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could a strange substance found by a southwest Arkansas man be part of a

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government test? Well that's the question at the heart of a phenomenon called chem

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trails now getting widespread attention. Well they say the government is dumping

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chemicals on us to control or manipulate the weather. And they say the unusual

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looking jet trails in the sky are actually chemical-laden chem trails.

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chemicals to change or manipulate the weather leaving what you see there and

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they call that a chem trail. So when I look up there and I think are contrails

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an ominous plot. Our journey started in San Diego, California where thousands of

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Association for the Advancement of Science Conference. One of the topics was

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the artificial manipulation of the Earth's climate also called geo-engineering.

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geo-engineering campaigns throughout the world under the guise of preventing

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global warming. One widely accepted theory was to block the Sun by spraying

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something into the atmosphere. When they were asked about existing aerosol

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programs they stated clearly that no such programs have ever been implemented.

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and the main body of topics would be on geo-engineering I had to come. I had to

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be in on this. I had to hear what these top climate change scientists had to say.

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That's the other question about chemtrails and weather geo-engineering being employed right now without our knowledge.

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I don't have any personal insight into that other than to say that I've worked in government at pretty high levels in the White House and at state government.

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I'm personally skeptical of that. But obviously you never know what you don't know.

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Chemtrails. On the internet they are cited as proof of the government creating

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clouds to combat global warming. They claim the American government with the secret approval of the national government is covertly using jet aircraft to spray population centres with aluminium, with barium and with strotium so as to reduce people's humidity and reduce the global population.

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I'm always a little bit suspicious because the government doesn't seem that capable to do something on such a large scale.

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That is not rain. That is not snow. Believe it or not, military aircraft flying through the region is dropping chaff.

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Small bits of aluminium. Sometimes it's made of plastic or even telisized paper products. But it's used as an anti-radar issue and obviously they're up there practicing.

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Now they won't confirm that, but I was in the Marine Corps for many years and I'll tell you right now, that's what it is.

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What happens here, military jets, some come out of Key West Air Force Base and they move off into the atmosphere and they drop mylar strips. Some could be a little wider, some are small glass fibres that are coated in aluminium.

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And what the Air Force does is they take their military jets and they dump these out of the aircraft, they fall into the atmosphere and some take as much to it, day to fall down.

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This is inevitably military or something going on. The government, the Air Force. You see this kind of a pattern like this. You can rest assured there's something going on.

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They're actually little bitty magnetic and little bitty strips of, whether it's aluminium.

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It's a nuisance to you and I to determine what's real and what's not, but it looks like it is a life-saving operation.

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The apparent motive behind this conspiracy theory is one world government.

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Order, order, I cannot hear.

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Mr Speaker, I want to assure the House that both my ministry and my colleague the Minister of Health have received correspondence on this issue, that this conspiracy theory does not have an aorta of truth and that the trails observed from aircraft simply come from jet engines.

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And I think what an appalling example it is of the new Foreign Affairs spokesperson for the Labour Party that she's spreading conspiracy theories about the United States Government.

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I think the House has heard sufficient.

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It is called geoengineering, fighting global warming by putting a chemical dust in the atmosphere and reflecting harmful radiation back into space.

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We take geoengineering to mean deliberate, large scale intervention in the Earth's system.

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There are a variety of schemes that have been discussed for geoengineering.

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A classic example is injecting, reflecting particles into Earth orbit.

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Nevertheless, there might be some good reasons to think about Illumina.

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It turns out first of all there's been a lot of work on the environmental consequences of Illumina in the stratosphere.

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The big deal really is that Illumina has four times the volumetric rate of forcing for small particles as does Sulphur.

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And that means you have four times the surface area for the same rate of forcing.

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And this is a much bigger deal.

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You have roughly 16 times less the coagulation rate.

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So that's why we see things like in the use aircraft patent from 89.

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And that's why we're seeing in the surface water samples Illumina.

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And here's David Keith saying that Illumina has four times the reflective volume surface area.

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So they'd like us to think that we're talking about Sulphur.

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But here they slipped up and let it out that Illumina is four times better to achieving their ends.

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The little picture is from a nanofabrication study.

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Which shows you can make very high quality and do this in just a jet in a very simple way.

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There's a big literature that's already looked at that.

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So there's some ideas about that.

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So you go to an engineering firm and you want this done.

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Aerosol genome engineering looks like it is so cheap that the cost is basically not going to be an issue.

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Because right now it looks too easy.

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And that's a healthy outcome that will make it easier to do the management.

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It's an empirical question how people will actually react to knowledge about this.

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Another reaction is to say if these crazy scientists are so concerned about putting CO2 in the atmosphere they want to think about these things.

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And that might actually mean we should be more serious about the risks of CO2 in the atmosphere.

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And by the way it's not really a moral hazard it's more like free riding on our grandkids.

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And by the way it's not really a moral hazard it's more like free riding on our grandkids.

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Numerous air quality studies including from CARB California Air Quality Resource Board have named submicron sized particulates as being particularly harmful for human respiration.

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Through all the discussions today I have not heard any mention of this fallout and has this been studied and also the effects of a highly reactive metal like aluminum on toxifying soils and waters.

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The question is what would be the effects of these materials on human health if they came down into the stratosphere in particular small particles in aluminum.

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And while we haven't published it that was the very first thing we did was do the order of magnitude calculation in a pencil and paper.

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And for aluminum or other particles there are a lot of toxological things that need to get looked at seriously.

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But if you're just thinking about the sheer number of particles and the human health impact of small particles the answer is well we haven't published it.

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That was the first thing we looked at was some of the leading experts who do epidemiological research on human health impacts and it's not even close to being an issue.

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So to clarify, so 10 megatons of aluminum dumped into the atmosphere would have no human health impact.

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So let me be more careful here.

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The separate out the toxological, so the aluminum we've only begun to research and published nothing.

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The aluminum we've only begun to research and published nothing.

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Dane looked at him and he said so you're telling me that spraying 10 to 20 megatons of aluminum as you said would have no human health effects.

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He took a deep breath and he swallowed and he said let me be more careful here.

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We haven't done anything serious on alumina and so there could be something terrible that we'll find tomorrow we haven't looked at.

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And that for me that was the whole main point of what is going to be coming out to the public.

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It's the damaging effects of aluminum that are being found around the world in massive amounts.

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Here's David Keith confronted on this very issue and he looked you know at that point like they just let the cat out of the bag.

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We haven't done anything serious on alumina and so there could be something terrible that we'll find tomorrow we haven't looked at.

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They're proceeding because they have an agenda that's separate from trying to thwart this crisis of global warming.

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There's obviously several other objectives whether it's depopulation, control, weapons aspects, communications aspects, all kinds of things.

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Wild cards that we know nothing about.

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We don't really know and I'm not going to attempt to speculate on exactly what the agendas are but we can see clearly they're not.

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They're not, the agendas are not benefiting mankind.

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It's benefiting the agenda of the elite.

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And so I think the question is how do you draw the line between some activity that is allowed and doesn't need global governance and activities that do require global governance.

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Dr. John Holdren has agreed to serve as assistant to the president for science and technology and director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.

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I look forward to his wise counsel in the years ahead.

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My personal opinion is that we have to keep geoengineering on the table.

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We have to look at it very carefully because we might get desperate enough to want to use it.

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So what would we do if in year 2040 or 2060 there's a severe climate crisis, say widespread famines or Greenland sliding suddenly into the ocean.

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That the only plausible way in which we could start the earth cooling this century is to directly intervene in the climate system say by putting particles in the stratosphere.

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We do stuff in the stratosphere all the time of course and so it's not as though the stratosphere is absolutely pristine.

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But you don't want to have people going off and doing things that involve large radiative forcings or go on for extended periods or for that matter provide lots of reactive surfaces that could result in significant ozone destruction.

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You know maybe I'm putting a particle into the atmosphere because I'm trying to make money or maybe I'm putting a particle into the atmosphere because I'm engaging in scientific research and trying to understand cloud physics.

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Or maybe I'm putting this particle into the atmosphere because I'm trying to make it rain locally to see the cloud and get more snow on our ski slopes.

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And this obviously raises all kinds of questions. It's hugely risky. It will likely negatively impact some people but we might find ourselves in a situation where those risks seem worth taking.

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One of the things that really shocked me was in one of the breakouts they had the benefits of these programs and then the risks.

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Now the benefits, the one thing that was stated was the just cooling the planet.

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Some of the risks were ozone depletion, droughts in Africa and Asia.

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I got to tell you I came away from this experience after listening to these scientists for four days, four days of symposiums.

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Really concerned because it's clear now that they are justifying, rationalizing and looking to legitimize some really, really horrible impacts, further impacts on our environment.

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And they're basically formulating the sales strategy and the implementation and oversight strategy and the funding strategy.

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After San Diego I was shocked by the programs that had been proposed. I decided to write about it.

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That night when I finished I sent the article to an online publication with my email address attached.

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When I woke up the next morning my inbox was flooded with responses from around the world.

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Why? Because I had just broken the story on aluminum in geoengineering models, which I had no clue at the time that very few people knew about.

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Now this metal, aluminum, is being found in massive quantities way above normal levels all over in rain and soil and in snow.

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After that the calls started pouring in from people who were desperate for someone to investigate. That was the fuel that started the film.

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Before we started filming we had the opportunity to sit down with one of our favorite authors and documentarians, G. Edward Griffin, to find out what he knew about the subject.

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I'd like to talk for a minute about an issue that's getting more and more attention. That's the issue which scientifically is called stratospheric aerosol geoengineering, also called the chemtrail issue.

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I'm very aware of the chemtrail versus contrail controversy. As far as I'm concerned it's an open and shut case.

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I have been watching the development of jet travel from its very beginning. I used to live near the Los Angeles airport.

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Remember when the first jets came in and landed? Man, they made a big noise. We never heard a noise like that before.

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We used to go down and sit at the end of the runway and watch these jets come in and take off because it was a novel experience.

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I've been watching jets all my life and I know about jet contrails. I've watched them. They're vaporized moisture, ice crystals, and they get out there in the atmosphere and then they effervesce and evaporate and then disappear.

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You can see them. The plane moves along and the little white trail follows right behind it. Usually about 10 or 20 lengths of the plane or thereabouts and then it's gone.

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You can still see them that way by the way, once in a while. There goes a contrail.

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These other things we're talking about are not at all the same phenomena at all. These planes go by and they billow out this white smoke and it covers the sky from horizon to horizon. It doesn't dissipate at all.

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They crisscross each other and you see this thing cover the sky and turn it milky and then people start having trouble breathing and then you hear stories about the aluminum and barium deposits that they're picking up and the residue.

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You put it all together and I don't see how anybody who's got their eyes open and their mind open can come to any other conclusion but that somebody is spending a lot of money and effort to spray the planet.

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The question is why? I have my own theories but I hope that there will be some good investigative reporters go out there and get us the answer.

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I know that whenever it's finally discovered and it will be, the people who are doing it will undoubtedly say, oh well we did it for you folks. It's for the greater good of the greater number.

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It's for the society. It's probably to prevent global warming or maybe it's to inoculate people against some kind of a dreaded biological attack.

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We can't go around shooting everybody in the arm but we can spray them and save their lives. You see how good we are? We're doing it for the benefit of society.

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I know they're going to, whatever it is, they're going to say it was for your good, but mine.

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Think of the ability to steer hurricanes and the hurricane was going to slam into New Orleans.

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And let's say you could steer it so it would hit Mississippi instead.

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Where for a hundred that means I would be willing to more or less kill eighteen Mississippians to save eighteen hundred New Orleanians.

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You know, that, you know, are, and if you do that knowingly, are you murdering those hundred people? And there's all kinds of equity issues there.

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Now also we might be wrong about our steering and, and if we didn't do the research right, maybe our steering would intensify Katrina and even kill more people in New Orleans.

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And so this question of how do you develop the confidence to know that your intervention will reduce overall damage and then how do you deal with the understanding that you might be damaging some of the people in the world?

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Your intervention will reduce overall damage and then how do you deal with the understanding that you might be damaging some people who wouldn't have been damaged before while saving people overall?

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The spraying appears to be mostly in NATO countries. I've seen it here in the United States. I've seen it in England. I've seen it in Scotland. I've seen it in Canada.

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And I've had reports from people who live in France. There's a grouping, there's a political grouping here of some sort. It's international in scope. It's not just an American phenomenon.

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It's international and anybody that wants to investigate that I think has to take that fact into consideration. They're going to find a political grouping and a political motive here.

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But in my humble opinion, it's not in your good or mine at all. I don't know what it is, but we'll soon find out.

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I'm sure that if you follow the old advice, which is follow the money, you'll come to the answer sooner or later.

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Soon we realized that we all share the same need to get this information out there, to share with the public, to let people know what is being done. Ed felt so passionately about the issue he offered to help us.

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Well, the main thing now since it looks like the budget is going to be met is to get it done well. We don't come off the tree knowing any answers at all.

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We're not scientists. We're just asking questions, exactly.

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And we've got to be very skeptical about the answers. That's totally accurate, totally honest. Why can't people see this?

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They're not hearing it. They don't know that the facts are not being presented. We're very lucky, you know that?

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Look at this opportunity that's been dumped on us. Opportunity.

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It's going to be a battle. I know that. It's a challenge in a battle. Why are we here if it's not for that?

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We can't go to Get Hold of Morrow, so it's going to be you for the moment. I'll call on him again.

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Sounds good. I saw the sky crisscross with camp trails. I can't remember if it was in LA or if I was on the road, but I looked up one day and I thought, look at that. That's not the flight path, man.

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That was a grid, a regular grid over the city and I couldn't believe my eyes.

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Milky white clouds.

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And you know, it all seems very obvious. And now the evidence of what we have on the ground with the Illuminum, the barium strontium, and with what we see in the patents and what the geoengineers say are going to happen.

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I mean, for the everyday Joe, this is a slam dunk.

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This is a very delicate moment for the powers that be because they're taking a covered up operation like the tropospheric aerosol program or chemtrails, Project Icarus, whatever.

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It's had many names over the years and they're making it overt into a geoengineering scientific shield to deflect sunlight because global warming is out of hand.

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So in this very moment, the belly of the beast is right above us with no armor.

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Whether people believe in chemtrails or not, the geoengineering should be scary enough.

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And when people learn about geoengineering, chemtrails will then become apparent because they're the same.

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So you're talking about the

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global conspiracy here.

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Geoengineers propose doing this on a global level.

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Off to Redding, California.

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I guess this is the second step after the AA-AF meeting. We'll see what we find.

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Right here in Northern California at Dane Wiginton's house.

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He owns over 2000 acres overlooking Lake Shasta.

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He told me about some of the challenges that they're having up here.

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Let's go and talk to Dane. We'll see, you know, what's going on on his property.

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We'll see what he's going through and also what action he's taking based on the test results that he has.

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As you know, I have a background in the energy fields.

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I worked in the first solar plants in the continental U.S. in the early 80s.

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My home is on the cover of the world's largest renewable energy magazine.

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So this is my background.

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My goal has been to alert the public.

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There is a mountain of toxic material falling on us, period.

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Before, about five years ago, our

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skies were typically blue.

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And now you see it's covered with lines and haze and virtually nothing you see on the horizon.

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Nothing you see in the sky above us is a natural cloud.

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It is virtually all the remnants of these aircraft lines that you see fanning out, spreading into clouds, artificial clouds.

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But the sky is a very dirty look to it.

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There's not the white cloud blue sky that we had in the early 80s.

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We had only a few years ago.

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But it looks like there's some sort of massive industrial activity or forest fires burning over there.

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And we see that typically every night.

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You see even even down to ground level, the clarity drops off significantly.

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And we don't see that except for the days when we have these long lingering trails that spread and cover the whole sky.

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And on certain days you can see these trails actually dropping vertically like a veil.

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We assume the particulates are descending.

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And we have the test to prove that we are being inundated with levels of aluminum and particulates that are literally tens of thousands of times what would already be considered high.

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So we're not talking about exposure to a slight percentage higher of these toxic materials.

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We're talking about quantities, for example, off the site of Mount Shasta.

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If you can pan back, that's a landmark in Northern California, considered to be a pristine water source.

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Snow sample off the site of Mount Shasta tested 61,000 parts per billion.

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This is just ordinary snow water.

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And people are drinking this stuff when they're hiking on the mountain.

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And remember, government action is required at a thousand.

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This is 61 times over the government limit.

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And our hikers are drinking this poisonous water on Mount Shasta Mountain itself.

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Barium, 83.

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Strontium, 383.

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So this summer the people climbing are drinking poison.

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Basically. I certainly wouldn't want to drink 61,000 micrograms per liter of aluminum.

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And again, we've already seen in five years soil pHs in this area that have escalated 10 to 12 times.

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And we can prove that conclusively. This is not speculation.

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We can prove conclusively that these metals have been in the rain.

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We have duplicate samples.

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Bachelor of Science in Forestry, International School of Forestry at Missoula.

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Master's in Zoology, specialize in aquatics.

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And before that, several years with the USDA Soil Conservation Service as a soil conservationist.

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Also have run the botany programs, range and grazing programs.

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And I continue that today. Right now I do a lot of master gardener consultation work.

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When I started this garden back in about 2005 or so, the pH here was 5.5, 5.6.

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This is the old soil survey of the county. You can look at the page right here.

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This is my soil right here. It's Adits 125, 126 here at my house.

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And here, the soil reaction pH should be between 4.5 and 6.0.

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And over there in the pure mud, it's even a little darker. It's 6.8 right there.

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And what can this do to plant life and ecosystems?

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Well, you'll haul one of these things out and you start looking at the little things that are crawling around the soil.

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A lot of times they aren't there anymore.

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The little soil arthropods that you can barely see on a microscope, you can actually see movement with this.

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Little tiny tiny tiny macroscopic, look like little moving pieces of dust.

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Those start to go away. They're not gone entirely, but they start to go away.

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This is black oak acorns. This is pieces of cedar wood.

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You know, come on folks. This should be very acid and I'm getting 10 times higher than expected.

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There's something really wrong here.

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You can see all those reports, lots of them.

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You have over 20 reports here.

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Well, at least 20, I'd say it'd be closer to 30.

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All revealing dangerous amounts of aluminum and barium.

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You know, the science is there that something funny is happening.

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And the naysayers say, well, so what? Isn't neutral good?

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Well, no, neutral is not good.

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Neutral is not good. If your soil is supposed to be 5.6, it should stay 5.6 if you want the forest to be healthy.

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And if you want to grow a good garden, you have to keep your pH around 6.0, 6.5.

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I think that we just need to wake up and just look at what's happening because we can't just ignore it.

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Because it's going to get worse and worse if we just keep ignoring it and pushing it away like, oh, that's nothing.

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There was mason jars and they were brand new, sterilized, and that's what we catch the rain in.

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And then there was a HEPA filter that we tested the air with.

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Okay, so you caught rain and then you basically filtered air. What did you find?

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Aluminum and barium.

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Here's another test that's revealing 375,000 parts per million aluminum. Barium at 3090 and mistrauntium at 345.

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Yeah, that's from a lined pond.

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With EPDM fish safe pond liner, there is no chemicals, manufacturing materials at all in that pond liner that's available to the aquatic life.

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It's designed for that purpose.

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The well that feeds this pond has been tested and retested. Indeed, no detectable aluminum, zero.

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The only other place this pond can receive water is rainfall.

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We are located on a filtered forested hilltop, miles and miles and miles away from any industry highway and so forth.

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After several heavy spray days, there was a film that we received form on the surface of the water.

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And we tested that crust and it was aluminum and barium.

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But after a year and a half's accumulation, had 375,000 parts per billion of aluminum in it, it's literally toxic.

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We can say conclusively that what we see in the sky matches expressly what's outlined in numerous patents.

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And the materials on the ground match those patents.

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This material was not there five years ago.

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It is a recent phenomena in the quantities it's in.

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It has escalated in some cases 50,000% in five years in the case of aluminum.

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From our original baseline reading of seven parts per billion, which was already high, it has escalated up to 50,000% in five years.

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And we've seen profound changes in that time.

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Dr. Leonard Time, PhD in chemistry, I cross checked with him.

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And he says the oxides of aluminum, barium and strontium will drive your pH into the coast from an acid soil like this up into the neutral.

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There's no question about it.

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And that's exactly what you see happening.

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I have a doctorate in inorganic chemistry from Oregon State University.

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In which I was working with different metals in oxidation states.

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And then did a post-doctorate work at Brandeis where I was working stabilizing off oxidation states at different metals.

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The goal is to sort of figure out how everything fits in the dynamic equilibrium of life.

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I was working with Francis up in Mount Shasta.

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And he showed me some rainwater analyses that had to do with levels of aluminum, strontium and barium in the atmosphere.

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So I feel the major toxin in these chemtrails is the aluminum.

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And from the levels we were looking in at Mount Shasta, this is totally, totally unacceptable.

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When you get to metals and biological systems, you're no longer talking about the bulk aluminum that people think about when they're using drinking from soda pop cans and that.

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So once it gets to the aluminum oxide stage, it just forms a plaque within your arteries and shuts down life.

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When you take elements that normally aren't out in the environment and you start putting them in the environment, it raises some serious red flags.

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Aluminum is a very specific nasty and biological systems.

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It takes that site and it never lets go and it shuts down the site and that's it.

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And so as you accumulate aluminum over time, it causes major neurological damage because it ends up as aluminum oxide that's essentially stuck in place and can't be flushed out by normal systems.

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At the core of everyone's condition is always some level of toxins.

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And aluminum is known to have cancer causing effects.

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The half life is decades.

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I think that we should be working on taking more of these toxins out of our environment instead of adding more toxins in.

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It's very concerning that if we add more toxins to our environment that will be increasing the rates and risks of cancers.

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Even one patient is not worth it.

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It's so sad that they would consider putting aluminum in our environment to affect something when they could be causing so much more damage.

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Wherever the material is coming from, it is there.

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The amount of metal falling on us cannot be disputed. Absolutely this is not speculation.

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The amount of metal in the last four years as I said have increased to a degree of thousands of times and it's not a matter of speculation.

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California Air Quality Resources Board has studied aerosols from China.

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These metals are not amongst them.

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Mike, the reason I've chosen to focus so primarily on this issue is I feel all other issues are secondary.

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What could be a greater priority than not being able to walk out your door and take in a breath of air without sucking up heavy metals?

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If our land base is being poisoned, if our waters are being toxified, what will we have left to work with?

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Whatever we choose to focus our time and energy on, whatever our political beliefs, that this is a common ground for all of us.

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We must have air that we can breathe that's not full of toxic chemicals and metals.

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We must have water that's not completely laden with whatever is being emitted from the air.

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If people stopped to consider that the atmosphere is as thin as a layer of paint on a basketball, it is an extremely thin layer that allows life to exist on this planet.

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To simply treat it as a physics lab and experiment with it until it is broken beyond repair is folly of unbelievable proportion.

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If people understood that this sort of experiment is a waste of time, then they would have to start over.

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If people understood that this sort of experiment is not only going on, but has been going on for a very long time, going back 50 years, there have been countless climate manipulation weather modification programs that the vast majority of the public is completely unaware of.

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And if they think that this is not true, that somehow they would have known if it was occurring, I would ask them to look at things like Agent Orange and the things that governments do because they can.

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Because there's no one to stop them. Because they have these huge military machines that want to control everything.

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And in fact, the government's own document, perhaps you may have seen, it's available to any online, is called Owning the Weather.

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An express goal of our government and not just our government.

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You told the Associated Press that the American government has created weather tampering techniques so that the New World Order will be able to starve millions of Americans and control the rest.

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There is weather control techniques, number one, the entire patents on the equipment, number two, Senator Claiborne Pell's complete statement and story of his own that not only does it exist, but that we even utilize it as far back as the Vietnam War.

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Well Murph, let's see what we can do. You got the scientists behind you. The scientists are with you. So at least this scientist is with you.

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I may not have a million dollar budget, but I've got enough to show that something's going to be wrong.

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So Arizona will be this Monday the 21st, Senator Johnson up in Sholo. So we're going to be in the car a long time.

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Well it is such a pleasure.

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This is such a nice place back here, I'm telling you Michael. But you know what? We love it. It's so private and it's so quiet and peaceful. Please come in.

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My name is Karen Johnson. I served in the Arizona State Legislature for 12 years. I was in the House for eight of those years and in the Senate for four of those years.

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When you see a plane fly overhead, there's a trail that leaves the end of that plane and it goes from one horizon all the way to the other as the plane flies across.

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And it begins to filter out and cover more and more of the sky in kind of ripples. It widens out and fills the whole sky.

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I mean how could anybody think that that was the case? And then to live and to be underneath that and know that whatever is in that is falling down upon you and upon your animals and upon the earth.

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And I mean it's frightening to me. And if people don't start really waking up and facing the fact that we've got people that are doing terrible things to us and we had better wake up and fight back now.

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I mean I'm the mom of 11 kids. I've got 35 grandkids. I mean I've got a stake in this. I care about what is going to be left for my children.

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I care about it and I'm extremely worried about what is going to be left to them.

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Aluminum is toxic and we know that it's accumulative and we know that we're getting more. We're absorbing it in the air. We're drinking it in our water. So we are accumulating more.

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So the thought of more aluminum being dispersed in our environment in the way that you mentioned is very frightening to us and very disturbing to us.

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Those of us who have done any research on this are really quite concerned that we are ill informed about this issue and mostly that it's being done. Aluminum is toxic. We know that it is.

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We can debate as to the amount of toxicity that is going to be disturbing the body. But as far as really accepting the fact that it's accumulative, it's synergistic, it's going to be a very dangerous thing.

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If we're going to be talking about the amount of toxicity that is going to be disturbing the body, but as far as really accepting the fact that it's accumulative, it's synergistic, then we have to conclude that it's not a good idea to put it in our atmosphere, especially when we know we're getting increased amounts.

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And especially since we know that the scientific communities around the world are pointing a finger at the heavy metal toxicities, at the toxicities that we're absorbing in the day to day food that we eat and the air that we breathe.

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The concern is off the charts about why is this happening? Why is this being allowed to be sprayed continually all over the United States, all over the world? Who is paying for this?

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I mean, the incidence of Alzheimer's has just skyrocketed, which evidently has to do with an accumulation of aluminum in the brain cells.

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I mean, I think almost every family has been touched by a member, as they get older, having Alzheimer's. And it's a horrible, it's a horrible disease.

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And to say that, well, this just came because people drank soda pop out of aluminum cans, you know, when my father passed away with Alzheimer's and he didn't ever drink soda pop, you know, that explanation doesn't ring true with me.

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And so I'm wondering how much did this chemtrail spraying back in the Illinois area affect him?

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Aluminum in fine metal is an accelerant.

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Our friend who's a firefighter up in Pine, Arizona for 20 or 30 years, says that the wildfires now that they're fighting are way beyond anything they've seen before in intensity.

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And when you look at the air samples and you see the fine particles of aluminum, which is very flammable, and magnesium settling on the trees,

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this is causing unprecedented savage wildfire.

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But if you look at this, you can see these are parts per million.

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They sent this to me and I just found this to be extremely interesting because we should have like two parts per million of aluminum in our air.

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And this is saying that there's 39,000 parts of aluminum.

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That's astronomical. Barium is high.

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I mean, these are way off the charts of what people should be breathing or what's coming down on them.

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And, you know, if people wonder why their health is deteriorating, why they're having to go to emergency rooms, why they can't breathe, you know, why they're getting Alzheimer's, this has been planned.

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We have elites, I don't know what you want to call them, one-worlders, Illuminati, I don't know, whatever you want to call them.

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But these people that don't care about the average person.

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00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,960
They only care about themselves, their greed, their power.

375
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:19,960
And if they eliminate, you know, two-thirds, three-fourths of us from the planet, so much for the better for them because then they don't have so many people to have to hurt around and worry about.

376
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,960
So this is a lot what this is about.

377
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960
And this is very, very alarming and scary.

378
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,960
I mean, where is this stuff coming from?

379
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,960
And why? Why is this kind of stuff being put out there?

380
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,960
You know, I've heard different explanations about, oh, we need to cool the planet, all this and that.

381
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:50,960
But if people are up there trying to cool the planet, why do they need all this kind of stuff in it?

382
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,960
The explanations just never have really rang very true.

383
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,960
And as I'm setting up the equipment, she looked at me, she said, all these trees here are dying.

384
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,960
And I said, what? She says, all these trees in here are dying.

385
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,960
So I thought, well, I'm going to test for aluminum because that's one of the key things in the programs that we're talking about.

386
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,960
And titanium. And I took some of this bark sample and tested it and it came back positive with aluminum and titanium.

387
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,960
Then I started traveling around California and noticing the same thing in Lake Tahoe.

388
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,960
There was a lot of the same type of bark all through Sacramento area and Davis, just about everywhere I went.

389
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,960
I was noticing the silver white bark.

390
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,960
What I think is happening is these chemicals are getting down and destroying the roots.

391
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,960
And then as they come up, they're going out into the bark.

392
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Those two right there are the ones that are just it just hurts so bad to see these two because look how old and big they are.

393
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,960
We probably lost 40 trees right here on our 10 acres.

394
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Every week, every other weekend, we'd see another tree that was beginning to die.

395
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:01,960
And I mean, it's just so sad.

396
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:09,960
We'd just cry and to think that that might have something to do with it along with their other explanations would really, really frost me.

397
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Every time you lose a tree, you know, it's it's not good.

398
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,960
It's just sad. And there's another one over here in this little group of trees here.

399
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Don't you feel better when you stand up and fight than if you crawl down in a little hole and go to sleep?

400
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,960
You know, I mean, my gosh, people, there are your families are out there.

401
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,960
Children are out there. Your grandchildren.

402
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,960
I mean, you've got to do something to help.

403
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,960
My greatest hope is to get people to question and hey, if they don't wake up while we're there, I'm hoping to plant some seeds.

404
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,960
We're going to the most beautiful place on the planet, Hawaii, to see what's going on, collect some data.

405
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Thank you for having fun with us.

406
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Hope you enjoyed the trip. Have a great vacation and welcome home if you're lucky enough to live here.

407
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,960
Thank you.

408
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:55,960
The whole valley is off the grid, so it's either solar wind or generators.

409
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Look at this man.

410
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,960
The mind can't even conceive of a drink like this.

411
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:09,960
Right. Even even coming here and one would never think, you know, in paradise that that it's getting destroyed.

412
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,960
And they're doing it island style. They do it off the island, right?

413
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,960
They do it off the island so they don't, you know, you don't see the chemtrail airplane.

414
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:23,960
The theory is that they're spraying offshore and it's coming in on that and it's coming in.

415
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,960
Now these are coming from the West. They're also spraying on both sides today.

416
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,960
A lot of this stuff is actually chemtrails coming this direction.

417
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:40,960
There is material that's blocking. We should be able to see to the horizon, you know, where the earth curves because we're high enough and we have the ocean, right?

418
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,960
So we should be able to see the big island. It's only 30 miles away.

419
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,960
And you can see it's not a blue sky behind it. That's the key.

420
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:55,960
It's all, you know, has that kind of weird looking blue, like silver blue, I call it.

421
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,960
And this is a nice day. You know, there's no more blue sky.

422
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:04,960
The night that we're going to look at the stars tonight is like you'll see it. You can count them.

423
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,960
There's so few stars at night now. There should be hundreds of thousands of stars and I can count the stars.

424
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,960
There's like one here and one here and one planet here.

425
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,960
It's like you might see some nights you'll see a hundred. Sometimes you'll see ten.

426
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,960
This is what concerns me. This kind of stuff right here. It's just soft.

427
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,960
This just comes right off this bark. That's not natural.

428
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,960
I've seen hundreds of thousands of coconuts and I've never seen it falling apart like that.

429
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,960
Look at this, you guys. I've never seen anything like this.

430
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,960
I used to trim trees all the time on Big Island. I've never seen anything like that. That's what I'm concerned.

431
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,960
Not an easy task that you have here on the island.

432
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,960
I could see the skepticism because it is so far beyond anybody's reality.

433
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,960
It's amazing. It's just amazing to not, to try to look through somebody else's eyes.

434
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,960
Like my eyes, I can see this so it's like night and day and other people just,

435
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,960
it's just the illusion is just so deep.

436
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:20,960
What do you think would happen if everybody awakened to what was going on and what the plans were of geoengineers?

437
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:29,960
I think they'd have a revolution in Hawaii. If people really understood what was going on.

438
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:39,960
What's your concern for, I know that you love the land here. What's your concern about the chemicals?

439
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Well that we won't be able to live here and grow our own food and that our health is going to be compromised.

440
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,960
You think it already has been?

441
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,960
Yes.

442
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,960
The thing is that they're doing it every day here. Every day. So it's hammering, hammering, hammering, hammering.

443
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:03,960
Micro doses every day. And then of course it's getting in the environment and of course it's weakening the plants.

444
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,960
And it takes a couple years for this to actually weaken the plants.

445
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,960
So we need, we're asking for GMO Taro. We're asking for GMO Papaya because we can't grow our natural seeds.

446
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:22,960
We can't be sustainable. We can't truly, you know, be here as God created us to be.

447
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,960
So my friend convinced me to do a hair analysis on my daughter.

448
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:33,960
So we went ahead and cut close to her scalp and got some really recently grown hair and sent it in.

449
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,960
I was just sure that my daughter's hair was going to be so clean with the lifestyle that we live.

450
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,960
And lo and behold it came back and her levels were really high in aluminum. This is the chart here.

451
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:53,960
This is the reference range and this is where my daughter is. 23.1 aluminum.

452
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:05,960
The skies are covered with a white mist and I look up at night and I don't see the deep dense stars that I used to and I can't help but think this obviously has something to do with my daughter's house.

453
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,960
I don't know where else these heavy metals are coming from.

454
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,960
Yeah, I mean, look, look how old she is. She's been isolated here.

455
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Here and she's here. Anybody looking at the situation would be like, this is paradise.

456
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,960
This child should be like super organic foam. And here you are getting all this heavy metal stuff.

457
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,960
She has the highest level aluminum on the chart.

458
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Never had a vaccine either.

459
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Folks, these people are playing God. They are playing God.

460
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,960
They're manipulating the weather and they're spraying stuff into the sky.

461
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,960
They are trying to geoengineer everything, including your plants and trees and your ocean.

462
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Well, tonight we're just hoping that instead of not looking at it, you start looking into it because I really believe from the bottom of my heart that we are in a real crisis.

463
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,960
I really do.

464
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:08,960
They are proposing dumping 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum into the upper atmosphere.

465
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:15,960
What does aluminum do? It changes the pH of soils, which is toxic to plant life.

466
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:23,960
Also, it's very toxic to human health. Are they doing it? Well, let me tell you about my experience and what we found.

467
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:30,960
We have much evidence that not only suggests, but I believe prove that they are happening.

468
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Michael, what's going on?

469
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,960
And as I promised, we're joined right now by very special guest, Michael J. Murphy, currently on location in Hawaii.

470
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,960
He's working on a documentary film called What in the World Are They Spraying?

471
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Michael, welcome to the program. Great to speak with you today.

472
00:51:49,960 --> 00:52:04,960
I had a friend who recently, he's always looking at things from a different perspective.

473
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:14,960
He's a bit of a conspiracy theorist, you know, and he says that whenever the President comes to LA, there's no spraying that week.

474
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,960
Do we have a better place for an interview? I mean, look.

475
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,960
This is being done over our farms and over our things.

476
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:30,960
So basically, they want to eliminate our ability to eat organic food, clean food, have clean water.

477
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:37,960
So in some ways, it sounds to me like, and again, it's just a projection, but it sounds to me like this is control.

478
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,960
How do we control the masses? How can aluminum be good for you in any...

479
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:47,960
What chemical do you mention? It's barium. Barium aluminum. Obviously, those are toxic to everything.

480
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,960
To human health. To human health, to farms, to animals, to everything.

481
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,960
Sixty-one thousand parts per billion. And there should be a government alert at one thousand?

482
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,960
At one thousand, people are drinking this, people that climb the mountain, they're drinking that snow. It's poison.

483
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,960
Oh my God. That's so disgusting.

484
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,960
So that's sixty thousand times above regulation. Exactly.

485
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,960
Sixty thousand times above regulation. And I've talked to friends and they're like, well, that's just ice.

486
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,960
That's just condensation. And I'm like, you can talk to a second grader. Ice doesn't float in the sky and spread out that way, you know.

487
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,960
You're not an expert, but you're a concerned citizen who said, wait a second.

488
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
He's actually doing the research. Yeah, you're doing the research.

489
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,960
And that's what we need to do as Americans and say, you know what, I want to know what's going on.

490
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,960
I want to know what the FDA is doing to my food. I want to know what the government's doing with my air, my water, and the soil.

491
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:46,960
And, you know, it's just great what you're doing. And I just, my kudos to you for bringing light to this subject.

492
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:54,960
Put all of the theories aside, just what geoengineers are proposing and what's being found is scary enough.

493
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,960
So we can just address that.

494
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:03,960
And I encourage, you know, I encourage more people to just step up and ask questions and do what he's doing.

495
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,960
So thank you, Michael, very, very much.

496
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,960
Aerosol spraying, aluminum effects everywhere.

497
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,960
And we have a beautiful tropical climate, which I believe might be in jeopardy.

498
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,960
So we wanted to not only comment and bring the message of what people were finding around the world,

499
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,960
but encourage people to test for the aluminum strontium barium.

500
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,960
I think it was an effective trip. I saw a lot of people here in Hawaii, in Maui,

501
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,960
awake and not only curious, but willing to look into this deeper. And that's my only hope.

502
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,960
This is one of the boldest moves, I think, from Ed Griffin yet.

503
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,960
This is the taboo topic that nobody's supposed to talk about, and that is aerosol spraying.

504
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Now we've got tons of documented proof of errant aerosol spraying.

505
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:59,960
It just blows my mind that the whole essence of humanity has always been to look up into the sky and ask why.

506
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Though there are no limitations, there is endless space, an endless universe.

507
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Now in the 21st century, we're not allowed to do that.

508
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Anyone who looks up and sees the giant grids and the Xs in the sky that weren't part of our existence until just a decade or two ago

509
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:24,960
is somehow called a kook. And the people that are the best and biggest proponents for the revolution and for liberty,

510
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960
they don't want you to talk about it because you could discredit them.

511
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:35,960
It seems to be an industry that's being built up to milk the taxpayers by undergoing some kind of a giant,

512
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,960
global spraying program to make all kinds of money on the project.

513
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,960
And they don't seem to care really what effect it has.

514
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,960
They're not trying to experiment to see if humans can survive it or anything like that.

515
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,960
They just want to get this stuff up.

516
00:55:49,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Then we discover as we're going further down the line that there are companies generating genetically modified organisms, seeds,

517
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:06,960
modified seed crops that are being engineered to resist the aluminum in the soil.

518
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,960
And a lot of crops won't grow in that.

519
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:17,960
So now, after they've messed up the soil, all the farmers are going to have to go back and buy seeds that have been genetically engineered

520
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,960
to resist the aluminum that have been put into the soil.

521
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:29,960
And all of a sudden, mankind is completely dependent upon these companies like Monsanto and other giant agricultural firms.

522
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,960
You can't even grow natural seeds anymore.

523
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,960
And we're looking at that. It's a shocking thing. I hope we don't find that that's true.

524
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,960
But all the arrows right now are pointing in that direction.

525
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,960
We get into cost-benefit analysis here because there's also HARP could be involved in this.

526
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:52,960
Geoengineering, as you guys mentioned, which is documented heavily in Dennis Kucinich's bill that is the Space Preservation Act,

527
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,960
which, by the way, I don't think got through Congress.

528
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:03,960
And then KBailout, as we call her here, KBaili Hutchinson, also put together some legislation in order to qualify geoengineering,

529
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,960
which again is supposed to save us all from global warming.

530
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,960
But it is cost-benefit analysis because they can benefit on so many different levels, Ed.

531
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,960
That's how they do everything, isn't it?

532
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,960
That's right. And you know, there's an old adage, if you just follow the dollar, follow the buck,

533
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,960
you usually get to the source of the problem.

534
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:30,960
And it looks to me like there's a tremendously profitable industry being built up right now around this concept of geoengineering

535
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:39,960
or weather modification or reducing global warming and all of these other things that can be sold fairly easily to an unsuspecting public.

536
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,960
They all say, oh, well, that's good. We don't want global warming, you know.

537
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,960
And so they put up with this and they don't question, they don't criticize.

538
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,960
But behind the scenes, you see a whole industry being built up, which is, as they say, tremendously profitable.

539
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,960
And the money for all of that is coming from the taxpayers.

540
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,960
And it's a scam is basically what it is.

541
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,960
We're just focusing on the one area that is real easy to prove.

542
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,960
There's no speculation in the area that we're going into.

543
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:15,960
They definitely are doing this geoengineering. They definitely are talking about it.

544
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,960
They're working up formulas for it. They're putting together strategies for it.

545
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,960
They've got funding for it. Everything is in place.

546
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,960
We don't even have to go into those other areas to make the case.

547
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,960
OK, let them believe that.

548
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,960
But at least they must understand that there's no question that they're talking about it and planning to do it.

549
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,960
And so shouldn't they be equally alarmed about what they're going to do?

550
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:46,960
It can be shown that barium and aluminum and some of these other toxic metals are very destructive to the planet and destructive to human health.

551
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Isn't that enough? You know, how many issues do we need to crank into this?

552
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:58,960
And so, you know, if you're going to kill the planet and kill the population, do we need any other reason to be alarmed?

553
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,960
What in the world are they spraying? Thank God people are asking this question.

554
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,960
That's all we want. We just want to be able to ask these questions.

555
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:13,960
Our good friend G. Edward Griffin all these years, Mike Murphy and Paul Wittenberg are doing this great effort with your help.

556
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,960
This is a community effort to get people real information.

557
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,960
What in the world are they spraying?

558
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Any final quick comments before we're out of time?

559
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,960
And my only final thought is that we ask the question, what in the world are they spraying?

560
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,960
And we now know what it is. And folks, you're not going to like it.

561
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,960
I'm Peter Vreke. I'm from Belgium. I'm 54 years old.

562
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,960
I can't believe it myself. I'm a very happy and grateful person.

563
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,960
We are doing the job the police or the justice department or the environmental department should have been doing.

564
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:07,960
And it's really essential that it's going to be a grassroots revolution.

565
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,960
I think so.

566
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,960
Because we are not fighting against but for.

567
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Yes, yes, we are fighting for.

568
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:20,960
I was in the council for about 25 years and also a period as the mayor.

569
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,960
So from that moment on, 10 years ago, everything started to change.

570
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,960
I start to get a picture of what is really going on.

571
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:42,960
And it became crystal clear to me that we, humankind, have been manipulated and dominated and exploited for centuries.

572
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,960
So and this country of phenomena made me angry because I was so helpless.

573
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:58,960
You can decide what food you're going to eat, what you're going to smoke, what you're going to drink, what kind of life you're going to lead.

574
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,960
But not with this phenomenon. Then you are just a victim.

575
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:09,960
It's only a game. And they have to be good guys and they have to be bad guys.

576
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:20,960
And luckily, we are in the position to be able to play the role of the good guy who has the chance and the opportunity to overcome.

577
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:30,960
The three days that we shared with them, my heart just dropped because it was such a beautiful way to live and such a peaceful way to live.

578
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,960
I left thinking what's this going to be like in 10 years?

579
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,960
Is everything going to be killed off on the property?

580
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,960
And if it is, how are they going to get their food source?

581
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:47,960
Are they going to have to take a class and get certified by company XYZ?

582
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,960
And what are the requirements for that?

583
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,960
And that really is the end of freedom.

584
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,960
I'm concerned about that. I definitely, I really am.

585
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:00,960
I learned to say everything is now as it has to be now.

586
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,960
And everything is going to be okay.

587
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,960
It's going to be alright.

588
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,960
It's going to be okay.

589
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:05,960
Yes.

590
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:14,960
I have this deep feeling that in the end we will prevail because we have the right on our side.

591
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,960
The cosmos is helping us.

592
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:29,960
And I have this strong feeling that we are being supported by entities and by forces we can't even imagine.

593
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:44,960
Here for the first time we have this scientific proof that we are being spread.

594
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:51,960
We are being spread and it's incredible and it's hard to believe, but we are being spread.

595
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,960
I think at this moment to stop is not an option.

596
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,960
Once you know it and once you have a tool like this and an opportunity like this,

597
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:10,960
that the issue of chemtrails or persistent jet contrails or whatever name you use for it,

598
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:20,960
that this phenomenon is recognized as being real, publicly debated on.

599
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:27,960
In the context of geoengineering I think it's high noon to bring this to the public.

600
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,960
This is what the sky is supposed to look like.

601
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,960
These are old paintings.

602
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,960
We forgot this, I'm afraid.

603
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,960
In the years that I have been a medical research journalist I have looked at many, many things.

604
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:50,960
I found the same three issues in whatever I'm looking at.

605
01:03:50,960 --> 01:04:02,960
And that is that we are being dumbed down, we are being made sicker, and we are being made infertile.

606
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,960
Citizens gathered from around the world in Belgium for the first International Chemtrail Symposium.

607
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:18,960
The event attracted leading professionals, politicians and activists who discussed the health, environmental and social implications of these programs.

608
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:27,960
Today it's only going to be about facts, documents, figures, patents, licenses, everything that brings us good truth.

609
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:36,960
We have no other weapon against these past conflicts than exposing and bringing the dark works in the light of the truth.

610
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:47,960
We have the hope that by our efforts more and more people will become aware of the fact that we are deceived by our leaders.

611
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:59,960
So today we, as a family, join forces with the people who publicly made known to the world that chemtrails are not a conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy fact.

612
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:06,960
From the Technische Universiteit Delft in the Netherlands, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Koen Vermeeren.

613
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:17,960
Well, I'm Koen Vermeeren, I'm a university professor of Delft University of Technology.

614
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,960
Usually people are with their heads to the ground in their own two-dimensional space and they don't look up.

615
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:29,960
But if you do, you see more and more spaces like this. And it worried me too. I have no explanations to our students about these phenomena.

616
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,960
And then I studied it myself and I found out that I couldn't give them the answers they wanted.

617
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:43,960
Because I think that the phenomenon is not natural. It's not natural what is happening. And the explanations that are given to us are not enough for me.

618
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:51,960
If you look at them from a scientific point of view, the first thing a scientist does is trying to explain something.

619
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:57,960
Because I'm smart and my students are not as smart yet, so I have to give them answers to questions.

620
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,960
But if you ask most scientists honestly, they cannot answer all your questions.

621
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:11,960
If people are using climate control over our heads, I want to know about it. I want to know the consequences, I want to know the health impact, I want to know everything.

622
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:22,960
I need, as a teacher in my university, to give answers to my students. And they have good questions. And I don't have the answers. And I want to know. And we should discuss this.

623
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:31,960
Ladies and gentlemen, from here, you and the auditorium, and for all over the world, Michael Murphy.

624
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:51,960
Applause

625
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,960
Well, thank you very much. It's definitely an honor to be here in Belgium.

626
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,960
The people who are in power control everything. They control the markets, they control us.

627
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Now they're even controlling the weather. And they can use that for warfare applications.

628
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:12,960
The one thing that they cannot control is what God had originally made. And that's natural organic seeds.

629
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:19,960
This is called the Hegelian dialect. It's called problem reaction solution.

630
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,960
The problem here is massive amounts of aluminum, things starting to die.

631
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:35,960
The solution is company X that says, hey, man, you're not getting yields on your crop. Everything's dying. But I got the solution. I got a seed that will grow in this environment.

632
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,960
The only problem is now you have to start buying from me.

633
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:50,960
We're a little concerned that maybe part of this agenda could be to kill off anything that's natural and organic and re-engineer it with aluminum resistant GMO seeds.

634
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:57,960
Many may know we just got back from a week of filming in Hawaii. And it was an incredible trip.

635
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:04,960
A big concern for the people there is they're beginning to see softening of the coconut trees.

636
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:12,960
But their concern is that these programs may again be part of a broader agenda to destroy anything that's natural and organic.

637
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:20,960
So that the corporate redesigned GMO foods might be the only thing, only source of food for people.

638
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:28,960
I didn't anticipate so many people, young and old, who are interested in this phenomenon and are concerned about it.

639
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:41,960
And I especially liked the address that the young girl gave today. Only 17 and already making an address to the audience. That is incredible.

640
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,960
My name is Sophia Xanelis. I am 17 years old.

641
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:52,960
It is quite scary to know that the air we breathe is not what it's supposed to be.

642
01:08:52,960 --> 01:09:03,960
That the food we eat and the water we drink contain traces of those substances which are sprayed out over all of us as though we were being poisoned like insects.

643
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,960
The feeling that this is causing me are feelings of deep anger and rage.

644
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,960
I don't want to be poisoned. I don't want to be infected with cancer.

645
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:20,960
And I'm just so angry that this global poisoning can be going on on such a massive scale.

646
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,960
And not enough is being done to stop this crime.

647
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:30,960
A clear answer to one question. Are we being sprayed? Have we been sprayed?

648
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,960
And is it their intention to spray again and again?

649
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:43,960
What are we going to do about this? How are we going to deal with it?

650
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,960
How are we going to stop it? I know the answer.

651
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:55,960
There is only one person who can stop it. And you know it. You are.

652
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:01,960
You are the person, the one you have been waiting for.

653
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:08,960
We are magnificent, beautiful, godlike, divine human beings.

654
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:19,960
Ladies and gentlemen, sisters and brothers, in this auditorium and in the whole world, thank you so very much for being present with us.

655
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,960
And for now, please enjoy this anthem.

656
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:38,960
The End

657
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,960
Thank God we're not. That's right.

658
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:11,960
You know, it's interesting because of the different weather modification programs.

659
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:18,960
There's something like, I think, right around 32 in the continental U.S. alone going on.

660
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,960
So the theory is that geoengineering is in part weather modification.

661
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,960
You know, Mike, that's a very good point.

662
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,960
There are so many subsets connected with this issue of geoengineering.

663
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:39,960
People are writing to us all the time with information about the connection to global warming, the connection to weather modification.

664
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,960
Some people think there's a connection with Morgellons disease.

665
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:54,960
Others think it's kind of a means of transmitting electromagnetic impulses from the HAARP antenna system up in Alaska and Siberia.

666
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,960
Boy, it gets your head spinning. And each area, I think, is worthy of investigation.

667
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:01,960
But we have so little time.

668
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:11,960
I think it's wise for us to stay focused on just the aerospraying and the toxic effect of these chemicals and the destruction of the planet and the damage to human health.

669
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,960
What more do you need than that to convince people that we have to put a stop to it?

670
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,960
So to stay focused, I think, is our mission on this one.

671
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:31,960
Jeremy, we had an idea. We know that you know the political system real well.

672
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:38,960
Our idea was this. We have a ton of data and information that we've collected throughout our travels.

673
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:44,960
And, you know, we really think a good way to end the film would be addressing this to elected officials, some of the senators.

674
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:53,960
So we were wondering this. If you might be able to come and kind of help us out and perhaps show us the way in how to get this done politically.

675
01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:02,960
That's a really good idea. And I'm also going to get to, in terms of research and fluidity, what we should really focus on talking to about this.

676
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:21,960
At the very least, if we could make it impossible for them to claim that they don't know at this point, we can strip away their plausible deniability that they haven't heard of the data that points to the geoengineering, the stratosphere aerosol operation already going on.

677
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:28,960
At the very least, it should be very interesting to go to District of Criminality and put some people on alert.

678
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:34,960
Yeah, you have a lot of enemies in Washington. That's where all the power comes together and the money, you know.

679
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:44,960
So there are people there, I'm sure, that just don't want us to do this job. But I'm glad you're going. And you'll find out.

680
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:54,960
We took the data to Washington, D.C. There we presented our elected officials with the following letter.

681
01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:08,960
According to the fifth article of the Bill of Rights, amending the Constitution for the United States of America, no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.

682
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:20,960
But the daily spraying is depriving all persons living within the United States of life, health, liberty, and integrity of our common and private property without due process of law.

683
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:33,960
As a representative of the people of the United States of America, we insist that you do everything in your power to protect us and immediately put a stop to geoengineering spraying at once.

684
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:40,960
There exists no justification, legal or otherwise, to poison the planet and its inhabitants.

685
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Now suppose that space aliens arrived on, maybe they're going to land at the UN headquarters down the road here, or maybe they'll pick a smarter spot.

686
01:14:50,960 --> 01:15:01,960
But suppose they arrive and they give you a box, and the box has two knobs. One knob is the knob for controlling global temperature, maybe another knob is a knob for controlling CO2 concentrations.

687
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:08,960
You might imagine that we would fight wars over that box, because we have no way to agree about where to set the knobs.

688
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,960
No global governance, and different people will have different places they want it set.

689
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:17,960
Solar engineering is like chemotherapy. No one wants it.

690
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:25,960
But we all want the ability to do chemo and to understand its risks, should we find ourselves with dangerous cancer.

691
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,960
How long does it last up there?

692
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:28,960
The lifetimes are years.

693
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:29,960
What?

694
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:30,960
Years?

695
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:31,960
A couple years.

696
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:32,960
And then it precipitates out?

697
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,960
Yeah, that's correct.

698
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,960
No toxic side effects?

699
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,960
The thing we always wonder about is the unknown.

700
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:43,960
So if you're thinking about acidification, it's clear that's not a problem in the several studies that showed that.

701
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:51,960
But of course the concern here is with so little research, there may be some unknown unknown that comes out of that field that bites us.

702
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:58,960
My name is Mike Murphy. I'm a filmmaker from Los Angeles. We're covering an issue called geoengineering.

703
01:15:58,960 --> 01:15:59,960
Thanks guys.

704
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:02,960
Senator, any questions about the issue of geoengineering?

705
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,960
I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about.

706
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:13,960
And wondering if you were supportive of geoengineers' proposals of spraying 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum into the atmosphere?

707
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,960
I should really get a briefing paper on it before you give it a date.

708
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,960
Are you aware of the issue?

709
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:20,960
Not completely.

710
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:26,960
At all? Okay. Do you have a letter from constituents? And people have concerns.

711
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,960
What for?

712
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,960
We're making a documentary about the scene.

713
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,960
I don't know. You guys have credentials to be here?

714
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,960
Yes, we do. We pass through security as well.

715
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:36,960
Endowed by our creator.

716
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,960
I think so.

717
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,960
Please don't touch Mike.

718
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,960
You're lying.

719
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,960
No, what are we lying about, sir?

720
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,960
No, we're not.

721
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,960
What are we lying about?

722
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,960
We're lying about Mike.

723
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,960
It's a little unusual, huh?

724
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,960
I haven't heard that.

725
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,960
Okay. You're not aware of it?

726
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,960
And it appears that these programs have already been deployed.

727
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,960
You know, I haven't looked at that proposal, and so, you know, why don't you let me review it?

728
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,960
I can do that. Are you aware of it?

729
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,960
Actually, I'm going to go with you.

730
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,960
Yeah.

731
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:24,960
Let me go ahead and get that. I will take a look at this, and I will act accordingly.

732
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:37,960
General, this openly covert program of the aerosol spraying, stratospheric aerosol spraying, geoengineering, using tons of aluminum, spraying it up in the sky.

733
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:38,960
There's no audio.

734
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,960
Okay.

735
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,960
We call it the PEM trail, sir.

736
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:47,960
When you were the head of NEMA, did you see the aerosol trails?

737
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,960
Mike Murphy from I-9 Los Angeles.

738
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:51,960
Hi, sir.

739
01:17:51,960 --> 01:18:02,960
And we're covering an issue called geoengineering, and wanted to know if you're supportive of geoengineering's proposals.

740
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,960
Hi, guys.

741
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:05,960
Hey, guys.

742
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:13,960
Are you supportive of geoengineering's proposals, which is dumping 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum into the atmosphere?

743
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,960
Absolutely, sir.

744
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Pardon?

745
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:17,960
Absolutely.

746
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,960
Okay.

747
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,960
Can you take the question from my office?

748
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:29,960
I'm not supportive, either. I haven't looked at it.

749
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:39,960
Have you heard of the issue, because it's becoming mainstream in public, and there are actually congressional committees which are being formed to talk about these programs.

750
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:40,960
Yeah.

751
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:49,960
Well, I think if we drop anything into the atmosphere, we should know prior to the effect of that, right?

752
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:50,960
Yes.

753
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,960
And if we don't have the knowledge as to what the effect will be, we shouldn't do it.

754
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,960
There are four different options for thinking about deployment of geoengineering.

755
01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:01,960
The first one would be we just ban it.

756
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:11,960
I would argue that one does not want to get too firm a restriction in place on small-scale studies early on, because it will tie the science hands.

757
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:21,960
I think what the science community ought to be trying to do is say, you do small-scale stuff inside this space, and it's a scientific question what that space ought to be.

758
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,960
There shouldn't be a lot of oversight and restriction.

759
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,960
Excuse me.

760
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,960
Hi, I'm Mike Murphy from Los Angeles covering an issue called geoengineering.

761
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,960
These guys are running from the geoengineering issue. I wonder why.

762
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,960
I have to talk to my staff. I don't know what the details on that are.

763
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,960
Have anyone made you aware of the issue?

764
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:46,960
Sir?

765
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,960
Did...

766
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,960
You're committee talked about geoengineering last November. Are you in support of those proposals?

767
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,960
I'd love to give you a paper.

768
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:04,960
Geoengineering? You know nothing about the geoengineering issue?

769
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,960
They call it geoengineering, but...

770
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,960
I never heard of it. It's nothing I've ever heard of.

771
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:15,960
When we looked up in the air today, outside, we saw stuff going on.

772
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,960
Quickly, have you heard of geoengineering?

773
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:18,960
No.

774
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,960
The proposals to shoot 10 million tons of metals into the air,

775
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,960
this committee, Science and Technology, covered it for the first time.

776
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:25,960
No, I've never heard of it.

777
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,960
So we were very concerned.

778
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,960
Hi, how you doing? I'm fine. How are you?

779
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,960
We spoke with Congresswoman Watson's office, and her press secretary, Ms. White,

780
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,960
was familiar with Representative Kucinich's Space Preservation Act,

781
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,960
which mentioned chemtrails and the weaponization of the atmosphere in space,

782
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,960
and then it was pressured to be taken off the bill.

783
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,960
Did you see the aerosol spraying going on today over the Capitol?

784
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,960
Congressman?

785
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,960
Geoengineering carries with it a tremendous range of uncertainties,

786
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:09,960
ethical and political concerns, and the potential for catastrophic environmental side effects.

787
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:17,960
He's not one to do interviews very often, so I would not usually pressure him into it.

788
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:18,960
Okay.

789
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,960
So all that is, don't hold your breath.

790
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,960
As chairman of the Committee of Jurisdiction, I feel a responsibility to begin a public dialogue

791
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,960
and develop a record on geoengineering.

792
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,960
We want to know if you're supportive of their measures by spraying 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum

793
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,960
into the atmosphere?

794
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,960
No, I think we need to have more research.

795
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,960
Okay. And about the issue of current deployment, there's literally a mountain of evidence

796
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:48,960
that many people believe proves the deployment of these programs.

797
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,960
Any knowledge of that?

798
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,960
No, there's certainly not a mountain of evidence,

799
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:57,960
but I do support research into geoengineering,

800
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:02,960
and I also support looking into the international governance of that.

801
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,960
I hope anybody that has studied it knows that I think that it's a radical proposal,

802
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,960
and I hope we don't have to use it, but there may come that point in time where we do.

803
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:16,960
Now, if we could provide you with the evidence that suggests that these programs are and have been ongoing,

804
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,960
would you be willing to address this publicly?

805
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,960
We've had about three or four hearings on it. We have addressed some of them.

806
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,960
Well, not about the proposals, but about the current deployment of these programs.

807
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,960
I don't support the current deployment. I think we need to have more research,

808
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,960
and they have consequences that go beyond one nation,

809
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,960
and so I think there needs to be governance to that.

810
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:44,960
Governance is not simply an issue of deployment, but governance before deployment

811
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,960
in terms particularly of large-scale scientific fieldwork.

812
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:56,960
I concede that on this subject and in general, it's not popular to talk about global rules.

813
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:01,960
When these people started talking about the need for UN Security Council oversight,

814
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:07,960
a super-national environmental security enforcement with a strong mandate by the UN,

815
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:17,960
it really is clear that they're looking for a global power behind the manipulation of the environment.

816
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:22,960
But I do think it needs to be sort of an international kind of treaty that does tie

817
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,960
and bind all nations into a common fate. It is a common fate.

818
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,960
And unfortunately, it's not just big governments that could do this.

819
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:35,960
It is small governments. It is billionaires probably could figure out.

820
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,960
I'm going to save the world all by myself, and I won't bother to mention it.

821
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:43,960
How do we decide when there's a planetary emergency? Whose hand is on the thermostat?

822
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,960
How do we decide when to start a... There's no way to do that right now.

823
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:54,960
And what if we do start doing it, and then by some problem with the technology or with the will,

824
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:00,960
we can no longer do it. In a year or two, the aerosols will come out of the atmosphere

825
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,960
and temperatures will shoot up at a rate much faster than it's going up now.

826
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,960
And it's that rate of change that's hard for us to adapt to.

827
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,960
So once we start it, we'll be sort of locked into doing it for a long, long time,

828
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,960
with basically no end in sight.

829
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,960
Boeing would pursue this to make a profit, right? I mean, the financial motivation to do this.

830
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,960
Let's see. So let me not speak for Boeing.

831
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,960
Is that allowed? Okay.

832
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:30,960
Well, it is what it is.

833
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,960
But someday, if the US is going to decide to do this stuff,

834
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:39,960
they're going to look to a company who can do it, and you want to be positioned...

835
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,960
Boeing would rather get it than Lockheed Martin.

836
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:49,960
So certainly, we have an industrial base that helps the country take on technologies

837
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,960
and large-scale challenges like national defense.

838
01:24:52,960 --> 01:25:01,960
And we do that both for a profit motive as well as, I think, as a national service.

839
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,960
I think it would be truly disastrous if, you know, we discovered a few years from now

840
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:12,960
that there was a black program that some government had stood up to sort of learn on the quiet

841
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:13,960
how to do this.

842
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,960
It's pretty clear you can cool the planet, but you will not and cannot bring it back

843
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,960
to exactly the same climate state you started with.

844
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,960
So you may or may not, and I expect we'll have a lot of back and forth

845
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,960
about how useful it is to ameliorate the risks of climate change.

846
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,960
I think there's a good evidence it probably is useful, but we don't know.

847
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,960
But it certainly can't get you back to exactly the climate you started with.

848
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,960
I think everybody agrees with that.

849
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,960
Do you think you'll see deployment in our lifetime?

850
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,960
All right. Let me say I hope not.

851
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:40,960
Al?

852
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,960
I would agree. I hope not.

853
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:44,960
I hope not.

854
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:45,960
I agree. Okay.

855
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:53,960
I see this as something like an evacuation plan, you know, that you build big dikes.

856
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,960
Maybe that's the emissions reduction to try to keep the flood from wiping you out,

857
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:03,960
but that if you should, that flood should come, that you'd like a plan for what to do

858
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,960
in the event of that catastrophe.

859
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,960
So I see these options more as a catastrophic response option

860
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:15,960
and not as a way to reduce risk of everyday climate change.

861
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:22,960
You would advocate mitigating consumption of beef as a means of accomplishing your objective?

862
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,960
Yes.

863
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,960
How would you suggest going about that?

864
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:33,960
You can't, I don't, I mean, it's your job to decide what to tax and what not to tax.

865
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,960
Obviously, if you wanted people to behave differently,

866
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,960
you'd give them incentives and disincentives for behavior.

867
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,960
I'm sure that's the answer you wanted to hear, Mr. Smith.

868
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,960
If only my time had not expired.

869
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,960
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

870
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,960
Because there's literally aluminum and barium contamination found around the world,

871
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,960
believed to be from these programs.

872
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,960
Like, look, today over the Capitol, looks like they're deploying some type of aerosol.

873
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:58,960
Did you see it?

874
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,960
No, I didn't, but good to see you.

875
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,960
In a James Bonson or some rogue rich guy puts some airplanes in the air and sees the clouds.

876
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,960
What is to prevent that?

877
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,960
I'd be glad to part with you.

878
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,960
Just follow our office.

879
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,960
Okay, are you aware of the issue?

880
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,960
You do it through the office.

881
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,960
Are you in support of those proposals?

882
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:24,960
I don't know anything about it, but I have to get more, I've got a chair here.

883
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:25,960
Okay, we'll give you a letter on that.

884
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,960
Yeah, this is a letter from constituents.

885
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:28,960
Okay, great.

886
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:28,960
Excellent.

887
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,960
And many people believe that these programs have already been deployed because mass contamination has been found.

888
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:34,960
What are the programs?

889
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,960
Geoengineering programs, stratospheric.

890
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:37,960
Geoengineering, got it.

891
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:38,960
Yeah.

892
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:39,960
Just brought it up.

893
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:40,960
Spraying from airplanes.

894
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,960
Okay.

895
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,960
So what is happening, people from around the world are finding contamination.

896
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,960
Let me take care of this and I'll talk to you when I come back.

897
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:47,960
I've got a chair here.

898
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:48,960
Thank you very much.

899
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,960
We see that even though we might make the average temperature of the planet about right,

900
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,960
rainfall patterns change some from today.

901
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,960
And some places become warmer and some places become cooler.

902
01:27:59,960 --> 01:28:06,960
So there are going to be winners and losers in this geoengineering activity if we were to do it.

903
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:12,960
But nevertheless, as David has said, there are reasons why we might consider doing it.

904
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,960
Many people are deeply concerned about it because of the toxicity of aluminum,

905
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,960
and it has been addressed to Congress in various committees.

906
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:28,960
Would you take a look at a letter from some of your constituents addressing the concerns?

907
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:30,960
Great, so you're going to excuse me if I go.

908
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:31,960
Okay.

909
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,960
Can I give you a letter from constituents?

910
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,960
Are you aware of their proposals of dumping?

911
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:36,960
No, I'm not.

912
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:37,960
Gotcha.

913
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:38,960
Thanks.

914
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,960
Well, I'm not familiar with it, so I don't know what they're doing.

915
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,960
Okay.

916
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:50,960
Well, geoengineers are proposing just that, dumping aluminum and barium into the atmosphere.

917
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:51,960
Why would we do that?

918
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,960
Aluminum is a precious metal we can use.

919
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,960
Well, the stated goal is to actually cool the planet.

920
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,960
However, there's a...

921
01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,960
Sounds strange.

922
01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:00,960
Right, right.

923
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:01,960
Exactly.

924
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,960
So they're proposing dumping these metals into the air to block the sun, essentially.

925
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,960
We're here to find out what members of Congress are aware of.

926
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,960
I hope we have a strong hearing on that before we decide to do this.

927
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:14,960
I would hope so.

928
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,960
And there's plenty of evidence that not only suggests that these programs have been deployed

929
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:23,960
because we're finding contamination of aluminum and barium on the rains, snow, and soil.

930
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:24,960
Okay, thank you.

931
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:25,960
Thank you.

932
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,960
LA County has seen a 200% increase in Alzheimer's or stegmatin.

933
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:37,960
Tons of ground and water samples showing high levels of aluminum all around our state.

934
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,960
Why don't you give me all the information you have?

935
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,960
I have some very good people I will assign it to.

936
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,960
And if you get it to Mr. Lavelle...

937
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,960
He's got my card and sent me an email.

938
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:52,960
Sounds good.

939
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:53,960
We'll be in touch.

940
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:59,960
We are investigating this and there's literally a mountain of evidence that suggests that these programs are being deployed.

941
01:29:59,960 --> 01:30:00,960
Okay, move that mountain over to us.

942
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,960
We'll take a look at it.

943
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,960
And look up, keep looking up into the sky and you'll see some of it too.

944
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:06,960
Okay.

945
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:07,960
You will.

946
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,960
You can see the aerosols being sprayed out of airplanes quite a bit.

947
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:11,960
So thank you.

948
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,960
Yeah, the future of humanity is definitely dependent on it.

949
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,960
So we're counting on people like yourself to take some proactive steps.

950
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:20,960
So thank you very much, guys.

951
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:21,960
You're very welcome.

952
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:22,960
Appreciate it.

953
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,960
Thank you.

954
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:24,960
Right.

955
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:36,960
A lot of Congress was running down the hallways to avoid answering any questions, looking for doors in the hallways.

956
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:43,960
So apparently the war is against all of us and we're all in a hostage crisis.

957
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:51,960
People who took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution are not only know this is happening, are participating in this.

958
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:56,960
And all of us have a duty to stand up and speak out about it.

959
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,960
Why is the water being contaminated?

960
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,960
Why is the soil being contaminated?

961
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,960
Why are aluminum related diseases going up and it's affecting all of us?

962
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:13,960
And thus we all have the duty to stand up and speak out and get educated and stop this for our own sake, for our children's sake.

963
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,960
It is a crucial moment in history right now.

964
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:28,960
The human beings, we need to decide whether to live on our knees while being sprayed and poisoned every day, while being under continual threat,

965
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:39,960
or whether we are going to stand up and live as free human beings and seek truth, justice, peace and freedom for all of God's children.

966
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,960
So as you can see, we're ending our film here in Washington, D.C.

967
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,960
We've made many public officials aware of this.

968
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:53,960
Most of them either denied any knowledge of this or they simply were unwilling to address the situation with us.

969
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,960
So as you can see right behind the White House, we do have aerosols behind us.

970
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:58,960
The spraying has continued.

971
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,960
What is the solution?

972
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,960
Is the solution here in Washington, D.C.?

973
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,960
Clearly, this is one of the solutions.

974
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,960
But the solution is not only here.

975
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,960
The solution is within you.

976
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,960
This issue affects all of us so deeply.

977
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,960
So you need to look inside.

978
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,960
Please get active, get involved, start spreading the word with growing awareness.

979
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,960
About 90% of the population, we believe, is unaware of this issue,

980
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:29,960
which means 90% of the people who normally might do something if they knew are not doing anything because they are unaware.

981
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,960
So please look into your heart, use whatever skill you have to get the word out.

982
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,960
The future of humanity is dependent upon it.

983
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,960
Thank you.

984
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:20,960
Thank you.