1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Let's go on. 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,440 This is the water weathering. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,760 This is the weathering to the swings. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,520 You see that it's cut into a hollow. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,080 The original level of the plateau is here. 6 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:25,080 Before the swings was cut, before the stone was quarried away, the core to give you what's 7 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:27,440 called the core body of the swings. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:33,280 The only bit of the swings that stuck above the level of the actual plateau was the head, 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,080 which is a much harder out-cropper of stones, or wouldn't have been weathered away in the same 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,400 way. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Now, when I first started developing this theory, actually one of the reasons I was in bold 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,760 and to continue was that I took a picture of the swings. 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,440 I don't have that picture with me, but it was a picture, a side view of the swings. 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,720 And I went to see I was living in England by this time. 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,440 I went to see an eminent geologist at Oxford University. 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,240 I had an intro to him to a friend of mine. 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,080 I asked him, very simple, I said, can you tell the difference between water weathering and 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,920 wind and sand weathering from a good photograph? 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,440 He said, very cautiously, he said, by and large. 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Yes. 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,040 I had a picture of the swings from this side view. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,720 What I had done was I'd masked off the hodge and I'd masked off the head. 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,480 When I asked him, I said, well, if you don't mind, I'll just play a little bit of a trick 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,680 on you. 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,960 What is the nature of that weathering? 26 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:29,280 And he said, oh, a lot's unquestionably water weathering. 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,560 I stripped away the masking tape so that you could see the head of the swings. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,800 You could see the head of the, you could see the hodge of the lion. 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,480 And he said, oh, because he knew, as a geologist, he knew, as a geologist, that the swings 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,240 is not supposed to be weathered by wind and sand. 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,120 And then he said, and then he said, but remember, he said, I'm not a desert specialist. 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,520 So he didn't want any more of this. 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,080 But actually, I said it's going to, at first, I thought it was a cop ad. 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,560 But actually, it isn't. 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,760 It's like going, to something wrong with your heart. 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,000 You don't go to a foot doctor or the foot doctor is a doctor. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Also, and those might say, well, I think there's something wrong with your heart. 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,160 But you better go to a cardiologist. 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,920 So it was not actually a cop ad. 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,560 But in any event that emboldened me and I developed the whole theory of the swings, which 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,120 nobody, of course, paid attention to until finally. 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,480 This is all going on in the middle 70s. 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Finally, in the end of the 80s, the introduction to Robert Schock, he didn't want 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,880 to touch the thing until he was up for 10 years, because the Americans, you know, 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,800 a university thinks that you're looking for a lost civilization. 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,840 And in fact, we learned to use the word Atlantis. 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Very circumspectally. 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,240 And we call it the A word. 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,240 You can't mention this in polite academic circles without getting yourself in a lot 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,240 of trouble. 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,800 Anyway, one thing led to another, and I developed this theory. 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,880 And here are the main points of the theory. 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Here are just some more shots of the swings. 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,160 As you see, deeply weathered in its hollow. 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:58,960 This is the pyramid of Kaffra, the builder of the second pyramid, and the successor 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,400 of Kufu or Kiaps who built the Great Pyramid. 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,080 There's another view just from a distance. 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,080 You see, the swings looks tiny and puny here compared to the Great Pyramid. 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,440 And the distance actually, the swings is an enormous statue. 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:18,120 I mean, it's 240 feet long, the size of a city block, and 66 feet high. 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,920 So this is an immense construction. 62 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:27,000 And now the reason why it's not weathered by Wind and Sand is shown right here. 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,240 If you leave the swings alone, for this is a photo taken about the turn of the century, 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,720 if you leave the swings alone without sweeping it out every few weeks, this is what happens. 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:41,160 In the space of about 10 or 15 years, the sandstorms blow the wind, the sand in, and covers 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,520 the swings up to its neck. 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,960 Only the head is left uncovered. 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,360 And over the course, it was possible to show, here's another shot here, seen from the back 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,800 before they rid all of the repair. 70 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,040 When you look at the headdress now, with the head of the swings, it looks pretty good 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,160 neck, except for the blasted away nose. 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 But here's what it looked like before the repairs were affected, also around the turn of 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,800 the century. 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:10,320 You could show, you could prove, the textual evidence, actually, that the swings is supposedly 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,680 built about 2,500 BC. 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:22,040 And you could show from various textual evidence that of the 4,500 years since it was supposedly 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,080 built, it's been covered in up to the neck and sand for at least 3,000 of those 4,500 78 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,080 years. 79 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Obviously, once it's covered up to the neck and sand, there's no possible way in which 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,760 sand, wind and sand could weather it in any event of wouldn't weather it to look like 81 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,760 that. 82 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:43,440 So this was part of the argument that I originally developed, that's called an argument 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,040 by a process of exclusion, because I couldn't find any geologists to actually confer 84 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,000 with to help me in this in the quest. 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Now here you see good example of the weathering again. 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,800 And normally, the swings is attributed to the Farrow Conference or Keffran. 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:09,080 And there are several pieces of circumstantial evidence that support this attribution. 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,400 One of them is this little stealer, this stone tablet between the paws of the swings. 89 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Here's a close-up, I'll put it. 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:25,720 It tells in Harigliff a story about a king called Tudmosis IV, who has lived about 1450 BC. 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,200 And apparently, Tudmosis was camping out around the swings with some of his pals and laid 92 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,200 down in the shades of the swings to rest. 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,240 The swings was the best time covered up to its neck and the sand, and he had a vision. 94 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,840 The gods spoke to him, or the swings spoke to him and said, Tudmosis, my son, I'm up 95 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,080 for my neck and sand. 96 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,040 If you will remove the sand from around me, you will become Farrow of Egypt. 97 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,040 So he did remove the sand and he did not do course become Farrow of Egypt. 98 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,520 He recorded this on the steel here. 99 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Now on the very one of the bottom registers of the steel here, the name or the higher 100 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:09,520 glyph for Hef, the first syllable of Kafra's name, was once there, not in the cartoos. 101 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,760 The cartoos is the oval that always has the Farrow's name in it, but just the letter 102 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,160 Hefra, which is the first bit of Kafra's name. 103 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,680 So, no mention that Kafra is the builder of the swings or anything of the sorts. 104 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,160 But the Egyptologists took that letter Kaf, which is subsequently been flaked away. 105 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,160 It's on the very bottom register. 106 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:34,160 As a piece of evidence that Kafra actually carved the swings, then there is, there's 107 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,800 no doubt that there's a connection between the swings and Kafra. 108 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Kafra is quite one of certain the built as a built as pyramid, as he's supposed to have 109 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,880 done. 110 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,320 And there is a cause way that leads from the swings to a temple right in front of the 111 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,600 Kafra pyramid. 112 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:58,360 And one of the other main pieces of evidence is that this great statue of Kafra, with 113 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,880 the fault and assimilated into his consciousness, not protecting the Farrow as is always 114 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,880 said. 115 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,240 But the fault can actually represent the principle of resurrection or return to the source, 116 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,680 as Shuala called it. 117 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,800 And when you see a statue like this, you see that the king has effectively attained 118 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,800 horrors, consciousness or divine consciousness. 119 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,800 And any event, this was found in a pit in the temple alongside the swings. 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,040 And this is the swings itself. 121 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,920 And to the Egyptologists, these two faces look alike. 122 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,640 They saw a resemblance between this and this. 123 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,280 Now the swings, of course, the syncs is noes is all shot off, so it's rather difficult 124 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,680 to make that comparison. 125 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,240 But to me, these two faces never didn't look anything alike. 126 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:47,720 But I often go to Egypt and on my trips, I very often have artists sculptors, architects, 127 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,320 photographers, people who are used to looking at faces. 128 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,520 And I used to ask them and said, you know, these two faces look anything alike. 129 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,840 And they don't look the least bit alike. 130 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:04,320 But in the 80s, Mark Langer and archaeologist who worked around the swings for the last 131 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:10,960 15 or 20 years did a computer study trying to resolve this question of the similarity 132 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,880 between the face of the swings and out of Kaffra. 133 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,280 And he fed Kaffra data into the computer. 134 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,800 And the result came out. 135 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,360 And then he superimposed the result on the body of the swings and said, well, it's Kaffra. 136 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,080 After all, now anybody who knows computers a little bit knows that it's not just a question 137 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:36,720 of G. Garbage in Garbage out, but Kaffra in Kaffra out. 138 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,960 But this, even though this was, it's not quite as simple as I may have got. 139 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,520 But basically, this was an illegitimate scholarly exercise. 140 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,920 But it got a lot of press. 141 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,680 It got, there was in the New York Times. 142 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:51,160 It was in National Geographic. 143 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,800 It was all over the world. 144 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Problem solved. 145 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,400 Swing's looks like Kaffra after all. 146 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,260 So because of the press that this had got him in similarity like beauty is in the eye of the 147 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:02,260 holder. 148 00:09:02,260 --> 00:09:08,380 But normally I wouldn't have felt that I needed to address this particular question. 149 00:09:08,380 --> 00:09:12,620 But because of all the press that that Lain is study had got when we started doing our 150 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:17,580 video, we realized that we had to address this because this was a key piece of evidence. 151 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:22,660 If indeed the head of the swings looks like the head of Kaffra, it gets difficult, not 152 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:23,660 impossible. 153 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:25,780 But it gets difficult to challenge the attribution. 154 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:31,580 So what I wanted to do actually was to use exactly the same method that Mark Lainer 155 00:09:31,580 --> 00:09:32,580 had used. 156 00:09:32,580 --> 00:09:39,020 But I wanted to feed Elvis data into the computer and prove that Elvis was really the model 157 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:40,020 for the swings. 158 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:46,100 But the Elvis Foundation wouldn't let me use the King's image in that particular context. 159 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:49,340 So what we did was we said, who's an expert on faces? 160 00:09:49,340 --> 00:09:54,540 Who can actually compare these two faces? 161 00:09:54,540 --> 00:10:01,300 That actually tell us in definitive terms whether or not they really are meant to be the 162 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:02,980 same human being. 163 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:08,500 So what we did was that we decided that the guy to do this was a forensic artist. 164 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:12,660 So we went to detect the Frank Domingo, who was the senior forensic artist within New York 165 00:10:12,660 --> 00:10:17,740 Police Department and brought him over to Egypt with us to do a comparative study of these 166 00:10:17,740 --> 00:10:19,540 two faces. 167 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:21,260 And this is what he came up with. 168 00:10:21,260 --> 00:10:23,260 There we have Kaffra. 169 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:28,180 And this is a standard forensic method to in comparison to faces. 170 00:10:28,180 --> 00:10:30,220 And here you have the swings. 171 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:36,340 Now the swings of course the comparison is made difficult because the head of the head 172 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:40,500 of the statue is of course in perfect condition, whereas the swing says it's nose blasted 173 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:45,100 away and lots of damage elsewhere on the face to the eye sockets and so on. 174 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:52,420 But enough points of reference were remaining to make what Domingo felt was an absolutely 175 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:54,260 definitive comparison. 176 00:10:54,260 --> 00:11:00,360 And these were the point of the chin, the brow, the edge, the brow line and the edge of the 177 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,360 eye. 178 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:08,460 And when these these are compared, you see that there's a 14 degree angle between chin and 179 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:14,260 edge of eye on the Kaffra statue and on the swing since more than doubled out it's 32 degrees. 180 00:11:14,260 --> 00:11:20,740 Well no two sculptors, no two competent sculptors working with the same model of face are 181 00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:22,500 going to make a mistake like that. 182 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:28,860 And just to use a kind of an example, if you gave 20 good modern sculptors, you commissioned 183 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:33,420 them to do a bust of Bill Clinton. 184 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:42,860 All of them would come out with a shifty eyed sneaky son of a bitch but they all differ 185 00:11:42,860 --> 00:11:43,860 from each other. 186 00:11:43,860 --> 00:11:45,660 But the other guys are worse. 187 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:48,900 It's just used Bill for an example. 188 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:59,180 But none of them would get a disparity in facial structure, anything like this at all. 189 00:11:59,180 --> 00:12:05,140 So as far as we were concerned, this was a definitive study. 190 00:12:05,140 --> 00:12:11,700 And in fact actually when we asked Domingo because a number of people have noted travelers 191 00:12:11,780 --> 00:12:18,020 of the last century have noted that the sphinx in profile very definitely looks like an 192 00:12:18,020 --> 00:12:26,180 African face and not a current Egyptian North African face but the subsaharan African face. 193 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:31,140 And when Domingo said this, he didn't go public whether he just said it's consistent with African 194 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:34,820 physiognomy. 195 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:40,460 My partner in this whole project Boris came up with a line. 196 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:45,060 Boris also subsequently stole $150,000 from the till so we're not on very good speaking 197 00:12:45,060 --> 00:12:46,060 terms anymore. 198 00:12:46,060 --> 00:12:47,860 But he did come up with a good line. 199 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:52,820 He said boy said for the establishment, this is bad news and worst news. 200 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:58,940 The bad news is that there wasn't Atlantis and the worst news is they were black. 201 00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:03,780 So anyway, I subsequently wrote an article in op-ed piece for the New York Times under 202 00:13:03,780 --> 00:13:08,700 Domingo's forensic work without ever mentioning this possibility of the head of the 203 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:13,220 swings is actually a subsaharan African face because this is political dynamite actually 204 00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:16,220 has been enough trouble with the Egyptian authorities as it is. 205 00:13:16,220 --> 00:13:19,820 The last thing in the world they want to hear is that the swings is actually a subsaharan 206 00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:20,820 African face. 207 00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:25,100 But in say anything about it, but a few weeks later the New York Times published a letter 208 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:30,060 from North Adontist another specialist in facial structure who noted the same thing. 209 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:34,220 He said, see this looks very much like a subsaharan like an African face. 210 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:38,580 Now another peculiarity about the head of the swings is that proportionately it's much 211 00:13:38,580 --> 00:13:43,540 too small for the body and the Egyptians were masters of proportion and the rest of the 212 00:13:43,540 --> 00:13:49,780 swings the body of the lion is also proportionately perfect but the head is much much too 213 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:50,780 small. 214 00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:55,380 So we feel actually that at some time in its history not during the Nastic Egypt but some 215 00:13:55,380 --> 00:14:02,820 time perhaps even earlier maybe coinciding with one of those other periods of other periods 216 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:07,100 when Egypt was ruled either by supposedly the gods themselves or the companions of 217 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:12,460 Oras that this that the swings was recarved and that quite possibly that was you know 218 00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:17,980 that the Egyptian civilization at that time were blacks maybe we don't know it's a question 219 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:21,940 that may never be proved but it's obviously a matter of you know considerable interest 220 00:14:21,940 --> 00:14:28,660 for the black historians that are trying to establish their claim on some real civilization 221 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:34,420 of their own and I'm all of our as a matter of fact anyway so there you see a comparison 222 00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:39,860 of the two faces there so you can you can pretty much throw out the the attribution to 223 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:44,900 coffra or at least the similarity between the face of the swings and the face of coffra 224 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:50,620 and one by one we were able to we were able to throw out all of these pieces of circumstantial 225 00:14:50,620 --> 00:14:51,620 evidence. 226 00:14:51,620 --> 00:14:55,700 Now this is the this is the key to the to the whole thing you see this weathering here 227 00:14:55,700 --> 00:15:01,580 in this in this in this angelating profile that you get here this is typical of water 228 00:15:01,580 --> 00:15:05,300 weathering wind and sand will not produce this kind of weathering and nothing else will 229 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:10,460 either but it's not any old kind of water weathering it's actually produced by rainwater 230 00:15:10,460 --> 00:15:14,140 lots and lots of rainwater and the process is this that the water comes coursing down 231 00:15:14,140 --> 00:15:19,540 the plateau the plateau's on a slope goes up toward the pyramid there and it comes over 232 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:24,980 up falls over the edge here and and the the coursing water picks out weak spots in the 233 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:31,580 rock fault lines and produces chemical reactions with those fault lines which weather 234 00:15:31,580 --> 00:15:36,340 out ahead of the of the of the solid a rock the same applies for the laterals here 235 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:43,780 these are these are are are softer strata of stone and the chemical reactions happen 236 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:50,420 fast of there so you get this this this deeply this deeply weathered profile you know 237 00:15:50,420 --> 00:15:55,420 see some more pictures of that here again typical of the typical of that water weathering 238 00:15:55,420 --> 00:16:02,340 and since we came up with this theory the initially presenting this at the geological 239 00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:06,580 society the geologist there were a hundred percent an agreement that we were right that 240 00:16:06,580 --> 00:16:11,540 this had to be this was water weathering nothing but water weathering but since then the 241 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:17,620 the the theory has been attacked by a number of geologists all of whom have a state in 242 00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:23,460 Egyptology actually they're Egyptologists geologists and so we've been obliged to answer each 243 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:29,220 of these rebuttals in turn now one of the things as as we wanted the interesting things actually 244 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:34,260 about developing about working in this field is that you put forward your theory and you do all 245 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:40,020 the work to try to substantiate it people attack the theory you have to then go back over your 246 00:16:40,020 --> 00:16:46,340 evidence see if it has any weak spots look for further evidence and gradually gradually gradually 247 00:16:46,340 --> 00:16:52,100 if you put it all together you get a case that becomes damn near unassailable and you'll see 248 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:58,100 as I go through this talk now we're very nearly at that position now and it should be I think 249 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:04,980 some fireworks in the next couple of years as as as we build our case as it were so one of the 250 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:11,300 things we didn't notice when we first doing our work was the not just the severity of the 251 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:16,500 of the weathering but this is the enclosure wall the sphinx is over here and you see now here you see 252 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:22,020 this line of rock going down here well this is still a harder member of rock this the sphinx is actually 253 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:26,500 sort of like a layer cake the head is the hardest layer then is what's called member two that's 254 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:33,140 this soft a limestone here and then the sloping bed of harder limestone that goes down here so 255 00:17:33,220 --> 00:17:38,420 what's happened here is that the water coursing down over the edge and particularly over this 256 00:17:38,420 --> 00:17:45,700 western portion of the of member two has weathered this part away much more than the eastern 257 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:50,660 part here you see originally here's the line of the here's the line of the sphinx well any 258 00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:56,740 other explanation that's put forward by the opposition and they have been several explanations 259 00:17:56,740 --> 00:18:02,580 has to be able to account for a reason why this part of the wall is more weathered than that 260 00:18:02,580 --> 00:18:08,340 part of the wall and this is actually this is as far as we're concerned actually absolutely unarguable 261 00:18:08,340 --> 00:18:13,460 one of the theories has it that water the groundwater table has risen over thousands of years 262 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:19,460 and that water seeping up into the rock has actually caused the form of of of of weathering 263 00:18:19,460 --> 00:18:23,940 that's made the rock flag away and this is the result well a that doesn't work because 264 00:18:24,580 --> 00:18:29,380 if that were the case the bottom layers of the rock would be more weathered than the top layers 265 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:36,260 but the water is going to is going to go up like a pillar reaction into the stone evenly so 266 00:18:36,260 --> 00:18:42,500 it's that will not account for that will absolutely not account for this phenomenon that we see here 267 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:48,580 another explanation is that sand when sand fills in this is an explanation of a kind of 268 00:18:48,580 --> 00:18:53,300 weathering invented specifically to keep the chronology intact this happens sometimes in science 269 00:18:54,420 --> 00:19:00,580 the sand fills up the plateau here what little rain falls wets the sand which doesn't dry out very 270 00:19:00,580 --> 00:19:05,300 quickly this is good anyone has a kid sand boxing over rains it doesn't dry out the days 271 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:10,580 anyway wet sand packed up against this you pull the sand away and here's all the weathering 272 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:15,460 most is a nonsense theory to begin with but it absolutely doesn't work because it doesn't 273 00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:22,180 explain why you have more weathering here than there until we have next here now here's another 274 00:19:22,820 --> 00:19:28,980 wind and sand argument this is a tomb this is a tomb up the plateau but cut of effectively the 275 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:34,980 same kind of sand of limestone as the swings this is classic wind and sand weather you see what happens 276 00:19:34,980 --> 00:19:41,060 this has never been covered this is never it it's a lot weathered but you see that the profile of the stone 277 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:47,700 of the original wall retains its integrity and the wind in the sand scours out the soft 278 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:54,180 the softer bits but leaves the original slope of the wall intact with the picture here you see 279 00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:58,660 this is I mean this is neat to hell is it where I mean this is very severe weathering 280 00:19:58,660 --> 00:20:03,700 but here you see that the profile of the wall remains intact and this doesn't look at all 281 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:09,540 like and it's the same stone as this which is our classic water weathering so you see that the 282 00:20:09,620 --> 00:20:15,620 pieces all fit together now this is a tomb right alongside the swings built around the same time 283 00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:21,060 the swings are supposedly built about 2400 BC and you see that though this wall is not exactly 284 00:20:21,060 --> 00:20:27,460 in pristine condition it doesn't look at all like the thanks and coming up here this is the interior 285 00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:32,100 of that tomb now if any of those theories that we've been talking about particularly the water coming 286 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:39,460 up from underground we're responsible for the weathering that we see these interior water 287 00:20:39,460 --> 00:20:43,140 worlds of the of the swings would also be weathered and of course they're not they really do 288 00:20:43,140 --> 00:20:48,340 look as they just been cut recently so as we go through here's another view of the of the of the 289 00:20:48,340 --> 00:20:53,540 wall into that of the leading into the tomb and you see how close it is right to the swings exactly 290 00:20:53,540 --> 00:21:01,300 the same wall so one by one by one we we we we we rebut the rebuttals in turn and this ends this 291 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:08,100 gives us our our powerful case here we have another view of the you see the the severity of this weathering 292 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:13,860 here you get another good view and this is sorry this is another one of the rebutting theories 293 00:21:13,860 --> 00:21:19,700 which holds that the swings is a geological form called a yardang a yardang is you probably 294 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:24,980 have them on a straddle you have them in southwest America the maces where you have harder 295 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:32,500 outcropped harder harder parts of the rock that over geological time jut above the surface of the 296 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:37,940 of the desert as the softest stuff wears away by rain winds and whatever the weathering age 297 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:44,900 and so here's a very eminent geologist Egyptian geologist writing in the Smithsonian back in the 298 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:50,580 80s in which he's claiming that here's a harder outcropped of rock and the wind whips around it like this 299 00:21:50,580 --> 00:21:54,740 and the wind whips around like this and finally it sends up sort of like a looking like a lion 300 00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:59,700 and then the Egyptians look at this and say gee it looks like a lion and they carve a lion out of it 301 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:04,260 the problem with that and here's the example of a sort of a shrinks looking yardang I'm not exactly 302 00:22:04,340 --> 00:22:10,340 sure where that is but the problem without is a you can't cut that into anything looking like a lion 303 00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:14,900 no matter what you want it to do and the problem with the with that applied to the swings 304 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:20,020 well that's out of how the sequence here applied to the swings is that you see the swings is not a 305 00:22:20,020 --> 00:22:25,140 yardang it doesn't jut above the surface and the weathering goes all the way around it nice and 306 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:31,220 evenly so obviously it has to be carved into a lion before it can weather the way that it has weathered 307 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:37,380 so that theory gets dismissed now he carry along these are the repair campaigns to the 308 00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:44,020 swings this this is recently been re-repaired so you don't see this nice cutaway here anymore 309 00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:50,180 but it's about three feet of repair work has been done here now according to our mark 310 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:55,860 Lainer the archaeologist the swings was already weathered into its present condition when the first 311 00:22:55,860 --> 00:23:02,900 repairs were applied now what this means and then Lainer has also noted not noticing 312 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:08,020 initially that this was a contradiction that the oldest repair blocks to the swings you'll see 313 00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:14,740 these in a second are typical of old kingdom masonry now until you had thermo luminescence and 314 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:20,820 carbon dating and that sort of thing style was how you dated things if you saw for example a 315 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:26,660 medieval turret in the middle of a palladian mannerhouse in England you would not think that a 316 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:32,740 ha the nobleman who the the Lord who built this 18th century mannerhouse had a thing about medieval 317 00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:39,140 medieval architecture so he had built into his palladian mannerhouse a medieval turret an art historian 318 00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:44,500 or an architectural historian would know instantly that the turret was there first and this particular 319 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:50,180 Lord liked the turret there and instructed his architecture retain the turret as he built his 18th 320 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:57,140 century mannerhouse around it so basically when when you see a definitive style I mean there's 321 00:23:57,140 --> 00:24:01,940 an architectural style tells you what's Victorian and what's Georgian and what's Baroque and what's 322 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:07,860 Renaissance and so forth so in Egypt when you see old kingdom masonry that's old kingdom masonry 323 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:14,660 it's unmistakable you see new kingdom masonry there's absolutely no problem about distinguishing 324 00:24:15,380 --> 00:24:22,580 what comes where so if you if you have old kingdom repairs to the shrinks and the shrinks was already 325 00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:28,900 weathered when to its present condition when the first repairs were applied it means that 326 00:24:31,060 --> 00:24:37,060 the old kingdom goes from about 20 2600 to about 2200 BC if the shrinks is supposedly built 327 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:45,620 in 2450 BC and the old kingdom is over and 2200 BC and you have old kingdom repairs it means that 328 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:54,420 under desert condition three feet of of of of limestone has weathered away for it to be in in 329 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:59,140 150 years well this is absolutely ridiculous in fact there's no there's no known 330 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:04,980 building substance that wears away under desert conditions three feet not 150 years 331 00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:11,380 except possibly ice and the Egyptians weren't building egg lose so in order to get around this 332 00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:16,340 liner has said oh well really it's old kingdom blocks but they were cannibalized from something else 333 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:21,140 and and put on in the new kingdom but this doesn't work either because you then have about a 334 00:25:21,140 --> 00:25:26,740 thousand years less actually because the svex is buried for half that time and sand to give you 335 00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:31,940 three feet of weathering and effectively under these desert conditions you don't get any kind of 336 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:37,300 weathering in the space of 500 years or nothing to speak of not three feet of it this led Zahi 337 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:43,460 Hwas the director of the Gizapplato to suggest that the stone of the svex is so rotten that 338 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:49,140 effectively they had to repair it as they were as they were carving the svex there's also doesn't work 339 00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:55,140 because obviously the stone isn't bad at all the same stone is used to build the temples 340 00:25:55,140 --> 00:26:00,340 alongside and in front so as you see systematically step by step by step as we get a 341 00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:06,580 rebuttal and we re-rebut intern which leaves us in a very interesting position here you have that 342 00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:12,020 typical old kingdom old kingdom masonry in the back of the svex this is all new stuff this is 343 00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:20,900 a done at another time in any event the but the one of the arguments then put against us always 344 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:28,180 is that of context how can the svex be the only piece of remaining the artifact of this supposedly 345 00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:35,060 sophisticated civilization that existed in deep antiquity well it isn't actually and even from the 346 00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:40,820 beginning there were other pieces of evidence but shock hadn't looked at them yet actually and 347 00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:45,300 when I mentioned them to egepologists and archaeologists they suddenly get selectively death and 348 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:51,380 don't want to listen but in fact in the next couple of weeks shock and myself are going back over 349 00:26:51,380 --> 00:26:56,500 there to look at these other pieces of evidence as I said earlier a couple of independent geologists 350 00:26:56,580 --> 00:27:03,620 have come absolutely out of the blue very recently to corroborate the water weathering hypothesis 351 00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:08,260 so we're actually we're we're we're pretty much on a roll now and let's look at some of these other 352 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:14,900 pieces of evidence because these are actually this smoking guns and the way that science works 353 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:21,780 actually often is that the big thrust the major glamorous water weathering to the swings they argue 354 00:27:21,860 --> 00:27:26,420 about arguing about and argue about to such an extent that unless you're passionately interested 355 00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:32,340 in it and deeply involved in the in the process for the for the lay reader as it were the thing 356 00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:37,940 gets so complicated that they just say enough already and switch off and lose interest and this is 357 00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:45,380 the way that actually very often good and solid work can get simply lost in the you know in the 358 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:50,100 battle as it were never to surface again but we're lucky in this regard actually because 359 00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:59,460 well actually because a generation ago it could take another generation or two before this kind of 360 00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:06,100 work found an audience but nowadays if the subject is sexy enough you can get it in front of the 361 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:11,780 media and the media thank goodness are a moral they don't have a position to defend whereas whereas 362 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:18,340 mainstream newspapers for example the mainstream media particularly print media are church or 363 00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:26,580 progress devote so it's very difficult to get a to get a an objective or a fair hearing from them 364 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:30,580 but television doesn't give a damn as long as they get ratings they don't even care if it's good 365 00:28:30,580 --> 00:28:38,740 they'll put it on so so in this case actually we have the media on our side because it's Egypt 366 00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:44,900 and it's glamorous and it's the swings and all the rest of it so we can put this on to in America even 367 00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:49,460 network television in front of this show was seen originally by 30 million people probably 368 00:28:49,460 --> 00:28:54,180 been seen by a few hundred million around the world at a certain point the archaeology and 369 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:58,980 Egyptology professors get asked embarrassing questions by their students and at a certain point 370 00:28:58,980 --> 00:29:03,620 they get smoked out of their ivory towers that's about the position that we're in at the moment 371 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:08,740 and I think that when Choc and I go back over there on a couple of weeks to look at these other 372 00:29:08,740 --> 00:29:13,460 little pieces of evidence each one nothing glamorous about any of them but each one represents 373 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:19,220 a little smoking gun little twenty two maybe but you put seven or eight twenty two is together 374 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:24,180 and set them all off at the same time they make a big bang you can gun down a lot of Egyptologists 375 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:29,620 this way and I will look at some of these little bits of evidence to see how we do in the time here 376 00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:38,180 refine this is a this is a a strange structure about about a quarter of a mile away from the 377 00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:42,900 swings it's called a tomb of Kent Kaus who is one of the queens of Mencara the building the 378 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:48,100 builder of the third pyramid and you see that it's bedrock here with the superstructure built 379 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:53,620 on top this is unquestionably old kingdom masonry here but you see the strains looking bedrock here 380 00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:58,980 and what we have here actually here you see the bedrock's been cut away in steps what we have here 381 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:04,100 isn't all the structure we have we have something from that's things period and to repair it 382 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:10,180 it was undoubtedly repaired in the old kingdom to repair it instead of fitting blocks carefully into 383 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:14,580 the undulated grooves as they did on the sinks because with the sinks you have to you're 384 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:19,860 going to end up with a lion body so you have to tailor make you know each stone has to be carved 385 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,860 exactly right to fit into the grooves here you don't have to do that here you're just trying to get 386 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:30,420 a smooth surface so you cut back steps and you put as you see in a second oh here's another 387 00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:34,820 view of it you see the way it's step see in a minute here and here you see behind this 388 00:30:34,820 --> 00:30:39,940 of the steps this is another side of that of that Kent Kaus tomb and here you see what is 389 00:30:39,940 --> 00:30:47,940 unquestionably old kingdom masonry repair blocks fit onto those steps to give you what what it would 390 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:53,140 have been an old kingdom time to smooth surface but one of the keys here this is old kingdom 391 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:59,380 masonry on the shrinks and this again just for style old kingdom on the shrinks old kingdom 392 00:30:59,380 --> 00:31:05,060 masonry on the Kent Kaus pyramid I'm sorry the Kent Kaus tomb so again you see the similarity 393 00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:09,940 and style but this is the telling piece of evidence here and there's one of the neat things about 394 00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:15,780 doing this work sometimes people say you know shock in fact initially when I showed him the evidence 395 00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:21,060 one of the reasons that he he was skeptical was that he couldn't believe that nobody had seen 396 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:27,380 that it was water weathering it was so obvious to him but in the fence of the opposition as it were 397 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:33,300 I'd walk this plateau a thousand times and sometimes somebody on one of my trips what 398 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:37,780 reasons I like going on these trips is people teach me things and one of the trips somebody looks 399 00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:42,740 and says hey what about that and I look at it and having seen it a thousand times of course 400 00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:46,980 it could God I never noticed that so on one of these trips this is known you know people have 401 00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:52,020 if you look through you know amateur astronomer and you see a comet you name the comet apps you 402 00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:57,140 know hail Bob or hail these comet or whatever whatever well this is Jennifer's coroner 403 00:31:57,220 --> 00:32:03,620 because who's who's what we call Jennifer was on my trip we looked at this and this is the 404 00:32:03,620 --> 00:32:08,660 coroner of that Kent Kaus tomb and said gee look at that that's the bedrock and it's all 405 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:14,260 deeply weathered behind the the casing stones and I looked at it said yes of course and here 406 00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:19,540 the casing stones you see are practically intact it's this tiny little one course of stone is fallen 407 00:32:19,540 --> 00:32:25,620 off here so if this is the old kingdom and this is already deeply weathered stone obviously the 408 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:31,460 stone has to have been weathered before the old kingdom repairs were put on smoking gun 409 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:36,660 because one of the things that we will be looking at in shock will right up and appropriately 410 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:42,020 scientific language when we go back there more of it this is another picture of Jennifer's coroner 411 00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:47,700 and you see that the stone has been carefully cut to marry to this already deeply weathered rock 412 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:52,180 is a very powerful little piece of evidence and here we have actually it's been cut away a bit 413 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:57,220 but here we have more of those water weathered deep fishes such as we saw around the swings 414 00:32:57,220 --> 00:33:01,860 so this is another piece of the puzzle this is still another piece of the puzzle these are the mud 415 00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:07,700 brick tombs in saccara there's the step pyramid about ten miles away from the pyramid now 416 00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:13,380 these are the other tombs of the earliest kings of dynastic Egypt first and second dynasty 417 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:20,740 3000 BC to 2800 BC and you'll see that the mud brick itself is actually pretty recognizable 418 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:26,420 if water weathered the swings away and in fact one of the one of Marc Lainer's 419 00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:30,820 contentions is that the present day weathering is enough to account for the way that the 420 00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:35,300 swings looks it isn't actually for a variety of reasons but of that were the case 421 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:39,140 of a little bit of rain now and again was enough to weather the swings away 422 00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:45,060 well it would have dissolved the mud bricks of these of these earlier tombs long ago so you can throw 423 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:51,700 there's another little piece of carabatory evidence now one of the things that's one of the 424 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:56,660 arguments that's always thrown at us is that of context and this is one of the few arguments actually 425 00:33:56,660 --> 00:34:04,980 that has that has some validity because if we are right and if we are right and a civilization 426 00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:10,980 a high civilization existed way way back in the past and then suddenly there's dynastic Egypt 427 00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:17,940 what's going on in between and in fact we claim as a long withdrawal or that dynastic Egypt is 428 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:23,460 a kind of a legacy from that earlier stage of civilization what was happening in between why is there 429 00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:29,860 nothing we'll see professor Deaver in the video coming up in a few minutes talking about this well 430 00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:36,020 there is actually some context but we think there could be some context in the neolithic periods 431 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:43,220 preceding dynastic Egypt that is to say let's say 4,500 BC to about 3,200 BC there's a lot of evidence 432 00:34:43,220 --> 00:34:48,580 of little fishing villages of a little settlements on the bank of a mile and they turn up 433 00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:57,620 little figurines like this very crude and primitive fish hooks crude pots a little bits of cloth 434 00:34:57,620 --> 00:35:03,700 and things of that sort but I mean it's quite clearly not a highly sophisticated technological 435 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:09,540 civilization at the same time in these finds that produce those statues that we just saw 436 00:35:10,420 --> 00:35:16,020 are pots like this now this is made out of you see there's a beautifully formed pot 437 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:22,420 made of one of the hardest stones known a porphyry it's almost unworkable even with machine tools 438 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:26,660 and you see it's hollow down in the center here's an even more dramatic example he's 439 00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:33,860 both in the kira museum this is a a a a shist which is also another almost unworkable stone 440 00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:39,060 now the problem here is that not only is this perfect geometric beautiful beautiful shape 441 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:44,020 but the it's hollow on the inside this is about the width the width of the the the lip is basically 442 00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:50,500 the width of the entire of the of the shell of this pot but it's it's hollowed down the inside there 443 00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:56,500 even more dramatic pot shaped like a flask like this with a long neck and then a a bulb like this 444 00:35:56,500 --> 00:36:03,620 and it's hollow in the center there now we we don't have a clue how to how to hollow out a stone pot 445 00:36:03,620 --> 00:36:08,340 like that we just we just plain don't know and the suggestion has been made actually there's a 446 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:14,180 rather interesting book the first half is interesting anyway by a a machinist called Chris Dunn 447 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:18,820 who's looked at the problem of these pots and come up with the idea that in order to make these pots 448 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:25,300 you needed some form of very advanced machining I mean he couldn't even imagine what it would be 449 00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:31,860 but by looking at carefully studying these pots and looking at the interior striations that the 450 00:36:31,860 --> 00:36:37,140 dribbles are going around that thousands of revolutions per minute in a way that he couldn't even 451 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:42,580 account for in other words the bottom line is we couldn't make one of these pots today and we don't 452 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:50,820 know how they were made and they're found in sites where everything else is little fish hooks and 453 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:58,900 crude pottery and bits and pieces of bone and things of that sort so we have an idea that those 454 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:03,540 those little societies almost certainly couldn't have done these the Egyptians themselves 455 00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:08,660 varnastic Egyptians didn't do them they come from earlier and we think that possibly these pots 456 00:37:08,740 --> 00:37:13,380 they're quite a number of them in various museums are actually heirlooms from that still earlier 457 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:20,500 civilization which was capable of producing extraordinary feats of engineering and of architecture 458 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:25,220 and we'll be coming to those in a second as well now here's some more evidence coming up some nice 459 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:31,140 stuff this is the great pyramid these are the few remaining casing stones and this is the 460 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:36,820 apron or the the paving stones that lead out from the great pyramid now you look at these paving 461 00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:42,580 stones now this is and this is sorry this is the cough up here I'm going to have you notice take a look at 462 00:37:42,580 --> 00:37:46,980 these at these lower courses here they look different from the upper courses I'll come to those in 463 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:53,380 the second here you have a few granite casing stones still are not still existing still in place 464 00:37:53,380 --> 00:37:58,740 on the exterior but over here we have and I have friend of mine standing there for scale as it 465 00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:03,140 where you see the size of these paving stones around the great pyramid this is the great pyramid 466 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:08,980 and these are about the size of you know it's a smallish table there about 12 inches 18 inches deep 467 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:13,860 very very carefully fitted in the place you can't put a piece of paper in between those blocks 468 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:18,660 but you see the blocks themselves are manageable size they probably weigh close on to a ton 469 00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:24,980 now when we get over to the cough up here I'm at which I'm convinced this part of the older plan 470 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:30,260 it also has paving stones around on the outside but these are the paving stones you think you're 471 00:38:30,340 --> 00:38:42,020 on bedrock this is one stone that's one stone there's another picture of various stones see 472 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:49,540 that's one stone that's one stone now we have an edge on view this is these are the stones that 473 00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:53,460 we were standing on before this is the edge on view and you see that the stones themselves are 474 00:38:53,460 --> 00:39:00,180 some 60 thick now and they fit together again if you get past the surface weathering you can't put 475 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:07,060 a knife blade or a piece of paper between the joints these stones weigh 200 tons and up how they are 476 00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:13,220 put into place nobody knows why they are used in such a way I mean why do you need 477 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:21,220 three at least three courses of 200 ton blocks around surrounding your pyramid absolutely no 478 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:28,420 answer to this the dynastic Egyptians did not in fact build to this kind of scale very often they 479 00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:32,660 could do it when they had to they could move those giant obelisks and so on but this is one of the 480 00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:36,980 things this is one of these disparities in style now we get back to the cough repairum it again 481 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:41,860 the great pyramid all of the core makes and reasets called all looks like this unquestionably 482 00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:47,140 old kingdom if the cough repairum it the lower courses are made of these gigantic blocks you'll see 483 00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:52,100 in a second when we get back down to the swanks these are huge blocks when God knows 100 tons of 484 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:57,380 so and you see much more carefully dressed and in fact they're uneven they get over here we get over 485 00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:01,620 here here there are three courses over here there are four and five up around the entrance to the 486 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:06,500 pyramid they're eight or nine so our our contentions one of the things I'll be looking at with 487 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:12,900 shop next week are in a couple of weeks is that this is in fact an artifact of that earlier stage 488 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:18,980 of construction although it's not just the slinks and and and its valley temples that remain from 489 00:40:18,980 --> 00:40:25,620 that earlier period but the the pyramids themselves even though the present day pyramids are we're 490 00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:32,900 pretty sure built when the egyptologists insist they will built about 2500 BC they are built they 491 00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:39,620 are either replaced as in the case of the great pyramid or are superimposed upon the remains of 492 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:44,500 that still earlier period so this is another big piece of evidence that we'll be looking into 493 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:51,060 this is in the valley temple next to the swanks these are the blocks by the way that came out of 494 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:56,660 the enclosure remember when I said the syringe had to be hollowed out in order to in order to produce 495 00:40:56,660 --> 00:41:01,300 its core body well these are the blocks that were hollowed that would take in a way and these 496 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:05,620 tremendous hundred hundred fifty two hundred unblock to build the temple in front 497 00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:12,020 now in our video those of you who've seen the video we went to the crane drivers there was a 498 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:16,980 big construction project out on Long Island where they had the biggest land-based crane in the 499 00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:22,340 world it could lift 200 tons we went to the project manager and said and said okay we gave him pictures 500 00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:27,540 like this and said could you do this with your crane and he looked at it very hard and he said you know 501 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:31,860 I've looked at things like this before because we're interested in how people move big blocks in the 502 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:38,020 past and now that you show it to me no I we could move this block but we couldn't we don't know how 503 00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:43,540 we'd rig it to fit it into place the way it's all jointed in like this and besides he said the 504 00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:50,980 crane that he was using took six it took six weeks it took a crew of man six weeks to set this crane 505 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:55,380 up so it could make one lift in other words it could take a two hundred ton boiler and move 506 00:41:55,380 --> 00:42:00,180 it's sixty feet you know from here to here but it took six weeks to set the crane up so that it would 507 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:05,220 and then the crane would have to be moved again to get the next block into place so in other words 508 00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:11,140 it became a job even if you can figure out how to rig it it would become a job somehow somewhat 509 00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:16,580 like a like a space station in other words it would have stretched modern technology to the limit 510 00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:22,100 to be able to reproduce this which is supposedly only done with ropes and levers we have the truth 511 00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:27,780 in the matter as we have no idea how this was done and we couldn't do it today and this is where the 512 00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:33,860 implications get uncomfortable for the church of progress because okay even if you talk about 513 00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:39,140 our architectural or artistic mastery the church of progress really doesn't give a damn about 514 00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:44,740 artistic mastery but technological mastery it cares a lot about and the demonstration that 515 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:49,380 not just in the Nastiki trip but maybe thirty thousand years ago or fifteen thousand years or 516 00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:57,060 ten thousand years ago it was a civilization on earth who not only had the the the artistic 517 00:42:57,140 --> 00:43:03,700 mastery at its fingertips but who also had a technological mastery that we can't emulate or reproduce 518 00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:10,020 it starts getting hot for them here we are back again at the swings temple this is just the 519 00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:16,660 back of it you see how the the stones are all cut into place this is the two stage construction 520 00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:22,100 of the swings temple itself the these are the older core blocks these are the facing stones put up 521 00:43:22,580 --> 00:43:27,940 it's said by we call it the cipher a temple but quite frankly I think that this is still at 522 00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:33,620 earlier stage of construction here we have another view of the of the of the granite facing and the 523 00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:39,540 older blocks behind it now this is another piece of the puzzle this is in hobby dose and this is 524 00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:46,900 called it's called the ozerion supposedly the symbolic tomb of the head of ozirus of esotericly ozirus 525 00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:52,340 consciousness this is cut deep into the ground the kitchen temples are never cut into the ground 526 00:43:52,340 --> 00:43:58,260 built of these massive granite blocks they're 12 feet high six on either side and perfectly put 527 00:43:58,260 --> 00:44:04,180 into position we're sure this is another piece of the puzzle and actually this is another very 528 00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:09,140 good shot of the ozerion the water level is come up here so it's all water in and now 529 00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:15,940 water in there and they're all your shot now they pump the water out but in fact our our plan is 530 00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:21,620 shocking myself and we set up in fact we set up a charitable foundation because to do this we're 531 00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:26,980 cost money and it's expensive the nobody has the money to finance it so we in fact have set up 532 00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:32,500 an ancient wisdom fund to carry this work further and the idea is once we once we get over there 533 00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:38,900 with shock in the next couple of weeks we'll represent our new findings to the geological society of 534 00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:44,580 America and if we get if they give us a presentation and we're sure they're pretty sure that they will 535 00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:49,460 that will be more headlines and then what we want to do is bring an independent panel of geologists 536 00:44:49,460 --> 00:44:55,700 having nothing to do with you know with us or with our theories over to review the evidence of the 537 00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:02,100 water weathering if they corroborate that then we want to go after big time into getting another 538 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:07,700 full scale scientific expedition over there with seismographs and ground penetrating radar 539 00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:12,260 to start looking for other because it's got to be more there I mean and start looking for other 540 00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:21,220 you know other other evidence for this the whole ancient ancient science hypothesis and anyway the 541 00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:26,500 question often comes up here they're working repairing the swings how the pyramids were built well not 542 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:33,700 like this and here's a building going up in modern Cairo would build like to see there 543 00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:38,660 the question the truth of the matter is we don't know how the pyramids were built or how those 544 00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:44,900 walls of the great sinks were built we're doing here for time I'm going to I can 545 00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:50,100 gather this here we are working with our digital sledchamer and what we're looking for is further 546 00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:57,620 evidence of underground whatever and it's a the sledchamer goes against the metal plate sound 547 00:45:57,620 --> 00:46:02,740 waves going to the ground the red out by the seismograph and you get a kind of a scrambled egg 548 00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:08,340 looking reading which I to me makes no sense at all but to Tombo Joe Beckie the geophysicist 549 00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:14,820 outcomes very interesting outcomes very interesting data among them some of you may have heard 550 00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:21,300 about this is a very famous little bit of geophysics here this is the reading let's see over here 551 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:26,820 these darker shadows darker seconds here are anomalies these these these these tell you what 552 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:32,900 probably hollows or caverns or chambers in the around in and around the core body of the 553 00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:39,940 swing this is just a harder bit of rock there but see is very definitely unknown can't really 554 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:45,540 call it a chamber it's kind of a cavern behind the swings pull away a block here you can go down a 555 00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:51,060 rope ladder and get into this cavern here looks you mean this is called the profile of it pretty well 556 00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:56,020 that cavern is there well equally clearly we seem to have something under the left pole of this 557 00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:01,380 swing sphere doesn't look rectangular but according to the Becky it's basically rectangular and 558 00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:08,340 shape it's about under about five meters of bedrock and the the anomaly itself or the cavern or 559 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:16,180 the void or whatever it is is some what is it nine by 12 by 15 meters no there's a big room and 560 00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:22,340 how deep we're not exactly sure but this of course those of you who know the Edgar Casey work 561 00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:26,820 know that he predicted the whole of records in which the history of Atlantis would be found 562 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:31,780 would be found in a chamber under he said the right pole of the swing well it's the left 563 00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:35,540 ball of the swing but if you're looking from the other way it's a right point you can argue about this 564 00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:43,860 in any event the seismographs tell us it's there the the zahihawas who was a bit of enemy for 565 00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:49,540 many many years and we've now established a kind of strange peace process in which we're as 566 00:47:49,540 --> 00:47:55,620 bitterly opposed as ever on the intellectual or the or the Egyptological level but on personal level 567 00:47:55,620 --> 00:48:00,260 we're fine we go and have a beer together and smoke the shea so this is very promising for getting 568 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:05,060 permission to get back there with our scientists seven to four feet go through this process with the 569 00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:12,260 GSA and independent panel of geologists and so on and any event everybody is waiting to see what 570 00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:22,420 if anything is in this chamber here we have here so we feel that we're closing in on with these 571 00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:27,460 smoking gun pieces of evidence and there are a number of others that I just didn't have slides for 572 00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:32,420 so no no point in describing them here you'll see one of them actually because it's not a slide 573 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:40,820 it's a ticket off the computer in the in the video coming up with the professor diva and anyway 574 00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:49,380 we feel that we're we're not far off from getting the shrinks out of its mist and unrivdling it 575 00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:54,740 and I don't know if you can see that there and bringing it back or at least bringing back the 576 00:48:58,820 --> 00:49:04,340 not just the shrinks but the the the the the the true understanding of of the of the great 577 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:13,300 Egyptian civilization back into public consciousness where it can have a deeply I mean a very 578 00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:19,060 profound effect because I mean you're hearing already today and we'll be hearing more of this 579 00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:26,500 of some of the negative shenanigans of the of the famous church or progress and in my view 580 00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:33,460 the the recovery of the of the ancient sacred sciences is about as important as anything could 581 00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:40,740 possibly be because again this is personal opinion but no civilization is possible if it is not found 582 00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:47,940 that upon that that that that doctrine of return to the source or the science of immortality in other 583 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:54,660 words if we if we don't nourish we don't understand or if we deny that we have souls and that those 584 00:49:54,660 --> 00:50:00,740 souls are at least potentially immortal we have no civilization at all and it's winter take all 585 00:50:00,740 --> 00:50:04,180 and all the rest of the horrible stuff that we see around us so now