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Has man existed for only 25 million years?
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Does he really descend from the monkey?
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Michael Crémo, researcher in history and philosophy of science,
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member of the History of Science Society and the American Anthropological Association,
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author of the book The Secret History of the Human Spaceship, as well as several other books and articles,
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here we are being delivered the faults of official archeology,
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and this, with the help of testimonies of the greatest archeologists of our time.
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They reveal to us proofs until then kept secret,
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thus demonstrating the priority of human existence on Earth,
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while destroying the hypotheses of the theory of evolution.
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Filmed at the University of Concordia,
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this shock conference will soon be available in DVD, in French and in English.
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which gives a Vedic perspective on human origins and antiquity.
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So, first of all, I'd like to introduce myself as a researcher in history and philosophy of science
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for the Bach-Dividant Institute.
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And that is the science studies branch of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
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The purpose of the Institute is to study concepts of modern science
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in light of India's timeless Vedic wisdom.
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So the talk I'm going to give tonight is based on talks that I've given at
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the Royal Institution in London,
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the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow,
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and other scientific institutions, conferences and universities throughout the world.
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My research into human origins and antiquity is guided by my studies in the ancient Sanskrit writings of India.
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And these writings tell us that human civilizations have come and gone on this planet for vast periods of cyclical time.
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If you'd like to learn a little bit more about this Vedic concept of cyclical time,
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you can consult this paper which I presented at the World Archaeological Congress,
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and it was later published in a peer-reviewed conference proceedings volume.
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The basic unit of Vedic cyclical time is called the Day of Brahma or the Kalpa.
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This Day of Brahma lasts for 4,320,000,000,000 years.
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It's followed by a Night of Brahma which also lasts for 4,320,000,000,000,000 years.
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And the days follow the nights endlessly in succession.
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And during the days of Brahma, life, including human life, is manifest in the universe,
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and during the nights, life is dormant.
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Now if we carefully study the Vedic cosmological calendar,
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we'll see that the current day of Brahma, the one we're in right now,
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began about 2 billion years ago.
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So a Vedic archaeologist might expect to find evidence for a human presence
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going back almost 2 billion years.
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Now the ancient Vedic writings also speak of ape men.
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The idea of ape men wasn't invented by European scientists of the 19th century.
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Long before that, the authors of these ancient Sanskrit writings were speaking of such things.
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But they also tell us that alongside these ape men existed human beings like us.
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So the basic picture that you get is one of coexistence, not evolution.
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And the period of coexistence goes very, very, very far back in time.
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Of course, these ideas are somewhat different from the ideas about human origins and antiquity
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that we get from Charles Darwin and his modern followers.
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Actually, a friend of mine from India told me recently,
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he said, Michael, maybe you're a reincarnation of Charles Darwin.
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You've had to come back to correct your mistake.
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So I don't know if I can do it in one life, but I'll try.
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So I don't know if I can do it in one lifetime.
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It may take me a few hundred or so, but maybe you can help me out a little bit.
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So what do the Darwinists tell us about human origins?
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Well, first of all, they say that life began on earth between 2 and 3 billion years ago.
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Some scientists say they can detect chemical signs of life going back about 3 billion years.
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But the oldest undisputed fossil evidence for life that paleontologists now have,
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fossils of undisputed single cell creatures, go back about 2 billion years,
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which is, interestingly enough, the beginning of the day of Brahma.
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Then they say the first primates, the first apes and monkeys,
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came into existence about 40 million years ago.
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Then they say the first hominids, the first ape men, came into existence about 6 million years ago.
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And finally they say that humans of our type, anatomically modern humans,
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came into existence about 100,000 years ago.
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At least that's the age of the oldest undisputed fossil evidence for anatomically modern humans
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in terms of what modern archaeologists think is true.
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And they say all of the physical evidence supports this evolutionary picture of human origins
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with human beings like us coming into existence between 100 or 150,000 years ago, something like that.
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But when I did 8 years of research into the entire history of archaeology,
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I found something quite different.
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I found that over the past 150 years,
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archaeologists have discovered huge amounts of evidence
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showing that humans like us have existed throughout this entire period of time,
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going all the way back to the very beginning of the history of life on earth.
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This evidence takes the form of anatomically modern human skeletal remains,
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anatomically modern human footprints, and human artifacts of various kinds.
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I've documented this evidence in this book, Forbidden Archaeology,
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co-authored with my co-author Richard Thompson.
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It's a 900-page book, basically aimed at the scientific world.
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The book is also available in a shorter, popular edition,
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which is also available in French.
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It's been published in French in Europe by the publisher Roche.
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So you can get it on, if you like French,
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if you prefer French as your primary language,
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it's available on the French Amazon.com.
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Now this evidence for extreme human antiquity,
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which contradicts the current theories,
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is not very well known, both within the scientific world and to the public at large,
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because of what I call a process of knowledge filtration
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that operates in the world of science.
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We can call this blue box here the knowledge filter,
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and it represents the current consensus on human origins.
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And reports of evidence that conform to this consensus
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will pass through this social and intellectual filter very easily,
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which means students will read about this evidence in their textbooks,
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people will hear scientists speaking about it on television,
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if they go to the local museum of natural history,
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they'll see the artifacts and bones on display.
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But if we have reports that radically contradict this current consensus,
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they tend to be filtered out of the discussion,
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which means we don't read about this evidence in our textbooks,
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we don't hear scientists speaking very much about it,
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and if we go to the museum we won't see the artifacts or bones on display,
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although they may be there somewhere in the museum collection.
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And I'm not talking here about some satanic conspiracy theory,
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it's a very well-known established fact among historians,
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philosophers and sociologists of science,
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that theory determines how evidence is treated.
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And what I've simply done is demonstrate how that process
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operates in archaeology and human origin studies generally.
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So what I'd like to do now is give a few representative examples
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of the kinds of evidence that I'm talking about.
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I want to show two things.
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First of all, that this evidence actually does exist,
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and I also want to say something about how the knowledge filtering process
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is used in each case.
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So I'm going to start with evidence that's relatively close
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to what many scientists are now prepared to accept
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in terms of human antiquity,
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and then gradually we'll go back further and further and further in time.
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And some of these, as I said, this knowledge filtering process
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has been going on for a long time,
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so some of the cases I'm going to talk about
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are from the more recent history of archaeology,
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some of the cases will be from the earlier history of archaeology.
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This is Virginia Steen McIntyre.
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She's an American geologist who I know personally.
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When she was a young woman just beginning her career in archaeology,
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she was involved in dating an archaeological site in Mexico
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called the Huayetlaco, which is near the town of Puebla in central Mexico.
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There, some American archaeologists discovered these artifacts
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and others liked them.
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And they may look primitive to us,
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but according to archaeologists,
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artifacts of this type are made only by anatomically modern humans,
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not by any kind of ape man.
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The excavation was conducted by archaeologist Cynthia Irwin Williams.
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She conducted a very professional excavation
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up to all the modern standards.
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The artifacts were photographed in place
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when they were discovered, such as this one here
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and here as a close-up of it,
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solidly embedded in the rock,
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indicating it was an original part of those deposits.
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Now, of course, the archaeologists have been very careful
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and they all just want to know how old these implements were.
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So they called in a team of geologists to date the site,
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and in that team was Virginia Steen-McIntyre.
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So she and her colleagues used four different methods to date the site.
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In the same layer as the artifacts,
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animal bones with butchering marks were found.
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That's another indication of a human presence.
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So they used the uranium series method to date those bones.
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They used two different uranium series methods.
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The protactinium method gave an age of greater than 100,000 years.
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The thorium age was 245,000 years.
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Directly above the layer in which the animal bones
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and human artifacts were found was a layer of volcanic ash.
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So the geologists used the Zircon fission track method
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to date that layer of ash, and they got an age of 270,000 years,
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which means the animal bones and human artifacts below that layer
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had to be at least that old.
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They also used a method called tephrahydration.
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This is based on the fact that volcanic crystals over time
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gradually absorb water molecules,
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and the water molecules begin to fill up little vesicles or air bubbles
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in the crystals.
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By measuring the amount of water that accumulates in the crystals,
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you can get some idea of the age of the ash.
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The age they got using that method was consistent with the methods
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they got using the Zircon fission track method
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and the uranium series method.
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And finally they used standard stratigraphic evidence.
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The artifact layers were about 10 meters deep
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in terms of the landscape there,
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and they could determine by studying the geology of the region
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that the site had originally been covered by another 50 meters of sediment.
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So they calculated how long,
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studying the hydrogeology of the area,
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how long it would have taken to erode those 50 meters
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down to the present level.
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And again, that age was consistent with the ages obtained by the other methods.
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The geologist, Virginia Steen-McIntyre and her colleagues,
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concluded that the age of the site was at least 250,000 years
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and they considered that a very conservative estimate.
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The archaeologist absolutely refused to accept this date.
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They said, that's impossible.
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Human beings capable of making these artifacts
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did not exist anywhere in the world 250,000 years ago
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because they hadn't evolved yet.
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And what to speak of being present in North America
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and the current consensus is that
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you have no human beings entering North America
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until 20,000 years ago maximum.
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And most, the current consensus is actually around 15,000 years.
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So they absolutely refused to publish the date for the site
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given by their own team of geologists
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that they themselves called in to date the site.
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Now when Virginia Steen-McIntyre
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and some of her colleagues independently published the date for the site,
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she found herself in big trouble.
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A rumor campaign was started.
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People were calling her a maverick, a publicity seeker, a troublemaker.
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She lost a teaching position that she held at a university in the United States
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because of this publication.
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And she also suddenly found that all of her opportunities for advancement
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in the United States Geological Survey were suddenly blocked.
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So those are some of the pressures
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that can be applied to scientists
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who have the temerity to challenge this current consensus.
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But what happened is that Virginia Steen-McIntyre
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she was so disgusted by the treatment she was given
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that she and her husband moved out to a little town
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in the Rocky Mountains in America.
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And she just remained silent for ten years
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until I found out about her case and wrote about it
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in Forbidden Archaeology
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and started getting her work some of the attention I think it deserves.
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And partly because of that some new research
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is now going on down at that Wai'atlaco site.
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And the results that are coming in
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are tending to confirm the original date
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that Virginia Steen-McIntyre and her colleagues got.
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For example, one of the world's leading experts on diatoms
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has gone down there and looked at the site.
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So diatoms are tiny little plants
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that are almost microscopic
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but they leave little hard skeletons when they die.
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And there are hundreds of kinds of diatoms
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each of them characteristic of a particular period
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in the Earth's geological history.
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So Van Leningham found that the type of diatoms found
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in the artifact-bearing layers at Wai'atlaco
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are the type that lived in that period 250,000 years ago.
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In the 1990s a German archaeologist named Thiema
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found some very nicely made wooden spears
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at a site called Schenningen in Germany.
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And he found them in the area
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at a site called Schenningen in Germany.
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His report was published in Nature.
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The interesting thing about these spears
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is they were shaped, they were about six feet long,
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they were shaped exactly like modern javelins
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that they use in the Olympics
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with a balance point about one third from the tip.
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They were obviously a weapon made for throwing and hunting.
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Now they were found in soft coal deposits 320,000 years old.
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So Thiema and his colleagues had to think,
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well who made these? Who made these artifacts?
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They decided it could not have been human beings like us
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because human beings like us did not exist 320,000 years ago.
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So they thought it must have been some variety of Homo erectus.
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Living in Europe 300,000 years ago who made these artifacts.
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Now that was a little bit unusual because up to this point
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archaeologists generally believed that
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the making and using of throwing weapons like this
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was something that only anatomically modern humans did.
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They never attributed this kind of behavior to Homo erectus.
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As a matter of fact the oldest throwing spears
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that they had up to this point were less than 100,000 years old
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which meant they fit in with their ideas
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about the origin of anatomically modern humans.
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So they thought, well human beings like us did not exist,
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Homo erectus must have made them.
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But I believe there is another
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solution to this problem
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and it lies in northern France
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where Jacques Boucher de Perret,
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one of the famous early archaeologists
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made an interesting discovery.
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At a site called Abbeville in northeastern France
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he discovered this anatomically modern
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human jaw.
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He discovered it in this layer of his excavation
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along with many artifacts of the human type
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stone tools and weapons.
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Now according to modern geologists
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this layer at the Moulin-Quignon site at Abbeville
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is 320,000 years old.
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Even at the time that this human jaw bone was discovered
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in the mid-19th century it was very controversial.
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Many scientists could not believe that humans existed
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in such a distant time in the past.
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So what they said was to explain the discovery
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they said, well obviously
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it was some sort of hoax.
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Some workmen had gone to some cemetery somewhere
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maybe a Roman cemetery in the region
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and uncovered some human jaw
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and had planted it in the excavation
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for Boucher de Perret to find.
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And actually that's the story that you see
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in every textbook today.
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Now what you don't see in the textbooks
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is that Boucher de Perret was very well known
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Boucher de Perret was very upset by these accusations
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so he went out and he performed one dozen additional excavations
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at this site under conditions that completely ruled out
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any type of hoaxing or planting of artifacts.
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The excavations that he conducted were witnessed by
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professional geologists, other scientists
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other responsible people
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and in those additional excavations
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he found in the same layers
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100 additional anatomically modern human bones and teeth
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but you won't read about that in the textbooks.
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So what I would propose is that those new discoveries
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confirm the original discovery of the anatomically modern human jaw
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and what we have here is evidence for an anatomically modern human population
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that existed in Northern Europe over 300,000 years ago
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and I would propose it was members of that population
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who made the spears, the exquisitely made throwing spears
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that were found by Tima in Northern Germany in the 1990s.
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I presented a paper on this topic at a major international conference
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on history of science
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it was published in a peer review conference proceedings volume
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if you'd like to have a look at it
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I welcome you to do that.
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And again in the 1990s
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some Australian archaeologists made some interesting discoveries
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of human artifacts on Flores Island in Indonesia.
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Their report was published in Nature
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here's an illustration of some of the artifacts found there
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the artifacts were found in this layer of their excavation
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which they dated using the Zircon Fish and Track method
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they got an age of about 800,000 years
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and again they had to decide
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well who made these artifacts
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they decided it couldn't have been human beings like us
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because of course as everyone knows
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human beings like us did not exist 800,000 years ago
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so who made the artifacts
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again they decided
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must have been Homo erectus
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because that's who lived during that time
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nobody else was around
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who else could have done it
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but there was a problem with that
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but there was a problem with that
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now this map shows the area as it existed
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800,000 years ago
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you can see the coast of Australia comes out further
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it was a time of lowered sea levels
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but even during that time
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we can see that Flores Island is separated
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from the nearest land masses
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by wide expanses of ocean
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so the question was
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how did Homo erectus get to Flores Island?
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so the archaeologist suggested
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well he made a boat and sailed there
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you know, paddled there on a raft
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which was really quite an extraordinary proposal
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because up to this time
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up to the time of this discovery
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archaeologists and anthropologists
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considered deliberate ocean crossing
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something only that humans of our type did
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and actually the oldest evidence they had for it
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was evidence for
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sea crossing of anatomically modern humans
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to Australia
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about 50,000 years ago
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and also they had some evidence in Europe
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for deliberate sea crossings
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to the islands in the Mediterranean
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around 25,000 years ago
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so to be proposing that
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Homo erectus was doing this
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800,000 years ago
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was really going out there
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outside the box
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but I believe there's another
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solution
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to this little dilemma
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and the solution lies here in Java
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it was in Java that the very first
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fossils of Homo erectus
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were discovered back in the 1890s
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by the Dutch researcher Dubois
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he found this
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quite primitive skullcap
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with these very pronounced eyebrow ridges
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and
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he also found a year later
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in the same excavation
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but about 15 meters away
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this thigh bone
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which
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he considered to be
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a little bit primitive
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and he put the two together
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the skull bone and the thigh bone
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and said well here we have the Java ape man
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Pythagantropus erectus
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which is now known
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under the genus name Homo erectus
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and that's a story you'll see in every textbook
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what you don't see in the textbooks
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is that
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later in the 1970s
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two prominent British physical anthropologists
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very carefully studied
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this thigh bone, this femur
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and they found
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it was
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identical in every respect
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to an anatomically modern human femur
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in all of its measurements and characteristics
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they also found that this thigh bone
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was different
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than any other Homo erectus thigh bone
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that was found after
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this first one and many have been found in
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in Africa and China
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so their report
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if you'd like to have a look at it is here
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but I think it's very interesting
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that the thigh bone
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is considered to be exactly like that
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of a modern human being
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because according to Dubois
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this is his original map of his
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stratigraphy of the site
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the skull and the thigh bone
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were found in the exact same layer
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and according to modern geologists
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who have used the potassium argon method
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to date this site
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this layer where both the bones were found
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is 800,000 years old roughly
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so what I think we have here is evidence
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that two types of hominids were existing in
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Java about 800,000 years ago
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there was a population of Homo erectus
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as represented by the Homo erectus skull
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and there was also a population of
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anatomically modern humans coexisting along with them
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as represented by the anatomically modern
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human femur found in the same layer
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and I would propose it was members of this
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anatomically modern human population
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that made the sea crossing to Flores Island
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and left the stone tools there
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so the message is that
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to explain this type of evidence
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we don't necessarily have to try to
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dress up Homo erectus
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raise Homo erectus to the human cultural level
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there's another explanation
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there's actual physical evidence that
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anatomically modern humans were existing
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300,000 years ago in Europe
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800,000 years ago in Indonesia
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in 1979
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Mary Leakey and her coworkers
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found dozens of footprints
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at a place called Leitoli
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in the country of Tanzania in East Africa
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and according to
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Mary Leakey these footprints
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were indistinguishable from
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anatomically modern human footprints
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that's what she said in her
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original report which was published in
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National Geographic
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now the problem was
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I should say first of all that
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other physical anthropologists
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and archaeologists have confirmed
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her original judgment
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paleontologist Tim White
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made no mistake about it
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they are like modern human footprints
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Russell Tuttle, Leitoli footprints
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are indistinguishable from modern human footprints
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now the problem is these footprints
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are found in layers of solidified volcanic ash
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that's about 1,000,000 years old
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now Mary Leakey of course
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did not believe that
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there were humans like us
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living in East Africa
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almost 4,000,000 years ago
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so how did she explain the footprints?
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well she said there must have been some type of hominid
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who had feet exactly like modern human feet
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so the footprints were made
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it's an interesting proposal, it's possible of course
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unfortunately at the present moment there is no physical
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evidence to support that idea
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we have the skeletons of the hominids that existed at that time
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there are varieties of Australopithecus
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and none of them have feet exactly like modern human feet
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generally they have toes that are somewhat longer
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than modern human toes
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and they have a first toe that can extend
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out to the side like a human thumb
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and their feet have other ape-like features
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so maybe some day in the future
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someone may discover some variety of hominid
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that had feet exactly like modern human feet
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but at the present moment the only creature known to science
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by physical evidence that has a foot exactly like
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a modern human being is a modern human being
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so what did Mary Leakey actually find?
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I believe she found evidence that humans like us
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were present in East Africa
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about 4 million years ago
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now somebody might say
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well footprints are one thing but wouldn't it be better
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if you had human skeletons of that age
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and such things do exist
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and the 19th...
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well this is an anatomically modern human skull
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found by the Italian geologist
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Giuseppe Ragazzoni
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at a place called Castanello in northern Italy
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it was part of an almost complete anatomically modern human skeleton
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and he found the bones of
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three other individuals in the same place
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a couple of years ago
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I went to Italy to try to relocate
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the site where he made these discoveries
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I went with an Italian friend
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to Castanello and in the neighborhood
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we met this elderly gentleman
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who knew something about the location of the site
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he had in his possession
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a very detailed 19th century geological report
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which gave critical information
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that did allow us to
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relocate the place where this discovery was made
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so Ragazzoni had found
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these human skeletons
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in an excavation that he made
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the skeletons were found in
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Pliocene deposits about 4 million years old
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and of course they were found in
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anatomically modern
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now when many scientists
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today hear about a discovery
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of an anatomically modern human skeleton
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in some possibly old layer of rock
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they say look, there's no mystery
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about this whatsoever, it's very easy to explain
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only a few thousand years ago
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somebody died up here at this level
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and his friends dug a grave and they put the body down here
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covered it over and that's why
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you think you found some anatomically modern human
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skeletal remains in some Pliocene formation in Italy
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now such things can happen
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they do happen, technically this is called
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intrusive burial
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but Giuseppe Ragazzoni himself
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the original discoverer
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was a professional geologist
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and he was very very well aware of this problem
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and actually if you go back to his original reports
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you'll see he considered it very carefully
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he said
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if it had been a burial
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then the overlying layers of rock
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would have been disturbed
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as we see here
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he said it very carefully when he was extracting the skeleton
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from the ground
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and he said all the overlying layers of rock
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were perfectly intact
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and actually he said that each layer had its own
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microstratification, in other words each of these layers
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was made of hundreds of other small paper thin layers
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of deposits and all of those were undisturbed
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so the indication is
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that these skeletons really did belong in the layers
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in which they were found, in this case about
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4 million years old which is roughly the same age as the
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anatomically modern human Laetoli footprints
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so I could give you many many more
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cases of discoveries of anatomically modern
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human bones and footprints and artifacts going back
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to 5 million years, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 but that would take too long
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so we're going to fast forward a little bit
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this is Carlos Ribeiro
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he was in the late part of the 19th century
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the chief government geologist of Portugal
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and he found
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hundreds of human artifacts in his country of Portugal
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he found them in lower Miocene deposits
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about 20 million years old
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and when he was living
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he displayed the artifacts
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and these cases here in the museum of geology
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in Lisbon with labels indicating
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a lower Miocene age of 20 million years
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but if you go to the museum today
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you're not going to see those artifacts there anymore
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they're kept locked in these cabinets down here
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a couple of years ago
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I was researching a paper that on Ribeiro's discoveries
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that I later presented at a meeting
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of the European Association of Archaeologists
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when I was doing the research I went to Lisbon
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and I went to the museum
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and I got permission from the director
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to open up these cabinets here
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and to
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to study and photograph some of these
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20-year-old artifacts from Portugal
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here are some close-ups of some of them
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it's an assistant of mine taking photographs in the museum
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and by studying some of the old
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maps and field notes and documents
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left by Ribeiro in the museum
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we were able to
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go out into this countryside of Portugal
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and relocate some of the original sites
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which was not an easy task
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but we did find some of them such as the quarry
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at Morganera where Ribeiro
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made some of his discoveries
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this is one of the artifacts he discovered there
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with his original label on it
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but it's interesting what happened
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as I said when he was alive he displayed the artifacts
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in the museum with labels indicating an age
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after he died his colleagues in the museum
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did something very interesting
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they left the artifacts on display
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but they wrote new labels for each of them
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they thought 20 million years ago that's impossible
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human beings couldn't have existed 20 million years ago
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so they thought well
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let's just write some new labels
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so this is the new label they wrote for
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the artifact I just showed you
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this line gives the age
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it says Paleolithico Superior, Upper Paleolithic
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according to archaeologists today
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the Upper Paleolithic period in Europe goes back
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about 20,000 years so they thought 20 million years
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that's impossible, 20,000 years sounds about right
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for artifacts like these so they wrote new labels
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for everything and then the next generation
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simply put the entire collection away
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I think I'm the first researcher to see these artifacts
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in about 50 years
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similar case from Belgium
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the Belgian geologist Routo
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he discovered hundreds of human artifacts
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in his country of Belgium
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by studying some of his old maps
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and field notes and records which are kept in
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the Museum of Natural Sciences in Brussels
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I was able to relocate some of the places
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where he made these discoveries
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for example this is the quarry at Boncelle
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which is near Liege in Belgium
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he discovered hundreds of human artifacts
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and deeply embedded, solidly embedded
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in these bottom layers of the quarry
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and according to modern geologists
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these layers belong to the Oligocene period
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and are about 30 million years old
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now a Vedic archaeologist would not have any problem
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thinking that human beings were existing
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30 million years ago on this planet
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as a matter of fact a Vedic archaeologist
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might be prepared to find evidence
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for a human presence going much further back
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than that all the way back to the beginning of the day of Brahma
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but for most archaeologists and anthropologists today
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this is completely impossible
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for a paper that I later presented
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at a major international conference
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on the history of archaeology
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I was able to get access to the collection
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and we were able to photograph
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and study some of the artifacts
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here are some photographs of them
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next to drawings that Routote made
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in his original reports early in the 20th century
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you know if you go to the museum today
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you won't see these artifacts
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they're not displayed to the public
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if you'd gone to the museum perhaps in the year 1910
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you would have seen these artifacts displayed
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in the main exhibition hall of the museum
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and you can see the symbols indicating an age
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of 30 million years
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but after Routote died his colleagues
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in the museum thought we can't have this
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everybody knows human beings couldn't have existed
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30 million years ago
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so they put the collection away
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and also they destroyed a lot of the original documentation
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that went along with this collection
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it's very difficult for you to see them
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but I have seen them myself
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here's a case I found really fascinating
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this is the case of the California gold mine discoveries
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in the middle of the 19th century
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gold was discovered in California
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and miners came from all around the world to get the gold
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they came to places like Table Mountain
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and the Sierra Nevada mountains
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and to get the gold the miners dug tunnels through solid rock
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and deep inside these tunnels
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the miners found human skeletons
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and human artifacts
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hundreds of them not just in one place but in many dozens of places
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in the gold mining region
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for example they found
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many of these stone mortars and pestles
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this particular set
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was found
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1500 feet from the mouth of the tunnel
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1500 feet deep in a tunnel
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drilled into solid rock
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that stone mortar and pestle
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were found by a miner but some of the discoveries
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were made by professional scientists such as
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Clarence King of the United States Geological Survey
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now what makes
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these discoveries so interesting
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is they were found in solid rock
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belonging to the early part of the geological period
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called the Eocene which means these objects
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would be about 50 million years old
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now as I said a Vedic archeologist
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wouldn't have any problem with that
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but for most archeologists today
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it would be completely out of the question
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50 million years ago is before the time of the first
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apes and monkeys according to their
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perhaps mistaken picture of the history of life on earth
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where do we get this date of 50 million years?
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a little technical information
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this is the bedrock here
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and these depressions
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are river channels that were carved into the rock
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by rivers that ran during the early Eocene
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that's been determined by the
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Eocene nature of the plant
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and animal fossils that are found
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in the old river gravels which are now
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compacted into solid rock
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that age has also been confirmed
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by some other methods
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over the old river deposits
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are deposits of volcanic ash
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huge deposits of volcanic ash
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that are now solidified to rock hard consistency
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these have been dated using
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the potassium argon method
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and the age has ranged from 20 to 33 million years
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covering the older river channel deposits
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and then on top
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you've got lava flows, basalt
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over 200 feet thick
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dated at 9 million years
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using the potassium argon method
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and these deposits used to extend
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across the whole area
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but then later new rivers formed and they carved out
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new channels leaving Table Mountain here
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and the human bones
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and artifacts were found
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in these old Eocene river deposits
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these discoveries were reported to the scientific world
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by Dr. J.D. Whitney who was the Chief Government
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Geologist of California
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his report was published by
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Harvard University in the year 1880
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but we don't hear very much about
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these discoveries today due to this
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process of knowledge filtration that I mentioned in the beginning
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and this is
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the scientist most responsible for the knowledge
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filtering in this particular case, this is Dr. William B. Holmes
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he was a physical anthropologist working at
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the Smithsonian Institution in Washington D.C.
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and he said, if Dr. Whitney
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had understood the theory of human evolution
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he wouldn't have announced those conclusions
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that he did in that report, in other words
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if the facts did not go along with the theory
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then the facts had to be put aside
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and the person who reported them had to be discredited
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and that's exactly what happened
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a couple of years ago I had
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my own personal experience of the knowledge
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filtering process in connection with these
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California goldmine discoveries
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I was a consultant for an NBC
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television special called the mysterious origins of man
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the host of the show was
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the famous American actor Charlton Heston
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and I appeared on that show as did my co-author
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Richard Thompson and the show
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was largely based on material from our book
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archaeology although the show did include
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the research of others as well
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when they were filming this program
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I told the producers
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they should go to the Phoebe Hearst Museum of Anthropology
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at the University of California at Berkeley
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because I knew that some of the 50 million year old
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artifacts from the California goldmines are still being kept
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in that museum today
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when the producers went there
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the museum officials told them
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well you're making a television program
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you probably have a very tight deadline
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we just wouldn't have time to have our workers
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search through our collections and bring these artifacts out for you
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so then the producer said
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well no we've got six months to do the program
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could you please have a look
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we've got a very tight budget we just would not be able to afford
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to pay our staff the overtime that would be
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necessary for them to do this work
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so then the producer said well money is not a problem either
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we'll pay the overtime salaries for the workers
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we'll pay for all the expenses and then finally the museum
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officials just said no go away you know you're not going to see these things
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so
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nevertheless we were able to use photographs
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of these artifacts that were taken by Whitney
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in the 19th century and the show didn't go on
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but when Darwinist scientists
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in America found out that NBC
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was going to show an anti-Darwin
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program at prime time on Sunday evening
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with lots of innocent children it would still be up
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they went
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ballistic you know they tried to stop
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NBC from showing the program they weren't successful
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as a matter of fact
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the program was so popular that NBC decided to show it again
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which totally infuriated
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these people so again they tried to stop
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NBC this time they started an internet
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letter writing campaign scientists from all over the world
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were invited to write letters
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to the chairman of the General Electric Company which owns
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the NBC television network asking him
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to instruct NBC not to show that program
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again because in their words
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it would have destroyed everything they were trying to accomplish in the
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education system where they have a complete monopoly
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so it really infuriated them that you know children
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in school would hear one thing and then go back and on television
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see something else that made them mad
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the pressure campaign
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didn't work NBC did show the program again
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as a matter of fact made publicity telling the
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American people watch the sign watch the program the other
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scientists don't want you to see
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so that made them
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even more angry I mean especially since they knew
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I had something to do with this whole thing
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so then they went to the American
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government they went to the federal
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communications commission which is the agency of the United States
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government that controls the television
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broadcasting and radio industries
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but this is one of their letters and this wasn't just some individual
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letter that was sent this was a letter that was widely
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circulated on scientific discussion groups on
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the internet and scientists all over the world were invited to
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send supporting letters to the FCC
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what they wanted the government to do was to investigate
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NBC
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and they wanted the government to force
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NBC to broadcast prime time
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apologies to the American people saying we're very
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sorry American people we really didn't know what we were doing
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we didn't mean to criticize
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Darwin in this theory and they also
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wanted the government
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to fine NBC millions of dollars so they would never
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do anything like this again I'm happy to say the government
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didn't do that but it was very interesting that
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these attempts were made and I'm not
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just making this up if you want to see all the documentation all
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the internet correspondence all the documents they're in my
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book Forbidden Archaeology's Impact
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now last year I went back to the museum
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I was researching a paper that I
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later presented at the World Archaeological Congress
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which is the world's largest
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international organization of archaeologists
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and actually I was co-organizer of a
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session on history of archaeology for that Congress
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and perhaps because of my connection with
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the World Archaeological Congress
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the museum officials decided well maybe it wouldn't be
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such a good idea to deny me access
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to these artifacts because
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as they suspected I probably would have made
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an intellectual freedom case out of it through the
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World Archaeological Congress
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because denying researchers access to
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archaeological materials and public
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institutions is not a very nice
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thing to do so they did
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grant me permission to study
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and photograph the artifacts as I said they're not displayed
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to the public they're kept in an off-campus storage facility
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about five miles from the
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actual museum itself but
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these are some of the 50 million year old
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artifacts from the California gold mines
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now
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again by making use
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of some of the old maps field notes and
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other documents left by Whitney in the
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museum we were able to go out and relocate
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some of the places where these discoveries
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were originally made this is how Table Mountain looks
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today
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here especially you can see that lava
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cap
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which covers the deposits
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so we did make a little
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expedition to go out there and we actually were
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able to relocate with some difficulty
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some of the old 19th century gold mining tunnels
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where these discoveries were originally made
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and we do have some plans to do some further research
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in those areas
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now how far back in time can we go with
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evidence like this
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in the year 1862 a scientific journal
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called the geologist published an interesting report
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a fairly complete anatomically modern
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human skeleton was found
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30 meters below the surface of the ground in McCoupen County
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Illinois and according to the report
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directly above the skeleton was a thick layer of slate
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rock that extended for dozens of meters in all directions
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that's important because one of the
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typical sorts of objections that's made in a case like
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this as well the skeleton slipped down through a
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fissure from some higher level
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the presence of this unbroken
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layer of thick slate rock which extends
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for dozens of meters in all directions
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tends to rule out an explanation like that
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according to geologists
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of the state of Illinois this layer here
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below the slate layer at this particular location
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is about 300 million
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years old
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now for a Vedic archaeologist that's not surprising
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according to the Vedic cosmological
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calendar that would have been during the time of the
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Chakshusha Manvantara period
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one of the time cycles that's known in Vedic history
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and we know from Vedic writings that humans were
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present on earth during that period of time
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so it's not too surprising for a Vedic archaeologist
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to find that there's physical evidence for it
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this interesting report
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from Scientific American tells of a beautiful metallic
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vase that was found five meters deep in solid rock
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near Dorchester near Boston
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according to the United States
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Geological Survey the rock in that place is
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600 million years old
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the oldest objects I found in my research come from
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South Africa they are round metallic
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objects they are found by miners
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in a place called Otosdalen in the western Transvaal region
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the objects are small they're one or two centimeters
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in diameter they're made of a naturally
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occurring type of iron called hematite
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which is considered a semi-precious stone
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for some purposes
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the most interesting feature is the parallel grooves
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that go around the center of each of these
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objects we showed these on the NBC
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television special but before NBC
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agreed to allow them to be filmed they said we had to
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submit them to an independent company of metallurgists
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for analysis the metallurgists
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concluded that they could see there was no way
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these objects could form naturally in the layers
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of the earth in other words they have to have been
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manufactured by someone with human-like intelligence
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but these objects are found solidly embedded
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in layers of rock two billion years old
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so I could keep you here from now until Christmas
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going through one case after another
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because there are hundreds of these in the scientific
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literature but I'm not going to do that I'm going to be
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a little merciful
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and I'm going to stop this little review right here
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but I just want you to remember
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one thing that I said in the beginning
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there are many scientists who will say that all the physical
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evidence supports this evolutionary picture of humans
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with humans like us coming into existence
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about a hundred thousand years ago
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I don't think it's true that all the physical
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evidence supports that particular idea
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actually when we look at
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all of the evidence that archaeologists have discovered
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and not just the small portion that we see
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in the current textbooks we see there's a continuous
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chain of discoveries of human skeletal remains
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human footprints and human artifacts going all the way
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from a hundred thousand years ago
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all the way back to about two billion years ago
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right back to the very beginning of the history of life on Earth
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now that's kind of interesting
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it's an interesting coincidence if you want to call it that
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because that's exactly what we should expect
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to find if what the ancient Sanskrit writings tell us about
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human origins is true. Thank you.
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If you'd like to learn a little more
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about my work, where I'll be speaking, things of that sort
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you can visit this website
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you can also leave mail for me there
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it comes to me, I definitely read it, I definitely answer it
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so if you don't have time to get a question to me
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this evening and you want to put a question
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then you can leave mail at that website
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does anyone have a question now?
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we can take a few questions
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and then afterwards I'll stick around a little while
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there are some copies of my books here
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if anybody wants one or wants to have it signed
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I can stick around for a little while
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and I think afterwards the club members may have some announcements too
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that they'd like to make, so stay around for those
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okay
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what would be the reason
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for the scientific community to hide all these proofs
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what would be the main reason
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so the question is
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why would scientists want to hide this evidence
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so the way this knowledge filtering process works
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is a little bit subtle
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it's not that they think, well here is some true evidence
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which if known would cause people to
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disbelieve in us and our theories
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and therefore we're going to hide it
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rather they think
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something must be wrong with this evidence
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I'll give you an example, when I spoke at the Russian Academy of Sciences
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one of the archaeologists there said
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she was highly offended, she was very offended
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how can you say that we're doing this
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we're honest people
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and then she said, my book is available in the Russian language
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I have your book, I haven't read it
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but I'm sure everything you say in it must be some kind of mistake
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or hoax or something