:58.820 --> 01:09:01.900
contact with the U.S. government that failed.
01:09:01.900 --> 01:09:05.200
And so because it failed, they then went with the next route, which was direct personal
01:09:05.200 --> 01:09:11.040
contact, person to person, which is the abduction experience.
01:09:11.040 --> 01:09:14.680
But the bottom line is that they tried to say, like, you know, remember the swamp gas
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:19.180
explanation for UFOs in Michigan in the 1960s?
01:09:19.180 --> 01:09:21.160
They said, oh, well, it was a temperature inversion.
01:09:21.160 --> 01:09:24.800
So there were all these weird blips on their radar screens.
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:31.440
And the radar, the radar technicians came back and said, well, first of all, some of
01:09:31.440 --> 01:09:36.300
these temperature inversions made 90 degree turns at 2000 miles an hour and higher.
01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:39.280
One of them was at 7000 miles an hour.
01:09:39.280 --> 01:09:43.840
And they were not nearly strong enough to explain the good and solid returns on radar
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:44.840
scopes.
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:49.440
And by the way, we've seen plenty of temperature inversions in the United States or in, you
01:09:49.440 --> 01:09:51.980
know, in the Washington area, and these were nothing like them.
01:09:51.980 --> 01:09:55.540
So that was an event that really got everybody super excited.
01:09:55.540 --> 01:10:00.760
There were eyewitnesses stories in the Alexandria Gazette and various papers of Washington Post.
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:05.120
There were rumors the jets were then told to shoot them down if they came back on the
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second weekend.
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This, I think, is one of the few actual photographs of the objects that flew over the capital
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:14.120
that one of those weekends.
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It's pretty scary.
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Here's another one of one of the glowing objects over the capital.
01:10:19.120 --> 01:10:23.480
So imagine if this happened today with social media and everybody having a camera.
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I think it would create even a bigger stir than it did then, but it created quite a big
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:34.520
To the point that Harry Truman, the president of the United States at that time, came out
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:39.600
and said, look, these suckers, if they exist, and it was obvious that they existed, were
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.160
not constructed by any power on earth.
01:10:42.160 --> 01:10:46.800
And he admitted that they had been discussing them at high level national security meetings.
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:51.680
So after that, the US Air Force created Project Blue Book, which was supposed to investigate
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:52.680
flying saucers.
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:56.840
And he gave this guy, the head of the Blue Book project, the assignment of figuring out
01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:58.640
what the heck was going on.
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:04.120
Eventually, what was determined was that they didn't know what it was.
01:11:04.120 --> 01:11:07.480
And it didn't happen again after those first two weeks.
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Now moving forward in the whole thing, we get into like a later period of time.
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This is in here because it's an example of what used to be called microfilm.
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:22.080
Back in the old days, when I first started up Boeing, we used to take engineering drawings
01:11:22.080 --> 01:11:25.800
from previous aircraft and put them on microfilm, which was just basically photographs that
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:26.800
were really tiny.
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:34.000
And you'd use these big enlargers and you would enlarge them and take a printout of
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:35.000
it.
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.960
And then you had a full-size engineering drawing you could work from and mark up.
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:39.960
That is Richard Nixon.
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Yeah, I think that's some of the Alger Hiss microfilm from his famous case.
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:53.360
In 1984, a UFO researcher named Jamie Chanderet got in the mail an envelope with microfilm
01:11:53.360 --> 01:11:54.360
in it.
01:11:54.360 --> 01:11:55.760
And had it developed.
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And what came out was this, the so-called Majestic 12 briefing document.
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:08.960
So to me, if UFOs are really alien, if this really does exist, if there really is a secret
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.120
space program, there would be documentation.
01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:14.080
And lo and behold, in 1984, it appeared.
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Now there's a lot of controversy about these documents.
01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:22.600
What this appears to be is a briefing document by Operation Majestic 12 for President-elect
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:25.600
Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952.
01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:28.160
And it even gives the date of the briefing.
01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:30.880
Eisenhower had a national security briefing on that date.
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That has been established.
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And as you go through what was in there, what it does is it tells the story about Kenneth
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:37.800
Arnold.
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:43.040
It says that they were not flying wings, but they were alien spacecraft.
01:12:43.040 --> 01:12:47.000
That a couple weeks later, one of them crashed in Roswell, New Mexico.
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And the documents look very authentic.
01:12:48.280 --> 01:12:51.520
Now Dr. Bob Wood is a document expert.
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:52.840
And he's been through these a million times.
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:55.160
And he's got MajesticDocuments.com.
01:12:55.160 --> 01:12:57.520
He's got tons of the Majestic 12 stuff.
01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:01.000
How he authenticated them, how he says, yes, these are authentic documents.
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:06.080
A bunch of later documents that show that there was such a thing as MJ-12 or Majestic
01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:07.080
12.
01:13:07.080 --> 01:13:09.840
And again, there's many more pages.
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:10.880
It's fascinating stuff to read.
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:13.840
It lists the members of MJ-12.
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And the interesting thing about this is that there were a lot of guys on there that weren't
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:21.520
People said, well, he couldn't possibly be a member of MJ-12.
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:26.840
One of them was number 10, Dr. Donald Menzel.
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And that's this guy right here.
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Now he was an astronomer at Harvard.
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:35.720
But it says in later documents, he was a noted UFO skeptic.
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:38.540
He was the Carl Sagan of the 1950s.
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He would go on the Tonight Show or whatever program was out there and say, oh, there's
01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:43.200
no such thing as UFOs.
01:13:43.200 --> 01:13:44.200
They're making it all up.
01:13:44.200 --> 01:13:45.200
They're crazy people.
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It's a bunch of garbage.
01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:50.440
And people say, well, why would he be on there if he didn't believe in it?
01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:53.580
And the answer is because his job was to be the debunker.
01:13:53.580 --> 01:13:58.400
His job was to be the public face that said, don't pay any attention to this crap.
01:13:58.400 --> 01:14:01.900
It's all a bunch of garbage.
01:14:01.900 --> 01:14:05.980
His protege at Harvard was a guy named Dr. Carl Sagan.
01:14:05.980 --> 01:14:13.120
And in 1972, when Menzel died, Carl Sagan went from being a big advocate of extraterrestrial
01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:17.240
life and the possibility of alien visitation to completely debunking all of it.
01:14:17.240 --> 01:14:21.560
So you tell me who got hired and who replaced him.
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:22.560
So other...
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I think he did that because he'd lose the funding to Cornell University.
01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:30.760
Yeah.
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:32.720
There's a lot of political stuff.
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:37.120
But basically, after Menzel died, it's pretty obvious to me that Sagan replaced him on
01:14:37.120 --> 01:14:38.120
MJ-12.
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So as you go through these documents, there's, again, this is the document that actually
01:14:42.240 --> 01:14:45.400
says, okay, we're going to create this organization called MJ-12.
01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:47.280
People have attacked the signatures.
01:14:47.280 --> 01:14:50.080
But those that study it say these are authentic documents.
01:14:50.080 --> 01:14:55.240
Now they're important because there's other supporting documents talking about, oh, there's
01:14:55.240 --> 01:14:56.480
an MJ-12 meeting today.
01:14:56.480 --> 01:15:00.140
You better get over there, Mr. CIA director.
01:15:00.140 --> 01:15:05.480
They're important because, you know, the other secret space program guys, they don't really
01:15:05.480 --> 01:15:06.480
talk about this.
01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:09.960
They don't have any background for why there might have been something going on.
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:16.920
Now, what happened next is really interesting because in the 1960s, we had an election.
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:19.000
John F. Kennedy beat Richard Nixon.
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:20.960
And Kennedy was not well liked by anybody.
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:25.600
Kennedy was in many ways the Donald Trump of his day because he came in saying, I'm
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:26.600
going to change a lot of stuff.
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.840
And when he came in, he immediately tried to change things.
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:35.140
He gave a speech where he said, you know, we find secret societies and secret oaths
01:15:35.140 --> 01:15:37.320
to be repulsive.
01:15:37.320 --> 01:15:38.960
And Americans don't believe in this.
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:40.320
And we're going to get rid of all this stuff.
01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:42.880
And we're going to tell you the truth about what's going on.
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:47.600
He tried on a couple of occasions to make peace with Khrushchev and go to the moon together.
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:52.120
But what's interesting is one of the other MJ-12 documents that exists out there is
01:15:52.120 --> 01:15:53.720
something called the burn memo.
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:56.520
The reason it's called the burn memo is because it's burned.
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:59.080
Somebody tried to burn it and somebody saved it.
01:15:59.080 --> 01:16:05.920
But one of the fascinating, yeah, here he is where he said, you know, in a field, in
01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:08.840
a field where the United States and the Soviet Union have a special capacity in the field
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.240
of space, there's room for new cooperation, further joint efforts.
01:16:12.240 --> 01:16:17.360
And I include the possibilities for a joint exploration expedition to the moon on September
01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:18.360
20th, 1963.
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He had privately relayed that information twice before to Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:23.760
premier.
01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:30.440
The interesting thing is, is that what it says in here is that as most of you know in
01:16:31.440 --> 01:16:39.320
this MJ-12 memo, Lancer has made several inquiries regarding our activities which
01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:42.120
we cannot allow.
01:16:42.120 --> 01:16:45.640
John F. Kennedy's Secret Service code name was Lancer.
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:51.040
So what they're saying is this guy is digging into our UFO stuff and we cannot allow that.
01:16:51.040 --> 01:16:56.600
I think what happened was is that either because of Kennedy specifically or because
01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:00.680
just in general they wanted to cut presidents out, they stopped, they did not want to tell
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.000
presidents anymore about the alien stuff.
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:09.080
They wanted to keep that out of the purview of alien, of his role.
01:17:09.080 --> 01:17:11.320
But I think it was more specifically towards Kennedy.
01:17:11.320 --> 01:17:15.200
So in my last book, Ancient Aliens and Secret Societies from last year, I talk about the
01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:19.960
Kennedy assassination where he was shot in the head.
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:25.320
And what's really interesting is that this shot, you know, him being hit is that there
01:17:25.320 --> 01:17:32.520
were people in Dealey Plaza who had cameras and a lot of them were taking photographs.
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:37.000
And one of them made it through the process, it's called the Mary Mormon photograph.
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:42.040
And she was standing opposite the grassy knoll, took a picture right at the moment that President
01:17:42.040 --> 01:17:45.280
Kennedy was about to be shot.
01:17:45.280 --> 01:17:51.900
And up on the grassy knoll, behind the fence, under color enhancement, in the early 90s,
01:17:51.900 --> 01:17:55.340
there were three figures that were found in it.
01:17:55.340 --> 01:18:00.620
This guy right here, this guy right here, and this guy right here.
01:18:00.620 --> 01:18:08.860
And this man, in 1989, a guy came forward named Gordon Arnold, and he said, you know,
01:18:08.860 --> 01:18:14.420
I never talked about this, but I was down in Dealey Plaza on the grassy knoll.
01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:16.100
I had just completed basic training.
01:18:16.100 --> 01:18:17.260
I was on my way to Alaska.
01:18:18.260 --> 01:18:22.860
I was wearing my day summer duty uniform, which involves this color uniform and a kind
01:18:22.860 --> 01:18:28.700
of a top cap with a little, you know, cone on the top of it and a pin on the front of
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it.
01:18:29.700 --> 01:18:33.980
And I had my mom's video radio, film camera, and I was filming what I thought was a parade,
01:18:33.980 --> 01:18:35.460
and the President of the United States came by.
01:18:35.460 --> 01:18:38.580
And I was like, oh my God, it's the President of the United States, because the next thing
01:18:38.580 --> 01:18:42.420
I know, a shot rings past my left ear, a rifle shot.
01:18:42.420 --> 01:18:44.900
He just got out of basic, he knew what a rifle shot was.
01:18:44.940 --> 01:18:45.940
He hit the ground.
01:18:45.940 --> 01:18:52.060
A guy came around the corner with a rifle, pointed at his face and said, were you filming
01:18:52.060 --> 01:18:53.060
that?
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And he said, yes.
01:18:54.060 --> 01:18:55.060
And he said, give me your camera.
01:18:55.060 --> 01:18:56.420
He said, I can't give him my camera.
01:18:56.420 --> 01:18:57.420
It's my mom's camera.
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He says, give me the film.
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And what he said about this guy is that he was dressed in a Dallas policeman's uniform,
01:19:04.460 --> 01:19:06.900
but he was not wearing a hat.
01:19:06.900 --> 01:19:11.580
So what's really interesting to me, and again, this story came out before any of this photographic
01:19:11.580 --> 01:19:13.860
enhancement work was done.
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If you look at this guy who is called the badge man commonly, what you see is, you
01:19:20.980 --> 01:19:27.700
know, these are his shoulders, his neck, his head, there's his hairline, his eyebrows.
01:19:27.700 --> 01:19:28.700
Here's an elbow.
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Here's another elbow.
01:19:29.700 --> 01:19:30.700
There's his badge.
01:19:30.700 --> 01:19:36.820
There is his Dallas policeman's epaulette on the side, which says probably Dallas Police
01:19:36.820 --> 01:19:38.980
Department.
01:19:38.980 --> 01:19:43.060
And that white flash right there is he's got a rifle just like this.
01:19:43.100 --> 01:19:48.660
And he just pulled the trigger and you're seeing the muzzle flash.
01:19:48.660 --> 01:19:54.100
What's weird to me is that when I look at this guy, he looks like this dude.
01:19:54.100 --> 01:20:00.260
And he's got the same, we're losing a little bit of resolution because of the projector.
01:20:00.260 --> 01:20:02.300
But the male pattern baldness is the same.
01:20:02.300 --> 01:20:03.940
The ears stick out about the same.
01:20:03.940 --> 01:20:07.340
The eyebrows are very prominent and the same.
01:20:07.340 --> 01:20:09.900
And I think this guy is this guy.
01:20:09.900 --> 01:20:11.820
Oh, sorry.
01:20:11.820 --> 01:20:13.460
I'm past.
01:20:13.460 --> 01:20:17.540
The question is, who is this guy?
01:20:17.540 --> 01:20:19.500
This guy is JD Tippett, Dallas police.
01:20:19.500 --> 01:20:23.180
I don't really want to accuse him of being involved in a president's assassination,
01:20:23.180 --> 01:20:24.300
but I think he was.
01:20:24.300 --> 01:20:26.460
This is Dallas police officer JD Tippett.
01:20:26.460 --> 01:20:29.060
He is well known for one reason.
01:20:29.060 --> 01:20:37.100
30 minutes after the shooting, he encountered Lee Harvey Oswald on a Dallas neighborhood
01:20:37.100 --> 01:20:38.100
street.
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Oswald shot him six times and ran away.
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Oswald was subsequently killed, as we all know, the next day by Jack Ruby.
01:20:45.180 --> 01:20:51.840
To this day, nobody knows how the Jack Ruby got into the Dallas police basement where
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.300
he was able to shoot and kill Lee Harvey Oswald.
01:20:54.300 --> 01:21:00.220
And again, I go into more detail in secret societies and a little bit in agenda, but
01:21:00.220 --> 01:21:01.860
it's all a perfect setup.
01:21:01.860 --> 01:21:06.780
You've got Lee Harvey Oswald in the 6-4 school depository shooting Kennedy from the back.
01:21:06.780 --> 01:21:09.980
And most people don't know this, but the shot that went through Kennedy's neck, he was
01:21:10.060 --> 01:21:15.260
dead because it severed the nerve that tells the heart to beat and the lungs to breathe.
01:21:15.260 --> 01:21:17.060
So Kennedy was already dead.
01:21:17.060 --> 01:21:18.220
And then the second shot comes.
01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:22.780
So you have Tippett shooting him from the grassy knoll, Oswald shooting him from behind
01:21:22.780 --> 01:21:24.780
in the 6-4 depository.
01:21:24.780 --> 01:21:26.820
They're then supposed to meet up later.
01:21:26.820 --> 01:21:28.060
They meet up.
01:21:28.060 --> 01:21:29.660
Oswald kills Tippett.
01:21:29.660 --> 01:21:30.700
Ruby kills Oswald.
01:21:30.700 --> 01:21:36.860
Ruby becomes the single point failure in terms of the conspiracy and Ruby never talks.
01:21:36.860 --> 01:21:42.500
And it has to do, I think, with Kennedy actually saying, we are going to go to the moon with
01:21:42.500 --> 01:21:43.500
the Russians.
01:21:43.500 --> 01:21:49.460
And again, I talk about this in my moon book in that what I think was on the moon was
01:21:49.460 --> 01:21:54.900
extraterrestrial artifacts, leftover stuff from the Anunnaki, whatever you want to call
01:21:54.900 --> 01:21:57.100
them, alien technology.
01:21:57.100 --> 01:22:00.940
So what Kennedy found is when he got into office, he found that he was stonewalled
01:22:00.940 --> 01:22:02.820
by the intelligence agencies.
01:22:02.820 --> 01:22:06.100
They wouldn't give him access to the alien information or the secret technology we were
01:22:06.100 --> 01:22:07.100
developing.
01:22:07.100 --> 01:22:09.020
So he said, oh, yeah, screw you.
01:22:09.020 --> 01:22:13.180
I'm going to go develop my own space program.
01:22:13.180 --> 01:22:16.580
And how he did it was he announced, we're going to go to the moon.
01:22:16.580 --> 01:22:18.840
So NASA became the public cover.
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:21.860
But the real mission for NASA was to go there.
01:22:21.860 --> 01:22:23.660
The astronauts didn't go there to collect rocks.
01:22:23.660 --> 01:22:27.820
They went there to collect alien technology and bring it back to be reverse engineered
01:22:27.820 --> 01:22:32.620
and start working on our own separate public, private, secret space program.
01:22:32.620 --> 01:22:35.260
So I think at that point, we had two secret space programs.
01:22:35.260 --> 01:22:37.780
Now, the whole key to all this is anti-gravity.
01:22:37.780 --> 01:22:39.940
Thank you, Kate Upton, for demonstrating anti-gravity for me.
01:22:39.940 --> 01:22:47.020
The idea is that you want to be freed of any constraints in terms of movement, capability,
01:22:47.020 --> 01:22:48.020
that kind of thing.
01:22:48.020 --> 01:22:52.880
And we've been working on all kinds of space programs, aircraft, to do this.
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:53.880
This is the TR-3B.
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:55.380
It's a triangular-shaped object.
01:22:55.380 --> 01:22:59.660
There's a lot of triangle-shaped UFOs and flying saucers that are seen out there.
01:22:59.660 --> 01:23:04.140
Here's some good footage of something that may be that specific aircraft or it may be
01:23:04.220 --> 01:23:06.540
something extraterrestrial.
01:23:06.540 --> 01:23:09.420
But all this stuff has been around for a while.
01:23:09.420 --> 01:23:15.540
Here's a couple of triangle-shaped craft tracking along with a jetliner, probably
01:23:15.540 --> 01:23:19.600
a monitoring craft or a tanker.
01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:26.900
Here's a shot from the ground of a triangular-shaped, wedge-shaped craft flying through the air.
01:23:26.900 --> 01:23:29.660
And here's another shot, enhanced shot of that.
01:23:29.660 --> 01:23:32.300
Now, I've worked on some triangular-shaped aircraft.
01:23:32.460 --> 01:23:33.460
There's one called the A-12.
01:23:33.460 --> 01:23:38.180
We used to call it the Dorito because it looked like a Dorito.
01:23:38.180 --> 01:23:40.140
And there's the disc-shaped craft.
01:23:40.140 --> 01:23:44.720
My feeling is, what I've always felt like is if it looks like a Dorito, it's probably
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:45.720
one of ours.
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:49.300
If it looks like a disc, it's probably one of theirs.
01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:52.420
So Dorito, flying saucer.
01:23:52.420 --> 01:23:54.460
Dorito, flying saucer.
01:23:54.460 --> 01:23:59.580
Now, as we move forward then, what happened was is that in the 1980s, a guy named Mark
01:23:59.580 --> 01:24:03.740
McClendish told a story that there was an air show at Edwards Air Force Base.
01:24:03.740 --> 01:24:04.740
He had a friend go.
01:24:04.740 --> 01:24:06.020
He couldn't go for various reasons.
01:24:06.020 --> 01:24:11.220
But his friend got there and he somehow slipped in with a bunch of these VIPs, military VIPs,
01:24:11.220 --> 01:24:13.740
and went behind this big black curtain.
01:24:13.740 --> 01:24:20.300
And he went back there and he sees these three flying saucers hovering above the hangar floor,
01:24:20.300 --> 01:24:21.300
just floating there.
01:24:21.300 --> 01:24:22.860
No sound, no nothing.
01:24:22.860 --> 01:24:25.900
One of them has a cutaway.
01:24:25.900 --> 01:24:28.380
And inside the cutaway, he can see a lot of details.
01:24:28.380 --> 01:24:36.420
Now remember, in the 1950s, there was a lot of development going on of advanced anti-gravity
01:24:36.420 --> 01:24:37.420
technology.
01:24:37.420 --> 01:24:41.380
This was something that the Defense Department and various defense agencies like Boeing
01:24:41.380 --> 01:24:46.140
and Douglas and Lockheed and Hughes were all trying to hire guys to come in, engineers
01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:49.500
and scientists, to work on anti-gravity.
01:24:49.500 --> 01:24:54.140
There were actually newspaper articles talking about how anti-gravity might work.
01:24:54.140 --> 01:24:55.940
And there was also a history.
01:24:55.980 --> 01:25:01.820
In the 1920s, an American inventor named T. Townsend Brown was doing work with gravity.
01:25:01.820 --> 01:25:04.500
And what he found was some stuff that was really kind of extraordinary.
01:25:04.500 --> 01:25:09.180
What he found was that if you took a disk shape, and there's a very complicated assembly
01:25:09.180 --> 01:25:14.020
process of dielectric layers and things like that of this disk shape and different materials.
01:25:14.020 --> 01:25:20.660
But if you basically took this disk shape and electrified it, what happened was is that
01:25:20.780 --> 01:25:27.100
all of the positively charged ions, electrons, whatever they are, would go to one end of
01:25:27.100 --> 01:25:28.940
the disk for a while.
01:25:28.940 --> 01:25:31.860
And the negatively charged would go to the back end.
01:25:31.860 --> 01:25:35.780
And what would happen is then the disk would move in the direction of the positively charged
01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:37.860
electrical field.
01:25:37.860 --> 01:25:43.180
That violates every law of physics that we exist, that are known to exist.
01:25:43.180 --> 01:25:46.980
It was called the Bifield Brown effect.
01:25:46.980 --> 01:25:49.700
It became the science of electro-gravitics.
01:25:49.740 --> 01:25:55.260
And what he said he thought was happening was that the positively charged area was creating
01:25:55.260 --> 01:25:58.220
a trough of gravity in front.
01:25:58.220 --> 01:26:01.580
And the negatively charged end was creating a bend.
01:26:01.580 --> 01:26:08.180
So you're warping space, gravity, gravity fields to create a wave.
01:26:08.180 --> 01:26:10.320
And then you just surf on the wave.
01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:12.100
It's the warp drive from Star Trek.
01:26:12.100 --> 01:26:13.780
That's how it works.
01:26:13.780 --> 01:26:17.780
What he found is the more massive the disk, the more effective the effect, the stronger
01:26:18.260 --> 01:26:22.300
the effect, the more highly charged the electricity pumped into it, the faster it went.
01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:24.260
And he's actually got patents on this stuff.
01:26:24.260 --> 01:26:25.980
It's all in there about how to build this.
01:26:25.980 --> 01:26:27.780
Nobody's rebuilt it since.
01:26:27.780 --> 01:26:30.700
He looked at various different disk-shaped platforms that might work.
01:26:30.700 --> 01:26:37.140
He built a lot of experimental devices that included theory and stuff of how this would
01:26:37.140 --> 01:26:38.860
actually work.
01:26:38.860 --> 01:26:43.460
This is one of the experimental devices where, again, he found that he took these two disks
01:26:43.460 --> 01:26:46.500
and he charged them up, and they just straight out like that.
01:26:47.060 --> 01:26:48.660
They were trying to keep going in that direction.
01:26:48.660 --> 01:26:52.100
They were generating thrust with no fuel.
01:26:52.100 --> 01:26:53.100
Electricity is not fuel.
01:26:53.100 --> 01:26:54.740
It's just electricity.
01:26:54.740 --> 01:26:57.060
And again, he tried all this different stuff.
01:26:57.060 --> 01:26:59.860
He developed these different technologies.
01:26:59.860 --> 01:27:05.760
And the problem was he couldn't get a whole lot of funding for it.
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:10.380
It is, however, really similar to some warp drive ideas that NASA has talked about, sort
01:27:10.380 --> 01:27:12.420
of a football-shaped object that would do the same thing.
01:27:12.420 --> 01:27:18.660
It would locally distort what they call spacetime or gravity and surf on the wave.
01:27:18.660 --> 01:27:22.940
And the interesting thing about it is that there's no limit to how fast you could go,
01:27:22.940 --> 01:27:27.740
even faster than light, because you can just keep pumping more electricity into it.
01:27:27.740 --> 01:27:33.860
In fact, 100-ton spacecraft, which is bigger than a space shuttle, could, under this system,
01:27:33.860 --> 01:27:36.260
travel to Mars in about five days.
01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:43.460
And the interesting thing is that if you use chemical rockets, it costs you about $450 million
01:27:43.460 --> 01:27:52.180
for a space shuttle launch, and at a cost of like $3 million per kilowatt hour of energy.
01:27:52.180 --> 01:28:01.940
Using Brown's idea, you could go to Mars in five days, 55 million kilometers, for a $25
01:28:02.420 --> 01:28:06.900
in electricity, or about $360 per kilowatt hour.
01:28:06.900 --> 01:28:14.180
Because it would use so little energy to go there.
01:28:14.180 --> 01:28:16.060
This is a pattern of how it would work.
01:28:16.060 --> 01:28:19.580
You know, who's really good at explaining this is Dr. Paul LaVillelette.
01:28:19.580 --> 01:28:23.300
If you know who he is, look him up on YouTube, some of his presentations.
01:28:23.300 --> 01:28:26.540
Brilliant guy, explains this stuff really better than I can.
01:28:26.540 --> 01:28:30.440
This just talks about that you could go to Alpha Centauri.
01:28:30.440 --> 01:28:35.080
You could go to the next closest star, four light years away, faster than the speed of light.
01:28:35.080 --> 01:28:43.960
Now, he does a sub, he models a sublight flight envelope for this.
01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:47.840
But again, there's no reason, according to this technology, why you shouldn't be able
01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:49.520
to go faster than the speed of light.
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:51.720
Because there's no proof, what's that?
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:55.200
Why, I mean, is that, supposing the speed of light isn't actually some limitation?
01:28:55.200 --> 01:28:59.480
Well, what happens with the speed of light is that according to Einstein, who was, let's
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:05.720
face it, wrong about virtually everything at this point, that you create infinite mass.
01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:08.400
Everything gets more and more and more and more massive, and then time begins to slow
01:29:08.400 --> 01:29:12.800
down and gravity intensifies and you eventually just stop.
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:15.560
And this says no, that you could just take these things, you can charge them up with
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.240
electricity and just keep pumping more and more voltage into them, which you can generate
01:29:19.240 --> 01:29:24.840
in a variety of methods, usually basically just solar panels, and get up to the speed
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:25.920
and just go.
01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:27.480
And so that would challenge that.
01:29:27.480 --> 01:29:33.040
Again, if you built a craft like that based on these technologies, based on these ideas,
01:29:33.040 --> 01:29:38.800
you could very quickly do a study and you could put one up into space for very cheap,
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:42.060
because you'd probably have to use at this point chemical rockets.
01:29:42.060 --> 01:29:44.780
But you could put it up there and you could send it out into the solar system and see
01:29:44.780 --> 01:29:46.480
how fast it would go.
01:29:46.480 --> 01:29:47.640
And you would be able to measure the mass.
01:29:47.640 --> 01:29:52.440
And if the mass did not increase, then we'd know that the speed of light was not a speed
01:29:52.440 --> 01:29:53.440
limitation.
01:29:54.360 --> 01:30:00.000
Also there's the argument that locally, if you're warping space like that, that the craft
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.480
itself is not traveling faster than the speed of light.
01:30:02.480 --> 01:30:06.960
It's only traveling, really, there's no movement whatsoever within the field.
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:11.740
It's just that space time is being distorted around it, making it appear to us it's traveling
01:30:11.740 --> 01:30:16.320
faster than the speed of light and appearing to the people on board that is traveling
01:30:16.320 --> 01:30:17.320
faster.
01:30:17.320 --> 01:30:19.320
But I digress, I don't want to do that too much.
01:30:19.320 --> 01:30:21.880
So this technology existed.
01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:26.000
T. Townsend Brown presented this to the Navy in Project 1794, where he said, I'm going
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:28.120
to build the US a flying saucer.
01:30:28.120 --> 01:30:29.120
It's going to work.
01:30:29.120 --> 01:30:30.120
It's based on my theories of gravitation.
01:30:30.120 --> 01:30:34.820
They've been published in these different papers and magazines.
01:30:34.820 --> 01:30:36.360
And you can read all about them.
01:30:36.360 --> 01:30:41.120
He gave this presentation to the US Navy, Army, and Air Force.
01:30:41.120 --> 01:30:46.560
And this was in 1958, where they were again advertising, engineers, scientists, come and
01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:47.560
work on anti-gravity.
01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:51.000
He presented this to them in 1958.
01:30:51.040 --> 01:30:55.200
You heard back from them three months later, they said, thanks, but no thanks.
01:30:55.200 --> 01:31:02.440
And since that time, it's impossible to get any papers on anti-gravity technology published
01:31:02.440 --> 01:31:04.480
in any scientific journal.
01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:06.200
They cut it completely off.
01:31:06.200 --> 01:31:08.440
So what I think is that this was the breakthrough.
01:31:08.440 --> 01:31:10.880
They figured out this is going to work.
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:17.200
And we're going to make sure that we take this out of the public domain.
01:31:17.200 --> 01:31:25.200
So again, this kind of flying saucer idea could have been later developed into something
01:31:25.200 --> 01:31:26.920
called the Alien Reproduction Vehicle.
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:27.920
There's this guy, Mark McClannish.
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:29.080
His friend went there.
01:31:29.080 --> 01:31:31.280
They saw these flying saucers.
01:31:31.280 --> 01:31:36.960
This is supposedly one of the Alien Reproduction Vehicles, the ARV flux liner, very similar
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:40.880
to some 1966 sightings of spacecraft.
01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:45.320
It appears to be, to my mind anyway, based a little bit on the repulsing.
01:31:45.320 --> 01:31:46.460
But it had these cutaways.
01:31:46.460 --> 01:31:51.260
And what his friend said was that in the cutaway, you can see these canisters on the ground
01:31:51.260 --> 01:31:54.820
in a sort of a spiraling formation.
01:31:54.820 --> 01:32:00.780
And what I thought was, wow, maybe that's the red mercury or the Xerum 525 or the NB
01:32:00.780 --> 01:32:01.780
gas.
01:32:01.780 --> 01:32:05.340
Maybe that's part of the technology that was used.
01:32:05.340 --> 01:32:10.620
And he said up above was two pilot seats that were for regular sized humans.
01:32:10.620 --> 01:32:12.460
They were not for little bitty gray aliens.
01:32:12.460 --> 01:32:15.220
So he knew that this was our development.
01:32:15.220 --> 01:32:21.500
So we had been working through various inspirations for a long time to develop these ARV things.
01:32:21.500 --> 01:32:27.340
Again, it's pretty similar in some ways to the alien spacecraft that Abab Lazar talked
01:32:27.340 --> 01:32:30.180
about from Area 51 or S4.
01:32:30.180 --> 01:32:31.460
But there are some differences.
01:32:31.460 --> 01:32:33.660
Ours appears to be a bit more clunky than theirs.
01:32:33.660 --> 01:32:38.300
Theirs is a little bit sportier, a little bit cooler looking.
01:32:38.900 --> 01:32:46.420
Here's why I know that there's secret technology that can take us to the stars.
01:32:46.420 --> 01:32:54.680
If you look at the development of transportation speed, how fast do things go?
01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:58.760
Before the 1800s, basically, you had two methods of transportation.
01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:00.740
You could walk or run.
01:33:00.740 --> 01:33:04.140
Human being can run about 22 miles an hour.
01:33:04.140 --> 01:33:05.740
Maybe Beckham can run a little faster than that.
01:33:05.740 --> 01:33:08.660
I don't know, Dale Beckham, maybe.
01:33:08.660 --> 01:33:11.140
Nobody on the Patriots can run that fast.
01:33:11.140 --> 01:33:15.340
Not the goat, the loathe.
01:33:15.340 --> 01:33:17.180
The luckiest of all time.
01:33:17.180 --> 01:33:19.700
No, he's a good player.
01:33:19.700 --> 01:33:23.340
And then there was a horse and buggy, you know, and that can take us a little bit faster.
01:33:23.340 --> 01:33:25.940
And then we had steam engines, the trains.
01:33:25.940 --> 01:33:27.660
And then we had zeppelins.
01:33:27.660 --> 01:33:29.680
We had propeller airplanes.
01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:31.880
We had jet airplanes.
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:34.320
And then we had rockets.
01:33:34.320 --> 01:33:40.320
So we go from 22 miles an hour in 1800 as our maximum speed, give or take, well, faster
01:33:40.320 --> 01:33:41.320
than that.
01:33:41.320 --> 01:33:43.440
Let's say 30 miles an hour, 35.
01:33:43.440 --> 01:33:49.320
To 17,000, almost 18,000 miles an hour, which is still about the fastest any spacecraft
01:33:49.320 --> 01:33:50.320
has ever gone.
01:33:50.320 --> 01:33:51.560
Chemical rockets.
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:54.680
In a little over 150 years.
01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:56.840
About 1960.
01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:01.520
And then, if you look at that trend curve, that means, wow, look at how we're developing
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:03.360
transportation technology.
01:34:03.360 --> 01:34:05.640
Curve goes straight up.
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:07.120
Until 1960.
01:34:07.120 --> 01:34:10.520
And in 1960, it cuts straight across.
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:13.120
It stops.
01:34:13.120 --> 01:34:17.800
So that's not the way technology develops.
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:21.700
Having worked in the technology industry, it doesn't work that way.
01:34:21.700 --> 01:34:24.420
You keep developing the next thing.
01:34:24.420 --> 01:34:27.000
So what was the next thing that we developed?
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.280
I think it was this flying saucer technology.
01:34:29.280 --> 01:34:30.800
It was tea towns and brown stuff.
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:35.400
It was Einstein's metric tensor torsion fields.
01:34:35.400 --> 01:34:36.800
It was the Nazi bell.
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:39.320
It was alien technology from Roswell.
01:34:39.320 --> 01:34:40.740
It was one of these things.
01:34:40.740 --> 01:34:47.080
But it's not believable that for the last 60, almost 60 years now, there have been
01:34:47.080 --> 01:34:51.440
no propulsion advancements whatsoever.
01:34:51.440 --> 01:34:52.440
It's just not possible.
01:34:52.440 --> 01:34:53.440
They've developed them.
01:34:53.440 --> 01:34:56.160
They just must have taken them and kept them secret.
01:34:56.160 --> 01:34:59.360
Now recently a couple things have happened that are really interesting.
01:34:59.360 --> 01:35:05.280
There is this new thing called the M drive or EM drive.
01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:08.760
And this thing is really fascinating because the Chinese have tested it.
01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:10.080
It works.
01:35:10.080 --> 01:35:11.320
The Americans have tested it.
01:35:11.320 --> 01:35:12.320
It works.
01:35:12.320 --> 01:35:13.320
NASA decided to test it.
01:35:13.320 --> 01:35:14.320
It works.
01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:20.280
And what it basically does is it's a contained, what they call a resonant cavity thruster.
01:35:20.280 --> 01:35:23.880
And the idea, you know, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:25.680
We've all heard that law of physics, right?
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:31.920
Well, the laws of physics, especially the ideal gas law, there's no such law of physics.
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.080
There's no such thing as a law of physics as far as I'm concerned.
01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:36.560
They're all violatable.
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:43.320
And basically what that says is that you cannot move something forward without generating
01:35:43.320 --> 01:35:44.880
thrust.
01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:50.560
But what this thing does is it's a reactionless drive.
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:55.060
And a lot of the scientists have said, you know, I don't know if this is really possible.
01:35:55.060 --> 01:35:59.340
The issue is the entire concept of a reactionless drive is inconsistent with Newton's conservation
01:35:59.340 --> 01:36:05.520
of momentum, which states that within a closed system, and what that means is, when I say
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:08.240
closed system, they mean this universe.
01:36:08.240 --> 01:36:09.340
That's the closed system.
01:36:09.340 --> 01:36:13.900
That means that all the energy that ever existed or ever will exist in this universe happened
01:36:13.900 --> 01:36:16.300
and was created in the Big Bang.
01:36:16.300 --> 01:36:20.680
And it's a closed system and you can't get any more energy in from anywhere else.
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:22.500
The rotational stuff defies that.
01:36:22.780 --> 01:36:26.340
Not true, but that's the theory.
01:36:26.340 --> 01:36:31.300
Within the closed system, linear and angular momentum, spin and motion remain constant
01:36:31.300 --> 01:36:34.060
regardless of any changes that take place within the said system.
01:36:34.060 --> 01:36:38.940
More plainly, unless an outside force is applied, an object will not move.
01:36:38.940 --> 01:36:48.380
Yet what happens is, when they bounce microwaves around the inside of this thruster, which
01:36:48.380 --> 01:36:51.920
is nothing but a cavity, they just have a little bit of electrical power.
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:58.800
They amp up the microwaves, they bounce around on the inside here, and the thing moves in
01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:00.880
the direction of the open end.
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.680
How many pounds of thrust?
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:06.400
Very little, a few millinewtons.
01:37:06.400 --> 01:37:11.200
But again, this is a design that simply can be scaled up by pumping more electricity into
01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:12.200
it.
01:37:12.200 --> 01:37:17.420
And again, the laws of physics say that's impossible, but we now have multiple tests
01:37:17.420 --> 01:37:19.600
that say it has happened and it is happening.
01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:25.360
And again, this thing, scaled up, could be very similar to T. Townsend Brown's designs
01:37:25.360 --> 01:37:29.880
for his flying disks and could be used as an engine to go to the stars.
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:36.400
There's apparently no upper limit on what could happen.
01:37:36.400 --> 01:37:39.640
So what I try to do is say, okay, these are all the different ways we could have a secret
01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:40.640
space program.
01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:44.240
There's a lot more stuff in the book, there's a lot more things that I bring up.
01:37:44.240 --> 01:37:47.940
I bring up Serpo.org, is that really a real thing?
01:37:47.940 --> 01:37:52.060
Or they talk about going to these different planets, or any of these things possible?
01:37:52.060 --> 01:37:54.180
What kinds of things has NASA done secretly?
01:37:54.180 --> 01:38:00.900
But what I wanted to show you at the end of this is that, yeah, we have built these ARV
01:38:00.900 --> 01:38:03.440
technologies and we've actually seen them.
01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:09.260
And I'm going to show you them right now.
01:38:09.260 --> 01:38:11.500
Assuming I can hit the button.
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Now there are a couple videos that are pretty famous from the space shuttle.
01:38:15.540 --> 01:38:25.980
This one is from STS-48 and it is from the early 1990s.
01:38:25.980 --> 01:38:32.940
And what's happening is that the spacecraft is moving along towards Australia.
01:38:32.940 --> 01:38:36.060
The cameras pointed out the back of the shuttle.
01:38:36.060 --> 01:38:41.980
And what you're seeing is some of these are stars and some of these objects are not stars.
01:38:41.980 --> 01:38:48.620
They're floating along, some of them on changing trajectories, very lazily, nothing really
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big is happening.
01:38:49.620 --> 01:38:52.460
But in a second you're going to see something happen right here.
01:38:52.460 --> 01:38:56.420
Now this is the actual hard horizon line of the earth.
01:38:56.420 --> 01:38:59.500
This upper layer is called the airglow layer.
01:38:59.500 --> 01:39:00.580
That's the atmosphere.
01:39:00.580 --> 01:39:02.860
That's the lip of the atmosphere.
01:39:02.860 --> 01:39:08.820
And as they're filming this over Pine Gap, Australia, where there is a huge CIA military
01:39:08.820 --> 01:39:12.260
base, this happens.
01:39:12.260 --> 01:39:16.260
Hopefully the timing is just about right.
01:39:16.260 --> 01:39:20.700
Right in there you're going to see something really interesting.
01:39:20.700 --> 01:39:22.180
An object pops up.
01:39:22.180 --> 01:39:26.260
It moves from right to left along the horizon.
01:39:26.260 --> 01:39:44.220
Then you will see a bright flash and then two streaks go past whatever that was.
01:39:44.220 --> 01:39:51.700
Let's watch it again.
01:39:51.700 --> 01:39:55.820
Now what's happening is that he's popping up over the visible horizon, traveling at
01:39:55.820 --> 01:39:59.180
a pretty good clip right to left on our screen.
01:39:59.180 --> 01:40:10.980
The flash goes off and then he gets shot at by one streak and then there's another one
01:40:10.980 --> 01:40:12.460
down here shooting at the other one.
01:40:12.460 --> 01:40:14.460
I think shooting at this guy.
01:40:14.460 --> 01:40:15.880
They missed by a mile.
01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:18.380
That turn that he makes is a 45 degree angle turn.
01:40:18.380 --> 01:40:21.180
Dr. Jack Casher from Nebraska has analyzed it.
01:40:22.180 --> 01:40:26.580
He says that the object actually comes to a complete stop for 1.5 seconds after the
01:40:26.580 --> 01:40:37.540
flash then turns at a 45 degree angle and accelerates to I want to say 23,000 miles
01:40:37.540 --> 01:40:39.860
an hour in a split second.
01:40:39.860 --> 01:40:46.580
The inertial forces of that are the equivalent of dropping a 14 story building on your head.
01:40:46.580 --> 01:40:51.460
El Blaine could survive that absence of some sort of inertial dampening field around the
01:40:51.460 --> 01:40:52.460
craft.
01:40:52.460 --> 01:40:54.300
Now, I show this at MUFON OC.
01:40:54.300 --> 01:40:56.020
I talked to El Blaine Hammond.
01:40:56.020 --> 01:40:58.580
Hammond is a guy who goes to the OC meetings.
01:40:58.580 --> 01:40:59.820
He's a former NASA astronaut.
01:40:59.820 --> 01:41:00.820
He's a pilot.
01:41:00.820 --> 01:41:05.140
I said people have said that that flash is just a thruster going off.
01:41:05.140 --> 01:41:06.140
He said no.
01:41:06.140 --> 01:41:08.340
The thrusters don't look anything like that.
01:41:08.340 --> 01:41:10.580
They never go off like that.
01:41:10.580 --> 01:41:13.060
Whatever that flash is, it's completely different.
01:41:13.060 --> 01:41:18.380
What I think is that people, and again there's multiple other objects here, he said they
01:41:18.380 --> 01:41:21.380
were shooting at it.
01:41:21.380 --> 01:41:27.180
I don't think ET is going to call us up and say we're going to be over Australia at such
01:41:27.180 --> 01:41:28.180
and such a time.
01:41:28.180 --> 01:41:31.740
Make sure you're filming and why don't you try shooting at us and you guys can test your
01:41:31.740 --> 01:41:32.740
new weapons.
01:41:32.740 --> 01:41:35.580
That was a weapons test of the ARV to see if it would work.
01:41:35.580 --> 01:41:45.580
Now I got one more that's even more incredible from a mission called STS-80.
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This is over Santiago, Chile.
01:41:47.060 --> 01:41:52.580
I want you to pay attention right in this area here because you're going to see something
01:41:52.580 --> 01:41:58.680
really extraordinary in just a second.
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Shoot out of Santiago, Chile.
01:42:01.540 --> 01:42:03.580
What was that?
01:42:03.580 --> 01:42:04.580
You see that?
01:42:04.580 --> 01:42:11.100
I call it the tadpole because that's what it looks like.
01:42:11.100 --> 01:42:15.180
Let's play it back.
01:42:15.180 --> 01:42:21.600
It shoots right up, wobbling into the sky.
01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:26.060
They were obviously watching for it to be launched.
01:42:26.060 --> 01:42:29.660
Some sort of experimental craft.
01:42:29.660 --> 01:42:33.500
Then the video goes on and it's a little boring for a while.
01:42:33.500 --> 01:42:34.500
They keep looking down.
01:42:34.500 --> 01:42:36.860
There's electrical storms going on.
01:42:36.860 --> 01:42:53.980
Then what happens is an object appears from the right side of the screen.
01:42:53.980 --> 01:42:58.220
This is the best part, ladies.
01:42:58.220 --> 01:43:03.500
They're zooming the camera up now.
01:43:03.500 --> 01:43:04.500
That's why it's kind of fading.
01:43:04.500 --> 01:43:06.500
I think they're trying to get a close-up of something.
01:43:06.500 --> 01:43:16.820
Let me move it up a little bit more.
01:43:16.820 --> 01:43:25.140
Shoot did not want to do that.
01:43:25.140 --> 01:43:36.860
Anyway, is there in close-up from the lower part of the screen, an object appears.
01:43:36.860 --> 01:43:43.940
Why is this still up?
01:43:43.940 --> 01:43:46.460
Flies right into the frame, hits the atmosphere.
01:43:46.460 --> 01:43:47.460
What's that?
01:43:47.460 --> 01:43:48.460
Hits the atmosphere.
01:43:48.460 --> 01:43:49.540
Look at that thing flare up.
01:43:49.540 --> 01:43:53.220
What's happening is that it is electrostatically charged.
01:43:53.220 --> 01:43:54.220
It hits the atmosphere.
01:43:54.300 --> 01:43:59.060
It flares up and then it slows down.
01:43:59.060 --> 01:44:05.420
Now NASA's explanations for all of these objects in these two videos is ice crystals.
01:44:05.420 --> 01:44:08.820
Ice crystals can't slow down in space.
01:44:08.820 --> 01:44:09.820
There's no friction.
01:44:09.820 --> 01:44:12.540
They can't even slow down in the upper atmosphere.
01:44:12.540 --> 01:44:14.140
Notice it's now stopped.
01:44:14.140 --> 01:44:15.140
It's stationary.
01:44:15.140 --> 01:44:19.060
What that actually means is it's now station keeping with the space shuttle.
01:44:19.060 --> 01:44:23.660
It's matched speed with the shuttle so it's keeping the same distance.
01:44:24.100 --> 01:44:28.260
As this footage progresses, and you see all these other little weird objects all over
01:44:28.260 --> 01:44:33.180
the place, as this footage progresses it just continues to hold its position.
01:44:33.180 --> 01:44:34.340
Continues to hold its position.
01:44:34.340 --> 01:44:42.460
Again, anything in space or the upper atmosphere that is doing that is a powered vehicle.
01:44:42.460 --> 01:44:44.780
It's not anything natural.
01:44:44.780 --> 01:44:45.780
He's going to stay there.
01:44:45.780 --> 01:44:46.780
He's going to stay there.
01:44:46.780 --> 01:44:47.780
Here comes another one.
01:44:47.780 --> 01:44:48.780
Up here.
01:44:48.780 --> 01:44:51.300
That guy right there.
01:44:51.300 --> 01:44:52.300
See that guy?
01:44:52.940 --> 01:44:59.900
It's weird in that they're either causing the electrical storm, another thing shoots
01:44:59.900 --> 01:45:02.620
by, or they're sucking energy out.
01:45:02.620 --> 01:45:08.300
Oh, there's another one hitting the atmosphere.
01:45:08.300 --> 01:45:09.300
He goes for a while.
01:45:09.300 --> 01:45:12.300
He also slows down.
01:45:13.300 --> 01:45:28.300
Now, this original guy, he's like, okay, I'm tired of sitting here.
01:45:28.300 --> 01:45:32.300
What I'm going to do now is I'm going to head back the way I came.
01:45:32.300 --> 01:45:35.300
So, he starts moving again.
01:45:35.300 --> 01:45:39.300
A couple other objects come up to meet him.
01:45:40.300 --> 01:45:42.300
Now, he's cleared the atmosphere.
01:45:42.300 --> 01:45:45.300
It's not as bright as it used to be.
01:45:47.300 --> 01:45:49.300
Another guy over there.
01:45:49.300 --> 01:45:53.300
They're going to form a nice cute little triangle here.
01:46:01.300 --> 01:46:03.300
See that one didn't really merge with him.
01:46:03.300 --> 01:46:06.300
He moved behind him or in front of him.
01:46:07.300 --> 01:46:11.300
NASA's obviously very interested in these three little guys because they're focusing
01:46:11.300 --> 01:46:12.300
on them.
01:46:18.300 --> 01:46:26.300
It goes on because there's 14 different events on STS-48 and I think 11 different events
01:46:26.300 --> 01:46:27.300
on STS-80.
01:46:27.300 --> 01:46:30.300
If you go look for the full footage of these things, you'll see all kinds of extraordinary
01:46:30.300 --> 01:46:31.300
stuff.
01:46:31.300 --> 01:46:32.300
The point is this.
01:46:32.300 --> 01:46:38.300
They just did things that cannot be done by anything other than powered vehicles.
01:46:38.300 --> 01:46:44.300
They have performance envelopes that match the alien reproduction vehicle, the ARV.
01:46:44.300 --> 01:46:48.300
They actually look like alien technology, the kind of stuff that we were developing.
01:46:48.300 --> 01:46:53.300
So, what I think we're looking at is actual real footage filmed by NASA, probably not
01:46:53.300 --> 01:47:00.300
ET, of extraterrestrial spacecraft or extraterrestrial derived spacecraft operating in the upper
01:47:00.300 --> 01:47:01.300
atmosphere.
01:47:01.300 --> 01:47:03.300
So, does the secret space program exist?
01:47:03.300 --> 01:47:08.300
Yeah, it does because we can look at this entire history of the attempt to develop this
01:47:08.300 --> 01:47:13.300
anti-gravity technology and we actually have videos of it operating in low Earth orbit
01:47:13.300 --> 01:47:15.300
filmed by the space shuttle.
01:47:15.300 --> 01:47:20.300
Obviously, the astronauts say, Blaine says, that we don't know what they're doing with
01:47:20.300 --> 01:47:21.300
the cameras.
01:47:21.300 --> 01:47:24.300
They got us busy all the time doing other stuff.
01:47:24.300 --> 01:47:26.300
They're not looking at what's out the back.
01:47:26.300 --> 01:47:31.300
So, I think these were pre-arranged demonstrations of the technology.
01:47:36.300 --> 01:47:37.300
Any other questions?
01:47:37.300 --> 01:47:38.300
Yeah, I do.
01:47:38.300 --> 01:47:46.300
Supercharging TR3B creates the anti-gravity effects, obviously.
01:47:46.300 --> 01:47:48.300
Do you have anything else you'd like to explain?
01:47:48.300 --> 01:47:53.300
Any other effects that could possibly contribute to something else happening?
01:47:53.300 --> 01:47:58.300
For instance, I think cloaking, invisibility?
01:47:58.300 --> 01:48:00.300
Yeah, I would think so.
01:48:00.300 --> 01:48:05.300
See-through cloaking technology is probably another aspect of that that would work.
01:48:05.300 --> 01:48:09.300
The ability to blink in and blink out.
01:48:09.300 --> 01:48:14.300
One of the weird things, especially in the 1952 stuff, if you read the history of the
01:48:14.300 --> 01:48:18.300
1952 sightings over the capital, there was a lot of that blinking in and blinking out
01:48:18.300 --> 01:48:21.300
of existence stuff that happened.
01:48:21.300 --> 01:48:23.300
And that's like, wow, how do you do that?
01:48:23.300 --> 01:48:25.300
That's pretty crazy stuff.
01:48:25.300 --> 01:48:30.300
Well, supercharging these SRVs would actually explain that.
01:48:30.300 --> 01:48:31.300
Yeah, ARVs, yeah.
01:48:31.300 --> 01:48:38.300
Are you aware about George Vatavantas's claims that the thing in Washington, D.C.
01:48:38.300 --> 01:48:42.300
was told to him by aliens before it happened?
01:48:42.300 --> 01:48:45.300
Yeah, I'm not totally aware of that.
01:48:45.300 --> 01:48:49.300
Check out the George Vatavantas Rotary Club interviews.
01:48:49.300 --> 01:48:50.300
Okay.
01:48:50.300 --> 01:48:51.300
It goes into it.
01:48:51.300 --> 01:48:52.300
Okay, sounds good.
01:48:52.300 --> 01:49:02.300
Also, do you know in the 1960s, 61 or 62, that there was a 25 cent comic book that showed Nazis as...
01:49:02.300 --> 01:49:03.300
Aliens.
01:49:03.300 --> 01:49:05.300
Aliens and all kinds of weapons.
01:49:05.300 --> 01:49:08.300
That'd be cool because that'd be good to add to this aspect of it.
01:49:08.300 --> 01:49:12.300
Yeah, was there anything about Sonora in particular, why that was chosen?
01:49:12.300 --> 01:49:15.300
I'm talking about geomagnetically.
01:49:15.300 --> 01:49:17.300
No, I would like to look at the latitude.
01:49:17.300 --> 01:49:19.300
I'm not sure what the exact latitude is.
01:49:19.300 --> 01:49:21.300
There's another website called Sonora Sightings.
01:49:21.300 --> 01:49:22.300
Right.
01:49:22.300 --> 01:49:25.300
That was in the 80s and 90s.
01:49:25.300 --> 01:49:29.300
And my family was living up there and they've seen TR3Vs.
01:49:29.300 --> 01:49:30.300
Yeah.
01:49:30.300 --> 01:49:34.300
They've seen a lot of weird aerial phenomena up there.
01:49:34.300 --> 01:49:37.300
I just want to know if there's still something going on up there.
01:49:37.300 --> 01:49:38.300
I would assume so.
01:49:38.300 --> 01:49:41.300
I mean, if it's a good place to test, it's isolated, you might stay there.
01:49:41.300 --> 01:49:42.300
You might do that.
01:49:42.300 --> 01:49:43.300
Yeah, Sean, what's up?
01:49:43.300 --> 01:49:52.300
Yeah, I'm just curious as to if the Nazis had developed those disk-o-vo-co-crap and you just hauskungler those run-of-the-programs...
01:49:52.300 --> 01:49:53.300
Right.
01:49:53.300 --> 01:49:59.300
...why would they not have used that to stop the invasion of the Allies as opposed to just...
01:49:59.300 --> 01:50:02.300
Well, there weren't enough of the flying saucers.
01:50:02.300 --> 01:50:06.300
There were just a few prototypes and they wanted to go and keep developing.
01:50:06.300 --> 01:50:11.300
Yeah, which the theory is that they developed them at underground bases in Antarctica.
01:50:11.300 --> 01:50:13.300
Were they weaponized yet?
01:50:13.300 --> 01:50:22.300
Well, if you look at some of the images, those round things on the bottom look like gun turrets where they have conventional cannons and machine guns and stuff.
01:50:22.300 --> 01:50:24.300
So I think that's what they...
01:50:24.300 --> 01:50:33.300
They basically had the super advanced transportation technology that they then coupled with the existing weaponry they had.
01:50:33.300 --> 01:50:35.300
They didn't have time to really develop.
01:50:35.300 --> 01:50:46.300
Although, clearly, out of all these different technologies, there's definitely a possibility that you could develop weapons from them too.
01:50:46.300 --> 01:50:50.300
And then, Jim, wait for it.
01:50:50.300 --> 01:50:51.300
Sure.
01:50:51.300 --> 01:50:59.300
When you're talking about the EM drive and being able to go past a speed of light, would the warp field around it...
01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:04.300
The thing about going so fast in space is you run into a rock or something.
01:51:04.300 --> 01:51:05.300
Right.
01:51:05.300 --> 01:51:06.300
So how...
01:51:06.300 --> 01:51:14.300
Well, not for the EM drive specifically, but the T-Townsend Brown technology.
01:51:14.300 --> 01:51:20.300
There's been some experimenting done by a Russian named Podletkov.
01:51:20.300 --> 01:51:23.300
And he's worked with devices.
01:51:23.300 --> 01:51:30.300
And again, I would refer you to Dr. Paul Laviolette's videos on this that are online on YouTube.
01:51:30.300 --> 01:51:41.300
He's actually built a version of it where it shoots a beam out the front that appears to go on almost infinitely that basically deflects things.
01:51:41.300 --> 01:51:46.300
It's like the deflector dish on the USS Enterprise that it was supposed to do.
01:51:46.300 --> 01:51:55.300
So, yeah, that's a subset of the actual transportation technology.
01:51:55.300 --> 01:51:58.300
So apparently that has been worked on by some scientists and physicists.
01:51:58.300 --> 01:52:04.300
So Podletkov... I don't know how to pronounce his name, but it's something like that.
01:52:04.300 --> 01:52:07.300
Has done a lot of work along those lines.
01:52:07.300 --> 01:52:18.300
So, you know, I mean, obviously, if you can get to Alpha Centauri at sub speed light, the sub speed, sub light speeds, it's, you know, getting there in five or six years wouldn't be that bad.
01:52:18.300 --> 01:52:22.300
But, you know, sure would be cool to get there in two if we could protect the craft.
01:52:22.300 --> 01:52:24.300
But, yeah, you're right. That's a concern.
01:52:24.300 --> 01:52:28.300
There's about maybe 40 seconds left on the DVD.
01:52:28.300 --> 01:52:31.300
Okay. I'd like everybody just to know that...
01:52:31.300 --> 01:52:32.300
You know, any websites when you think...
01:52:32.300 --> 01:52:36.300
Yeah, I'm, you know, just type Mike Barrett into Google.
01:52:36.300 --> 01:52:38.300
It'll bring up my site, MikeBarrett.blogspot.com.
01:52:38.300 --> 01:52:43.300
My books are all available on Amazon or directly from Adventures Unlimited.
01:52:43.300 --> 01:52:44.300
I hope you read them. I hope you enjoy them.
01:52:44.300 --> 01:52:47.300
I hope I didn't bore the crap out of you tonight.
01:52:47.300 --> 01:52:52.300
You know, there's just... I just wanted to get to the substance of is it possible that these secret space programs exist?
01:52:52.300 --> 01:52:54.300
You can follow me on Twitter.
01:52:54.300 --> 01:52:59.300
It's MikeBarrett33, although I tend to talk about non-alien things there a lot.
01:52:59.300 --> 01:53:02.300
And I have a Facebook page. I have a Facebook fan page.
01:53:02.300 --> 01:53:04.300
And that's all business.
01:53:04.300 --> 01:53:06.300
And, you know, I hope that I get to see you guys again.
01:53:06.300 --> 01:53:08.300
And thank you very much for coming.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.