1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,480 hello and welcome to another episode of disclosure we are interviewing my hero G 2 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:28,500 Edward Griffin the author of a whole bunch of really explosive whistleblowing books including 3 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:33,780 the creature from Jekyll Island which he is possibly the most known for in this episode 4 00:00:33,780 --> 00:00:39,840 we're really going to get into it now you may or may not have heard of the so-called LIBOR scandal 5 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:47,620 this is unbelievable because this is supposedly a watermark that determines how much competition 6 00:00:47,620 --> 00:00:53,740 banks have with each other based on their financial solvency and now we find out and this has been 7 00:00:53,740 --> 00:01:00,100 publicly made available to us that the banks were actually colluding with each other to rig their own 8 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:06,000 interest rates and the bottom line is that all of them were pretending that they were worth more than 9 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,640 they really were the whole economy is ultimately a Ponzi scheme then we're also seeing the Snowden 10 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,720 stuff coming out what's up with that what is the real purpose of the NSA is it really to look for 11 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:25,620 some guys in a cave in Afghanistan I don't think so G Edward Griffin asks some very pertinent questions 12 00:01:25,620 --> 00:01:34,380 here which is if we have this group it is essentially a cartel a cartel is simply governments 13 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:41,160 and businesses working together in secret to eliminate competition and maximize profits and so 14 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:47,220 the word cartel is a really good benchmark for using this so we have the NSA that's put people under 15 00:01:47,220 --> 00:01:53,460 surveillance and we're seeing the results of that surveillance seeming to include the fact that 16 00:01:53,460 --> 00:02:00,180 this group has been able to amass incredible power seemingly with no opposition if you can listen to 17 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:04,280 every phone call if you can hear what everybody's saying then you can basically do what you want 18 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,780 because if anybody comes up and tries to tear you down you can just take them out and that's what we 19 00:02:09,780 --> 00:02:17,160 seem to be seeing with this rash of banker suicides that's been going on all throughout 2014 so there's a 20 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,540 lot of information to consider here and G Edward Griffin is the best of the best he was the main 21 00:02:22,540 --> 00:02:28,440 inspiration for Ron Paul that led to Ron Paul speaking out about the Federal Reserve so I'm very 22 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,480 honored to be able to interview G Edward Griffin in this episode where we really get into the heart 23 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:40,920 of understanding the Federal Reserve and the NSA check it out now you are most well known for your 24 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:48,200 groundbreaking investigative work into exposing the Federal Reserve System so the average person can 25 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,880 pull a dollar out of their wallet and they look at the money and right up at the top it says Federal 26 00:02:53,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Reserve Note what exactly does that mean it means they're being vandalized it means they're being stolen from 27 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:15,480 it means they're they're using as money a piece of paper that was issued by a banking cartel and they 28 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:22,520 think that it's issued by the government they think it's secure they think it's it's a honorable piece 29 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:29,400 of money and they think that's best that there is they think that if they save that money in a bank 30 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:36,600 account or accumulate value in an insurance policy or something like that they think that they're doing 31 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:42,680 the right thing for themselves and their families because as the years go by they'll be able to retire on 32 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:49,400 this accumulated wealth so they they're thinking right and from their perspective but what they don't 33 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:56,920 realize is that this is a not a real at least not a good money system you could call it money it is it certainly 34 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:03,560 is a money but it's a very bad form of money it's a fiat money system um what they don't realize is 35 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:11,480 that it's a trick it's a fraud that the money system the money is supposed to be a measure of value 36 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:18,840 you're supposed to say well i measure everything in comparison to this unit the dollar supposed to be 37 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:25,960 the same now and 20 years from now and 50 years from now that should represent the same value and it does 38 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:33,720 if it's if the money is backed by something of value also like gold or silver or cases of cheap white 39 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,120 wine or anything that it takes human effort to produce then the money system if it's backed by 40 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:46,840 those things has a value that that is stable over a period of time but once they break the money away 41 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:52,600 from anything of intrinsic value and they can just create it by raising their hands say yeah i vote for 42 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,280 another hundred billion dollars today and it's it's created out of nothing well now there's no 43 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:04,200 longer a measure of value at all it's it's it's a trick it's it's worthless really and it's very 44 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:09,080 dangerous i shouldn't say it's worthless because as long as people are willing to accept it it's worth 45 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:15,240 that but the value of it keeps going down day by day month by month year by year and as we know 46 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,600 you know it was a time i can remember when i first started to drive a car i could 47 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:28,600 buy a gallon of gas for 31 cents well you know what it is today i i don't know how long this film's 48 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:35,880 going to be around now but it's pushing five dollars does that mean that uh the gas really costs more 49 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,880 no the gas really costs the same it's just that the value of the dollar has gone down 50 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:47,640 because it takes more of them to buy gas and bread and pay your rent and your utility bill takes more of 51 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:54,840 those for everything the real value has remained stable but we just have no measure of what stability 52 00:05:54,840 --> 00:06:03,480 is okay so the term federal reserve most people are going to think okay federal that means it's the 53 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:10,120 federal government of the united states reserve means that there is some reserve of money that they 54 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:17,960 are holding as collateral against these federal reserve notes that they're printing is the 55 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:24,440 federal reserve part of our federal government at all or not and what really is the federal reserve 56 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,840 what are we looking at here it's absolutely true that somebody will say that 57 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,960 i've heard it many many times but it is not absolutely absolutely true that they're correct 58 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,400 in fact they're wrong they just don't understand the truth of the matter is those are called federal 59 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:48,600 reserve notes which means that their a note is is like a iou that's what note means in the in the 60 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:54,280 financial world it's a note i loan you some money and here's my note uh for you to sign and you pay 61 00:06:54,280 --> 00:07:01,080 it back so you uh you hold the note or i hold the note and you've got the piece of paper and um and 62 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:09,080 so a federal reserve note means it's an iou issued by the federal reserve well what is the federal reserve 63 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:15,000 is it an agency of the federal government no it is not federal reserve is a is a banking cartel 64 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:21,320 it's a group of private banks so a federal reserve note is a piece of paper issued as an iou by the 65 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:30,840 private banks that's what it is and will those private banks ever pay it back no the answer is no 66 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:37,480 they'll pay it back but in what in more federal reserve notes see that's the trick if you're forced 67 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:44,600 to use these notes as money then no matter how worthless they become you must accept them as 68 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:50,920 payment back for the originals it's not an accident by the way these things are not taught in school 69 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,840 they're not taught in school because the schools are run by the government and it's in the best 70 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:02,120 interest of the government that you and i don't really think about these sorts of things very much 71 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:08,680 it's very much in their interest otherwise we might get angry one of the more interesting aspects 72 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:15,240 of your book is that you describe that there were four attempts made to create the federal reserve 73 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:23,000 the federal reserve act of 1913 was only the conclusion of a long-standing war to try to create 74 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:30,840 this financial structure of a central bank so can you walk us through the alternative view of american 75 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:38,040 history that you have presented and show us who these people are and how have they tried to build 76 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:45,240 this cartel over time it's a very important part of american history and it's something that's 77 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:51,720 surprised me to find out that the federal reserve was actually the fourth attempt to create what they 78 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:59,720 call a central bank in america a central bank is merely a code phrase uh that the academics use to 79 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:07,000 describe this thing called um we call it the federal reserve but in other countries they have the same 80 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,840 thing called something else they're all central banks which means that they're basically basically 81 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:19,880 private banks in the form of a cartel which have gone into partnership with their respective governments 82 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:27,560 and the governments have taken their cartel agreement and passed it into law so that now what would 83 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:32,680 normally be just a private agreement between the banks themselves to regulate themselves for their own 84 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:40,760 benefit now is enshrined in the laws of those countries which means that you and i now must obey 85 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:50,520 or abide by the rules of a cartel or we go to prison so that's the reason that most people think that the 86 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,880 federal reserve and other central banks around the world are in fact agencies of their governments 87 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,080 because they know if they don't go along with these rules they're going to go to prison 88 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,680 and only governments can put you in prison so that's what makes it look like a government agency when 89 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:14,760 in fact all it is is a private banking cartel agreement which has been passed into law and therefore the 90 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:20,760 government becomes a partner in a way with the private banks in this cartel and we've got this 91 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:29,720 partnership this this amalgamation between politics and finance and that's a very very powerful combination 92 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:37,080 well so i was surprised to find out that the federal reserve was the fourth attempt to do that in the united 93 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,360 states i was really surprised to find out that at the time of the signing of the declaration of 94 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:50,200 independence and the writing of the uh of the constitution itself we already had one of those here 95 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:57,240 i didn't know it but there was one there and uh it didn't last very long they they were raising money 96 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,600 by the way by printing it and creating it out of nothing to help finance the revolutionary war 97 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,240 that's one of the reasons that the politicians and the bankers form this partnership is because it's 98 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:13,800 mutually advantageous the politicians are able to get fast easy money in unlimited quantities because 99 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,160 the banks just created there's no limit not backed by gold or anything and the so that's why the 100 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,560 politicians like it and the bankers like it because heck they created money now they're collecting 101 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:28,600 interest on this thing they created they like that and everybody likes it except the poor suckers out 102 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,600 there like us who have to pay the taxes in the form of either direct taxes or inflation price is going 103 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:41,000 up to pay for all of this so that was already in place at that time it was um it had ruined what was 104 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:47,240 left of the economy at the end of the revolutionary war and um there was a strong movement to get rid of 105 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,960 it in fact they did they within a year or two i've forgotten the exact time frame but very soon 106 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:59,080 after the creation of the country the first central bank of the united states was allowed to expire 107 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:06,840 the charter expired and it became i think a philadelphia bank privately just a private bank now 108 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:13,080 the second one came along it was the first bank of the united states and it went out of business the 109 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,720 third one came along was the third bank of the united states and that was the one where was the 110 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:25,160 great battle um between president andrew jackson and the bankers you know he he's famous for that 111 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:31,880 battle and even even the history books today you could find a maybe a couple of lines about andrew 112 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,920 jackson's battle against the bank you don't get any details he just all you know is that jackson was 113 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,880 against the banks and you wonder really who were the good guys in that maybe jackson maybe the banks 114 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:48,920 but it turned out that um jackson really based his career on getting rid of the banks he called them 115 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:54,360 you den of vipers and that was his exact phrase you know colorful language for a president speaking 116 00:12:54,360 --> 00:13:01,080 against the central bank he says i will cast thee out it was almost a religious fervor you know and 117 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:08,840 he put his political career on the line and uh he almost lost that battle because um nicholas biddle was 118 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:15,560 the head of the bank at that time and he is quoted as saying i will get this uh this guy jackson i'm 119 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:23,720 going to ruin him i'm going to have him impeached and he said the the united states may fall but the 120 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:32,200 bank will not fall he's quoted as saying that and so what he did is he started to pull in loans that 121 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:38,440 were outstanding to businesses he was demanding full payment and it was putting companies out of business he 122 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:46,200 was deliberately creating a man-made recession so that he could say you see that's jackson's fault 123 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,400 he talks about taking away the power of our bank and look what he's doing to the economy and people 124 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,960 were saying yeah jackson you dirty guy look what you're doing to the economy and there was a movement 125 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:02,680 in congress to impeach him well it turned out that uh almost by accident there was one of the large 126 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:09,000 newspapers in the midwest that picked up on the fact that biddle was deliberately doing this they 127 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:15,960 published it and when the news hit that it was biddle himself who was doing this then the tide of 128 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:21,400 public opinion turned and it was biddle who found himself out on the street and jackson had the 129 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:28,920 support and the bank was finally terminated what's your perspective on the war of 1812 america had 130 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,160 declared its independence from britain but then the british come back and they tried to invade again 131 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:39,560 do you see that historical event as being significant in the research that you've conducted 132 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:47,160 i'm not one of the people that is so concerned about foreign involvement or influence in our federal 133 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:53,400 reserve system i know it's there i know that the the rothschilds and the warburgs in the beginning 134 00:14:53,400 --> 00:15:00,040 were very influential in the policies and so forth but i don't really see that as a as a major factor 135 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:09,160 let's just assume for the moment that that the british banks or political figures or shadowy figures 136 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:16,520 behind the scene are the dominant force in the federal reserve system so what we still have to get rid 137 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:22,760 of it you see we can talk about who is behind that and who's getting the most benefit but none of 138 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:29,320 that makes any difference we know it's not us so let's get on with the real job and get rid of this 139 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:35,960 monster let's slay this creature usually in that argument you find the idea that well it's those 140 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:42,360 big bad bankers that are the problem we're paying interest on the national debt to these big bad bankers 141 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,400 and interest on private debt too so all we got to do is just get those bankers out of the picture 142 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:53,000 and turn this fiat money system over to the treasury and let the federal government run the scam 143 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:02,040 see is we can't trust those big bad bankers but those nice friendly trustworthy politicians are 144 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,480 different we can trust them to take care of the problem this is the hidden message behind that 145 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,160 argument let's see who's behind it and they're foreigners well we don't like foreigners right 146 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:17,160 so let's turn it let's get it back to the people which means to the politicians in washington and i 147 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,520 don't like that solution at all i think it's a trap and i'm glad you brought it up because it gave me a 148 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:29,480 chance to express my views on that so i'm interested in looking at the fact that we have the federal 149 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:35,720 reserve that gets started in 1913 in which the american government quite literally outsourced the 150 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:44,840 issuance of its currency to a consortium of private bankers and then within four years we have the 151 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:51,800 conditions that lead up to world war one including the rise of the russian revolution of 1917 the bolshevik 152 00:16:51,800 --> 00:17:00,120 revolution is that just a coincidence or is there some connective thread between the foundation of the 153 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,400 federal reserve and the start of these wars in short i guess what i'm really asking is 154 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,760 is there a reason for why a banking cartel like the federal reserve would want there to be a war 155 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:19,960 do they profit off of it and if so how are they benefiting from creating these wars it's a complex 156 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:26,520 question with that different components to it first of all woodrow wilson was concerned as far as i can 157 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:33,720 see in his later years he was concerned about this creature the federal reserve that he had helped 158 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:40,200 create by the way i think it's important for people to know that wilson himself was a big supporter of 159 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:47,240 the federal reserve and without his cooperation and behind the scenes endorsement the federal reserve 160 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:54,120 probably would never have been enacted into law is that just a coincidence was war good business for them 161 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:01,720 so the issue is that um why are the bankers doing this is it uh just because they want to make money and 162 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:10,120 uh or do they have political objectives as well and if it's if it's primarily money uh does war help them 163 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:19,320 achieve that objective well duh of course nations uh at war spend huge amounts of money and they don't get 164 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:25,720 it from direct taxes they always get it through inflation they always get it through their central 165 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:33,080 banks who just create it out of thin air pump it into the economy through the government and uh it's 166 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:40,200 inflation and that's why the price of gasoline and bread and college educations uh keeps going up up up 167 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:46,280 because the value of the dollar keeps going down down down and that lost value is what is siphoned off to 168 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:53,000 the government so they can fight the wars that's how they finance the wars and we pay for it through 169 00:18:53,000 --> 00:19:01,800 inflation primarily so sure um central banks and uh well any bank it loves to make loans that's the you 170 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:08,680 know they they're born to make loans that's how they make their money and so there's no bigger borrower 171 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:14,760 than a government fighting a war so it's just obvious once you see the picture of that it is very much in 172 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:22,440 the interest of the federal reserve and every other central bank in the world to be the lender to their 173 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:30,600 governments uh on a big scale and there's nothing nothing quite as big a scale as a war for survival 174 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,800 and under those conditions the politicians and the people themselves don't ask what the price tag is 175 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,680 they don't say how much is this going to cost us they say i don't care what the price is we have to win 176 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:48,600 the war or we'll be conquered so wars have always been a prime um a weapon a tool if you will on the 177 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:54,280 part of central banks and there's in my mind at least david if if it weren't for that central bank 178 00:19:54,280 --> 00:20:00,120 mechanism where they could finance wars in this easy fashion i think most of modern wars would never 179 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:06,920 have been fought in the last year we've now heard about the libor scandal where all the top banks that 180 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,520 are supposedly competing with each other are actually manipulating their own interest rates 181 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:18,440 to benefit each other that's come out recently would you say that that's the smoking gun 182 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,280 that you've been looking for to prove that this cartel actually exists yes i think it's true that 183 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:32,440 in the last year or two it seems like the evidence has been coming bubbling up from this morass from this pit 184 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:38,520 of smoking debris and there's the evidence bobbing around on the surface thing yeah the banks are 185 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:44,760 crooked the banks steal the banks lie the banks have uh unsavory political connections they're buying 186 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,800 politicians it's all coming up and people go well how about that what does this mean well it means 187 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,640 it means that we've been taken over by a banking cartel that owns our government that's what it means and 188 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,960 they get away with this we read about it in the newspaper and think oh i'm glad we read about it that 189 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:04,840 means the problem solved right no they just read about it the problem goes on none of these guys 190 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,800 none of these guys ever go to prison they never pay i mean their corporations like their bank might 191 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:17,080 get fined 50 million or even a billion dollars for having cheated the american people in their mortgage 192 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,600 loans okay the bank oh that's good the bank's going to pay a billion dollars right who's the bank 193 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,760 the investors in the bank in other words it's the poor the ma's and the pa's that put their savings in 194 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,920 the bank stock because they're trying to put their kids through school or have a retirement fund 195 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:39,720 they're the ones that pay the fine the executives who made the decision get a bonus they don't go 196 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:45,960 to prison they get a promotion and they go on to the next job and they say thank you you guys in the 197 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:51,240 in the congress thank you that worked out pretty well let's do it again that's why all these things 198 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:57,880 keep coming up that's what we're learning is it the smoking gun i guess you would call it the stinking 199 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:04,120 garbage more than anything else and it's really i'm glad to see it happening not because it's 200 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:08,920 happening but because it's so visible now that maybe the american people will wake up and say 201 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:16,440 things are not exactly what i've been told they are ed why are the nsa listening to our phone calls 202 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:23,720 are they really just looking for a bunch of guys hiding out in caves in afghanistan trying to 203 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:31,720 smuggle in box cutters through airport security and tsa it doesn't add up for me to listen to 204 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:40,280 everybody's phone call there must be some deeper agenda going on so what are they doing and who are 205 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:51,000 these people the nsa is the american version of of the spy agencies for collectivist government which 206 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:58,600 means the government is is moving toward a goal which is the absolute domination and control over 207 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:06,360 all citizens there are similar agencies in other governments maybe not as well funded or as big but 208 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:15,400 germany has one france has one russia has a huge one uh england has one i mean any uh nation with a 209 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:22,520 little extra money in its budget it has got a similar agency to the nsa why are they looking for 210 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:30,120 terrorists no that's their pretense they're looking what they're trying to do is build a mechanism whereby 211 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:37,480 they can spot people like you and me of course they know where we are we're kind of out in the open but 212 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:43,960 they can spot people like the guy next door who may think the same things that we do but he's he's not 213 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:52,120 visible yet they want to know who everybody is that is asking questions like we are asking they want to 214 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:57,880 know who are the people who are not content with the present system they want to know who are the people 215 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:04,600 that likely will demand reform real reform they want to know who it is that possibly might uh uh 216 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,040 offer some kind of physical resistance they want to know who owns the guns they want to know what 217 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:16,440 political parties that people belong to and who they vote for and and what churches they go to they want 218 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:24,040 to know how they think why it's because they want to spot the people who have to be put away 219 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:31,640 that's as bluntly as i know how to say it people that need to be put away need to be taken off the 220 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,960 streets have to be put in prisons or worse they do not want those people roaming around because they 221 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:44,200 know that's that's the vulnerable point of their regime their control they know things like that are 222 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,280 possible they believe that they're coming in fact this is no no secret this isn't even a controversial 223 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:57,000 thing that i'm saying it sounds blunt and harsh but everybody's saying it you can go to the united 224 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:03,560 nations and you can read report after report after report of how they must prepare for civil unrest in 225 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,120 all the countries of the world because they the people are getting you know the natives are restless 226 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,880 the people are uprising and we've seen riots and demonstrations and we're going to see more of 227 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,960 that and they know that they know that you go to any major city and go down to the police 228 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,000 department go to your state uh headquarters go to the law enforcement agencies and you'll see report 229 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:32,040 after report saying prepare for civil violence people are getting angry with their governments 230 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,880 prepare for it this is not controversial i'm just saying this is what everybody knows 231 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,960 so when you ask the question why do they have these spy operations going it makes sense they want 232 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:49,160 to know who it is that's going to cause the problem so they can possibly prevent it or or deal with it 233 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,320 in a very efficient manner for me this is liberating information i don't get scared when i have these 234 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:01,160 kind of conversations you can see how much g edward griffin and i are smiling as we're talking and the 235 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:08,760 reason why is that the truth will set you free i do believe in a spiritual purpose to this universe i 236 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:15,960 believe in a just and loving creator and i believe that even as scary as this looks this cartel has been 237 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,960 allowed to exist it's written into the great ancient texts like the bible that the devil would take 238 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:30,760 over dominion of the earth but this does appear to be a sort of philosophical apocryphal roundabout way 239 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:37,080 of saying things in a metaphorical language that is now being literally seen that may sound awful 240 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:42,200 christian and bible bang to you but all the ancient traditions spoke about a time of great darkness 241 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,200 great corruption on earth that would then pave the way for a golden age in the next episode we're 242 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:54,200 going to bring it up into the 20th century with the federal reserve and all of the ways in which 243 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,040 the things that we've learned consolidate into what we know now that's coming up next time here on 244 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:16,040 disclosure i'm your host david wilcock speaking truth to power and giving power to the truth