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As I said, I'm going to talk to you today about unsolved mysteries, ancient civilizations,
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ancient artifacts, and why government agencies all around the world are interested in these
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mysteries.
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And the first story I uncovered related to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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I don't know if it's just me, but it's kind of warm up here.
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Now the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947 at a place called Qomran on the Dead
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Sea, hence the name.
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And this was in January 1947.
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And they're sort of the earliest religious texts that talk about the sort of very earliest
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portions of the Bible.
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And they're on public display now.
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You can go and see them.
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Back in 47, when they were first found, it was just sort of very much a new discovery.
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And so they pretty much just fell into the hands of religious scholars.
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Now 1947 was an interesting year.
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It was the year of the Roswell Incident, which was in July 47.
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In June 47, that was sort of the beginning of the year of flying saucers when a pilot
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named Kenneth Arnold saw a fleet of UFOs over Washington State.
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It was also the year the CIA was created.
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And it was the year that the US government passed the National Security Act.
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So in other words, 1947 had a lot of weird stuff and historic stuff going on in literally
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across about January to September of that year.
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And right in the middle of it was the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Now again, you would imagine like with Stonehenge, that the Dead Sea Scrolls would just be something
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of interest to biblical experts, archaeologists, people like that, historians.
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But the weird story is that the CIA got very interested in the story of the Dead Sea Scrolls
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in July 1947.
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And a few files have surfaced on this investigation, but most of the stories come from a man named
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Miles Copeland.
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And Miles Copeland was a senior operative in the CIA.
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And just as an a little aside, it's nothing to do with the story.
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He was actually the father of Stuart Copeland, who was the drummer with the police, the band,
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which is nothing to do with the story itself.
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It's kind of like a little weird aspect of the story.
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But Miles Copeland was a heavily and highly decorated employee of the CIA.
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And in 1947, just after the CIA was established, he headed up the Damascus office in the Middle
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East, because the CIA was sort of setting up offices around the world to try and determine
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who was going to be the next big threat after the defeat of the Germans in the Second World War.
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Of course, obviously, we know it was the Soviets.
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And so Miles Copeland headed up the Damascus office.
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And many years after his retirement, he went on record as stating that on one particular
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day when he was in the office, which was buried inside the American embassy, they didn't sort
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of promote the fact that there was no sign outside saying CIA office, knock and please come in.
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You know, it was nothing like that.
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It was inside the American embassy.
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And on one particular day, a guy turned up in sort of flowing Bedouin type robes and carrying
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this parcel and said he needed to speak to somebody in a position of authority.
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So the secretary at the front desk of the embassy referred him to Miles Copeland.
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And Copeland spoke out publicly years later, not until the late 1980s, about how
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he'd invited this guy into his office.
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And he unfolded this huge ream of scrolls, very much like this, but not sort of separate pages,
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kind of just like a completely rolled up piece that just rolled out to something like about 20 feet
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of scrolls.
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And he realized it was something significant, but obviously didn't know what it was because
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it was written in an ancient language, which he wasn't obviously familiar with.
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So he quickly got a friend involved, a man named Kermit Roosevelt, who did contract work for the
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CIA and who was very conversant in Middle Eastern languages, both modern and ancient.
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And so Roosevelt came in and they concluded, at least tentatively, that this documentation
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was all related to the book of Daniel and also to do with a lot of prophecies and future
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predictions and things like that.
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Now, the next step was they took this entire sort of roll of scrolls to the roof of the embassy
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and photographed it step by step.
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They rolled it all out and sort of just took a picture here, a picture there, and moved
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along so they would record everything.
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And the scrolls and the photographs were sent off to the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
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Now, Copeland himself found this very, very weird, the fact that, well, he was a historical
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mystery and suddenly CIA headquarters is saying, we want this and we want it now, send it over.
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So everything was packaged up and sent by courier on aircraft to the United States.
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And Copeland tried time and time again to figure out what was going on, what research was being
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done with this particular scroll.
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He couldn't get to the bottom of the mystery at all.
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And despite the fact that he was the guy who photographed it and essentially was responsible
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for its discovery and its insertion into the CIA, nobody at a higher level would tell him.
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It was basically, now he passed it on, he was out of the loop.
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But he never forgot this story and said, you know, there was something strange about it.
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The guy brought it in, he just wanted to offload it to me.
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I sent it to the CIA and then it was like a brick wall.
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There was no answer.
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And if that was the end of the story, then potentially we would be at a brick wall.
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But there's actually another very even stranger aspect to it.
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That's a photograph of the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico.
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Much of the work of the White Sands Missile Range, which goes back to the 1940s,
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revolves around testing new rockets, missile systems.
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And much of it occurs behind those mountains.
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It's sort of like a New Mexico equivalent of Area 51.
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A very sort of secret, highly fortified base where a lot of the early rocketry research that
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led to the fact that the Russians didn't attack in the Cold War was because a lot of
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high level and good rocketry was developed that prevented them from launching a sneak attack
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because they knew that they would get destroyed in the process as well.
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So the White Sands Missile Range, highly fortified, secret sensitive installation.
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In the 1980s and the 1990s, a number of so-called whistleblowers came forward to talk about their
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knowledge of a UFO crash somewhere on the White Sands Missile Range in 1947.
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Bear in mind this was the summer of 1947 in New Mexico.
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There are parallels with the Roswell incident which occurred in the same month
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and in New Mexico.
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But it's pretty clear they're talking about a different event because the Roswell case
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didn't occur on the White Sands Missile Range.
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So there may have been, as a number of researchers have suggested, several crashes
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in New Mexico in 1947.
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Now according to the people who came forward and spoke to two researchers, one named William
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Steinman and the other one called Bill Cooper, when the military retrieval team got out to this
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crashed UFO on White Sands and they made their way inside it, apparently it was sort of very badly
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wrecked from the outside and they were able to get in.
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They found what looked like reams and reams of something like the Dead Sea Scrolls,
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very similar to the ones that Miles Copeland examined in Damascus.
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Again, they were sort of rolled and could be unfurled out and contain this ancient
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Middle Eastern text.
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Now this in itself kind of suggests that there was some sort of extraterrestrial component
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to these scrolls.
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And that seems to tie in with, time-wise at least, with the CIA's interest because it was
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the military that recovered the saucer in New Mexico, but it was the CIA that was involved
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in the events in Damascus.
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And yet somehow they came together.
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And as far as we can tell at least, this seems to be the beginnings of when this project was
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created to look into the mysteries of the past and kind of view archaeology and ancient history,
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not just from a historical perspective, but from a national security angle as well.
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And try and figure out, you know, these scrolls clearly aren't just stand-alone ancient
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documents.
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There seemed to be some sort of connection with extraterrestrials and that then set them on the
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path of trying to figure out what the connection was and was it still going on in some fashion.
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Now kind of even weirder than the Dead Sea Scrolls story is the story of the CIA and Noah's Ark.
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Most people, probably everybody, is familiar with the story of Noah's Ark and how it came
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to rest after the flood on Mount Ararat and you have the story about two by two animals
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loaded upon this gigantic wooden ark.
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Well, the official story, that's the sort of biblical story, there's actually a different
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story within the CIA and within the Pentagon.
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They actually have numerous files which extend to literally hundreds and hundreds of pages,
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not all of which have been declassified on Noah's Ark, but within the CIA and the Pentagon,
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they don't call it Noah's Ark, they call it the Ararat Anomaly.
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That's the official name for it.
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The reason why it's called the Ararat Anomaly is because on a number of occasions,
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US Air Force personnel and spy satellites have filmed or photographed something very near the
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top of Mount Ararat that is a definitive anomaly.
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Now as to what the nature of that anomaly is, that's the big question.
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I actually got hold of a number of photographs taken by the US Air Force back in 1949,
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the original pictures.
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And that's one of the pictures and that there is one of the anomalies.
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I say one of the anomalies because when they did the investigation and took the photographs,
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they actually found two objects very similar to that, that several of the aircrew described
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as looking like wings.
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Now the story is that in the summer of 1949, a US Air Force plane was flying across Turkey
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towards the border of the Soviet Union.
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What they were going to actually do was, this was a spy plane, they were going to photograph
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a new military base that the Soviets were building on the border with Turkey.
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Now Turkey, they're our friends, they're members of NATO, so for the Russians to be building a new
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military base right on the border was kind of the European equivalent of the Russians putting
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missiles in Cuba.
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You know, it was that close to Europe, it would have been a major threat.
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And so the Air Force went to take pictures of this particular military base the Russians
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were building and they flew over Mount Ararat as like a guiding line for where they had to go to.
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As they flew over it, one of the guys, bear in mind this was a bomber, so there was like four or
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five people on board, not just like a pilot in a fighter plane.
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One of the guys said he could see something on the side of the mountain that looked weird,
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so they got permission to sort of swing the plane around and take a picture.
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And that's one of the pictures of a collection of about nine or ten.
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And from the, as you can see, I mean that's pretty much near part of the peak of the mountain,
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that was taken at a height of about 15,000 feet.
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Now, you know, you think of Turkey, you think of sort of desert and hot climates,
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which it actually is, but Mount Ararat is so high, I think it's like 18,000 something feet.
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Pretty much all year round, it kind of looks like Mount Everest because it's that high,
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you know, it's icy and snowy.
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And whatever this object was, it was sort of semi-buried in the ice.
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They described it as like a wing type structure, about 600 feet long.
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And as they were photographing it, one of the guys said he could see a similar object,
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kind of over here, which would have been, you know, probably five or six hundred feet
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further away from it. But it was described as very similar.
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So you had these two large wing-like structures sticking out of the ice,
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which clearly weren't large boats. They seem more like flat wings.
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Potentially sort of concave with a, as if there was like a central area semi-hollowed out.
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So they photographed all of this, then continued on with the original journey
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to photograph the military base and then returned to their home base, which was in Germany,
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and said, okay, we got the pictures of the Russian military base,
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but you're not going to believe what else we photographed.
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And that began the research into the story of Noah's Ark.
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And the primary reason why the military got involved, and he gets into controversial areas
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for people who sort of take the Bible literally, because they came to believe
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that whatever this object was, it wasn't a large boat.
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And they actually, a lot of people in the Pentagon came to believe something even
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more intriguing, which I'll get to shortly. But again, when a number of papers surfaced
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through the Freedom of Information Act on this, I sort of filed a full request with the CIA
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to try and get their entire file on the so-called Ararat anomaly.
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They didn't release the whole file, but they did release to me about 50 or 60 pages.
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And the pages they released, at least, talk about this particular case, going back to 49,
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and the file extends to about 1994. One of the most interesting things about the file,
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which demonstrates the sheer extent to which the CIA looked into all this, was that in 1975,
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a guy named Fernand Navarro gave a lecture at a shopping mall in Washington, D.C.
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And agents of the CIA Science and Technology Office actually went out and sat in the audience
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and listened to his lecture and prepared a complete report on what he was talking about
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and his expedition to look for Noah's Ark. So, in other words, when we look at this issue of how
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deeply the CIA was involved in the investigation of Noah's Ark, when you find they're actually
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sending agents out to sit in the audience at lectures, you find the answer is very deeply.
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That's how deeply they're looking into it. And of course, it begs the question why.
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Well, a lot of the answers, at least, or tentative answers that the CIA and the military came up
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with, relate to a man named George Van Tassel. If you were at the lecture last night, excuse me,
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the roundtable Q&A. George Van Tassel's name came up. He was one of the 1950s contactees
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who claimed contact with human-like aliens out in the California desert. And he built this
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construction called the Integratron, which is like a huge building, which is designed to sort
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of rejuvenate human life or extend lifespans and rejuvenate cells, that kind of thing.
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And Van Tassel would hold conferences out at a place called Landers, California, called Giant
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Rock. And it's not too far from Joshua Tree. And you can still go out there and go into the
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Integratron. And it's actually brilliantly built. It's like this huge wooden construction,
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two-story building. And Van Tassel said it was built on the sort of directions of extraterrestrials
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that channeled the information to him. And what's notable about the Integratron is it doesn't
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contain any nuts, screws, bolts, nails, or anything. It's kind of like one of these sort
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of Chinese puzzles where everything interlocks. And yet it's like, imagine a room twice as wide
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as this and then a second floor on top and a rounded roof. That's the Integratron. And it's
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sort of an incredible building when you consider there's just, there's no, there's nothing to hold
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it together other than itself. That's how it's held together. And Van Tassel was someone who
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sort of really predated by decades people like Eric Von Daniken, Zachariah Sitchin,
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in terms of the ancient astronaut scenario. And Van Tassel claimed that his alien contacts had
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told him that all these stories around the world about arks in the distant past and animals on
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board, and actually a lot of stories of a great flood and where different nations talked about
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somebody was selected from this country or that country to build a huge boat and animals would be
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taken on board, et cetera. You can find them everywhere. But Van Tassel sources claim that
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all these stories are sort of distorted tales of alien spacecraft that came to the earth when
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they realized there was going to be this sort of gigantic flood. And so what they did was to
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create this armada of almost like cosmic spacesuits where they would come down in these gigantic
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motherships, if you like, and collect examples of the animal life and the human life, which,
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because they knew this flood was coming, and then they would sort of take them into earth orbit.
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And then when the flood waters receded, they could kind of reseed the planet again with life.
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And the story that Van Tassel got was that one of these cosmic zoos, if you like, crashed on Mount
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Ararat. And so in other words, you had this alien spacecraft full of hundreds and hundreds of animal
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specimens. And then over time, it became distorted as an arc created by God, if you like, to survive
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the flood. And it was this particular angle that got the CIA and the Air Force very interested.
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As you can imagine, you know, if the anomaly is some sort of spacecraft erect like an early
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Roswell, an ancient Roswell, then that would be a major prize to recover it and see what technology
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is contained within it. Now, unfortunately, although there have been a number of expeditions
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to Mount Ararat, certainly to lower levels to look for whatever might be on the mountain,
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you know, something like an ancient wooden arc, nobody really has had a chance to investigate that
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one particular alleged arc and the other one that's close by, partly because of the height
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and also because the Turkish government just really doesn't want people trampling all over
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the mountain and digging things up. So that's why so much of the evidence is reliant on
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photographs like this and film footage taken by spy satellites that have been
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sort of directed over Turkey to take pictures. But we do have a number of, again, unfortunately,
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whistleblower type stories, but they're still interesting about so-called, I guess, sort of
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Delta Force type personnel being dropped in by spy planes late at night and parachuting down to the
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area and coming across this huge, gigantic metallic hole, kind of hollowed out as if somebody
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had already emptied it years ago. And there actually are rumours that the Russians got up
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there in the 1920s. So we don't really know if they found anything, any sort of alien artefacts
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or not, but there are a lot of stories about this sort of like a crack team of Black Ops,
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Delta type people going in and trying to figure out what could be found. So that's, so far at
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least, is what we know about Noah's Ark. And the investigations are still going on. We know there
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are files still being put together to this day. So potentially behind the scenes at least,
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we do know that there's been a lot of interest and it's still ongoing. And to
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demonstrate that to you, that's a NASA photograph of Mount Ararat that is actually contained
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within the Air Force's files. In other words, NASA was using its satellites to photograph
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Mount Ararat for the Air Force. So clearly, and this was actually just a few years ago. So in
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other words, we've got a situation where photographic evidence is still being collected.
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And the reason why they keep taking the pictures, I think, is because, as I said,
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it's very often covered in ice and snow, but at times it recedes. So in other words, you know,
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if you've got snow and ice here and it starts to fade away, that would be the good time to get the
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satellites in place again, where you could perhaps photograph more of this anomaly when the ice has
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receded from it. So that kind of leads me to believe they're not really sure what it is,
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because they wouldn't keep going back and photographing it if they got all the answers.
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So this demonstrates something else. You know, when we think government agencies are hiding things
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from us, we think it's because they've got all the answers. I think very often it's because
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they actually don't have the answers and they don't want to admit they don't have the answers,
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but equally, they don't want potential enemies finding out as well. They want to, which is
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understandable, you know, you don't want sort of your potential enemy getting its hands on advanced
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technology from a UFO before you get your hands on it. Now, if we come to the pyramids, an equally
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odd story as to how and why the military got involved in that. I haven't found any evidence
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of the CIA taking an interest, but military agencies and particularly the Navy and the army
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took a deep interest in one particular aspect of the construction of the pyramids.
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Now, one of the, I won't say one of the biggest questions, the biggest question when it comes to
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any of these ancient structures, whether it's the pyramids in Egypt, whether it's the similar
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pyramids in South America, Stonehenge, massive blocks all over the world, how did the ancients
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build them? How did they move these gigantic stones? Now, to give you an indication,
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some of the stones at Stonehenge aren't that big, they're sort of 20, 20 to 30 years old.
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Stonehenge aren't that big, they're sort of 20, 22 feet high, but the stones that sit at the top,
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the standing stones, you know, they weigh sort of five or six tons each. Big question is how do
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they get them up there into the air, sort of 25 feet? You know, today it wouldn't be that difficult
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with sort of powered cranes and so on, but for five or six thousand years ago on the plains of
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England, it wouldn't be that easy at all. And to give you an indication of how big some of these
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stones are, the biggest carved stone in the world is a place called Baalbek in the Lebanon,
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which actually weighs just barely just under 1,000 tons. Now, you know, I don't know what the average
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car weighs, maybe a ton or so. Well, you imagine a stone block the weight of a thousand, I don't know,
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four toruses or something like that. That's how big these stones are, some of them, you know,
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and there is an acknowledgement that today it's pretty much impossible to move
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and fit the Baalbek stone. There's just no way to do it. And it's kind of like the same with
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the stones at Egypt that make up the pyramids. A lot of people don't realize that the quarries
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where we can prove the stones came from are actually located 500 miles from the pyramids
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at Giza. So in other words, it wasn't just a case of, you know, here's a quarry right next door,
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we'll just pull them along. They had to remove them 500 miles either across desert or water
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before they even got to the place where the pyramids were built. So first they all got
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re-quarried, then they've got to be carved, then they've got to be moved 500 miles, then they've
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got to turn them into something like that, you know, and a person is like that high.
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When you look at all those logistics, you have to sort of begin to wonder
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how were they really built. And you realize the sort of the conventional story that it was ropes,
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pulleys, you know, tree trunks acting as wheels and so on across desert land and across rising
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plains and things like that. It's just not feasible. There has to be another way of doing this.
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But we clearly today, we don't have the technology or the skill to do it. So we come up with these
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simplistic scenarios with ropes and pulleys, which really doesn't mean anything, you know.
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It was done with ropes and pulleys. Well, how do you use ropes and pulleys to move a stone
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25 feet in the air that weighs four tons? Ropes and pulleys just don't do it.
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And one of the intriguing theories is something that's called acoustic levitation. And acoustic
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levitation is very much still like a fringe technology, but involves using sound waves,
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directed sound waves to raise objects. The best way to describe it, I'll actually give you a quote
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which makes it easy to understand because it is kind of a difficult concept. But if you ever sort
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of you got two magnets and push the opposite ends to each other, they push away. But if you imagine
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you've got some an object between those opposing forces, and you can manipulate it and pick it up
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using those opposing forces without actually a physical tool, you're rising something up into
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the air. It's kind of like that. Now, a couple of friends of mine, Marie Jones and Larry Flaxman,
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they wrote a book that deals in part at least with acoustic levitation. And I'll just read a
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quote from their book at least so you'll understand what it is. Acoustic levitation
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works as a means to introduce two opposing sound frequencies with interfering sound waves,
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thus creating what's called a resonant zone that allows the levitation to occur. Theoretically,
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to move a levitating object, simply change or alter the two sound waves and tweak accordingly.
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That's sort of the simple answer. You have sort of directed sound waves. You can move small objects
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or at least we can move small objects. And that has actually been achieved. Now, if somebody could
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do that on a bigger scale, potentially you could move some of these gigantic stone blocks and just
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kind of push them like that, like a little boat on the water kind of thing. Now, bear in mind,
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the most important thing about this is it deals with sound. When we look at all the ancient
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civilizations that built massive structures all around the world, they all have stories about the
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stones being moved by, in some cultures they call it magic. Others, they talked about the stones
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being moved by music. Now, if you look at, for example, the most famous story, for example,
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is the walls of Jericho, which were brought down. How were they brought down? By trumpets.
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You know, that's kind of like, I won't say it's a myth, but that's sort of the simplistic way
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that the ancients probably described it. They were brought down by trumpets, but it's by sound,
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actually. Now, in South America, excuse me, on the Yucca Peninsula, there's a place called Axiom,
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where there's massive structures there. And they were supposedly built by a mysterious race of
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dwarfs that moved the stones by playing an ancient stringed instrument called a lyre.
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And a lyre is like an early guitar. Now, I don't think literally they were built by somebody twanging
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a guitar and suddenly the stones moved into the air. But what I do think is that all these stories
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that the ancients have about the stones being moved by sound or by music relate to them trying
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to make some sense out of this term of acoustic levitation. I think what happened, there's a lot
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of good indications that, for example, the pyramids may predate many of the Egyptian cultures,
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that it's an interesting but controversial theory that the Egyptians may have actually inherited
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the pyramids rather than built them themselves. They could be like tens of thousands of years old
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rather than four or five or six. And in that case, that might explain why in Egyptian culture,
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they have legends about the stones having been moved by something like acoustic levitation. Now,
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if they were the builders, they would clearly know, but they seem to have inherited legends.
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Yeah. John Anthony West says that he believes that the chamber, that pit under the great pyramid
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is probably the remnants of a much older pyramid, as you say. And that the pyramid that is there
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now was a façade that was placed over a much more ancient structure. And the Egyptians themselves
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claimed that the pyramids date back to 35,000 years and that the stones were sunk into place.
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Yeah. I mean, that's actually a good point. And with these things as well,
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John Anthony West found evidence of water erosion, massive water erosion, as if there'd been just
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constant rain and flooding, which, you know, it's a desert. So at the time frame when the
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Sphinx was built, or was officially built, you know, there was just no way there would have
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been rain like that. So in other words, we have a situation where they probably are much older.
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Now with Stonehenge as well, there's a situation there where the story is that the stones were
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moved by Merlin, the ancient magician. Now Merlin supposedly moved the stones to the tune of a
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flute. So again, you have stories coming out of England of stones moved by a flute, South America
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by a lyre. You have the walls of Jericho brought down by a trumpet. So in other words, it's all
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about moving massive stone blocks or destroying them even in terms of the walls of Jericho by sound.
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Have they ever tried to experiment?
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Oh yeah, I mean the US military's done, and actually also the Russian military's done a
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lot of research into acoustic technology and acoustic levitation. And so far we've managed
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to lift things like the size of a shoebox. But the important thing is it does work. The problem
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is trying to figure out how the ancients did it. Because obviously we don't have any examples of
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some gigantic machine somewhere. So I think they, granted it's a hypothesis, but I think they must
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have had some sort of technology that was advanced but simplistic enough in the sense that it didn't
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survive to where we find remnants of it today. And I think that's the problem where people talk about
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ancient cultures coming before us. The skeptics say, well where's the evidence?
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That's because their civilization in many ways is more advanced, but not like possibly where they
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had TVs and cars. But they had astonishing alternative technologies that allowed them
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to build things in a very different way to we do, but not clicking on the internet 10,000 years
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ago or whatever. So yeah, I think we have to leave the questions to the end because they want to keep
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the film in. But I'll leave plenty of time, because otherwise they're going to have a big
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period of silence, I guess. So that's kind of the history of acoustic levitation.
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Now what we also find is official interest in the angle of acoustic levitation. Going back to Stone
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Henge, the British military in the 1970s, when they were researching things like levitation and
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anti-gravity to try and determine if there was like a military application for aircraft that
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could rely on sort of petroleum, gasoline and chemical rockets. If they could develop a kind
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of technology that involved levitation or anti-gravity, they could get around sort of
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the concept of rockets. And for reasons we don't know, part of that project involves studying
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Stone Henge. Now you can see a couple of people on that photograph which are there. That's one of the
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biggest stones at Stone Henge. If I stood next to that, I'd be about there. So in other words,
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you can see how tall those pillars are. As you can see, they even carve like a little
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lead on the top to where the top stone could be lowered onto it. So in other words, you know,
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if you've got the average human comes up to there, that's where the stone ends. They've got to raise
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it that high to just lower it onto the connecting points. And again, you have to think, how would
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they do that? You know, there really isn't, with ancient tools, you know, there really isn't any
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way to do it. And we don't know why as such the British military was focusing on Stone Henge
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when it was involved in this anti-gravity project. But clearly they've been sort of following a
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similar path to the United States, I think. Now we come now to sort of Pentagon interest
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in acoustic levitation. And this all began in the 1950s with a man named Maurice Jessup.
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Now, Maurice Jessup was a UFO researcher and author who wrote a number of books,
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his most famous ones called The Case for the UFO. And Jessup spent a lot of time in South America,
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Central America, and Mexico investigating the pyramids there and the ancient ruins.
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And he came to believe also that there was no way these stones could have been moved
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under conventional means. So he wrote this book in 55 called The Case for the UFO, which talked
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about his belief that we were visited in the ancient past by extraterrestrials who either built
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or who showed us the technology to build these massive formations. And one year after the book
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was published, a man named Carlos Alendi sent a copy of the book to the U.S. Navy. And it was full
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of annotations where Alendi had scribbled all this different information in there about his
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theories on Jessup's theories. And the copy of the book that Alendi sent to the Navy made its way to
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a division of the Navy that was involved in exotic new weapons developments. And something
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very, very strange happened. Bear in mind that Jessup didn't know all this was going on. He
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didn't know behind the scenes somebody had read his book and had sent it to the Navy. But he got
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a phone call one day out the blue from two representatives of this particular Navy project
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that was researching these sort of new concepts for weapons systems. And they invited Jessup to
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come out to Naval headquarters and discuss all these theories about acoustic levitation and how
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the stones might have been moved. So clearly the Navy was looking at the idea of can we develop
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this technology. So they went to the guy who was writing about it and who seemed to have
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some theories on him. And for Jessup, you know, being an author, he was kind of pleased and
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excited that the Navy was interested. But equally, he was sort of worried as well that, you know,
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oh my God, the Navy's on to me. What am I going to do? And kind of that, that kind of thing.
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And so he accepted the invite and he went out to Washington, D.C. And he wasn't sort of grilled or
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interrogated. He actually, you know, it was sort of a basically a relaxed meeting where he discussed
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his theories as to how these stones were moved and so on. And how the ancients had this acoustic
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technology. And this really interested the Navy, the idea that maybe gigantic structures could be
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moved with very, very little force and we wouldn't need that much technology at all to do it. And
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you can clearly see what goes through the mindset that, you know, this would make a great
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alternative to having to keep building large aircrafts and shuttling in, you know, crates in
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the back of an aircraft. We could just sort of, you know, gently direct them over the ocean or
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whatever to a battlefield. And the meeting lasted two days after which Jessup was told, thank you
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very much, Mr. Jessup. And he went back home to, where did he live? Montana, I think it was he
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lived. And he, from then on, a lot of strange things began to happen to Jessup. He started
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to get weird hang up phone calls, threatening anonymous messages on the phone and sort of weird
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electronic static coming through on the telephone. People started to drive past his house very slowly
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and take pictures. He'd be followed on his way to work. But it was done in such a way that it was
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clearly, he was meant to see it going on. It was like a kind of intimidation, if you like. You know,
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sort of a good agent of government, people who are trained in surveillance, you wouldn't know
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they're there. But whoever was doing this went out of their way to let Jessup know he was being
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watched, and particularly with the telephone intimidation, sort of phoning him up at 3 a.m.
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in the morning and screaming down the phone in foreign languages and all sorts of things, and
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strange bleeps and squeaks. And he actually started to destabilize him away from his research. And he
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became very, very paranoid, probably with a lot of justification as well. And his health began to
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suffer both psychologically and physically. You know, he became paranoid, a bit unstable. He
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developed stomach ulcers through the stress of it all. His wife left him, and then his publisher
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dropped him as well because his mind was frazzled and he just wasn't coming up with any new material.
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So he plunged into this particular state, but it was all as a result of this intimidation from who
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we don't know. And it kind of culminated in 1959 when he was found dead in a park in Florida
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in his car. It looked like he just killed himself by plugging a tube into the exhaust and dying from
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carbon monoxide poisoning. But there are a lot of weird aspects too which suggest he, although he
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died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the car, a lot of good indications that it was actually a
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murder made to look like a suicide. For example, the window on the car had been lowered enough to
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allow the tube to go through from the exhaust. But the surrounding parts, which were still open as
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well, had been blocked by a wet towel, a large wet towel. Now that was obviously done to prevent
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any of the carbon monoxide getting out and prevent any chance from him surviving. Now the park itself
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did have a lake, but when tests were undertaken it was found that the water in the towel wasn't
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lake water, it was just normal water, regular tap water. The problem was there was no container
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around the car that Jessop could have brought the water in to then sit in the car, shut the
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window and then wet it. What was he going to do with the container? It wasn't inside the car.
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So there was a lot of questions, I won't go into all the details, but a lot of questions like that
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that suggest it wasn't just a suicide. But what the story comes down to is that Jessop uncovered
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and wrote extensively about this theory of acoustic levitation. He caught the attention of the military
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who interviewed him and immediately afterwards he started getting this very strange intimidation,
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psychological disturbance, and he ended up dead. You know, and you have to wonder,
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was there a connection between all this? Did somebody want him gone? You know, because he was
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touching upon something that was considered a potential secret, you know, in terms of national
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security, this brand new weapon system we could use to sort of move technologies at a moment's
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notice, you know, without the use of aircraft. A lot of questions, but unfortunately not many answers
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when it comes to Jessop's death. Now that's a book, that's the book itself, the case for the UFO.
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That one was just recently republished, that's why I put that up there in case anybody wants
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to get it. It was written by Maurice Jessop, but that one contains all the annotated portions that
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Carlos Alendi added to it. So that, in other words, is a direct copy of the copy that the Navy got.
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And the Navy themselves printed 25 copies and circulated it all throughout the Pentagon as well,
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so a lot of people got to read his book and knew what he was tapping into and getting involved in.
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Now many of you might have heard of Edgar Cayce. Edgar Cayce, particularly in sort of the 30s and
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40s, was a man who was heavily involved in researching things like Atlantis and particularly
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past lives and reincarnation as it related to ancient civilizations,
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people who believed they'd had sort of lives in ancient Egypt in previous incarnations or Atlantis
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and things like that. And Edgar Cayce set up this place in Virginia Beach, which is the
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Cayce Research Foundation. Now there are just a few strands of a story that I picked up on
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just recently that in the early 1960s, a couple of people who worked at the Foundation had
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connections to the CIA and they reported back to various people in the Science and Technology
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Office of the CIA as to what all the latest breakthroughs were in terms of the Cayce
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Foundation's research into things like Atlantis. Now again, you know, I wish I could give you all
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the answers to why the CIA was interested in Atlantis, but I can sort of speculate that if
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we look at the history of things like acoustic levitation, the Noah's Ark story particularly,
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we see evidence of somebody looking at it from the technology angle. And if you look at the
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legends of Atlantis, the people of Atlantis supposedly had in their possession incredible
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technologies also far in advance of ours. So I think a lot of this particular issue of
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looking into Atlantis kind of ties in with the pyramid stuff that if the Atlanteans possessed
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atomic power, as some people have suggested, then that might be a reason for trying to figure out
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what the Atlanteans were doing as well. And this kind of ties in with another issue. For example,
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the people of Atlantis supposedly destroyed themselves or were destroyed in some sort of
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cataclysmic war. Well, at the same time that the CIA was interested in this, they were also
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looking into the subject of what's called the Mahabharata, which some of you may have heard of.
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It's this very ancient Indian text, ancient Indian manuscript that talks about a confrontational,
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a war between two opposing forces in northern India. Now, it dates back at least sort of five
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or six thousand years old. Some people have suggested it's based on a document that goes
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back about nine or ten thousand years old. Other people have suggested twenty or thirty thousand
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years old. And it talks about this war, as I said, between these two opposing forces. You would
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imagine back then sort of battles would have been fought on horseback with spears and bows and arrows
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and swords and shields. But when you read the Mahabharata, it actually sounds, as astonishing
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as it sounds, it comes across like an ancient nuclear war. It talks about, as Serena was mentioning
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last night, the Vimanas, these aircraft that could soar into the sky that was supposedly
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powered by Mercury. And they would unleash these sort of thunderbolts of light at the opposing cities.
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And when they would hit the cities, there would be this huge explosion, a flash of light. The ground
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would rumble for tens and tens of miles. And there would be this gigantic plume of smoke that would
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hang in the air for like two weeks, which kind of sounds like, you know, in a hypothetical nuclear
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war, what the situation would be in an atomic attack on a major city. You know, you would have
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the blast and you'd have the huge mushroom cloud, which people think those mushroom clouds just sort
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of go away. You know, in a real world situation, they just hang there kind of ominously for days
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and days. And in the Mahabharata as well, it talks about the opposing cities when they were bombed.
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In the immediate days afterwards, the people who didn't die in the initial blast would start
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to die anyway. The fingernails would fall out and their hair would fall out and they'd bleed from
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the mouth and their ears. And they would vomit and they'd die. Those are all the sort of classic
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symptoms of radiation poisoning. You know, people think in a nuclear attack, if you've survived the
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blast, you know, if your windows are open, you've got an air vent, you don't know that you may
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already have got a deadly dose of radiation. And when you put all these factors together,
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and if you read the Mahabharata, you can find it online, the translated version, it actually does
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just sound like an ancient nuclear war, giving rise to the theory that maybe our civilization
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wasn't the first or isn't the first to sort of develop the sort of society we have today. Maybe
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the human race comes in cycles, you know. I mean, unfortunately, we are kind of a destructive
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species and maybe we kind of peak and then we get obliterated and then we start again, maybe sort
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of 50, 30, 40,000 years from now, we'll be somebody else's legend. You know, the stories about these
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fantastic people that could fly these strange things in the sky and they could talk to people
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on little devices and people then may say, that's complete nonsense, we're the first, you know.
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And then one day they'll be somebody else's legend. So maybe it's something like that.
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But again, to find that the US government was interested in the Mahabharata, I think again,
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it ties in with this. And again, to give you a really sort of, for me at least, a definitive
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bit of proof that they did suspect that somebody came before us. Our atomic bomb, the ones that
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were dropped on Japan, they were primarily created and developed by Dr. Robert Oppenheimer.
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And the first one was tested in New Mexico just before the end of the Second World War.
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When that was shown to work, the two bombs were dropped on Japan, which ended the Second World
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War. Now Oppenheimer became obsessed with the Mahabharata, which in itself is intriguing.
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You know, this book that seems to talk about an ancient nuclear war in India,
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Oppenheimer became obsessed by it. And at a conference in 1952, he was asked, you know,
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were the two bombs dropped on Japan and the one that was tested in New Mexico the first ones,
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the first atomic bombs? And Oppenheimer replied, yes, they were. And then he took a brief pause
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and he said, in modern times, as if to say, well, yeah, they were the first that were exploded
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in modern times, kind of implying that maybe they weren't the first in past times. And
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Oppenheimer came to regret developing the atomic bomb because he felt that one day, even though it
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was sort of a defensive weapon, it has acted as a defense because, you know, the only reason why
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there hasn't been a nuclear war is because every side knows that nobody can win it. You know,
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it's a lie or a fallacy that you can win a nuclear war when everybody has enough missiles to blow
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the planet up five times over. You cannot win. And that's why it never occurred. But even though
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it acted as a deterrent, Oppenheimer came to regret developing it. And whenever he was interviewed
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about the atomic bomb, he would always refer to the Mahabharata. And you can find some of the old
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online TV shows that he did where he talks about this. And he's clearly coming across as very
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stressed and, you know, like a man keeping a lot of hidden secrets, which he may well have been.
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Now, we come now to probably what is the strangest of all stories of military interest or application
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of the mysteries of the past. Has anybody here heard of Operation Blue Beam or Project Blue Beam?
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Okay. Well, Project Blue Beam hasn't been confirmed to exist, but a lot of people have spoken about
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it and claim it does exist. The idea is that in today's world with advanced technology,
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particularly holographic technology, where you can project imagery, that somebody at some point had
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this idea, Project Blue Beam, to project imagery in the skies of like gods and things like this
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and kind of create a fake second coming to try and control the world. You know, it'd be sort of
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like a secret cabal of people who would fake a second coming and try and put everybody under
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some sort of religious dominator, iron-fisted control, like a one-world government kind of thing.
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Now, it sounds like total paranoia, you know, something straight out of the X-Files, that there
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could be this shadowy group of people, you know, manipulating things and one day they're going to
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press a button and these satellites are going to beam imagery of Jesus and God and
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angels in the sky and everybody has to sort of follow orders, so to speak, and, you know,
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be the creation of a one-world environment. Now, although, as I said, Project Blue Beam hasn't been
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confirmed to exist, we can prove that something very similar but on a far more primitive level
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was tried in the early 1960s and it involved imagery of the Virgin Mary and it involved a man,
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it was actually started by a guy named Major General Edward Lansdale and Edward Lansdale was
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somebody who was an expert in psychological warfare. Psychological warfare is basically
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trying to defeat or affect the enemy where you do so without using guns or rockets or missiles.
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If you've got a particularly superstitious enemy, you know, if they fear that in the
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jungles of their country there are vampires, well then you start spreading stories of vampires to
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freak them out even more and it's a sort of way of defeating the morale of the enemy and
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so Major Edward Lansdale was an expert in this field. He came up with this sort of brilliantly
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wacky scenario to try and defeat Cuba and oust Fidel Castro in the early 1960s and what he did
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was to come up with this plan to fake imagery and broadcast pictures of the Virgin Mary on clouds over
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Cuba and tell the Cuban people that God hated Cuba, God hated Castro in simple terms and the
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way he did this, in theory it sounds doable but actually wasn't doable. The plan was that the
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undercover of darkness, the US military would send boats out to Cuba and they would have like these
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old style cinema projection systems and they would use these to sort of broadcast and project
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pictures of the Virgin Mary onto thick clouds and they would have an engine, excuse me, they would have an
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aircraft flying through the clouds with its engine muffled and they would have somebody like a gigantic
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loud speaker saying this is the voice of God, you will lay down your weapons and you will overthrow
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Fidel Castro. So in other words you would have the picture of the Virgin Mary and you have the voice of God
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but on paper you know it all worked very well and actually these documents have now surfaced
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through the Freedom of Information Act, it's not a story, the plan was actually put into place. The
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problem was you know if you're going to do this as a surprise attack you can never be sure when
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the clouds are going to be thick enough or in the right place, is the wind going to be too strong and
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blow them away, what if the clouds move and then the aircraft's there so people know where it's coming from
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and it all fell apart but the fact that it was planned as like a religious ruse to try and
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overthrow the leader of a foreign country, that is basically the scenario of Project Bluebeam,
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the idea of broadcasting pictures of Jesus and God over countries that aren't Christian to try
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and convert them, that's the supposed scenario behind Project Bluebeam but this is like an early
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version of it and again it demonstrates how the mysteries of the ancient past have been utilized
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but for a very alternative military reason. Now that one's out of order, that shouldn't be there
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but just that just goes back to us talking about with Atlantis and how it tied in with the
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Mahabharata time-wise in terms of looking at ancient civilizations that destroyed themselves.
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Now again it comes back to the question of why, that's Silbury Hill in England which is a very
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large ancient structure, not too far as the crow flies from the Avery Circle and Stonehenge as
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well. Well why should there be all this interest and of course weaponry? I think the interest in
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the Mahabharata, when it talks about these astonishing weapons that apparently existed,
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I think there's been attempts to try and look into the history to figure out what those weapons were,
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kind of the same with the acoustic levitation. What would you want to do with acoustic levitation
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if you were sort of an official agency? You would want to try and determine if you could
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you know do away with sort of fossil fuels, tanks, aircraft, if you could develop technology where
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you wouldn't need aircraft, you know you could literally just move things by levitation, that
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would be a major advantage over your potential enemy. And I don't criticize, I want to stress
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that point, I don't criticize agencies for looking into all this. It makes perfect sense that
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in today's world you want to have, which is a very sort of fraught and unstable world,
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you want to stay one step ahead of your potential enemies. And so I think that's why a lot of this
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research has been done. It's not been done from an archaeological historical perspective to try and
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give us a greater insight into the history and the mysteries of the past, although by default it does
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do that. I think it's being done and has been done because even though I don't think the government
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has all the answers as to what happened in the ancient past, they've got a lot of suspicions
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that there were people who came before us who had technologies far in advance of us. Some of them
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may have been from here, some of them may have been from up there, and some of them may have been
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a combination of the two where they work together. And I think that the race is kind of on to find
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where these artifacts that are left might be and are they still in a condition where they can be
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revamped and reworked, or can we at least learn from them and duplicate them? So I think that's
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what's going on. It's more of a study of the past to try and utilise the technology for the future.
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So if anybody's got questions, we've got about another 15 minutes or so.
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Yeah, back there on the pyramids. I was just wondering,
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I heard the story a long time ago about Japanese engineers trying to build some scale model of
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the Great Pyramids and were not able to have it self-supporting. Have you heard?
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Yeah, I'm not sure about the self-supporting, but I do know attempts have been made on actually
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several occasions to sort of duplicate the pyramids. Not necessarily to remake the whole
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thing, but kind of like two or three levels with stones, you know, multi-ton stones. And it just
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can't be done. You know, the sheer feasibility of doing it to where they kind of, you know,
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it's in a case you've just got to build them, put them on top of one another. Because it's a pyramid,
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you know, it's, and it's sloped. They've got to interlock. And like you say, they've got to be
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able to hold each other up in place. You know, doing all that, it's just with our technology,
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with cranes, you know, that is the only way we can do it, is by advanced cranes. And even then,
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we have a large job. And nobody's really ever tried to do a full-size pyramid. No, that's right.
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And that's the problem is that archaeologists, mainstream archaeologists say, well, it's there,
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so they had to do it some way, but they pretty much deny any of the alternative methods.
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Oh, yeah. Holographic technology is very good because you can project something that isn't
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really there. But we know research has gone on long in the past. And, you know, for the Russians
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to say it's never been used before is a clear example it probably has. If you go out of the
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way to say it's never been used, you know, you want to get that impression across. But I mean,
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holographic technology has been used for years. And it really is at a point now almost where,
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you know, you can project like a 3D imagery of someone. And probably in the near future,
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you know, we'll be able to do without cell phones. You could sort of project your cell phone
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and it projects a picture of your wife or your husband or whatever, you know,
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just at work or in the bath or in the car. But it'll be kind of like a 3D holographic image,
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you know, for all intents and purposes, it looks like the real person.
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The projection into the night sky of the second coming, I mean, across the night sky.
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That's what Project Bluebeam, if it really exists, is all about, sort of fabricating a second coming.
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But one of the thrusts is, you know, how do you, you know, there are people who, well, the stories,
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there are people within the official world, all around the world, sort of like, not actually a
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government, but like a powerful secret elite that want to essentially influence everybody's
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mindset into one direction, you know. So if you go to a country that follows the teachings of Allah,
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they would display a picture of the Christian God to try and alter their mindset. Now, as I said,
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Project Bluebeam is sort of filled with paranoia and shadowy, unnamed sources. So we shouldn't
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necessarily accept it as, you know, the gospel truth, no pun intended. But,
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but I come back to that thing with Edward Lansdale of a cube, but that was real.
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That was a real attempt to influence the Cuban people with a religious rose. So it could be done.
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You mentioned throughout your speech, there's a lot of people don't agree on dates.
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Yeah. Well, yeah, carbon dating works, but sometimes depending on sort of the
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environments and exposure to sort of radiation, particularly, and carbon dating can sometimes be
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off. Sometimes not by much, but sometimes it can. Well, the problem is, you see, the problem is the
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stones. If you carbon date the stones, all it tells you is when, how old the stones are.
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You know, so somebody could make the argument, well, the stones are 40,000 years old,
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but they were only moved 5,000 years ago. You see, so it's like if you carbon date a skeleton,
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that's easier, you know, because a human might live to 80 or 90 years. So
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you can carbon date a person much easier than you can a piece of stone. It's kind of like
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carbon dating, you know, a block of wood or an old tree. It tells you how old the tree is,
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but it doesn't tell you when it was necessarily chopped down, you know, to make a table or whatever.
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Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Cool. Cool. Thanks.
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If they go down, it's a film of some religious prophecy that they don't care if they go down.
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Well, actually, it's an interesting, you mentioned about, you know, the pyramids being based on
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earlier pyramids. If you go to Egypt, where you've got the great pyramids in Egypt, I mean,
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they look really kind of cool and professionally put together, but there are a number of pyramids
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there which are really bad, which, you know, they weren't finished properly, the angles are wrong,
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and that's kind of almost, well, it's given rise to the theory that maybe the Egyptians inherited
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them and didn't know actually built the original pyramids, and so they tried it themselves,
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and the Egyptians, ironically, were responsible for the really bad-looking ones rather than,
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you know, we assume they made the great ones. And again, it's a controversial theory,
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and, you know, we don't know where the truth lies, but I mean, a number of researchers,
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like John Anthony West, have suggested they predate conventional wisdom by a long time.
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And for me, at least, his most persuasive work is on the Sphinx, where, for me, at least,
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he's presented convincing evidence that the massive erosion on the Sphinx is due to water
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via rain. You know, we're not talking about just occasional, you know, a moat built around it
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or anything like that. It seems to be rain. Now, that's not impossible that it couldn't have been
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rain, but the problem is it would have been impossible for the time period of sort of four,
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three, four, five thousand years ago, when Egypt wasn't that different to how it is today. You
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know, we're talking about to have rainfall of the level that could erode the Sphinx. We're talking
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tens of thousands of years ago, and that's what John Anthony West has said, that, you know,
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these structures were inherited rather than constructed by who we consider to be the Egyptians,
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and who knows who the original builders might have been, you know.
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Isn't it true on the carbon dating, you can't really date rock, let's say, it's silicon-dark.
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Yeah, well, yeah, sorry, I should have stressed that. Yes, if you're carbon dating,
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you really do need, you know, that's how they can carbon date things like fossilized
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materials and that sort of thing. It's not so much the
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structure, it's what's inside it as well or on it. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, well, I mean, there are legends about sort of an ancient race coming to Egypt and settling
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there. Yeah, yeah, the Lemurians. Yeah, I mean, you can find all around the world where there are
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cultures that have large stone circles and formations, and they talk about them being
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built by visiting highly intelligent people, you know, as if they were strangers from somewhere else.
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That's kind of given rise to two theories. One is like the ancient astronaut theory of
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aliens landing. The other theory is like the Lemurians or the Atlanteans when their worlds
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were destroyed, finding new places to live. Yeah, yeah, so the idea is that the surviving
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people of those lands started fresh somewhere else, and they'd perhaps go to South America
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and try and integrate themselves into the society there. But then, of course, you know,
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you've got things like, as briefly touched on last night, so the very weird and similar similarities
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between what we have in Egypt, in Sedonia on Mars, with these sort of pyramid-type structures and
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this sphinx-like face, that's sort of given rise to the theory that is some ancient Martian connection
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Did we get to Mars or are we the Martians? You know, that's one of the interesting theories,
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is the idea that we find all these ancient structures on Mars, the pyramids and so on.
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And as Mike Barr said last night, if you were at the Q&A, there are actually a lot of good
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indications that there is some sort of rudimentary life still on Mars, and maybe a million years ago,
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a hundred thousand years ago, it was teeming with life. But what are the possibility that
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maybe the Martians had pre-warning of what was going to happen, and they made it here,
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you know. And if their culture, their architecture was pyramids and whatever,
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if they made it here, they might want to, like us, if we went somewhere, if we were forced to
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go somewhere else, we'd want to try and introduce our culture to that world. So maybe that's what
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they did. Perhaps they came here and in some respects, we're the Martians, you know, fled
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Mars and started over again here.
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Yeah, I mean, if you go on the internet, you can actually find a lot of evidence. People
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find it surprising that the evidence is there. But if you look at a lot of the NASA pictures,
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if you type in Banyan tree, B-A-N-Y-A-N, Banyan tree plus Mars into Google, Google images,
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and you'll see these pictures that have come back from NASA, they look just like orchards of trees.
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What's that? Have you seen those? Yeah. The best way I can describe it, if you imagine you're
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flying over in an aircraft, over the Arizona desert, and there's like a clump of bushes and trees,
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it looks just like that. They look like weird alien type trees, but they look like trees.
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Now NASA says they're connected with ice crystals and things like this.
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But I've got to be honest, it looks like an aerial photograph of the deserts of New Mexico
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with bushes and trees and shrubland and things like that. And, you know, there's been other
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images as well. Some of them from the Mars rover that seem to show things like lizards and
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all sorts of strange. Have you seen that one? Yeah. It's like a little lizard. And you can
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see it looks like a tail and body and limbs and a head. And now some people say, well, it's just
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stones. And our eyes randomly pick up on things that look like something we recognize. But when
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you find so many things like this, you have to begin to wonder if maybe Mars isn't actually the
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dead world we're told it is. And maybe our ancient history somehow is connected with Mars and possibly
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a Martian civilization in some fashion. And I think, I don't know why that's going on.
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I'm sure my PowerPoint's not a... Yeah. But yeah, I mean, with the whole Martian thing,
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I often wonder if possibly the reason why there's so much secrecy surrounding the past is because
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it would so impact on our present today. And it would change our view on society and history
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and civilization, possibly overnight, to where it would throw the world into sort of almost,
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literal chaos. But every belief system could be thrown out the window if we found,
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you know, to have originated on Mars, or for there to be a connection,
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and for history not to be what we believe it is, and for archaeology not to be what we believe
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it is, and that people came before us like us. If all that was released to us overnight,
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I think that would shock a lot of people. And maybe that's the reason why, you know,
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there are occasions in history where history's been suppressed because a minority don't want
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the majority to know about it. Well, actually, there's an interesting theory that the face on
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the Sphinx has been re-carved at least once or twice. And, yeah, I mean, it looks like a human
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face now, but there is a theory that at one point it was like a lion type face, a feline face.
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When you look at it, let me just get that picture up again if I can, if McAfee will let me.
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Yeah, I mean, the thing is, if you look at the body of the Sphinx, and then you look at the head,
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the head's sort of incredibly small to the body. It looks, the body's totally out of proportion.
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It looks strange. Well carved, but it looks very strange. So that's kind of, what's that? Yeah,
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don't worry. That kind of does suggest that it has been re-carved, and it might make sense if
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the people of one era believed in one thing and supported something else, that it would be
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re-carved. So again, I think this is another issue that might explain, or at least add to
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the idea that it's far older than we think it possibly is. All right, well.
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Oh yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, the weathering on the head is actually different to the weathering
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on the body of it. So clearly showing there are differences in the creation. All right,
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thanks a lot.