1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,320 I'm David Wilcock, and welcome to another episode of Disclosure. 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,260 In this episode, we get to the beating heart of the question that we're all wanting to 3 00:00:23,260 --> 00:00:26,640 ask when we learn about the Federal Reserve. 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Does this banking cartel have a vulnerability? 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,600 Is there anything that can actually be done? 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,040 If there's anybody who's in a good position to answer that question, it's G. Edward Griffin, 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,100 because remember, his book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, was almost single-handedly 8 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:51,640 responsible for educating Representative Ron Paul on the secrets of the Federal Reserve, 9 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,040 which led to a Federal Reserve audit. 10 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:01,320 So once we start to explore what's actually happened, we see that when information is 11 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,000 intelligently provided to the right people, they will take action on it. 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,280 Yes, it is true. 13 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:14,760 The cabal is using surveillance, blackmail, bribery, and lethal threats and lethal force 14 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,480 to impose their agenda, but that can only work when a small number of people know about 15 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,240 the truth and everybody else is kept in the dark. 16 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,720 So what's happening now is that knowledge is reaching a critical mass. 17 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,280 People are waking up like never before. 18 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:36,040 We are learning what's really going on in the world, in our governments, with the media 19 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,640 and all of these related subjects. 20 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,000 Now one of the groups that is the most politically active turns out to be the right wingers, 21 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,120 the people who watch Fox. 22 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 They're more apt to go and vote. 23 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,160 They're more apt to want to get out in the streets. 24 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,600 They're more apt to get angry and shout about politics. 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Well G. Edward Griffin would be somebody who, because he was the brain for Ron Paul, should 26 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,880 be the darling of the right wing. 27 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,420 So there's some very interesting discussion we have in this episode about Fox News and 28 00:02:06,420 --> 00:02:08,620 the right wing attack media. 29 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:13,780 And as I'm sure you're thinking, the idea here is that you've got one octopus and this 30 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:19,380 This idea of right wing and left wing, of conservative and liberal, it's all part of 31 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:20,460 the game. 32 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:25,180 It's all part of the war between country and town, where the country people tend to be 33 00:02:25,180 --> 00:02:31,860 more in the traditional mindset and the town people tend to have more of the all-inclusive 34 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:37,220 view where they're not apt to be racist and they're apt to want to work together more. 35 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:41,180 And that may sound as if I'm left wing biased, but come on, I was raised in upstate New York. 36 00:02:41,180 --> 00:02:42,460 Anyway, let's check it out. 37 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:48,340 This is G. Edward Griffin rounding it out with the vulnerability of the cartel. 38 00:02:48,340 --> 00:02:50,340 Check it out. 39 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:54,860 Many people who are researching the subject that you've literally been writing about for 40 00:02:54,860 --> 00:03:03,960 50 years, this shadowy international cartel, end up actually inadvertently worshiping the 41 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,580 cartel with their fear. 42 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:11,240 They ascribe supernatural properties to it. 43 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:19,360 They believe that it is somehow beyond any type of consequences that could come its way. 44 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,740 They think that any opposition that shows up to the cartel must actually be financed 45 00:03:23,740 --> 00:03:26,920 and owned by the cartel secretly. 46 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:33,000 And yet, if we look at the tapestry of history, we see things like the Watergate trial that 47 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,480 almost led to the impeachment of President Richard Nixon. 48 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Now we're seeing things breaking open like the Libor scandal and the gold fixing and 49 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,780 the NSA being another great example, the NSA surveillance. 50 00:03:51,780 --> 00:03:55,900 So is this group truly invulnerable? 51 00:03:55,900 --> 00:04:03,920 Or in fact, are we seeing chinks in the armor that can be used ultimately to end this tyranny? 52 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:10,800 Well, I certainly don't think that this cabal that we're talking about is undefeatable 53 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 or else I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. 54 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:19,600 I would be hiding up in the hills somewhere, not concerning myself about it. 55 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Sure, they are vulnerable. 56 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,840 They have many points of vulnerability. 57 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:33,960 The most vulnerable point, I think, is the degree to which the average person is willing 58 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,340 to question authority. 59 00:04:36,340 --> 00:04:42,560 And you mentioned that people have been conditioned to accept authority, almost to worship it, 60 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,080 but certainly to not question it. 61 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,080 You just accept authority. 62 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,000 We're taught that in school. 63 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,060 That's one of the prime directives of the public school system, is to teach people how 64 00:04:51,140 --> 00:04:57,980 to be team players and how to go along with the group and to take directions and not 65 00:04:57,980 --> 00:04:59,760 make waves. 66 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,820 And you're graded on your ability to be a good citizen and all that sort of thing. 67 00:05:04,820 --> 00:05:11,820 It's hammered into us in the public school system so that we accept authority as almost 68 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:16,820 on a religious level. 69 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:24,660 Rules for living together. 70 00:05:24,660 --> 00:05:28,540 We have hall guards to remind us of our traffic rules in the halls. 71 00:05:28,540 --> 00:05:32,660 Our teachers are always glad to answer questions about the rules. 72 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:37,980 Alvin, whose job is it to see that you know the rules? 73 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:38,980 What can I say? 74 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:42,340 How do you convince people that they must learn the rules? 75 00:05:42,340 --> 00:05:47,020 We don't question authority any more than we would question God. 76 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:50,780 And in fact, some of these people who are advocates of collectivism are very clear on 77 00:05:50,780 --> 00:05:55,540 that and they believe that the state should become the new religion. 78 00:05:55,540 --> 00:06:01,380 That we should view the so-called greater good of the greater number or the greater 79 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:06,740 good of society as the ultimate good works for our salvation. 80 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:12,860 It's something that we can relate to as one would relate to going to heaven. 81 00:06:12,860 --> 00:06:18,420 And they talk about this, that religion to a god has to be replaced, they say, by worship 82 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:19,780 of the state. 83 00:06:19,780 --> 00:06:26,860 And indirectly that means by worship of the leaders of the state who have now become 84 00:06:26,860 --> 00:06:31,980 beatific symbols in this new religion called collectivism. 85 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:37,980 So anyway, I think that the problem is that that education has been very effective. 86 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:45,460 And in today's world, most kids come out of school totally programmed to accept authority. 87 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:50,580 And if you question authority, it's somehow considered to be wrong. 88 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:54,100 You're a bad person if you question authority. 89 00:06:54,100 --> 00:07:00,780 With that mentality and that programming, people believe that once a person who could 90 00:07:00,780 --> 00:07:04,940 be totally corruptible, they know he's a corruptible human being, might even be their 91 00:07:04,940 --> 00:07:09,500 next door neighbor, and they know that he's a drunken so-and-so and he beats his wife, 92 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:16,740 So once he's elected to office, now he is purified. 93 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:21,500 He's ready to be accepted without question. 94 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:26,300 He's now a good person and you must respect everything he thinks and everything he says, 95 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:28,260 otherwise you're a bad person. 96 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:32,120 It's overstated, but that is really what's happening. 97 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,780 So if we're going to turn our society around and produce something other than programmed 98 00:07:37,780 --> 00:07:39,500 We have to recognize what the problem is. 99 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:44,700 At first, we're going to have to break away from this school system that is programmed 100 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,260 to indoctrinate students. 101 00:07:46,260 --> 00:07:50,060 We have to question even that authority. 102 00:07:50,060 --> 00:07:54,460 If you want a student to question the authority, you've got to question the authority that 103 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:57,420 says no, they mustn't question the authority. 104 00:07:57,420 --> 00:07:59,040 And so that's where we start. 105 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,940 It's a long uphill battle, but I think the climb has already begun. 106 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:04,700 Terrific. 107 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:12,900 How do you see the right-wing media of Fox News playing into this? 108 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:21,160 To me, it seems very clear that they are trying to marry a political right-wing ideology 109 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:29,980 that benefits the politicians and this cartel to the people's idea of the Christian religious 110 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:31,860 faith. 111 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:37,660 It appears that the Christians are essentially being duped by Fox News, that their beliefs 112 00:08:37,660 --> 00:08:43,320 are being used for political purposes to advance a particular agenda. 113 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:51,700 So I'm interested in how you see the relationship between right-wing media, Fox News, Christianity, 114 00:08:51,700 --> 00:08:52,700 and the cartel. 115 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:57,020 Is there some defining connection that unifies all of these elements together? 116 00:08:57,660 --> 00:09:02,340 Well, I think the connecting thread is the fact that we have addressed earlier, which 117 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:06,900 is that there's really not an awful lot of difference between the right-wing and the 118 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:07,900 left-wing. 119 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:14,880 It's just more for strategic purposes to keep the American people and people in other 120 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:22,820 countries as well, to keep them pacified, content with the idea that they're participating 121 00:09:22,820 --> 00:09:26,980 in their own political destiny, you know, because they get to choose. 122 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:28,980 They get to choose between the left and the right. 123 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:31,900 They get to choose between Republican and Democrat. 124 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:37,300 And we've got Fox News, which promotes the one side, and we've got, what, CNN or somebody 125 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:40,220 else that promotes the other side, and you get to choose. 126 00:09:40,220 --> 00:09:44,060 And therefore, since you go to the poll once every two years and you get to choose, put 127 00:09:44,060 --> 00:09:50,220 an X, that act of putting an X or punching a hole, that not only makes you feel good 128 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:54,820 because now you have participated in your own political destiny, but you have sanctified 129 00:09:54,820 --> 00:09:58,100 the candidate that you voted for because you voted for him. 130 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:01,660 And you know, you wouldn't vote for a bad person. 131 00:10:01,660 --> 00:10:02,660 Nobody would do that. 132 00:10:02,660 --> 00:10:05,700 So if you voted for this person, that makes him a good person. 133 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:07,700 That's the thinking in the background. 134 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:11,900 So that's the connection is that the Fox News phenomenon and, you know, the right and 135 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:19,140 the left phenomenon in the media are merely ploys to keep us content with the false impression 136 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:21,980 that this is the best world possible. 137 00:10:21,980 --> 00:10:26,620 And we don't even think about going outside of those parameters, which is exactly where 138 00:10:26,620 --> 00:10:27,620 they want us. 139 00:10:27,620 --> 00:10:28,820 They want us in those parameters. 140 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:33,060 We don't go outside of the box and everything will continue to go exactly as it has been 141 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:35,300 going up until now. 142 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:41,660 You've been researching this cartel and these complicated subjects for literally half a 143 00:10:41,660 --> 00:10:43,420 century now. 144 00:10:43,420 --> 00:10:48,820 And what we've discussed is corruption that goes all the way back to the American Revolution 145 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:52,380 and possibly much farther back than that. 146 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:58,500 Let's say at some point that there is a defining moment of truth where this cartel has been 147 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:05,180 weakened enough that they are now publicly exposed on a widespread mass level. 148 00:11:05,180 --> 00:11:09,460 Perhaps there's some sort of South African truth and reconciliation committee that's 149 00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:14,300 occurring based on your experience and your pedigree. 150 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:22,140 How would you go in there and actually resolve the intrinsic systemic problems that we have 151 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:28,640 in the fields of politics, in the fields of finance, in the fields of business, and bring 152 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,620 us to a more equitable system where everyone can be happy? 153 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:40,840 I think that that question is so important that it needs to be broken down a little bit, 154 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,660 at least into two categories. 155 00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:48,820 The first category is having to do with what needs to be done. 156 00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:52,260 When people say, how do you solve this problem, what they're usually thinking of is, well, 157 00:11:52,260 --> 00:11:55,540 what do we do? 158 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:58,260 We need, for example, what needs to be done? 159 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:03,500 We need to restore the nation to a sound monetary system. 160 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:06,460 We need to abolish the Federal Reserve. 161 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:12,980 We need to do a lot of things and then nobody will disagree on most of these things. 162 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:14,860 But that's the first category. 163 00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:17,340 The second category is, well, how? 164 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:19,540 It's easy to say, well, we need to do this, this, and this. 165 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:23,380 We get letters to the editor all the time from pundits saying, well, don't you know 166 00:12:23,380 --> 00:12:24,940 we need to do this, this, and this? 167 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:27,860 And I have to laugh because, yeah, I do know that. 168 00:12:27,860 --> 00:12:33,320 But how are we going to do that when the power to do this is in the hands of our enemy? 169 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,500 So the next part of that question is how? 170 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:47,380 I believe that the answer to that question, I might approach it from a hilarious point 171 00:12:47,380 --> 00:12:50,620 of view and say, well, very slowly, you know. 172 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:51,620 And that is true. 173 00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:53,200 It can't all be done at once. 174 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,100 But that's not the real issue. 175 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:56,400 How do we do it? 176 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:03,100 We have to do it with that dreaded thing called power. 177 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:11,180 One of my greatest mistakes, I think, in my early awareness of this movement is that 178 00:13:11,180 --> 00:13:16,460 I thought power, especially governmental power, was the problem. 179 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,880 Power of the state was the problem. 180 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,860 And so I would speak eloquently, I hope, against power. 181 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:29,340 We've got to avoid concentration of power, and we've got to work to eliminate power, 182 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:34,940 reduce power everywhere we find it to allow individuals to have the freedom to do what 183 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:38,580 they want without being coerced. 184 00:13:38,580 --> 00:13:42,340 And then one morning I woke up, literally. 185 00:13:42,340 --> 00:13:46,900 I guess I'd been thinking about it or dreaming about it, and I remember I woke up, I don't 186 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:52,140 remember if I actually sat up or not, but I felt like I did, and I said, oh, we reject 187 00:13:52,140 --> 00:13:56,660 power, we lose. 188 00:13:56,660 --> 00:14:03,460 That was a hard thing for me to grapple with because I had always been thinking that power 189 00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:05,300 was the problem. 190 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:10,060 And then I finally realized that power is not the problem any more than guns are the 191 00:14:10,060 --> 00:14:11,060 problem. 192 00:14:11,060 --> 00:14:12,600 Guns don't kill people. 193 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,660 People kill people with guns. 194 00:14:15,660 --> 00:14:20,780 And the only thing more dangerous than having guns is not having guns. 195 00:14:20,780 --> 00:14:30,260 And so I made the analogy that the question with guns is not guns themselves, but the 196 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:37,580 conditions of gun ownership and the freedom to have guns versus regimenting society to 197 00:14:37,580 --> 00:14:39,420 eliminate guns and so forth. 198 00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:43,980 I recognize that if we got rid of all guns and it was only in the hands of criminals, 199 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:46,980 well, we know that the criminal rules society. 200 00:14:46,980 --> 00:14:50,980 So I made the analysis and said, okay, power is not the problem because if we don't have 201 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:58,100 the power to dislodge our enemy from these positions of power that he has, he's going 202 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:01,380 to stay in those positions. 203 00:15:01,380 --> 00:15:06,320 You cannot overcome power without equal or greater power. 204 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,860 And that was a frightening thought to me. 205 00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:14,780 But it has mellowed well, and I realize now after quite a few years of living with that 206 00:15:14,780 --> 00:15:16,280 thought, that it is true. 207 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:22,440 The question then is, well, how do we prevent if we strive for power ourselves, we must 208 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,880 reach out and acquire the very political power and the power in the media and everywhere 209 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:34,440 else, the very power that our opponents now have if we want to succeed. 210 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,800 That being the case, how can we do that? 211 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,000 And assuming we succeed, how can we be sure that we ourselves, now that we're in control 212 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,960 of this power, don't become just as corrupt and evil as the people we're opposing? 213 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,840 And therein lies the answer to your question. 214 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Can it be done? 215 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,320 First of all, is the question, and I'm very firmly convinced that it can be done if we 216 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,560 go about it intelligently. 217 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,840 And then the question is, well, how do we bring it about? 218 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,220 It can be done if we're very clear on what our goals are. 219 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:12,980 If everybody enlisted in this movement has a very clear mental picture of what we're 220 00:16:12,980 --> 00:16:19,260 trying to achieve, if we have a creed, for example, this we believe, and we really are 221 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:24,660 on all on the same page, we agreed to a certain statement of principles. 222 00:16:24,660 --> 00:16:31,460 And one of those principles is that we cannot and must never use political power or the 223 00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:38,340 legalized force of coercion to deny any person their freedom unless it's to protect life, 224 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:39,860 liberty, and property. 225 00:16:39,860 --> 00:16:46,100 If we are clear on that, that those are the limits of coercion, of legalized coercion, 226 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:53,060 then the risk of fraud and corruption is greatly reduced, never completely reduced, of course. 227 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:59,600 And to fill in the remainder of that risk that people in our movement could become just 228 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:09,740 as guilty of oppression as our present leaders, then we need a watchdog committee. 229 00:17:09,740 --> 00:17:15,600 We need a group of people who are really aware, keenly aware of this problem and who have 230 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:21,560 dedicated a major portion of their lives to just become watchdogs over this whole thing 231 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,520 and who make sure that if anybody steps out of line, who is part of the movement, and 232 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,800 they violate those principles, that they're called immediately on it. 233 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,840 I think it can be done. 234 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:39,920 I think it can be done, and that's the reason that back in 2002 I created an organization 235 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,920 to bring all that about. 236 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840 It's called Freedom Force International. 237 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,760 And there's a lot to talk about on that, but anybody that wants to know about that and 238 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:56,280 how what I just spoke about relates to it, our website is freedomforceinternational.org, 239 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,400 standing for organization. 240 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,920 And our website explains all about this. 241 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:07,720 And basically what it is, is that we've created an organization, basically an organization 242 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:14,280 for non-joiners, people who recognize what the problem is. 243 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:21,800 You know, history is full of examples of people joining together and rising up against a tyranny. 244 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,840 And at great cost in treasure and blood, they finally overthrow the tyrant. 245 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,840 And what happens? 246 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,960 They replace him with another one, just like the one they overthrew, maybe even worse. 247 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,060 And it maybe takes a generation and they've got to go through the whole thing again. 248 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:44,460 So that's why people in our movement understand why they're overthrowing or trying to replace 249 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:45,680 the tyrant. 250 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,940 It's not because he's a bad person. 251 00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:53,700 It's not his personality or the kind of man or woman he may be or she may be. 252 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:54,820 It's what they believe in. 253 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:58,100 It's the structure, the system that they're putting in place. 254 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:02,020 It's the system that they defend and advocate. 255 00:19:02,020 --> 00:19:08,340 So once we're clear on that, then the replacements come along and they put in their place a 256 00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:14,940 different system, a different system based not on collectivism, which is the superiority 257 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:22,180 of the group, but a system based on individualism, which recognizes that the individual is the 258 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:25,580 core of society, not the group. 259 00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:28,040 And more, there's much more to it than that. 260 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,660 But I'm using this, I'm telling you about this only as an example that these issues 261 00:19:31,660 --> 00:19:34,100 have been thought about. 262 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:39,300 They have been worked on and I believe the challenges have been solved. 263 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:44,420 And anybody that wants to become part of this movement, I urge them to come to Freedom 264 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:48,460 Force International dot org and read about it. 265 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:51,380 And I think they'll be very impressed by what we've got started. 266 00:19:51,380 --> 00:19:53,180 Well, thank you so much. 267 00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:54,540 It's been a real honor. 268 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:55,740 Thank you, David. 269 00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:56,740 Thanks for inviting me. 270 00:19:56,740 --> 00:19:57,740 All right. 271 00:19:57,740 --> 00:20:00,540 So we're hearing some very good suggestions here. 272 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:05,140 I totally agree with the idea that a watchdog committee needs to be created. 273 00:20:05,140 --> 00:20:11,080 However, I think that that nonlinear nature of the way consciousness really works is solving 274 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,500 the problem. 275 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,020 You are the watchdog. 276 00:20:14,020 --> 00:20:15,860 I am the watchdog. 277 00:20:15,860 --> 00:20:17,340 We are the watchdogs. 278 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:23,180 And as we awaken, we put the information out on the Internet and we need to fight back 279 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:28,020 against all the lousy, crappy stuff where people haven't done their homework and they're 280 00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:32,820 alarmist or they're racist and they make statements that are anti-semitic, things like this. 281 00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:36,100 We need to focus on the real nature of the problem. 282 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:41,180 We're talking about a worldwide organized crime cartel. 283 00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:45,980 Once we can dispense with the labeling, we're not dealing with a race war, we're not dealing 284 00:20:45,980 --> 00:20:47,740 with a religious war. 285 00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:49,620 It's not even really a war at all. 286 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:54,200 This is ultimately a vehicle for human conscious evolution. 287 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,100 As we see what's going on in the world, we start to get the idea that the world may be 288 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:05,740 a vast illusion and that so many of the things that we took for granted as being reality 289 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:07,820 are just a construct. 290 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:12,740 So there's one level of this where the construct is being generated by a secretive power elite 291 00:21:12,740 --> 00:21:17,860 who are controlling the media, the government, the judiciary, the military, the financial 292 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:19,340 system. 293 00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:24,880 But there's another level in which there is an even greater illusion going on and that's 294 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,020 the whole illusion of the physical universe and the idea that there are in fact divine 295 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:35,100 beings who are orchestrating this and are managing it behind the scenes. 296 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:40,920 So there's lots more to discuss about the secretive nature of the illusion and who's 297 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,180 hiding behind the curtain. 298 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:47,700 So we're going to have a lot more for you coming up in the next episode of Disclosure. 299 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:53,380 I'm your host David Wilcock speaking truth to power and giving power to the truth.